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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #240 on: January 24, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 24, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Biden pissed off the Ute tribe https://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/featured-articles/26116-ute-indian-tribe-of-the-uintah-and-ouray-reservation-oppose-biden-s-leasing-permitting-ban

This will be interesting. Will the Biden administration work out a compromise? Or will the tribe have to sue in court?

At least it won't end with Biden calling them Pocahontas and saying 'those dirty injuns should go back wo where they came from'.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #241 on: January 24, 2021, 12:41:54 PM »
I have a feeling a lot of his executive orders will end up in court.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #242 on: January 24, 2021, 12:55:45 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 24, 2021, 12:41:54 PM
I have a feeling a lot of his executive orders will end up in court.

That's what the courts are for. If and of Biden's are unconstitutional then they can, and should be struck down. I'd be happy if the powers of the Presidency were reigned in, they have been expanding freely for far too long and we have now been shown that we can't trust Presidents to be even remotely sane anymore.

We came far too close to turning into a dictatorship than I would like to believe was possible.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #243 on: January 24, 2021, 02:42:23 PM »
He should just declare a national emergency and redirect money from the military towards vaccine production. 

It worked for Trump.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #244 on: January 24, 2021, 03:36:26 PM »
Has anyone read through the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act? https://schneider.house.gov/sites/schneider.house.gov/files/DTPA%20of%202021.pdf
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #245 on: January 24, 2021, 03:44:14 PM »
I just clicked and started perusing. Looks like it has a general interest in detailing domestic terror threats and concerns, with a lot of additional specificity for white supremacists and neo-Nazis, and especially those that make it into a law enforcement agency of some sort.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #246 on: January 24, 2021, 04:15:56 PM »
Well they do need to find a way to keep them out of law enforcement. I just hope they don't add more surveillance like the Patriot Act.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #247 on: January 24, 2021, 04:23:20 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 24, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
Well they do need to find a way to keep them out of law enforcement. I just hope they don't add more surveillance like the Patriot Act.
Agreed. Funny thing about the Patriot Act. They very recently (like, 2020 recently) had a chance to get rid of some provisions in it that allowed them to do things like collect your internet search history without a warrant. It had bipartisan sponsorship. And it was unceremoniously voted down, again in bipartisan fashion. Fucking infuriating. When it comes to bills that they don't think anyone is really paying attention to, these assholes in congress really don't care to do much of anything.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2021, 05:08:00 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 24, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
Well they do need to find a way to keep them out of law enforcement. I just hope they don't add more surveillance like the Patriot Act.

The good news is that the "squad" is firmly against it.  Hopefully anyone attempting such a thing will be in the minority.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #249 on: January 24, 2021, 05:19:56 PM »
The factions in the Democrats are so weird.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #250 on: January 24, 2021, 05:27:53 PM »
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The factions in the Democrats are so weird.

The factions in general are so weird.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #251 on: January 24, 2021, 10:52:48 PM »
Its just pathetic how the US becomes more and more like china and north korea by implementing more and more surveilance. 'Terrorism' fucking LMAO! Daily covid deaths are higher than a decade of terrorism deaths yet y'all dont give a fuck. Truely sad to watch.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #252 on: January 24, 2021, 11:03:07 PM »
I already started a "Why do you support Joe Biden" thread and it got pushed way down so this thread could be started with "I don't" removed as an option. On purpose or not, who knows, just interesting.


Though it's already started, dipshit is passing a bunch of executive orders that are terrible. One of many that is despicable is the transgender one for schools. Gotta let trans girls play on the girls teams, otherwise you just might lose your funding.

Combine shit like that, identity politics, racial politics, free money for everyone and don't forget starting that good ole war machine back up!!

Couldn't just deal with orange man tweeting dumb shit?? You could just not read... He was going to start no wars and he did well for the economy (even many MSM sources said he did well for the economy, of course after he was gone)... Oh well...

Least the MSM is happy and all the late night talk show hosts....you would think Biden is God Himself now, but the MSM isn't biased or liberal they tell me. That penguin does look like a ferret
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #253 on: January 25, 2021, 01:17:03 AM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on January 24, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
I already started a "Why do you support Joe Biden" thread and it got pushed way down so this thread could be started with "I don't" removed as an option. On purpose or not, who knows, just interesting.


Though it's already started, dipshit is passing a bunch of executive orders that are terrible. One of many that is despicable is the transgender one for schools. Gotta let trans girls play on the girls teams, otherwise you just might lose your funding.

Combine shit like that, identity politics, racial politics, free money for everyone and don't forget starting that good ole war machine back up!!

Couldn't just deal with orange man tweeting dumb shit?? You could just not read... He was going to start no wars and he did well for the economy (even many MSM sources said he did well for the economy, of course after he was gone)... Oh well...

