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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27000 on: June 16, 2026, 04:09:14 PM »
Bulma didn't like what the Bible said. Bulma rewrote it so that it fits with what Bulma likes.

So it seems, so it seems.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27001 on: June 16, 2026, 05:08:40 PM »
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-netanyahu-rift-israel-not-exist-without-potus-12078441

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"Israel would have been blown up a long time ago, had I not gotten involved," said Trump, although he denied frustration with Netanyahu, saying the two had “a great relationship,” but he criticized a recent Israeli attack in Lebanon and said too many civilians were being killed.

Referring to an unspecified Israeli strike, Trump said: "I saw that attack, I saw where that bomb went. That was vicious." Trump said as he also warned Netanyahu to be "more responsible" with respect to Lebanon.

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Trump said Tuesday that Lebanon has been “treated the worst” out of “all countries” as they “can’t defend themselves” as they deal with Hezbollah, which the government in Beirut cannot control.

He added that Israel had been "fighting Hezbollah for too long, and too many people are being killed."

"You don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for somebody because there's a lot of people in those apartment houses and they're not all Hezbollah, that I can tell you," he added.

I think Trump is annoyed with Netanyahu, but is he annoyed enough to do something about it? Probably not. He wants Israel to let Syria deal with Hezbollah.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27002 on: June 16, 2026, 05:18:21 PM »
He wants Israel to let Syria deal with Hezbollah.
But does Syria want to deal with Hezbollah?
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I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27004 on: June 16, 2026, 07:05:03 PM »
You condemn people as bad who should be your brothers and sisters in Christ.

Bulma I dont know how to break this to you but they aren't brothers and sisters in Christ.

By definition.

Jesus was a Christian?

Nope, Jesus was a Jew.

Therefore, Jews are our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Again, the Messiah will defend Israel.

Is Trump fit enough to do this job though?

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ghost-of-biden-haunts-trump-us-president-s-weird-walk-in-tokyo-stuns-japanese-pm/vi-AA1PkhXT

His age shows, now and then. I have said this before. The Lord ordains the leaders on this Earth, but if they start to trust in their own power, this sort of thing happens.
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19For a time, Daniel, was perplexed, and his thoughts alarmed him.
So the king said, “Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its interpretation alarm you.”

“My lord,” replied Daniel, “may the dream apply to those who hate you, and its interpretation to your enemies!
20The tree you saw that grew large and strong, whose top reached the sky and was visible to all the earth, 21whose foliage was beautiful and whose fruit was abundant, providing food for all, under which the beasts of the field lived, and in whose branches the birds of the air nested— 22you, O king, are that tree! For you have become great and strong; your greatness has grown to reach the sky, and your dominion extends to the ends of the earth.

23And you, O king, saw a watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying:
‘Cut down the tree and destroy it,
but leave the stump with its roots in the ground,
with a band of iron and bronze around it,
in the tender grass of the field.
Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven,
and graze with the beasts of the field
till seven times pass him by.’

24This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree that the Most High has issued against my lord the king:
25You will be driven away from mankind, and your dwelling will be with the beasts of the field. You will feed on grass like an ox and be drenched with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass you by, until you acknowledge that the Most High rules over the kingdom of mankind and gives it to whom He wishes.

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28All this happened to King Nebuchadnezzar. 29Twelve months later, as he was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon, 30the king exclaimed, “Is this not Babylon the Great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty?”

31While the words were still in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven: “It is decreed to you, King Nebuchadnezzar, that the kingdom has departed from you. 32You will be driven away from mankind to live with the beasts of the field, and you will feed on grass like an ox. And seven times will pass you by, until you acknowledge that the Most High rules over the kingdom of mankind and gives it to whom He wishes.”

33At that moment the sentence against Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from mankind. He ate grass like an ox, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
What human beings call senility. Leaders that become arrogant are shown the glory of God.

So long as Trump's reign is aligned with the Lord, it does not matter what the rest of the world thinks. But if he doesn't do his job correctly, he is put to pasture.


Being the Messiah is a job. Certain groups of Jews believed every generation has a Messiah candidate.

The job is either fulfilled, fired, or retired. You don't want to be fired as Messiah though.

Simon Bar Kochba is an object lesson if what happens when you try the job and God doesn't like your work.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27005 on: June 16, 2026, 08:10:54 PM »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27006 on: June 16, 2026, 10:22:53 PM »
Heh you guys have no idea how fast Israel would cut this shit if US politicians were even a tiny bit willing to make them stop.
Given where we are now...I'm going to say not that fast at all.

