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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3630 on: September 26, 2017, 09:27:13 AM »
Quote from: crutonius on September 26, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
I'm not 100% sure.  He executes people who disappoint him with anti-aircraft guns.  I have to believe that things like that factor into how his advisers frame the facts.  It seems possible that he's surrounded by people who are afraid to tell him plainly that he has no chance in any war.

He's a hard guy to figure out.  I don't quite know what his end game is.  Reunify with South Korea?  We're bound too strongly with them in many different ways to abandon them so that's unrealistic.  Survival?  Maybe but who would be interested in toppling that government?  We'd have to deal with 25 million uneducated, starving refugees.  Shaking us down for aid?  If that's his plan then it really isn't working out well.  Maybe China/Russia likes to rile him up just to piss us off.

He CLEARLY knows he has no chance in a war. He does get aid. Russia and China also like him for keeping the US occupied. Blowing people up with AA guns is just a way to show people in his country who's boss and convince other countries he's unpredictable and to be reckoned with. His end game is to not get invaded and everything he does serves that purpose. As for who would be interested in toppling his government? The US and South Korea, or his own people if they were ever to realize what is happening and he showed weakness. The advantages of invading him massively outweigh the disadvantages. He's not THAT complicated. I wouldn't worry for a nuclear war but it's a dangerous peace. Kinda like a cold war.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3631 on: September 26, 2017, 09:50:22 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korea-seeks-help-from-republican-analysts-whats-up-with-trump/2017/09/26/ea91909e-a278-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.html?utm_term=.d593d2a18358

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3632 on: September 26, 2017, 11:34:09 AM »
Wonder what Roger Stone will say today.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3633 on: September 26, 2017, 12:07:02 PM »
other than his rhetoric... what has he really done that has made him a bad president?


Again, other than his Rhetoric...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3634 on: September 26, 2017, 12:09:28 PM »
Quote from: RocketSauce on September 26, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
other than his rhetoric... what has he really done that has made him a bad president?


Again, other than his Rhetoric...

Just crimes, no big deal.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3635 on: September 26, 2017, 12:16:11 PM »
Quote from: RocketSauce on September 26, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
other than his rhetoric... what has he really done that has made him a bad president?


Again, other than his Rhetoric...
What has he actually accomplished as president? All he has done is put incompetent people in charge of departments, erased EOs established by Obama, and alienated foreign leaders and congressional leaders. Oh, he has also golfed a lot and had to almost completely restaff his white house staff in under 9 months.

Tell me something he has done that would make him even an okay president.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3636 on: September 26, 2017, 12:24:01 PM »
I will not argue he is a good president... but I think the extreme hatred he is receiving from the Lefties is... inflated... to say the least solely based on his rhetoric and not his actions...


I think the government is too big and it's spending is out of control... Even if you taxed every American 100%, you'd still come up short of paying the national debt
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3637 on: September 26, 2017, 12:26:03 PM »
Quote from: RocketSauce on September 26, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
other than his rhetoric... what has he really done that has made him a bad president?


Again, other than his Rhetoric...

Off the top of my head.

Pardoning Joe Arpaio.
Failure to address Russian interference.
Obstructing the Russian investigation.
Pushing legislation and executive orders based on ideology and ignoring actual data, ie the Muslim ban.
Intentionally suppressing climate science.
Hamstringing the state department.
Possibly nullifying DACA, we'll have to see how that works out.
Weakening the Johnson amendment with the goal of repealing it.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3638 on: September 26, 2017, 12:29:24 PM »
Quote from: RocketSauce on September 26, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I will not argue he is a good president... but I think the extreme hatred he is receiving from the Lefties is... inflated... to say the least solely based on his rhetoric and not his actions...


I think the government is too big and it's spending is out of control... Even if you taxed every American 100%, you'd still come up short of paying the national debt

Yeah, some of the hate is misplaced.  I kind of wish the lefties would focus on the actual things he's doing wrong as opposed to accusing him of being a white supremacist.

As far as spending though, his actions do not seem to have much to do with balancing the budget.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3639 on: September 26, 2017, 12:54:21 PM »
Does anyone find it funny that black men making 10 million a year for throwing a pig skin in a country where the sitting president of 8 years was black are protesting for "racial injustices"??