Least the MSM is happy and all the late night talk show hosts....you would think Biden is God Himself now, but the MSM isn't biased or liberal they tell me. That penguin does look like a ferret

This thread started before yours actually but got pushed down. After he became president elect I searched for it and bumped it back up.

The late night show hosts are putting on an act
They can't be that happy... Trump was the gift that kept on giving. They may be made redundant now as politics grinds to a boring halt
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #254 on: January 25, 2021, 01:49:32 AM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on January 24, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
I already started a "Why do you support Joe Biden" thread and it got pushed way down so this thread could be started with "I don't" removed as an option. On purpose or not, who knows, just interesting.


Though it's already started, dipshit is passing a bunch of executive orders that are terrible. One of many that is despicable is the transgender one for schools. Gotta let trans girls play on the girls teams, otherwise you just might lose your funding.

Combine shit like that, identity politics, racial politics, free money for everyone and don't forget starting that good ole war machine back up!!

Couldn't just deal with orange man tweeting dumb shit?? You could just not read... He was going to start no wars and he did well for the economy (even many MSM sources said he did well for the economy, of course after he was gone)... Oh well...

Least the MSM is happy and all the late night talk show hosts....you would think Biden is God Himself now, but the MSM isn't biased or liberal they tell me. That penguin does look like a ferret

Maybe if you asked Shifter nicely then he'll add the option.

I'm looking at his list of EOs,

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/all-of-president-bidens-key-executive-orders-in-one-chart-2021-01-21

1,2,3 I think these are good things.
4 is debatable.  I'd like them to find a way to do it that doesn't bisect a native american city.
5,6 are good.  I think they're much needed for pandemic relief.
7 the 1776 Commission was a work of propaganda so good riddance.  "initiative to advance racial equity" is so vague that I can't judge it.
8,9,10 these seem like no brainers
11  I'm assuming this is the transgendered soccer team one?  I'd have to look into this more.  I don't like the idea of girls teams to accept transgendered boys.
12,13,14,15 seem fine
16,17 is vague.  I don't know what it means.
18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25 covid stuff, seems like good things to me.
26 I'm not so sure about this.  Sounds like virtue signalling.
27,28,29  These seems like good things too.

Which ones other than the transgender one do you object to?
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #255 on: January 25, 2021, 01:58:31 AM »
Quote from: Crouton on January 25, 2021, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: Bom Tishop on January 24, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
I already started a "Why do you support Joe Biden" thread and it got pushed way down so this thread could be started with "I don't" removed as an option. On purpose or not, who knows, just interesting.


Though it's already started, dipshit is passing a bunch of executive orders that are terrible. One of many that is despicable is the transgender one for schools. Gotta let trans girls play on the girls teams, otherwise you just might lose your funding.

Combine shit like that, identity politics, racial politics, free money for everyone and don't forget starting that good ole war machine back up!!

Couldn't just deal with orange man tweeting dumb shit?? You could just not read... He was going to start no wars and he did well for the economy (even many MSM sources said he did well for the economy, of course after he was gone)... Oh well...

Least the MSM is happy and all the late night talk show hosts....you would think Biden is God Himself now, but the MSM isn't biased or liberal they tell me. That penguin does look like a ferret

Maybe if you asked Shifter nicely then he'll add the option.

I'm looking at his list of EOs,

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/all-of-president-bidens-key-executive-orders-in-one-chart-2021-01-21

1,2,3 I think these are good things.
4 is debatable.  I'd like them to find a way to do it that doesn't bisect a native american city.
5,6 are good.  I think they're much needed for pandemic relief.
7 the 1776 Commission was a work of propaganda so good riddance.  "initiative to advance racial equity" is so vague that I can't judge it.
8,9,10 these seem like no brainers
11  I'm assuming this is the transgendered soccer team one?  I'd have to look into this more.  I don't like the idea of girls teams to accept transgendered boys.
12,13,14,15 seem fine
16,17 is vague.  I don't know what it means.
18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25 covid stuff, seems like good things to me.
26 I'm not so sure about this.  Sounds like virtue signalling.
27,28,29  These seems like good things too.

Which ones other than the transgender one do you object to?

