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Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 09:15:11 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 08:36:41 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on February 08, 2016, 07:03:38 PM

Here's an interesting question: why are the landing legs wrapped in gold xmas wrapping paper anyway?

What purpose does this wrapping paper serve?

Already asked and answered:

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 01:22:58 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 08, 2016, 12:59:25 PM

And what is up with all this gold color foil? It looks like they use it to cover stuff up so we can't see what's under it.

The gold mylar is to reflect the heat of the sun to keep the temperature stable.

Great answer markjo, I can see that. We all know shinny light color things reflect heat from the sun to keep the temperature stable and dark color things absorb heat and the temperature won't be stable. But wait...why would they care about keeping the struts stable and not the inner workings of the LM. That kinda don't make sense to. I'm not a professor like you, so It probably makes perfect sense to you. Even if the black tar paper looking stuff is special, I'd at least cover it with gold foil to make it more photogenic. After all, they use mylar tape to patch the rips and tears in it and that looks just terrible.

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

Give it up for crying out loud.

 I've looked closely at the surround of that ball joint and that white surround looks  like polystyrene. This is a small model.

Look at that pristine gold foil. Now think about this and seriously think. Imagine that pile of crap lander landing on the moon as we are told. The moon apparently has no atmosphere so this pile of crap is trying to land on it.
For anyone taking notice of the bullshit we get fed, you'll understand that the  bogus moon apparently rotates at just over 10mph...that's ten miles per hour.

Now take a look at the gold foil covered landing feet and imagine the state of that foil upon landing.

There's two things to think about. The piece of crap lander would SKID along the moon surface due to this 10mph spin, as we are told. The atmosphere cannot carry it along at the same rate like the absolute bullshit explanation like the Earth...and yet, look. Look at the perfectly intact  foil.

So because you THINK it looks like polystyrene, it must be.   
and why wouldn't the pilot match their horizontal speed to the surface below them before landing?

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:02:42 AM

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 09:15:11 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 08:36:41 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on February 08, 2016, 07:03:38 PM

Here's an interesting question: why are the landing legs wrapped in gold xmas wrapping paper anyway?

What purpose does this wrapping paper serve?

Already asked and answered:

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 01:22:58 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 08, 2016, 12:59:25 PM

And what is up with all this gold color foil? It looks like they use it to cover stuff up so we can't see what's under it.

The gold mylar is to reflect the heat of the sun to keep the temperature stable.

Great answer markjo, I can see that. We all know shinny light color things reflect heat from the sun to keep the temperature stable and dark color things absorb heat and the temperature won't be stable. But wait...why would they care about keeping the struts stable and not the inner workings of the LM. That kinda don't make sense to. I'm not a professor like you, so It probably makes perfect sense to you. Even if the black tar paper looking stuff is special, I'd at least cover it with gold foil to make it more photogenic. After all, they use mylar tape to patch the rips and tears in it and that looks just terrible.

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

Give it up for crying out loud.

Thank you for proving you're not an engineer.  There is not just one way to attach materials.  Some ways work better than other for different applications. Or maybe everyone should just resort to argument from incredulity like you?

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

I didn't say they riveted it.  I also never claimed to be an engineer.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

I didn't say they riveted it.  I also never claimed to be an engineer.

Well this is what you said. Tell me what you mean by this?

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

I'm renovating a house at the moment & all the old crap we throw in the skip looks better than this:



Wtf is wrong with people who still believe this trash-can went to teh munn 50 years ago?

I didn't say they riveted it.

You don't have to; you can SEE the f**king thing's covered in pop-rivets ffs...

Duck tape & xmas present wrapper too!

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:17:02 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

I didn't say they riveted it.  I also never claimed to be an engineer.

Well this is what you said. Tell me what you mean by this?

Quote from: frenat

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

Its a general comment about the difference in attaching material with rivet versus tape.  Is English not your first language?

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:17:02 AM

I didn't say they riveted it.

You don't have to; you can SEE the f**king thing's covered in pop-rivets ffs...

Duck tape & xmas present wrapper too!

Please point out a rivet on the black or gold areas where the tape is used.  IF you find one, then show there is enough force concentrated there to rip the material. 

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?

