Heiwas lack of understanding in everything and his obsession with poop

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #810 on: July 02, 2017, 07:57:10 AM »
Ha ha! The Moose outsmarted everyone!

I'll even offer a free update on his logo and logotype header. A $3000 value.
You look at some logos and you immediately know what that company is about...and then sometimes you're completely confused and think "what the heck is that".


That's why you hire a professional.   ;)
A Logologist.  :)

Have you copyrighted that yet?   ;D
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #811 on: July 02, 2017, 07:58:15 AM »
Ha ha! The Moose outsmarted everyone!

I'll even offer a free update on his logo and logotype header. A $3000 value.
You look at some logos and you immediately know what that company is about...and then sometimes you're completely confused and think "what the heck is that".


That's why you hire a professional.   ;)
A Logologist.  :)

Have you copyrighted that yet?   ;D
Nope....all yours. :D
Since it costs 1.82¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 3.64¢.

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #812 on: July 02, 2017, 08:00:45 AM »
Never mind, you used the word in public. You own it.   >:(
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #813 on: July 02, 2017, 08:13:44 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #814 on: July 02, 2017, 08:15:41 AM »
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #815 on: July 02, 2017, 09:15:43 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle. 
Since it costs 1.82¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 3.64¢.

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #816 on: July 02, 2017, 11:06:06 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

He won't read any of that, neither will he pay attention to any of this 1966 document that explains a lot of the methodology for getting to the moon in detail:

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/LunarLandingMIssionSymposium1966_1978075303.pdf

Why won't he? Because he's a liar, a fraud and an idiot.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #817 on: July 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

He won't read any of that, neither will he pay attention to any of this 1966 document that explains a lot of the methodology for getting to the moon in detail:

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/LunarLandingMIssionSymposium1966_1978075303.pdf

Why won't he? Because he's a liar, a fraud and an idiot.
But he does have a rocking body.
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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #818 on: July 02, 2017, 04:33:41 PM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

He won't read any of that, neither will he pay attention to any of this 1966 document that explains a lot of the methodology for getting to the moon in detail:

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/LunarLandingMIssionSymposium1966_1978075303.pdf

Why won't he? Because he's a liar, a fraud and an idiot.

The alternative is that the link is just garbage propaganda fantasies produced by Willy Low. Poor Willy, working as a liar for NASA! What a fraud and an idiot.

Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #819 on: July 02, 2017, 06:08:14 PM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

He won't read any of that, neither will he pay attention to any of this 1966 document that explains a lot of the methodology for getting to the moon in detail:

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/LunarLandingMIssionSymposium1966_1978075303.pdf

Why won't he? Because he's a liar, a fraud and an idiot.

The alternative is that the link is just garbage propaganda fantasies produced by Willy Low. Poor Willy, working as a liar for NASA! What a fraud and an idiot.
Then prove it.  Here, not on that pathetic website of yours.
But of course you are only a lying failure so you never will.

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #820 on: July 02, 2017, 06:31:28 PM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Use the archive.
http://archive.is/tjRsk
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #821 on: July 02, 2017, 11:00:43 PM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study <some shitty website>, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Use the archive.
http://archive.is/tjRsk

It is an excellent way of finding out that his page on Apollo is still riddled with plenty lies and basic mistakes that anyone could correct with a few seconds of research despite having had them pointed out to him.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html

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disputeone

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #822 on: July 02, 2017, 11:21:44 PM »
I'm not sure why you guys spend so much time arguing with him. Still, how he continues pushing false info and half truths makes me very wary of him indeed.

No actual free thinker is being duped by his website, that's for sure. The guys that parrot his stuff are... well... I haven't met one yet.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Pezevenk

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #823 on: July 03, 2017, 02:10:27 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Yeah, I open it and the first thing I see is urine valves and your obsession with piss. I went to the part you talk about fuel and all I see is confused ramblings of an old curmudgeon. I don't think I saw a single use of the rocket equation. You mostly just state things and then say it's impossible. Actually it's very hard to understand what the point you're trying to make is. First there is a confusing paragraph where you whine about discrepancies in your sources (only the link to your first source doesn't lead anywhere), and then you state that the spacecraft can't carry the fuel needed, without showing any calculations. Then you give various percentages (?) of velocities that are just plain confusing, you talk a lot about Lagrange points for unknown reasons, you fail to understand how spaceships steer in space, you promise a calculation showing that the fuel is not enough but you never give it, and then you talk about some unspecified simulation you made (which is probably bullshit). So everything in it is useless.
It is not a scientific fact, it is a scientific fuck!
-Intikam