Absolute idiots...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3640 on: September 26, 2017, 12:59:52 PM »
Quote from: RocketSauce on September 26, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I will not argue he is a good president... but I think the extreme hatred he is receiving from the Lefties is... inflated... to say the least solely based on his rhetoric and not his actions...

Yeah, it's called polarization... Makes things easier for politicians hunting for votes. Makes it easier to assign people a label and just have them be yours forever. "I don't wanna hear about yo liberal commie shit, get off my lawn!" "I don't wanna hear about yo conservative white supremacist shit, get off my lawn!". Everyone picks their camp and makes the number crunching easier for the people whose job is to get politicians elected. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3641 on: September 26, 2017, 01:17:23 PM »
Quote from: Babyhighspeed on September 26, 2017, 12:54:21 PM
Does anyone find it funny that black men making 10 million a year for throwing a pig skin in a country where the sitting president of 8 years was black are protesting for "racial injustices"??

Absolute idiots...

I wonder if Colin Kaepernick's black half feels oppressed by his white half.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3642 on: September 26, 2017, 01:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Babyhighspeed on September 26, 2017, 12:54:21 PM
Does anyone find it funny that black men making 10 million a year for throwing a pig skin in a country where the sitting president of 8 years was black are protesting for "racial injustices"??

Absolute idiots...

Does anyone find it funny that the person who constantly complains about racial injustice against whites ("boo hoo, I'm under attack for being a straight white male, woe is me") is now complaining about blacks complaining about racial injustice?

After all, 44 of the last 45 presidents have been straight (ostensibly) white males, so there couldn't possibly be any racial injustice against that demographic, right?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3643 on: September 26, 2017, 01:53:50 PM »
Probably half of these "racially-motivated police shootings" could have been avoided if the victims would have listened and did what the officer told them to do. Don't fight, don't run, don't pull out or reach for a weapon. And then if the officer gets out of line then you have a real case against him.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3644 on: September 26, 2017, 01:59:10 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 01:53:50 PM
And then if the officer gets out of line then you have a real case against him.

Yes, if you're still alive  ;)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3645 on: September 26, 2017, 02:02:17 PM »
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And then if the officer gets out of line then you have a real case against him.

Yes, if you're still alive  ;)

Or the family of the victims
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3646 on: September 26, 2017, 02:06:13 PM »
What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3647 on: September 26, 2017, 02:16:41 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 02:06:13 PM
What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3648 on: September 26, 2017, 02:23:01 PM »
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3649 on: September 26, 2017, 02:24:11 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 02:23:01 PM
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?

Who are you talking to, bud? I assume me, but there seems to be a disconnect between your comment and mine.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3650 on: September 26, 2017, 02:26:38 PM »
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?

Who are you talking to, bud? I assume me, but there seems to be a disconnect between your comment and mine.

What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3651 on: September 26, 2017, 02:37:49 PM »
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?

Who are you talking to, bud? I assume me, but there seems to be a disconnect between your comment and mine.

What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

I think he rather means not shooting unarmed persons just because they are black.
Shooting unarmed persons is a job for gangsters (like the blacks shooting blacks you are referring to), it's not the job of the police, except in countries like the Philippines or the USA it seems.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3652 on: September 26, 2017, 02:42:14 PM »
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?

Who are you talking to, bud? I assume me, but there seems to be a disconnect between your comment and mine.

What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

I think he rather means not shooting unarmed persons just because they are black.
Shooting unarmed persons is a job for gangsters (like the blacks shooting blacks you are referring to), it's not the job of the police, except in countries like the Philippines or the USA it seems.

I agree that some of these shootings were unjustified and the officers should face charges. In the case of Michael Brown however, he robbed a store then fought with the officer, trying to get his gun and the officer defended himself. The witnesses(mostly black by the way) all lied about it but the truth came out.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3653 on: September 26, 2017, 02:50:55 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

Of course not. Are you being intentionally stupid? I'm no expert in this area, but the ideas I've most commonly heard are:

1. Change how investigations into police shootings are handled. Internal investigations tend to involve a lot of conflict of interest. Local prosecutors tend to not want to indict the police they regularly work with.
2. Better statistics.
3. Body cameras.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3654 on: September 26, 2017, 02:59:47 PM »
Quote from: TotesReptilian on September 26, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

Of course not. Are you being intentionally stupid? I'm no expert in this area, but the ideas I've most commonly heard are:

1. Change how investigations into police shootings are handled. Internal investigations tend to involve a lot of conflict of interest. Local prosecutors tend to not want to indict the police they regularly work with.
2. Better statistics.
3. Body cameras.