Hmm, I would respond but I think we may be seeing different styled page. I am on mobile, and I have no numbers visible, just counting them down, they don't match. Example, number 11 is about the Muslim travel ban
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #256 on: January 25, 2021, 01:59:54 AM »
They aren't numbered for me either.  My count might be a little off.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #257 on: January 25, 2021, 04:54:46 AM »
1 Re-engage with World Health Organization - End withdrawal process   
2 Create position of COVID-19 response coordinator    - Executive order
3 Rejoin Paris climate agreement - Sign an "instrument"
4 Revoke permit for Keystone XL pipeline, pause energy leasing in ANWR    - Executive order
5 Ask agencies to extend eviction/foreclosure moratoriums   - Request   
6 Ask Education Dept. to extend student-loan pause - Request
7 Launch an initiative to advance racial equity, end "1776 Commission"    - Executive order
8 Revoke order that aims to exclude undocumented immigrants from census    - Executive order
9 Preserve/fortify DACA, which helps "Dreamers"    - Memorandum
10 Require masks/distancing on all federal property and by federal workers    - Executive order
11 Reverse travel ban targeting primarily Muslim countries    - Executive order
12 Stop construction of border wall - Proclamation
13 Combat discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity    - Executive order
14 Require ethics pledge for executive-branch personnel    - Executive order
15 Modernize and improve regulatory review    - Memorandum
16 End "harsh and extreme immigration enforcement"    - Executive order
17 Extend protection from deportation for Liberians in U.S.    - Memorandum
18 Revoke certain executive orders concerning federal regulation  - Executive order
19 Freeze any new or pending regulations    - Memorandum
20 Fill supply shortfalls in fight vs. COVID-19 with Defense Production Act, other measures - Executive order
21 Increase FEMA reimbursement to states for National Guard, PPE    - Memorandum
22 Establish “COVID-19 Pandemic Testing Board,” expand testing    - Executive order
23 Bolster access to COVID-19 treatments and clinical care    - Executive order
24 Improve collection/analysis of COVID-related data    - Executive order
25 Mount vaccination campaign amid goals such as 100 million shots in 100 days    - Directive
26 Provide guidance on safely reopening schools    - Executive order
27 OSHA guidance for keeping workers safe from COVID-19    - Executive order
28 Require face masks at airports, other modes of transportation    - Executive order
29 Establish a “COVID-19 Health Equity Task Force”    - Executive order
30 Support international response to COVID-19, “restore U.S. global leadership”    - Directive
31 Ask agencies to boost food aid, improve delivery of stimulus checks    - Executive order
32 Restore collective bargaining power for federal workers    - Executive order

Handy reference.

As for number 13, saying it's only about letting transgender male children play with girls is vastly over simplifying it to the point of being deceitful.  It's about discrimination in a variety of ways, many of which I agree with, some which I do not. I don't like the sports part either, but it's a no-win situation really. No matter how it's decided, some people will be unhappy, and some people will be VERY unhappy.

I also see a lot that I like in here.  If you have hyper focus on transgenders in sports, then I guess you might miss the rest.  Most people frankly don't really care.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #258 on: January 25, 2021, 06:12:08 AM »
Wow
Picked one out of 28or so.
Nice cherry picking.
Keep hand waving there, bom
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #259 on: January 25, 2021, 06:39:23 AM »
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Its just pathetic how the US becomes more and more like china and north korea by implementing more and more surveilance.
Have you been to England lately?
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #260 on: January 25, 2021, 06:48:56 AM »
I didn't know EO's had been kicking around this long. But they go way back, to the beginning, in fact. From Carter on:

39   Jimmy Carter   Democratic       320   
40   Ronald Reagan   Republican       381   
41   George H. W. Bush   Republica.     166   
42   Bill Clinton   Democratic               364   
43   George W. Bush   Republican       291   
44   Barack Obama   Democratic       276   
45   Donald Trump   Republican       220   
46   Joe Biden   Democratic                 19 (Maybe up to 28 as of today)
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #261 on: January 25, 2021, 07:12:45 AM »
Quote from: Themightykabool on January 25, 2021, 06:12:08 AM
Wow
Picked one out of 28or so.
Nice cherry picking.
Keep hand waving there, bom

It is the most damaging one. It will force self ID, which means anyone can say they identify as the opposite sex, and any institution that doesn't comply will have federal funding cut off. The people who will benefit the most are pharmaceutical companies, and plastic surgeons. Lifelong expensive medical requirements for anyone who goes very far into medical transition, even if they detransition because female reproduction organs atrophy after a few years on testosterone (and of course, you can't regrow a uterus after a hysterectomy).  Most do not object to the anti discrimination parts of this executive order. Everyone deserves fair housing, employment, access to medical care, and to live free from violence.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #262 on: January 25, 2021, 07:20:55 AM »
I guess we could storm the capitol and ask for Trumps patriot party to be installed? That's how it's done in America these days. The bar has been set

And remember what you've always been taught

If at first you don't succeed, try and try again.

Actually don't do that. That's how cavemen settle disputes. You guys are American... Oh wait...

Perhaps if enough people want to chop their dicks off they can make a 3rd 'trans' games.

Or seriously, just do Boms idea and make a vagina league. Do that

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #263 on: January 25, 2021, 07:28:45 AM »
A vagina league would be transphobic, since anything that doesn't include the very feminine penis is transphobic. Shit, Miley Cyrus is transphobic because she thinks boobs are more attractive than hairy balls.
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« Reply #264 on: January 25, 2021, 07:39:47 AM »
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A vagina league would be transphobic, since anything that doesn't include the very feminine penis is transphobic. Shit, Miley Cyrus is transphobic because she thinks boobs are more attractive than hairy balls.