Who wants to be a firefly and who wants to be a blue whale?
-Sceptimatic

Please do not jizz to win an argument.
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Read a bit psicology and stick your imo to where it comes from.
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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #824 on: July 03, 2017, 03:32:58 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Yeah, I open it and the first thing I see is urine valves and your obsession with piss. I went to the part you talk about fuel and all I see is confused ramblings of an old curmudgeon. I don't think I saw a single use of the rocket equation. You mostly just state things and then say it's impossible. Actually it's very hard to understand what the point you're trying to make is. First there is a confusing paragraph where you whine about discrepancies in your sources (only the link to your first source doesn't lead anywhere), and then you state that the spacecraft can't carry the fuel needed, without showing any calculations. Then you give various percentages (?) of velocities that are just plain confusing, you talk a lot about Lagrange points for unknown reasons, you fail to understand how spaceships steer in space, you promise a calculation showing that the fuel is not enough but you never give it, and then you talk about some unspecified simulation you made (which is probably bullshit). So everything in it is useless.

Piss? Sanitary facilities, pls. I work in shipping since 1966 and passengers, staff and crews on our seagoing ships need sanitary facilities. And when the ships get old the sanitary facilities starts to fail and ... I am called in to solve the problems. Nobody likes a ship with the top of the double bottom full of shit. I have fixed plenty such problems. It is part of my job.

Re fuel required by a spacecraft for a return trip to the Moon and Mars through the Universe, I explain the problem at my website. You get too heavy just to take off from Earth! You cannot start! So you do not need any sanitary facilities in space.
 

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #825 on: July 03, 2017, 05:01:09 AM »
Piss? Sanitary facilities, pls. I work in shipping since 1966 and passengers, staff and crews on our seagoing ships need sanitary facilities. And when the ships get old the sanitary facilities starts to fail and ... I am called in to solve the problems. Nobody likes a ship with the top of the double bottom full of shit. I have fixed plenty such problems. It is part of my job.

And here you have it folks, Heiwa is the marine equivalent of a guy that empties septic tanks.

Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #826 on: July 03, 2017, 05:28:46 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study <some shitty website>, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Use the archive.
http://archive.is/tjRsk

It is an excellent way of finding out that his page on Apollo is still riddled with plenty lies and basic mistakes that anyone could correct with a few seconds of research despite having had them pointed out to him.
Yeah, but every webpage you find and everything you learned in school is propaganda and faked by nasa.  However, there is no conspiracy involved.
Since it costs 1.82¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 3.64¢.

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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #827 on: July 04, 2017, 01:46:43 AM »
While trying to calculate whatever Heiwa wanted me to calculate I found this: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

It's the entire Apollo 11 flight plan. Heiwa, who apparently is an "expert in orbital mechanics" but probably has no idea how to calculate the Δv for a Hohmann transfer, should have no trouble understanding it. Let's see if he can find anything that doesn't add up or he has objections with in there. It has almost everything.

You really should study <some shitty website>, where I examine Willy Low's Apollo 11 fantasies in your link.  Nothing adds up. But Willy got away with 1969 but died young later. He was a joke.

Use the archive.
http://archive.is/tjRsk

It is an excellent way of finding out that his page on Apollo is still riddled with plenty lies and basic mistakes that anyone could correct with a few seconds of research despite having had them pointed out to him.
Yeah, but every webpage you find and everything you learned in school is propaganda and faked by nasa.  However, there is no conspiracy involved.

Hm, my web site started out more than 20 years ago to explain a little about oil spill prevention and safety at sea. As incidents always happened far away from normal media coverage, it was simple to blame everything on the Master of the ship and media always supported the idea. Ideally the ship should sink and the Master drown and then you could say the ship was perfect and the Master ... drunk? Conspiracy? Not really! Most Masters were drunk at sea then.

People believe anything they are told by media: A-bombs exploded 1945 over Japan vaporizing 100 000's of innocent people. Americans cheered! Great! 1969 Americans visited the Moon and forgot to piss on it on arrival (you couldn't piss inside the spacecraft) and Americans cheered forgetting 50 000 Americans were KIAs in Vietnam at about the same time. 2001 we were told 19 Arabs landed planes in tops of two skyscrapers at NY with the result that seven buildings disappeared and went up in smoke. Americans then cheered the bold decisions to military attack Afghanistan and Iraq killing 100 000's of innocent people with only 10 000 American KIAs, etc, etc. No conspiracies anywhere. Just plenty stupid people not understanding anything including orbital mechanics.

 

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disputeone

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #828 on: July 04, 2017, 01:49:59 AM »
No conspiracies anywhere. Just plenty stupid people not understanding anything including orbital mechanics.

