The essence of the facts

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The essence of the facts
« on: January 06, 2020, 11:33:09 PM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.
This might be due to the fact that Muslims often refer to God as "Allah". This concept is false, since "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for the One true "God" Who created the universe and all humanity. Let there be no doubt - Muslims worship the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus. However, it is certainly true that Jews, Christians and Muslims all have different concepts of Almighty God. For example, Muslims - like Jews - reject the Christian beliefs of the Trinity and the Divine Incarnation.


This, however, does not mean that each of these three religions worships a different God - because, as we have already said, there is only One True God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to be “Abrahamic Faiths”, and all of them are also classified as “monotheistic.” However, Islam teaches that other religions have, in one way or another, distorted and nullified a pure and proper belief in Almighty God by neglecting His true teachings and mixing them with man-made ideas. Islam calls upon people to return to the one true God and to worship and obey Him alone. Islam teaches that God should be approached without intermediaries. That is because the merciful all-knowing God is completely in control of everything that exists and that He can bestow His grace and mercy on His creatures as He pleases; therefore no intercession, atonement or incarnation is necessary.


Arabic speaking people of all religions refer to God as "Allah". For example, if you pick up an Arabic translation of the Christian Bible you will see the word "Allah" where "God" is used in English. Therefore, Allah is not the god of only the Muslims, but the same God worshipped by all monotheistic faiths. This idea that "Allah" is different from "God" is illogical since it is tantamount to saying that the French worship a different "god" because they use the word "Dieu", that Spaniards worship a different "god" because they say "Dios" or that the Hebrews worshipped a different "god" because they called Him "Yahweh"!
The Quran, which is the divine scripture of Muslims, was revealed in the Arabic language, so Muslims use the word "Allah" for "God", even when they are speaking other languages. A more literal translation of "Allah" into English might be "the one- and-only God" or "the one true God".
It should be clearly understood that what Islam is primarily concerned with is correcting humankind's concept of Almighty God. What people are ultimately going to be held accountable for at the end of Day of Judgment is not whether they preferred the word "Allah" or the word "God", but what their concept of Him is. The true concept of God is clarified only within the message revealed by Him. The last message sent by God, or Allah, is the Quran.

بروفيسورة تتحدى ذاكر نايك وتقول له اثبت انني على خطأ وسوف ادخل الاسلام .. تحدي خطير جداً !!


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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2020, 03:54:04 AM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2020, 04:10:28 AM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.

LOL, owned by the first sentence.

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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2020, 04:16:38 AM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.
This might be due to the fact that Muslims often refer to God as "Allah". This concept is false, since "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for the One true "God" Who created the universe and all humanity. Let there be no doubt - Muslims worship the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus. However, it is certainly true that Jews, Christians and Muslims all have different concepts of Almighty God. For example, Muslims - like Jews - reject the Christian beliefs of the Trinity and the Divine Incarnation.


This, however, does not mean that each of these three religions worships a different God - because, as we have already said, there is only One True God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to be “Abrahamic Faiths”, and all of them are also classified as “monotheistic.” However, Islam teaches that other religions have, in one way or another, distorted and nullified a pure and proper belief in Almighty God by neglecting His true teachings and mixing them with man-made ideas. Islam calls upon people to return to the one true God and to worship and obey Him alone. Islam teaches that God should be approached without intermediaries. That is because the merciful all-knowing God is completely in control of everything that exists and that He can bestow His grace and mercy on His creatures as He pleases; therefore no intercession, atonement or incarnation is necessary.


Arabic speaking people of all religions refer to God as "Allah". For example, if you pick up an Arabic translation of the Christian Bible you will see the word "Allah" where "God" is used in English. Therefore, Allah is not the god of only the Muslims, but the same God worshipped by all monotheistic faiths. This idea that "Allah" is different from "God" is illogical since it is tantamount to saying that the French worship a different "god" because they use the word "Dieu", that Spaniards worship a different "god" because they say "Dios" or that the Hebrews worshipped a different "god" because they called Him "Yahweh"!
The Quran, which is the divine scripture of Muslims, was revealed in the Arabic language, so Muslims use the word "Allah" for "God", even when they are speaking other languages. A more literal translation of "Allah" into English might be "the one- and-only God" or "the one true God".
It should be clearly understood that what Islam is primarily concerned with is correcting humankind's concept of Almighty God. What people are ultimately going to be held accountable for at the end of Day of Judgment is not whether they preferred the word "Allah" or the word "God", but what their concept of Him is. The true concept of God is clarified only within the message revealed by Him. The last message sent by God, or Allah, is the Quran.

بروفيسورة تتحدى ذاكر نايك وتقول له اثبت انني على خطأ وسوف ادخل الاسلام .. تحدي خطير جداً !!


