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I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

Source: http://www.apollo.mem-tek.com/LRO_NAC_Apollo_11_Enhanced_Images.html

OBM: Is the white dot between the LMs feet the flag? from the Apollo 11 photos it was further away. http://www.apollo.mem-tek.com/LRO/a11/M139755141RE_cropped1_decompanded_2X_deconvolved_fft_final_0dot25meters.tif

I think the general consensus is that the Apollo 11 flag would have been blown away by the blast from the ascent engine - particularly as they had some difficulty making sure it was in the ground far enough.

It's more likely that it one of the PLSS, which were discarded down the steps before returning to orbit. This was recorded in the TV broadcast, and if you time how long it takes the PLSS to get to ground level it is entirely consistent with lunar gravity.

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:54:39 AM

I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

I simply asked for a non nasa image of Apollo debris.......still waiting.........

Quote from: onebigmonkey on March 30, 2017, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:54:39 AM

I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

I simply asked for a non nasa image of Apollo debris.......still waiting.........

Have been given to you.

We are not going to spoonfeed you, look back at page 38 for the images from other space agencies.

There are also impact craters on the moon made by deorbiting Apollo debris.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on March 30, 2017, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:54:39 AM

I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

I simply asked for a non nasa image of Apollo debris.......still waiting.........

You can't click a link?

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:51:23 AM

where are the non nasa images of debris ?

Do you mean these?
http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2008/05/20080520_kaguya_e.html

Quote from: onebigmonkey on March 30, 2017, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:54:39 AM

I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

I simply asked for a non nasa image of Apollo debris.......still waiting.........

Like I said, pretending it didn't happen and will very soon deploy his escape clause of 'but I said debris'.

The fact is that Soviet, Chinese, Japanese and Indian probes have taken photographs that contain small details of the lunar surface that were not visible in any of the photographs available to the pre-Apollo images but were photographed and broadcast on live TV by Apollo. We're not just talking about lumps of metal and plastic, we're talking about small rocks and craters exactly where Apollo photographed them. The fact is that Japanese and Indian probes have also photographed evidence of human activity.

The Indian images of Apollo 14 and Apollo 16's sites are particularly revealing. You might think that India proudly announced those trails in their photographs to the world, but the reality is that they didn't discover them - I did. I downloaded the raw images, processed them and there the evidence is. No intervention by anyone else required, no chance that it was faked.

So OBM discovered "tiny details" of proof (but no debris images) and I am being asked to read a link that proclaims a "probable halo" as more proof .

So are we saying there is no independent debris image just straw clutching probables and comparible topography ?

mkay......and none of this strikes anyone as strange or a bit of a stretch.

From my perspective it has the deathly stench of desperation and delusional wishful thinking

Why no actual image of debris that we can actually see ?
It's only being half a century since "man's greatest achievement"

So OBM discovered "tiny details" of proof (but no debris images) and I am being asked to read a link that proclaims a "probable halo" as more proof .

So are we saying there is no independent debris image just straw clutching probables and comparible topography ?

mkay......and none of this strikes anyone as strange or a bit of a stretch.

From my perspective it has the deathly stench of desperation and delusional wishful thinking

Why no actual image of debris that we can actually see ?
It's only being half a century since "man's greatest achievement"

Do you see the out-of-place dot and vague trails?

The dot is the LM descent stage, aka debris left behind.
The trails are footpaths.

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 11:30:34 AM

Quote from: onebigmonkey on March 30, 2017, 10:55:23 AM

Quote from: feuk on March 30, 2017, 04:54:39 AM

I see the wagons are being circled with panicked yelps,
however actual rebuttal appear very thin on the ground.

nice to see some golden oldies being dusted off though,
makes me feel all nostalgic 

Standard hoaxtard response. Demand evidence they think doesn't exist, pretend it hasn't happened when they get given it.

You got nothing.

I simply asked for a non nasa image of Apollo debris.......still waiting.........

Like I said, pretending it didn't happen and will very soon deploy his escape clause of 'but I said debris'.

The fact is that Soviet, Chinese, Japanese and Indian probes have taken photographs that contain small details of the lunar surface that were not visible in any of the photographs available to the pre-Apollo images but were photographed and broadcast on live TV by Apollo. We're not just talking about lumps of metal and plastic, we're talking about small rocks and craters exactly where Apollo photographed them. The fact is that Japanese and Indian probes have also photographed evidence of human activity.

The Indian images of Apollo 14 and Apollo 16's sites are particularly revealing. You might think that India proudly announced those trails in their photographs to the world, but the reality is that they didn't discover them - I did. I downloaded the raw images, processed them and there the evidence is. No intervention by anyone else required, no chance that it was faked.

Can you give me your sources to all the images? or where you got them from, where you found them.

I've compiled all of my sources, and how to process them, here:

http://onebigmonkey.com/tuts/tuthome.html

China have been revamping their site and images do seem to be available again, but it is a pain to work out how to get at them:

http://moon.bao.ac.cn/

You need to register to download things, but my page above has a dropbox link to their most detailed images covering the Apollo sites. I'm waiting for them to get their more detailed DEM tiles online, which have been 'coming soon' for a while!

High res Apollo metric and panoramic camera data are here:

http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/apollo/browse

Some Soviet data are here

http://www.planetology.ru/panoramas/lunokhod2.php?page=0&language=english

and here

http://mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogMoon.htm