Actually at least one of your "challenges" involves quite a large conspiracy to hide the truth. Hell, I would argue all three of them do.

Here's a bone, please use the word correctly in the future.

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conspiracy

kənˈspɪrəsi/

noun

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

"a conspiracy to destroy the government"

synonyms:plot, scheme, stratagem, plan,machination, cabal; More

the action of plotting or conspiring.

"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"

synonyms:plotting, collusion, intrigue,connivance, machination,collaboration;

treason

"he was due to stand trial for conspiracy to murder"
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #829 on: July 04, 2017, 02:02:47 AM »
No conspiracies anywhere. Just plenty stupid people not understanding anything including orbital mechanics.

Actually at least one of your "challenges" involves quite a large conspiracy to hide the truth. Hell, I would argue all three of them do.

Here's a bone, please use the word correctly in the future.

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conspiracy

kənˈspɪrəsi/

noun

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

"a conspiracy to destroy the government"

synonyms:plot, scheme, stratagem, plan,machination, cabal; More

the action of plotting or conspiring.

"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"

synonyms:plotting, collusion, intrigue,connivance, machination,collaboration;

treason

"he was due to stand trial for conspiracy to murder"

At my website I think differently:

A-bombs are quite legal to vaporize enemies of all kind 1945. No conspiracy.
Americans pissing on the Moon is great entertainment 1969. No conspiracy.
A Baltic ferry sinking 1994 killing ~1 000 persons is a tragedy. But according to the authorities it was all due to a design fault. Only I have a different opinion. I suggest the ship was not seaworthy.
The 911 incident has been thoroughly investigated by US authorities and it was all due to 19 Arabs and their boss in a cave somewhere. No conspiracy.
Fusion on Earth is possible, a plant is built down the road from me at great expense. No conspiracy.

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Pezevenk

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #830 on: July 04, 2017, 02:23:19 AM »
At my website I think differently:

Yes, you avoid thinking at all costs.

Btw, the piss obsession is becoming increasingly disturbing.
It is not a scientific fact, it is a scientific fuck!
-Intikam

Who wants to be a firefly and who wants to be a blue whale?
-Sceptimatic

Please do not jizz to win an argument.
-Crutonius

Read a bit psicology and stick your imo to where it comes from.
-Inty (again)

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disputeone

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #831 on: July 04, 2017, 02:34:28 AM »
The 911 incident has been thoroughly investigated by US authorities and it was all due to 19 Arabs and their boss in a cave somewhere. No conspiracy.

You idiot, Heiwa.
I'll just quote the relevant part.

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conspiracy

kənˈspɪrəsi/

noun

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

"a conspiracy to destroy the government"

synonyms:plot, scheme, stratagem, plan,machination, cabal; More

the action of plotting or conspiring.

"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"

synonyms:plotting, collusion, intrigue,connivance, machination,collaboration;

treason

"he was due to stand trial for conspiracy to murder"
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #832 on: July 04, 2017, 03:59:37 AM »
At my website I think differently:

Yes, you avoid thinking at all costs.

Btw, the piss obsession is becoming increasingly disturbing.
Hm, I just think differently - for obvious reasons explained at http://heiwaco.com . People living in one place all their lives just watching TV evidently avoid thinking like me.

And I am not obsessed by sanitary facilities, etc. In my early days the no WC was common.

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onebigmonkey

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #833 on: July 04, 2017, 04:04:35 AM »
You tend to find that a lot of conspiraloons are arrogant wankers, and they assume that because no-one has come to the same conclusions as they have that everyone else hasn't bothered looking into things or is in some way inferior to them because reasons.

Heiwa is no different.

His conclusions are wrong, his website is full of lies and mistakes, and he is an arrogant wanker for assuming he knows better than everyone else just because he happens to have moved house.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html

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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #834 on: July 04, 2017, 04:16:26 AM »
The 911 incident has been thoroughly investigated by US authorities and it was all due to 19 Arabs and their boss in a cave somewhere. No conspiracy.

You idiot, Heiwa.
I'll just quote the relevant part.

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conspiracy

kənˈspɪrəsi/

noun

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

"a conspiracy to destroy the government"

synonyms:plot, scheme, stratagem, plan,machination, cabal; More

the action of plotting or conspiring.