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Allah and Elohim, just like the words for peace, are simply different spellings of the same word.

Same word...same god...
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2020, 06:57:03 AM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Fuck you.  My god says you are all wrong and I'm right.
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2020, 07:59:02 AM »

Would that be the Shia, or Sunni Allah/God?
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2020, 03:34:30 PM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Fuck you.  My god says you are all wrong and I'm right.

LOL,  my God says your God sucks.   Wadda ya gonna do bout it?   

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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2020, 08:17:28 PM »

LOL,  my God says your God sucks.   Wadda ya gonna do bout it?

Kill people?

The only other option is to accept others as is,
with no animus or historically old preconceived
and illogical self important bullshit . . .

RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 02:33:48 AM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Fuck you.  My god says you are all wrong and I'm right.

LOL,  my God says your God sucks.   Wadda ya gonna do bout it?
My god will fuck your false god up.  Then my tribe will fuck your tribe up for believing in the false god.
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2020, 03:16:40 AM »
My god will get a prophet who despite being a most wonderous and powerful expression of my gods obvious superiority will be painfully put to death, but that was gods plan all along to show he understands our suffering, so move along nothing to see here.

The vacuum left will be filled by his sisters gardener or his best mates son if they can get the drop on each other quick enough, the loser’s followers will be attacked as apostate and driven into exile to brood and plot righteous revenge, which will be met by devastation and massacre et-cetera down through the ages until the combined toll of my gods followers killing each other eclipses those that have ever been killed by those of other lesser or related gods, amen.
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2020, 02:29:55 PM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Fuck you.  My god says you are all wrong and I'm right.

LOL,  my God says your God sucks.   Wadda ya gonna do bout it?
My god will fuck your false god up.  Then my tribe will fuck your tribe up for believing in the false god.

Sounds like quite a show,  can I get ringside seats?   Maybe a family discount?

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2020, 03:45:43 PM »
Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.

Nope.  God says you are wrong.
Fuck you.  My god says you are all wrong and I'm right.

LOL,  my God says your God sucks.   Wadda ya gonna do bout it?
My god will fuck your false god up.  Then my tribe will fuck your tribe up for believing in the false god.

Sounds like quite a show,  can I get ringside seats?   Maybe a family discount?

My God quite literally has no fucks to give.

Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2020, 01:51:21 AM »
My God quite literally has no fucks to give.
Yeah, I've actually been intrigued by your god....oh, shit here come the mob shouting "heretic" and holding some alarming looking torches...
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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2020, 01:53:37 AM »
My God quite literally has no fucks to give.
Yeah, I've actually been intrigued by your god....oh, shit here come the mob shouting "heretic" and holding some alarming looking torches...


. . . and pitch forks.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2020, 10:58:15 PM »
The Quran uses the word ‘We’ when quoting Allah. Does that mean that Muslims believe in more than one God?
Islam adheres to uncompromising monotheism. It teaches that God is One and indivisible. In the Quran, God often refers to Himself as "We". But it does not mean that there is more than one God. The reference of God to Himself as "We" in many Quranic verses is necessarily understood in the Arabic language to denote power and grandeur, as opposed to the more intimate singular form, "I", used in specific instances.
In some languages there are two types of plural form. One is related to quantity and used to refer to two or more persons, places or things. The other kind of plural is one of majesty, power and distinction. For example, in proper English, the Queen of England refers to herself as ‘we’. This is known as the ‘royal plural’. Rajeev Gandhi, the ex-Prime Minister of India used to say in Hindi, "Hum dekhna chahte hain". "We want to see." ‘Hum’ means ‘we’, which is again a royal plural in Hindi language. Similarly, when God refers to Himself in the Quran, He sometimes uses the Arabic word 'nahnu', meaning ‘We’. It does not indicate a plurality of number but the plurality of power and majesty.
The oneness of God is stressed throughout the Quran. A clear example is in this short chapter “Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)


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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2020, 10:23:50 PM »
The Quran says that Allah is merciful and that He gives severe punishment. So is He forgiving or is He vengeful?
The Quran mentions many times that God is the Most Merciful. In fact, all except one of the 114 chapters of the Quran begin with Bismillaahi Aahmaani Arraheem, which means, "I begin with the name of God, the Entirely Merciful and the Especially Merciful". These two descriptions of God are sometimes translated as "The Compassionate, the Merciful"; however in Arabic grammar, both names are an intensive form of the word "merciful". Rahmaan means merciful to all creation, and justice is part of this mercy. Raheem means merciful especially to the believers and forgiveness is part of this mercy. A complimentary and comprehensive meaning is intended by the use of both of them together. In addition, Allah speaks of His forgiveness throughout the Quran. In fact, God's mercy and

forgiveness have been mentioned together more than 70 times in the Quran. Allah repeatedly reminds us saying “Tell My servants that I am indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful; And that My Penalty will be indeed the most grievous Penalty.” (Quran 15:49-50)
Allah is just, and His justice necessitates that He reward those who obey and serve Him and punish those who disobey and rebel against Him. If Allah did not punish the sinful, wicked and evil people who deserve to be punished, it would not be justice. When punishment for wrongdoing is certain, it serves to deter potential offenders. In contrast, if Allah forgave everyone and punished no one, there would be no reason for legislation, ethics or even morality.