Well for starters I'm responding to a troll.  I must be bored.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:17:02 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

I didn't say they riveted it.  I also never claimed to be an engineer.

Well this is what you said. Tell me what you mean by this?

Quote from: frenat

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

Its a general comment about the difference in attaching material with rivet versus tape.  Is English not your first language?

Never mind about first languages. The piece of crap model that you believe is on the moon is taped together pieces of foil and roofing paper  or similar, as well as old bits and pieces of whatever school project crap you want to add on but let me tell you something.

That tape that's holding it all together is called STICKY tape. Tell me how that STICKY tape stays STICKY in the muwn envirenmint of a vaquiaem?

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:26:21 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:17:02 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 09, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

Explain to me how you rivet aluminium foil and roofing paper after taping it up ready for that purpose. Come on then, let's have your explanation Mr (another) engineer.

I didn't say they riveted it.  I also never claimed to be an engineer.

Well this is what you said. Tell me what you mean by this?

Quote from: frenat

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

Its a general comment about the difference in attaching material with rivet versus tape.  Is English not your first language?

Never mind about first languages. The piece of crap model that you believe is on the moon is taped together pieces of foil and roofing paper  or similar, as well as old bits and pieces of whatever school project crap you want to add on but let me tell you something.

That tape that's holding it all together is called STICKY tape. Tell me how that STICKY tape stays STICKY in the muwn envirenmint of a vaquiaem?

So because you THINK it looks like foil and roofing paper, it must be?

What about a vacuum would cause the tape to not be sticky?  Be specific.  Why are you assuming it is just like the sticky tape you use?  Have you bothered to ask Grumman about any of this or look anything up at all?

Please point out a rivet on the black or gold areas where the tape is used.

LOL!!!

You are shameless...

Here; look at your multi-billion dollar spacecraft again:




TRASHCAN DETECTED!

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:28:18 AM

Please point out a rivet on the black or gold areas where the tape is used.

LOL!!!

You are shameless...

Translation:  Of course I can't find one so I'll try to deflect and hope you don't notice.

Here; look at your multi-billion dollar spacecraft again:

Hey look everyone!  Papa Legba knows how to build a spacecraft better than Grumman engineers!


Please tell everyone how YOU would build a spacecraft and how it would look different.

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 08:22:54 AM

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

I assure you I'm not joking. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the photographer moved to the right because you can see a different angle view of the LM. At that angle you should definitely see more of the US sign. It is just common sense.

Hey look everyone nobody cares what I think cos I'm shit!  Papa Legba knows how to build fake a spacecraft shitty stage prop better than Grumman engineers a bunch of fucking thieves!
Please tell everyone waste your time thinking for even one second about how YOU would build a spacecraft shitty stage prop and how it would look different less shit.

LOL!!!

NEVER go full retard!

What happened to the video of the man dressed as a fairy dancing to gaylord music on your fruity youtube channel btw, ferret-face?

Embarrassed about it were you?

LMAO - at YOU!!!

Quote from: rlw777 on February 09, 2016, 11:47:19 AM

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 08:22:54 AM

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

I assure you I'm not joking. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the photographer moved to the right because you can see a different angle view of the LM. At that angle you should definitely see more of the US sign. It is just common sense.

Where are the two original photos, Yendor?

Quote from: rlw777 on February 09, 2016, 11:47:19 AM

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 08:22:54 AM

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

I assure you I'm not joking. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the photographer moved to the right because you can see a different angle view of the LM. At that angle you should definitely see more of the US sign. It is just common sense.

Yes, it is obvious that the photographer moved to the right.  It is also obvious that he turned to the left.

Quote from: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:49:16 AM

Hey look everyone nobody cares what I think cos I'm shit!  Papa Legba knows how to build fake a spacecraft shitty stage prop better than Grumman engineers a bunch of fucking thieves!
Please tell everyone waste your time thinking for even one second about how YOU would build a spacecraft shitty stage prop and how it would look different less shit.

Trolling noted.

LOL!!!

NEVER go full retard!

What happened to the video of the man dressed as a fairy dancing to gaylord music on your fruity youtube channel btw, ferret-face?

Embarrassed about it were you?

LMAO - at YOU!!!

