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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22920 on: July 18, 2024, 06:34:40 AM »
I watched a bit of the convention last night. I wanted to hear Vance's speech, because I really don't know much about him. I flipped around the channels between speeches, and the tone of the coverage has changed quite a bit since Monday. It seemed like the media were using the breaks to campaign against Trump. Even on PBS, which I still hold to a higher standard for some reason. I forgot to check Fox's coverage, but I gave up on them years ago, anyway.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22921 on: July 18, 2024, 06:45:04 AM »
It's an interesting event but it's way too much to watch unfiltered.  The Daily Show were setup to cover it all this week but security has really tightened up so now they can't.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22922 on: July 18, 2024, 07:12:24 AM »
Vance comes across very well. He's not the greatest speech maker, but he was relatable. I think he will appeal to lots of people in ways that Harris can't. I thought including his former drug addicted mom was kind of brilliant. There are many many people who have similar experience now. I think they will make the fentanyl crisis part of their platform, although I don't know what his mom was addicted to. If she got clean 10yrs ago, it probably wasn't fentanyl, but it could have been pain pills.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22923 on: July 18, 2024, 07:39:20 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on July 18, 2024, 03:41:19 AM
What?

Its not complex.

I am a state actor.  I say a thing.  You must then assume the truth is the opposite since I'm a state actor.  That how this works.  I say up, you say down.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22924 on: July 18, 2024, 07:51:18 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 07:12:24 AM
Vance comes across very well. He's not the greatest speech maker, but he was relatable. I think he will appeal to lots of people in ways that Harris can't. I thought including his former drug addicted mom was kind of brilliant. There are many many people who have similar experience now. I think they will make the fentanyl crisis part of their platform, although I don't know what his mom was addicted to. If she got clean 10yrs ago, it probably wasn't fentanyl, but it could have been pain pills.


He comes across....

Fuck that guy.

His speech was so bullshit.


Blames biden for nafta (bush sr) afghanistan (bush jr) covid (trump).

A populist pretender puppet paid for by billionaire theil married to a lawyer who worked under heritage funded scotus.

Trump 2024!

Take your medicine usa.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22925 on: July 18, 2024, 10:40:59 AM »
This is from 2019 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/joe-biden-nafta-2020-1296786  Biden has been criticized for his part in it by Democrats as well.

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“When people take a look at my record versus Vice President Biden’s record, I helped lead the fight against NAFTA; he voted for NAFTA,” he said. “I helped lead the fight against [permanent normal trade relations] with China; he voted for it. I strongly opposed the Trans-Pacific Partnership; he supported it.”

That's a Bernie quote.


Also, Trump is not responsible for COVID! lol
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22926 on: July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM »


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22927 on: July 18, 2024, 11:22:55 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

Probably because this video is incredibly misleading.  These statements they keep cutting to Trump making were well past after the insurrection failed and his followers were just wandering around the senate chamber.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22928 on: July 18, 2024, 11:38:46 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.


are you sarcastic?

this guy's doing such gynmastics he should try out for the olympic team.


words lead to actions
trumps words led jan6.
so either trump doesn't communicate well, or his followers don't listen well.
but the result was the result and it happened or it didn't happen.


if repubs want to hold dems responsible for rhetoric "trump is an existential threat to deomcracy" and teh action is an attempt on his life.


then the sword cuts both ways "pelosi is a stonemason pedofile", "the LGBTXYZ are pedofiles, "clintons are hiding babies in a pizza shop", "shoot coloured peple because deydookdordooorbs and are trying to rape your women", "don't ouchyfauci or i'll 2ndA your ass".




propaganda math doesn't add up in repub's favour

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22929 on: July 18, 2024, 01:08:26 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on July 18, 2024, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

Probably because this video is incredibly misleading.  These statements they keep cutting to Trump making were well past after the insurrection failed and his followers were just wandering around the senate chamber.

You mean when he told them to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard? That was before they left the rally and lost their minds. The rest of it was after. He should have been more involved in getting them to leave, and he should have done it sooner, obviously. The media claimed Trump pushed for an armed insurrection, I don't think he actually did that  --  Orf's thing is pointing out the lies of the media. How they shape the way we look at things. How they try to keep us in a state of anger.

KABOOL, I worry for your mental health.