Life on earth would be chaotic and nothing short of anarchy. True justice, with its true rewards and just penalties can only be found with Allah, and that is what He has promised in the Quran “We shall set up scales of justice for the Day of Judgment, so that not a soul will be dealt with unjustly in the least, and if there be (no more than) the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it (to account): and enough are We to take account.” (Quran 21:47)
Allah forgives all those who repent and correct themselves at any stage in their lives, and He has invited all people to His abundant forgiveness and mercy:
Say: ‘O My slaves who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful. And return (in repentance) to your Lord and submit to Him before the punishment comes upon you; then you will not be helped. And follow the best of what was revealed to you from your Lord before the punishment comes upon you suddenly, while you do not perceive. (Quran 39:53-5)
Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped. "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not!- "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked!'- "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous!'


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Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2020, 01:42:21 PM »
Be careful,my brother

Death will come at any moment

And you will stand before God
God will hold you accountable for your actions
God will ask you
Why not follow the right religion?

Why did you not worship the one God as all the prophets said?

Why did not you look and care about that?

Who will save you from the punishment of God and who can save you?



As I have always said
You should go to Islamic centers
For specialists in Islam
You must know and learn Arabic

May God guide you to the right path

Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:

“Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

Who is God in islam?



The Most Concise Definition of God:

The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:

"Say: He is Allah,
The One and Only.
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
"He begets not, nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
God does not become a human being:

God does not take human form:



Some may argue that God does not become a human being but only takes a human form. If God only takes a human form but does not become a human being, He should not possess any human qualities. We know that all the ‘God-men’, have human qualities and failings. They have all the human needs such as the need to eat, sleep, etc.

The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy and should be abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.

That is the reason why the Qur’an speaks against all forms of anthropomorphism. The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:

"There is nothing whatever like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 42:11]
Concept of God in Islam - Dr Zakir Naik



Who is God in Christianity?
The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour. Their message was simple: there is one God and He alone deserves your worship. It doesn’t make sense that God sent Prophets for thousands of years with the same essential message, and then all of a sudden he says he is in a Trinity and that you must believe in Jesus to be saved.

The truth is that Jesus preached the same message that the Prophets in the Old Testament preached. There is a passage in the Bible which really emphasizes his core message. A man came to Jesus and asked “Which is the first commandment of all?”Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’’[Mark 12:28-29]. So the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said ‘I am God, worship me’, but he didn’t. He merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

But Christians worship Jesus
They deny all Jesus said that he is not a god but a prophet of God

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Concept of God in Judaism

II) The notion of God in Judaism:

(i) The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (PSL)

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad"

It is a quote in Hebrew which means:
"Hear, Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6: 4]

The following verses are taken from the Book of Isaiah:

(ii) "I, I am the Lord, and outside me there is none who saves. [The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]

(iii) "I am the Lord, and there is no other, there is no other God than me. [The Bible, Isaiah 45: 5]

(iv) "I am God, and there is no other, I am God, and no one is like Me. [The Bible, Isaiah 46: 9]

(v) Judaism condemns the worship of idols in the following verses:
"" You will not have other gods before me ".
"You shall not make yourself a cut image, nor any likeness of what is in the heavens above, and what is on the earth below, and what is in the waters below the earth: "
"You shall not bow down to them, nor serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God." [The Bible, Exodus 20: 3-5]



In Judaism too, we find the same thread of monotheism, which is seen in other religions.

But
The Jews distorted the concept of God as Christians did

God , Jehovah, and he is not an infallible God, but errs and revolts, and falls into remorse, and he commands theft, and he is cruel, fanatic, and destructive to his people, he is the God of Israel only, and he is thus an enemy of others, and they claim that he walks before a group of the children of Israel In a column of clouds.
is belief enough 1 ?? ?? ???? ?




is belief enough 2 ?? ?? ???? ?

is belief enough 3 ?? ?? ???? ?

Re: The essence of the facts
« Reply #17 on: Today at 02:05:29 AM »
Be careful,my brother

Death will come at any moment

Frankly, that will be a welcome release from this thread.
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