It will take way more than "tiny bit willing" to stop them now.

Lol.

If the US said "cut that shit or we stop giving you weapons and we sanction you on top of it" they would stop yesterday.
Oh, thought you said a "tiny bit willing", not a complete reversal of decades of fundamental foreign policy.

Trump threatened to invade Greenland, is that not a "reversal" of "fundamental foreign policy"? How are you going to say they are willing for something to happen, if they're not going to even threaten to do anything about it? They just have red lines about everything, if everything is a red line for you then clearly you aren't trying.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27008 on: June 16, 2026, 10:31:07 PM »
Heh you guys have no idea how fast Israel would cut this shit if US politicians were even a tiny bit willing to make them stop.
Given where we are now...I'm going to say not that fast at all.

It will take way more than "tiny bit willing" to stop them now.

Lol.

If the US said "cut that shit or we stop giving you weapons and we sanction you on top of it" they would stop yesterday.
Oh, thought you said a "tiny bit willing", not a complete reversal of decades of fundamental foreign policy.

Trump threatened to invade Greenland, is that not a "reversal" of "fundamental foreign policy"? How are you going to say they are willing for something to happen, if they're not going to even threaten to do anything about it? They just have red lines about everything, if everything is a red line for you then clearly you aren't trying.

I dont understand why we act like its unreasonable, unjustifiable or just too difficult to stop funding Israels genocide.

Hey Pez remember when I used to say that for a lot of people, the definition of genocide changes depending on the race its happening to?

Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27009 on: June 16, 2026, 11:08:02 PM »
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    Pez and Jura:
    God says love your neighbor.
    But those Jews are getting uppity. How dare they want more land and better security! They ought to be content with land the size of New Jersey!

Actually, yes.  Yes they should.  Its bigger than they were originally given and they constantly antagonize their neighbors. 

Have you ummm gotten your eyes checked lately?
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God doesn't exist and has no authority to decide shit.  Especially since, by your own history, he broke his promise by taking it from them.

I was referring to after WW2.  When it was given by simps as part of the spoils of war.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27010 on: June 16, 2026, 11:18:10 PM »
Especially since, by your own history, he (God) broke his promise by taking it from them.

Now this is some quality classical anti-semitsm. The new wave of anti-genocide-anti-semitism is boring.

Pointing out that the jews have no Messiah, and no God is Lutheran classical anti-semitism. As lots of Christian scholars have pointed out, The old Testament, The Tanakh, without the gospels is nothing except a collection of broken promises.

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And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.
https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/23-33.htm
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27011 on: June 17, 2026, 05:11:17 AM »
Jesus was

Jesus is.

Jesus will be.

Forever.


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God doesn't exist and has no authority to decide shit.  Especially since, by your own history, he broke his promise by taking it from them.

If God doesn't exist, answer one question. How are you here now?
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The best argument for God's existence is the Kalam Cosmological Argument, which states that everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist, therefore the universe has a cause, which is God.

Against God's existence, the Argument from Divine Hiddenness suggests that if God existed, His existence would be more evident to everyone, and since many people do not believe, it implies that God probably does not exist.

The second assumes that God has a reason to want to be known. But let's address the first. You have a cause. Your parents. But going back to first parents, and the first life, and the first cause, sooner or later, you have to get towards "someone set all this in motion" or employ willful denial.

As for the second, some promises need ideal times.

Isn't Trump's slogan "Promises kept"?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27012 on: June 17, 2026, 05:52:33 AM »

If god is the cause of the universe, what is the cause of god?
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27013 on: June 17, 2026, 06:49:29 AM »
Should I set up a diagram?

Surely you won't understand otherwise.

Remember to recycle!

Seeing as that there is to Christians' and Jews' own admission, no beginning nor end to God, God has no creator because he exists in a cycle of synergy. Loosely speaking: the Trinity created God, God created the Trinity, God is the Trinity. The universe is an effect of God forming matter from himself.

First cause. Surely, you understand the concept of being first, correct? As in, nothing before you.

But by all means, recite tired atheist arguments at me.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27014 on: June 17, 2026, 07:21:02 AM »
Jesus was

Jesus is.

Jesus will be.

Forever.


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God doesn't exist and has no authority to decide shit.  Especially since, by your own history, he broke his promise by taking it from them.

If God doesn't exist, answer one question. How are you here now?
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The best argument for God's existence is the Kalam Cosmological Argument, which states that everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist, therefore the universe has a cause, which is God.

Against God's existence, the Argument from Divine Hiddenness suggests that if God existed, His existence would be more evident to everyone, and since many people do not believe, it implies that God probably does not exist.