Anyway, I think we should all strive to not let the media have its way with our brains.  Trump is probably going to win the election.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22930 on: July 18, 2024, 01:48:02 PM »
incorrect

trump arranged for a rally and reached out to organizers > organizers arranged buses and brought the people > trump said something > the people stormed the capitol.


hurray.
context is context.
"with all due respect you're a fucking idiot"
but i said with all due respect!
i'm absolved!
absovle meeeeeee

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22931 on: July 18, 2024, 02:43:10 PM »
Ok, WTF?
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/18/g-s1-11894/hulk-hogan-rnc

I figured the RNC was a show but this is just way too on point.  Hulk Hogan?  The entertainer.  Who has no political voice.  Is speaking because... reasons.  Are they scrapping the bottom of the barrel, or is this just Trump's way of showing that this entire thing is just for show and entertianment?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22932 on: July 18, 2024, 03:01:42 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: Crouton on July 18, 2024, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

Probably because this video is incredibly misleading.  These statements they keep cutting to Trump making were well past after the insurrection failed and his followers were just wandering around the senate chamber.

You mean when he told them to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard? That was before they left the rally and lost their minds. The rest of it was after. He should have been more involved in getting them to leave, and he should have done it sooner, obviously. The media claimed Trump pushed for an armed insurrection, I don't think he actually did that  --  Orf's thing is pointing out the lies of the media. How they shape the way we look at things. How they try to keep us in a state of anger.

KABOOL, I worry for your mental health.

Anyway, I think we should all strive to not let the media have its way with our brains.  Trump is probably going to win the election.

Taking 5 seconds to tell them to peacefully make their voices heard doesn't really excuse the other hour of that speech where he tells them the election has been stolen or the following 3 hours where he ignored calls to do anything while calling anyone in congress who would answer to delay certification as long as possible.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22933 on: July 18, 2024, 03:30:03 PM »
Rednecks like their wrestling.

Trump was on wwe.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22934 on: July 18, 2024, 03:31:19 PM »
Quote from: Themightykabool on July 18, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
incorrect

trump arranged for a rally and reached out to organizers > organizers arranged buses and brought the people > trump said something > the people stormed the capitol.


hurray.
context is context.
"with all due respect you're a fucking idiot"
but i said with all due respect!
i'm absolved!
absovle meeeeeee

Which part is incorrect?

Arranging a rally - not illegal
Arranging transportation to rally - not illegal
Saying something at rally - not illegal
People storming the capitol - illegal lol

What does "context is context" mean?

"with all due respect you're a fucking idiot" - not illegal

I am not the pope, I cannot absolve you.

I won't even wish Canadian healthcare on you.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22935 on: July 18, 2024, 03:40:23 PM »
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2024, 02:43:10 PM
Ok, WTF?
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/18/g-s1-11894/hulk-hogan-rnc

I figured the RNC was a show but this is just way too on point.  Hulk Hogan?  The entertainer.  Who has no political voice.  Is speaking because... reasons.  Are they scrapping the bottom of the barrel, or is this just Trump's way of showing that this entire thing is just for show and entertianment?

Like I've said before, this is the first time I ever paid attention to one of these things, so I had to google it. 2020 doesn't count, because of COVID, but in 2016 both parties were having a blast at their conventions. This one is about the 2016 DNC https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/democratic-national-convention-2016-celebrities-916763/sophia-bush/

Once this election is over, I will probably never follow all this crap again. The conventions are filled with the weirdos! They treat the candidates like celebrities (or the messiah). It's too much for the base, and the base is always kooky.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22936 on: July 18, 2024, 04:10:04 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2024, 02:43:10 PM
Ok, WTF?
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/18/g-s1-11894/hulk-hogan-rnc

I figured the RNC was a show but this is just way too on point.  Hulk Hogan?  The entertainer.  Who has no political voice.  Is speaking because... reasons.  Are they scrapping the bottom of the barrel, or is this just Trump's way of showing that this entire thing is just for show and entertianment?

Like I've said before, this is the first time I ever paid attention to one of these things, so I had to google it. 2020 doesn't count, because of COVID, but in 2016 both parties were having a blast at their conventions. This one is about the 2016 DNC https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/democratic-national-convention-2016-celebrities-916763/sophia-bush/

Once this election is over, I will probably never follow all this crap again. The conventions are filled with the weirdos! They treat the candidates like celebrities (or the messiah). It's too much for the base, and the base is always kooky.

So it's a case of "this has always been like this, you just didn't know.".


Alright then.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22937 on: July 18, 2024, 05:08:58 PM »
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2024, 07:39:20 AM
Quote from: disputeone on July 18, 2024, 03:41:19 AM
What?

Its not complex.

I am a state actor.  I say a thing.  You must then assume the truth is the opposite since I'm a state actor.  That how this works.  I say up, you say down.

Is this the angle you're sticking with?
Only flat eathers are claiming the whole thing is fake.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 01:08:26 PM
KABOOL, I worry for your mental health.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22938 on: July 18, 2024, 05:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

I subscribed.