Agreed justice for /ourgirl/.

Totes you are very intelligent don't rub it in peoples face.

Do your police have Tasers?
Our police carry them and they are very effective against unwilling criminals. Non lethal and it puts anyone down.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3655 on: September 26, 2017, 03:02:38 PM »
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What the African-American community needs to be worried about is the hundreds of blacks killing blacks everyday. It seems that an African-American life only holds value if it is taken by a non-black.

The point of a protest is to generate popular support for a policy change, which is what is needed to effect police reform. I'm not sure how much effect a protest is going to have on the behavior of a hoodlum.

You do have a point though. I suspect BLM would gain way more respect if they focused as much effort on trying to decrease inner city crime.

If you fight with a police officer, what do you think is going to happen?

Who are you talking to, bud? I assume me, but there seems to be a disconnect between your comment and mine.

What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

I think he rather means not shooting unarmed persons just because they are black.
Shooting unarmed persons is a job for gangsters (like the blacks shooting blacks you are referring to), it's not the job of the police, except in countries like the Philippines or the USA it seems.

I agree that some of these shootings were unjustified and the officers should face charges. In the case of Michael Brown however, he robbed a store then fought with the officer, trying to get his gun and the officer defended himself. The witnesses(mostly black by the way) all lied about it but the truth came out.

Even in such case, in other countries police is trained to take him out without killing him. It is a matter of mindset.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3656 on: September 26, 2017, 03:12:36 PM »
Answer honestly how this situation would have unfolded if this were in America


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3657 on: September 26, 2017, 03:17:59 PM »
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Quote from: Albert Wesker on September 26, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
What kind of policy change? That you can't shoot an armed suspect until he shoots you first?

Of course not. Are you being intentionally stupid? I'm no expert in this area, but the ideas I've most commonly heard are:

1. Change how investigations into police shootings are handled. Internal investigations tend to involve a lot of conflict of interest. Local prosecutors tend to not want to indict the police they regularly work with.
2. Better statistics.
3. Body cameras.

Or better yet, obey the officer's commands. Or even better yet, don't be a criminal.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3658 on: September 26, 2017, 03:19:13 PM »
Pardoning Joe Arpaio.
I'll have to research him...


Failure to address Russian interference.

What was the Russian Interference? Oh... Exposing the Dem's for doing what they were doing? Had the Dem's not been Sabotaging Bernie Sanders... Had the Dem's not been getting debate questions from CNN in advance... etc. Then the Russian's hacks would have been a non-point...


Obstructing the Russian investigation.

Ehh... I don't know... Seems to be more of a Dem issue... I think it's funny that in the course of a night, the Dem's reverted back to 1970's Republicans Screaming about how the Russians are evil... PUTIN DID THIS, HE HACKED US... and what did he hack?  OUR EMAILS!!!!!

and what did your emails say? Well.... HE HACKED US!!!

Pushing legislation and executive orders based on ideology and ignoring actual data, ie the Muslim ban.

I'm for it... I'm not for a "wall" exactly, but I am not for open boarders, therefore, boarders should be policed much much harder... I am against Obama, for instance, Shutting Down Arizona's policing a deportation of illegals... Hence the Name Illegal.... If it is Illegal it is not good... Not all things illegal should be illegal... But, if you are going to break the law... then there is a risk and reward aspect you take on...

Intentionally suppressing climate science.

He has no ability to suppress science... if anything, Al Gore suppresses science by making claims that are extreme... Like, Miami will be under water by 2016 (or something like that)
He can deny science, but that is the job of republicans... Unfortunately, climate science is not a science that can be fully understood... If it were, I would ask a (flat earthed themed question)... What is the percentage "man" has contributed to the increase in global temperature?

Hamstringing the state department.
I'd have to research that

Possibly nullifying DACA, we'll have to see how that works out.
I'd have to research that...

Weakening the Johnson amendment with the goal of repealing it.
I don't know much about it, but there is sooo much political campaign high jinx going on that
it is impossible for me to say what should be allowed and what should not be allowed...

I am more against lobbyist...


I also think he should be harder on "ANTIFA"
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #3659 on: September 26, 2017, 03:22:30 PM »
I wonder if Hillary would have won the election if this "Russia" stuff would be a thing. My guess would be no.
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