The second assumes that God has a reason to want to be known. But let's address the first. You have a cause. Your parents. But going back to first parents, and the first life, and the first cause, sooner or later, you have to get towards "someone set all this in motion" or employ willful denial.

As for the second, some promises need ideal times.

Isn't Trump's slogan "Promises kept"?

Yeah, your argument stops when you realize God is just another step in that list.  The counter is "God is eternal and doesn't count"
Which is a cop out.  An escape.  A way to justify why you're right without anything to back it up.
Guess what?  I can make a diagram too.
Big bang > Universe > big crunch > ball of everything > big bang.  Repeat forever.
See?  Universe is eternal.

Second, there are literally books stating how God walked around with people to talk to them.  If he didn't want to make himself known, he did a really bad job up until Jesus ascended into heaven.  Then he's been oddly silent.

Unless you're Islamic.
Or Mormon.


As for ideal times...
This is, again, a cop out.  The forever "later".  A way to justify why something is or isn't happening without having to explain anything.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27015 on: June 17, 2026, 07:47:40 AM »
It's neither a copout nor an escape.

But here, let's turn the argument around.

What created the emu?

Momma emu. And what created the first emu? Ultimately the atmosphere of the Earth.
And what created the Earth? The circumstances of the nearby planets of your solar system.
And what created the solar system? The galaxy. The universe.
What created that? Physical laws that govern matter.
Wait, how did the physical laws happen without a place (the universe) to manifest? How did the place (the universe) exist without physical laws to determine things like time and space?  Without when and where, nothing exists. And without a cause, we're back to nothing existing never in nowhere.
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Looks like we're back to God. The same God who doesn't need physical laws in order to exist. He just is.

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Big bang > Universe > big crunch > ball of everything > big bang.  Repeat forever.
Whereas your ball of everything needs the addition of energy to grow up to be a big bang. Otherwise, ball of compressed matter continues to be a ball of compressed matter.

This ball of compressed paper could expand outward, if a flame and gunpowder were applied. Otherwise, it sits. And sits. Until your universe model likewise crumbles into a ball of everything. But no, the universe is designed in a way that compressed objects expand outward when they build up critical energy.
Why is it designed that way?
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Looks like we're back to God. Where entropy loses and energy wins, even though there ought to be a net loss of energy in the universe.

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This is, again, a cop out.  The forever "later".  A way to justify why something is or isn't happening without having to explain anything.
Have you noticed that things appear to be happening now?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27016 on: June 17, 2026, 10:02:11 AM »
There's algae in the reflecting pool! ofc there is, it's water in full sunlight. lol
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27017 on: June 17, 2026, 11:14:06 AM »
*Pure ignorance*

We could do this all day but ultimately, you lack the knowledge and I lack the patience.

Let's talk about the topic and how Trump has surrendered to Iran and will give them alot more than Obama did while begging Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27018 on: June 17, 2026, 11:44:00 AM »
So you admit that Obama was a brutal asshole?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27019 on: June 17, 2026, 04:08:38 PM »
Let's talk about the topic and how Trump has surrendered to Iran and will give them alot more than Obama did while begging Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.

Good.

Are you disappointed that the US didnt nuke Iran and call it a day?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27020 on: June 17, 2026, 11:48:53 PM »
Let's talk about the topic and how Trump has surrendered to Iran and will give them alot more than Obama did while begging Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.

Good.

Are you disappointed that the US didnt nuke Iran and call it a day?
I am not.
I'm also happy Trump kept his word and didn't do a ground invasion.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27021 on: Today at 04:27:13 AM »
I think he should have done a ground invasion. Using intelligence troops or special forces, disguised as Muslim couples or something. To assassinate imams, burn a few Qurans, and after they leave, then you use bombers to blast a few mosques and madrassas when nobody occupies them.

Bombs are only marginally useful at ending wars, create alot of collateral damage, and tend to kill civilians because of a bad wind redirecting them. You want Trump to use bombs why exactly? You destroy landmarks in a targeted system to demoralize a country.
Wasting arsenal is not what to do if you're just haphazardly firing. Is it just that you love having an excuse to blame him later?

Military plans should have direction. It should avoid deaths that don't need to happen. The number one rule of military is fewest casualties but most morale impact, or
1. Did you need to blow up that orphanage?
That is to say, if by killing one or two people in a town, you can spare a bombing that would kill 50,000 (whether military or civilians) kill the one or two people.

The best direction I can think of is for the people of Iran to wake up one morning not to this...

But to silence.