If they want to blame Trump for January 6th because of his rhetoric, you have to blame Biden and the DNC for the assassination attempt on Trump, because of their rhetoric.

I mean I blame the media.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+threat+to+democracy&t=fpas&ia=web
>I'll handle the threat to democracy, Mr President.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

I wish the media would stop trying to radicalise people, for short term political gain, with absolutely no regard to the future.

You know that quote about children being in charge?

Welp.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22939 on: July 18, 2024, 05:35:00 PM »


Everything is in context, KABOOL.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22940 on: July 18, 2024, 06:22:21 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:40:59 AM
Also, Trump is not responsible for COVID! lol

I think he means Trump is responsible for Operation Warpspeed. Which he was. He was president at the time.

Which was a great success.

Right Kabool?

Right?

Right?

Right?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22941 on: July 18, 2024, 06:33:30 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on July 18, 2024, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

I subscribed.

If they want to blame Trump for January 6th because of his rhetoric, you have to blame Biden and the DNC for the assassination attempt on Trump, because of their rhetoric.

I mean I blame the media.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+threat+to+democracy&t=fpas&ia=web
>I'll handle the threat to democracy, Mr President.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

I wish the media would stop trying to radicalise people, for short term political gain, with absolutely no regard to the future.

You know that quote about children being in charge?

Welp.



Did they say trump needs to die?
Shoot all your enemies?
When you dont get your way its your duty to 2ndA all the way?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22942 on: July 18, 2024, 06:35:16 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on July 18, 2024, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:40:59 AM
Also, Trump is not responsible for COVID! lol

I think he means Trump is responsible for Operation Warpspeed. Which he was. He was president at the time.

Which was a great success.

Right Kabool?

Right?

Right?

Right?



No
In context pos jdvance was blaming everythung on biden.
Except covid happened bwfore biden.
Context is cooconuts.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22943 on: July 18, 2024, 06:42:33 PM »
Quote from: Themightykabool on July 18, 2024, 06:33:30 PM
Did they say trump needs to die?
Shoot all your enemies?
When you dont get your way its your duty to 2ndA all the way?

No.
Did Trump say those things?
Do you believe that he did?

I'm not saying this to be mean, or to pile on. But I am concerned with your mental health.


People insulate themselves in their own little hugboxes online and they lose touch with reality. This radicalises people.

You're right.
Trump should apologise for Operation Warpspeed. It wasn't a great success at all.

I'm going back to my hurtbox.
Ja ne.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22944 on: July 18, 2024, 07:25:30 PM »
Sooo trump didnt tell tue very peaceful proud boys to stand by?
And despite the dangeepusly hyperboyl dems, he didnt try to cooedinate an effort to over turn election?
And tge 2025 project written by the same group who owns over half tge scotus and the running candidate vp doesnt exist?

Nooo you trump defender guys aee super honest and fair and balanced.


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« Reply #22945 on: July 18, 2024, 07:35:44 PM »
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« Reply #22946 on: July 18, 2024, 07:39:49 PM »
I hear trump liked the germans during a certain time period.
Nobody who speaks german could be evil.


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« Reply #22947 on: July 18, 2024, 07:40:49 PM »
You're losing the plot man.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22948 on: July 19, 2024, 03:32:59 AM »
>Tucker is irrelevant! No one takes him seriously

I think every single person in the room stood up to applaud. Theres probably no one more relevant, or taken more seriously. Did Trump even get a reception like that? Idk I just read the transcript of Trumps speech. It wasn't bad tbh.

Courage is a wonderful thing.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #22949 on: July 19, 2024, 04:06:46 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on July 18, 2024, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 18, 2024, 10:52:38 AM


I love this guy.

I wonder why youtube feels the need to post a link to wikipedia under videos about Jan. 6th.

I subscribed.

If they want to blame Trump for January 6th because of his rhetoric, you have to blame Biden and the DNC for the assassination attempt on Trump, because of their rhetoric.

I mean I blame the media.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+threat+to+democracy&t=fpas&ia=web
>I'll handle the threat to democracy, Mr President.

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

I wish the media would stop trying to radicalise people, for short term political gain, with absolutely no regard to the future.

You know that quote about children being in charge?

Welp.
My understanding is they the shooter had a list of politicians.  Trump just happened to be the closest at the time.

As for dems apologizing: I mean, if they talk like Trump where they say the entire institution is corrupt and needs to be stopped, then yeah.

Is there any government group or branch Trump hasn't attacked as corrupt?  Did democrats say how the 2016 election was a fraud and how they have tons of evidence ready for release that'll overturn the results?
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