Count me as a trabsphobe too. Boobs are definately more attractive than hairy balls. Or even shaved ones. Or even the ones hanging from Fabio himself

Have a penis league to balance it out. Then the trans morons can be so disgusted with both of them they form their own BS league

It really is shit. And thanks to Trump lowering the bar so much this kinda nonsense BS will get a free pass

Biden should be careful pandering to this BS. I get he wants to be polar opposite to Trump but this is too much!
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #265 on: January 25, 2021, 08:15:39 AM »
I want to add, it isn't just women's sports, it's any sex segregated space. We already know that women have been raped and assaulted by men taking advantage of trans identity in prisons. It's happened in every country that allows this (including the US). This will also affect women's homeless and domestic violence shelters if they receive federal funding.

Before anyone gets mad at me, I do not think all trans women are violent rapists. Most people do not know that you don't have to medically transition at all to identify as trans. Most men who identify as trans keep their peens. The debate over who is really trans isn't even allowed to happen since lobby groups such as Stonewall have decided trans is an umbrella that covers everyone from cross dressers to those who have undergone SRS.
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« Reply #266 on: January 25, 2021, 08:28:01 AM »
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Before anyone gets mad at me, I do not think all trans women are violent rapists. Most people do not know that you don't have to medically transition at all to identify as trans. Most men who identify as trans keep their peens. The debate over who is really trans isn't even allowed to happen since lobby groups such as Stonewall have decided trans is an umbrella that covers everyone from cross dressers to those who have undergone SRS.

I might be paranoid but I think that whole Bruce Jenner transitioning was a) getting more screen time on Kardashian show but also to try and get off lightly (because all the attention of coming out as trans and the 'woe is me I'm hard done by now' after killing someone in his at fault car accident

Funny - You search 'Bruce Jenner' in Google and it gives you Caitlyn Jenner. FFS lol

I bet in America land of I called her Bruce I'd be at risk for being arrested for a hate crime. Saying 'he' would probably do it. At the very least I'd be doxxed and told to kill myself on every social media platform

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #267 on: January 25, 2021, 08:28:29 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 25, 2021, 08:15:39 AM
I want to add, it isn't just women's sports, it's any sex segregated space. We already know that women have been raped and assaulted by men taking advantage of trans identity in prisons. It's happened in every country that allows this (including the US). This will also affect women's homeless and domestic violence shelters if they receive federal funding.

Before anyone gets mad at me, I do not think all trans women are violent rapists. Most people do not know that you don't have to medically transition at all to identify as trans. Most men who identify as trans keep their peens. The debate over who is really trans isn't even allowed to happen since lobby groups such as Stonewall have decided trans is an umbrella that covers everyone from cross dressers to those who have undergone SRS.

Men are raped in sickeningly large numbers in prisons, and usually it's just joked about if talked about at all.

I think fixing that problem would prevent more rapes than any legislation for or against tran people and where we allow them to go to the bathroom.

The problem with all of this is tran people are not a one size fits all, you have dozens of possibilities based on the gender they start with and how much of the process they do or don't go through and how capable they are of defending themselves or not.  Not to mention people who naturally have mismatched equipment and genders. 

I think people should be allowed to self identify. Why isn't it their right to decide what they want to be called, why should someone else force them to be or live a certain way?  It's their life, they should be able to decide. 
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #268 on: January 25, 2021, 08:30:26 AM »
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 25, 2021, 08:15:39 AM

Before anyone gets mad at me, I do not think all trans women are violent rapists. Most people do not know that you don't have to medically transition at all to identify as trans. Most men who identify as trans keep their peens. The debate over who is really trans isn't even allowed to happen since lobby groups such as Stonewall have decided trans is an umbrella that covers everyone from cross dressers to those who have undergone SRS.

I might be paranoid but I think that whole Bruce Jenner transitioning was a) getting more screen time on Kardashian show but also to try and get off lightly (because all the attention of coming out as trans and the 'woe is me I'm hard done by now' after killing someone in his at fault car accident

Funny - You search 'Bruce Jenner' in Google and it gives you Caitlyn Jenner. FFS lol

I bet in America land of I called her Bruce I'd be at risk for being arrested for a hate crime. Saying 'he' would probably do it. At the very least I'd be doxxed and told to kill myself on every social media platform

Yeah and if someone gets married and changes their name and you keep intentionally calling them the wrong name, you're still being a jerk and if you did it to someone famous on social media then yeah, you would get yelled at.

Turns out if you're rude, people tend to not like that. :)
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #269 on: January 25, 2021, 08:39:34 AM »
There's a huge difference between someone deciding what they want to be called and allowing males to be housed in prisons with females.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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