You sleep in. You wonder why you did, then days later, you figure it out. The people involved in leading the call to worship are dead. There's nobody coming to replace them.

He should do ground troops, but it should be highly targeted and not very visible, like a ninja squad. And tanks from the sky at the palace and military headquarters.

Trump should draw the attention of people with very outlandish military attacks, then like a magician,

quietly make religious authority in Iran disappear.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27022 on: Today at 04:35:18 AM »

This poor little man-child, bought up on Hollywood heroes and simple answers.
Chuck Norris is dead, your god is a myth, your government are imbiciles, and your reasoning is absurd.
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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« Reply #27023 on: Today at 06:19:52 AM »

This poor little man-child, bought up on Hollywood heroes and simple answers.
Chuck Norris is dead, your god is a myth, your government are imbiciles, and your reasoning is absurd.
Oh common, he's way past even the dumbest 80s Hollywood flic.

None of them had them taking over a country of 90 million people by "Using intelligence troops or special forces, disguised as Muslim couples or something"  who then "burn a few Qurans".

Not sure this is better or worse than his last plan to drop Vietnam era tanks out of a plane who would start shooting mid-air.

BB lives in a bizarre cartoon world.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27024 on: Today at 06:40:59 AM »
I think he should have done a ground invasion. Using intelligence troops or special forces, disguised as Muslim couples or something. To assassinate imams, burn a few Qurans, and after they leave, then you use bombers to blast a few mosques and madrassas when nobody occupies them.
You do realize that few things motivate terrorists more than starting a holy war, don’t you?
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« Reply #27025 on: Today at 06:59:44 AM »
If they make war against God, every person of their country is doomed.

Quote from: Aiken Abridged Bible: Deuteronomy 11
After that, the troops themselves are to see if they can make peace with the lands, fighting them only if they make war instead.  If a country only makes war because they desire something, you are to kill the leaders first, so the warriors lose heart; for I will strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. If they do not lose heart, all the male soldiers they are to kill, but the women, children, and livestock can be left alive.  But this is not so for the seven nations or nations that have declared God as their enemy, they are to make total war against them.

If they only attack Israel because of personal desires, it is enough to destroy their leadership.

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Oh common, he's way past even the dumbest 80s Hollywood flic.

None of them had them taking over a country of 90 million people by "Using intelligence troops or special forces, disguised as Muslim couples or something"  who then "burn a few Qurans".

Not sure this is better or worse than his last plan to drop Vietnam era tanks out of a plane who would start shooting mid-air.

BB lives in a bizarre cartoon world.

In Chuck Norris films, they have a more realistic mindset than you, with your nuanced idea that somehow troops are strong and independent. The truth is, humans that have faith in other humans quickly falter, because few people are independent.

They have symbols to lead them, or generals, or priests. Picture this: you are invading a country, and in the middle of a conversation with your general, when his base got bombed. You hear a scream. "General, what are your orders?" But nothing, not even static, is at the other end. If you haven't a lieutenant or acting commander, you will have to quickly decide for yourself what to do. And that decision is usually, "Fuck this, I'm outta here!" Religious fanatics are not like military troops. Their generals are their religious leaders. They give guidelines for them to carry out, and they trust in the teachings. But enough days without a call to worship, and the whole thing collapses. Without the fanatical mood, the follower has time to say "What am I doing here?"
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« Reply #27026 on: Today at 08:37:51 AM »
If they make war against God, every person of their country is doomed.
But you’re the one who wants to make war against their God (which happens to be the same God of the Jews and Christians).
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« Reply #27027 on: Today at 09:37:38 AM »
They have symbols to lead them, or generals, or priests. Picture this: you are invading a country, and in the middle of a conversation with your general, when his base got bombed. You hear a scream. "General, what are your orders?" But nothing, not even static, is at the other end. If you haven't a lieutenant or acting commander, you will have to quickly decide for yourself what to do. And that decision is usually, "Fuck this, I'm outta here!" Religious fanatics are not like military troops. Their generals are their religious leaders. They give guidelines for them to carry out, and they trust in the teachings. But enough days without a call to worship, and the whole thing collapses. Without the fanatical mood, the follower has time to say "What am I doing here?"
I have literally no idea what you are whittering on about.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27028 on: Today at 10:28:33 AM »
It’s almost as if Bulma doesn’t understand the concept of line of succession or the power of martyrdom.  Sure, let’s give Iran lots of martyrs, nobody is going to want to step up and avenge them. ::)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27029 on: Today at 11:07:51 AM »
It's funny because assassinating the leadership is exactly what the strategy of the US was, and it failed miserably.
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