The video of Scott Hopkins who made a fool of himself at an Air Force Christmas party and it was only put up to get a reaction from him?  Since I've been out of the Air force for more than 4 years now I figured it wasn't needed anymore. Tchaikovsky is "gaylord music"?   Then there's the thing about creepy trolls on this forum stalking me but you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?  I'll bet it never occurred to you that I changed the settings on youtube just to mess with you, did it?

Quote from: rlw777 on February 09, 2016, 11:47:19 AM

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 08:22:54 AM

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

I assure you I'm not joking. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the photographer moved to the right because you can see a different angle view of the LM. At that angle you should definitely see more of the US sign. It is just common sense.

yes its quite obvious the photographer moved to the right lowered the angle of the camera downward and rotated to the left.

Here's an experiment for you. take out your phone turn on the camera find an object with a label on it and see how many angles you can get of that object with the label always in the bottom right hand corner of your screen.

THERE ARE NO POP-RIVETS & DUCK TAPE ON TEH LEM! IT IS ON TEH MUNN & IT IS REALLY REAL & WE REALLY REALLY WENT TO TEH MUNN 50 YEARS AGO & WHY WILL NO-ONE BELIEVE ME & I AM CLOSE TO TEARS AGAIN!!!

Trolling noted.

Also nervous breakdown...

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

Yes, you would expect it if the composition and framing was otherwise identical.  You should notice that Aldrin is more or less centered in the first photo, but he is noticeably right of center in the second photo.

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 12:00:53 PM

Quote from: rlw777 on February 09, 2016, 11:47:19 AM

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 08:22:54 AM

In Apollo 11:
Between the photos AS11-40-5862 and AS11-40-5863, the photographer moves to the right and back:



I would expect the US plate (circled in red) on the extreme right to be more visible on the second photo...but, it's the converse, it's even less visible on the second photo. I can't wait for your excuses.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You know cameras can rotate 360 degrees. You can take a picture in like any direction

I assure you I'm not joking. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the photographer moved to the right because you can see a different angle view of the LM. At that angle you should definitely see more of the US sign. It is just common sense.

Where are the two original photos, Yendor?

They are right above. They have a scroll bar so you have to scroll to the right to see both.

WTF is this? Why are there these straight edges? They appear on both photos.

The other photo:

WTF is this? Why are there these straight edges? They appear on both photos.

Seams from using multiple sheets of mylar, perhaps?

Quote from: legion on February 09, 2016, 01:21:38 PM

WTF is this? Why are there these straight edges? They appear on both photos.

Seams from using multiple sheets of mylar, perhaps?

or where the mylar is over something straight beneath it.

Looks like a rectangular crop to me. Will investigate more tomorrow.

Edit: zoom in on the high res photos and it becomes quite stark.

Edit: zoom in on the high res photos and it becomes quite stark.

Just like you would expect a seam to look, right?

Quote from: Yendor on February 09, 2016, 09:15:11 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 08:36:41 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on February 08, 2016, 07:03:38 PM

Here's an interesting question: why are the landing legs wrapped in gold xmas wrapping paper anyway?

What purpose does this wrapping paper serve?

Already asked and answered:

Quote from: markjo on February 08, 2016, 01:22:58 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 08, 2016, 12:59:25 PM

And what is up with all this gold color foil? It looks like they use it to cover stuff up so we can't see what's under it.

The gold mylar is to reflect the heat of the sun to keep the temperature stable.

Great answer markjo, I can see that. We all know shinny light color things reflect heat from the sun to keep the temperature stable and dark color things absorb heat and the temperature won't be stable. But wait...why would they care about keeping the struts stable and not the inner workings of the LM. That kinda don't make sense to. I'm not a professor like you, so It probably makes perfect sense to you. Even if the black tar paper looking stuff is special, I'd at least cover it with gold foil to make it more photogenic. After all, they use mylar tape to patch the rips and tears in it and that looks just terrible.

The tape is not to patch rips and tears.  It is used to attach to avoid rips and tears.  If you attach something with a rivet then you concentrate the attachment at a point.  Attach it with tape and the force spreads out.

OMG dude, you just cannot see that NASA is lying to you. The thing in that picture is hideous, there is no chance that it landed on the moon with people inside of it. It is truly laughable that people still believe that fairytale.