"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"

synonyms:plotting, collusion, intrigue,connivance, machination,collaboration;

treason

"he was due to stand trial for conspiracy to murder"

Hm, according GWB and Condoleezza 911 (2001) was an attack on USA by UBL (an Arab with a turban and a beard hiding in a cave) & Co planned since long, we were told at once by them 912 or 913. It seems US military & Co were caught with their pants down 911, but it was no conspiracy. Shit happens. Nobody in USA could imagine that 19 Arabs could sneak in and hijack four planes and destroy WTC/NY and Pentagon/DC, while the US military was visiting the toilets. So no conspiracy. Just bad luck.
My contribution to the incident is that structures do not collapse from top down, i.e. a weak top C of a structure cannot crush the intact, strong bottom A of same structure by gravity, if a part B between top C and bottom A is on fire allowing C to drop on A.
A always stops C from dropping. It is the Björkman's Axiom of structural dynamic collapse analysis.

Condi hates me for it.


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frenat

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #835 on: July 04, 2017, 05:00:53 AM »

Condi hates me for it.
I doubt Condi knows or cares who you are.  More LIES from Heiwa to make himself look more important.

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disputeone

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #836 on: July 04, 2017, 05:10:34 AM »
no conspiracy

Are you really this disconnected. Can you not see, using the definition of conspiracy, that 9/11 involves a conspiracy either way you look at it. Are you really unable to use words properly?

One more time

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Conspiracy.
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

the action of plotting or conspiring.

Now, lets apply those definitions to the 9/11 official story we had a secret plan, by a group called Al-Qaeda to do something unlawful and harmful. Leading up to the event they engaged in the actions of plotting and conspiring.

Now, using our accepted definition of conspiracy can you kindly admit you are wrong.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 05:12:30 AM by disputeone »
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Heiwa

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #837 on: July 04, 2017, 05:38:28 AM »
no conspiracy

Are you really this disconnected. Can you not see, using the definition of conspiracy, that 9/11 involves a conspiracy either way you look at it. Are you really unable to use words properly?

One more time

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Conspiracy.
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

the action of plotting or conspiring.

Now, lets apply those definitions to the 9/11 official story we had a secret plan, by a group called Al-Qaeda to do something unlawful and harmful. Leading up to the event they engaged in the actions of plotting and conspiring.

Now, using our accepted definition of conspiracy can you kindly admit you are wrong.
Hm, assuming that a group called Al-Qaeda had a secret plan to something unlawful and harmful called 911, it seems it was not secret to GWB and Condi that the next day knew everything about it and informed media, etc. So no secrecy, no conspiracy!
It reminds me of Pear Harbour December 1941 when FDR/Stalin had broken all Japanese codes, knew all Japanese secrets and let it happen. No conspiracy at all.

Terrorism on the other hand is always about doing something unlawful and harmful being planned in secrecy. Maybe you mix up the two?

What has this to do with understanding in orbital mechanics?

Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #838 on: July 04, 2017, 07:40:25 AM »
no conspiracy

Are you really this disconnected. Can you not see, using the definition of conspiracy, that 9/11 involves a conspiracy either way you look at it. Are you really unable to use words properly?

One more time

Quote
Conspiracy.
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

the action of plotting or conspiring.

Now, lets apply those definitions to the 9/11 official story we had a secret plan, by a group called Al-Qaeda to do something unlawful and harmful. Leading up to the event they engaged in the actions of plotting and conspiring.

Now, using our accepted definition of conspiracy can you kindly admit you are wrong.
Hm, assuming that a group called Al-Qaeda had a secret plan to something unlawful and harmful called 911, it seems it was not secret to GWB and Condi that the next day knew everything about it and informed media, etc. So no secrecy, no conspiracy!
It reminds me of Pear Harbour December 1941 when FDR/Stalin had broken all Japanese codes, knew all Japanese secrets and let it happen. No conspiracy at all.

Terrorism on the other hand is always about doing something unlawful and harmful being planned in secrecy. Maybe you mix up the two?

What has this to do with understanding in orbital mechanics?
There really isn't anything to add about your understanding of orbital mechanics.  You have none.
As for conspiracy, you just demonstrated you don't even know what that word means.

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Re: Heiwas lack of understanding in orbital mechanics
« Reply #839 on: July 04, 2017, 08:37:08 AM »
Hm, assuming that a group called Al-Qaeda had a secret plan to something unlawful and harmful called 911, it seems it was not secret to GWB and Condi that the next day knew everything about it and informed media, etc. So no secrecy, no conspiracy!
It reminds me of Pear Harbour December 1941 when FDR/Stalin had broken all Japanese codes, knew all Japanese secrets and let it happen. No conspiracy at all.

Terrorism on the other hand is always about doing something unlawful and harmful being planned in secrecy. Maybe you mix up the two?

What has this to do with understanding in orbital mechanics?

Nothing at all. Why do you keep bringing it up?
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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