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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7800 on: March 10, 2018, 07:25:58 AM »
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/377304-abstinence-only-education-making-a-comeback-under-trump

These abstinence only people seem to think their grandmas and grandpas weren't having sex when they were teens. Anyway, I guess Trump needs to keep the evangelicals happy.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7801 on: March 10, 2018, 09:35:22 AM »
Politicians lie about small things all the time. Most politicians take care to tell lies they can get away with because they can't easily be confirmed as a lie by the public. They often use carefully crafted statements to accomplish this.

Trump's comments about the crowd size were not worse in a moral sense, just stupider.

Yes, stupider and less connected to reality. I wasn't trying to make a moral argument.

And now he is claiming to have arranged face-to-face talks with North Korea... maybe... but then the white house claims that denuclearization is still a precondition... sort of... and no one knows WTF to believe. This is the problem with having a President who is disconnected from reality. Does anyone really want Trump in a face-to-face with NK? If patterns hold, he will go off script, make tons of promises and then walk those promises back within a week of the meeting. Someone needs to convince him this is a bad idea. Help us Fox & Friends, you're our only hope...

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7802 on: March 10, 2018, 12:15:20 PM »
but then the white house claims that denuclearization is still a precondition.
Ha!  Like anyone would be talking to them in the first place if they didn't have nukes.

NK will probably make American denuclearization a precondition now.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7803 on: March 10, 2018, 01:37:15 PM »
Politicians lie about small things all the time. Most politicians take care to tell lies they can get away with because they can't easily be confirmed as a lie by the public. They often use carefully crafted statements to accomplish this.

Trump's comments about the crowd size were not worse in a moral sense, just stupider.

Yes, stupider and less connected to reality. I wasn't trying to make a moral argument.

And now he is claiming to have arranged face-to-face talks with North Korea... maybe... but then the white house claims that denuclearization is still a precondition... sort of... and no one knows WTF to believe. This is the problem with having a President who is disconnected from reality. Does anyone really want Trump in a face-to-face with NK? If patterns hold, he will go off script, make tons of promises and then walk those promises back within a week of the meeting. Someone needs to convince him this is a bad idea. Help us Fox & Friends, you're our only hope...

Trump will probably go in all smiles and fall for the charm. He'll say North Korea was really great, great people, strong leader and that (thanks to him) denuclearisation is going to happen.

Trump has many faces. When he's around the chinese leader, they are Americas greatest friends, says the same thing around the Australian leader. Every leader it seems. He certainly seem to fall for the Saudi charm.

Your president is easily manipulated because his huge ego can't deny the diplomatic charms others give. Let's just hope in the talks with Mr Kim, he has a decent bullshit filter.

That said, talking bullshit or not is better than threats of nuclear death from opposite ends of the world. Let it play out and see where it goes

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7804 on: March 10, 2018, 04:37:47 PM »
Your president is easily manipulated because his huge ego can't deny the diplomatic charms others give. Let's just hope in the talks with Mr Kim, he has a decent bullshit filter.

I agree, but I don't hold out much hope. If his bullshit filter can't stop Alex Jones, I don't think it will give NK many problems.

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That said, talking bullshit or not is better than threats of nuclear death from opposite ends of the world. Let it play out and see where it goes

I certainly prefer this to the nuclear dick waving. I just worry that a face-to-face will cause a backslide into nuclear dickwaving, due to the "pattern" that I mentioned earlier. Trump is at his best when there is a healthy buffer of diplomats to... how do I put this nicely... translate and filter what he says. Which is a problem, because we don't even have an ambassador to South Korea.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7805 on: March 10, 2018, 04:39:33 PM »
Politicians lie about small things all the time. Most politicians take care to tell lies they can get away with because they can't easily be confirmed as a lie by the public. They often use carefully crafted statements to accomplish this.

Trump's comments about the crowd size were not worse in a moral sense, just stupider.

Yes, stupider and less connected to reality. I wasn't trying to make a moral argument.

And now he is claiming to have arranged face-to-face talks with North Korea... maybe... but then the white house claims that denuclearization is still a precondition... sort of... and no one knows WTF to believe. This is the problem with having a President who is disconnected from reality. Does anyone really want Trump in a face-to-face with NK? If patterns hold, he will go off script, make tons of promises and then walk those promises back within a week of the meeting. Someone needs to convince him this is a bad idea. Help us Fox & Friends, you're our only hope...

I don't know. What's the worse that could happen? Trump tries to pay Kim's sister 130k for sex?

I kind of like the idea of trump negotiating directly. Trump advertises himself as a master dealmaker. He now owns any failure from it and as far as giving nk prestige, its not like he's a real president anyways.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7806 on: March 10, 2018, 04:47:00 PM »
I don't know. What's the worse that could happen? Trump tries to pay Kim's sister 130k for sex?

Nuclear boom boom. Artillery boom boom.

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I kind of like the idea of trump negotiating directly. Trump advertises himself as a master dealmaker. He now owns any failure from it and as far as giving nk prestige, its not like he's a real president anyways.

Except he clearly isn't a master dealmaker, and the person he is making a deal with has nuclear boom boom. If it only had the potential to blow up in his face, then yeah... godspeed Mr President.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7807 on: March 10, 2018, 04:54:57 PM »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7808 on: March 11, 2018, 02:14:11 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/11/death-penalty-drug-dealers-count-trump/414535002/

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Drug dealers kill people, destroy families and might deserve the death penalty or life in prison for their crimes, President Trump says.

Trump, speaking at a rally Saturday in Pennsylvania for congressional candidate Rick Saccone, said he got the idea from the leaders of China and Singapore. The U.S. criminal justice system, Trump said, is too soft on drugs.

“You kill 5,000 people with drugs because you’re smuggling them in and you are making a lot of money and people are dying. And they don’t even put you in jail,” Trump said. “That’s why we have a problem, folks. I don’t think we should play games.”

Trump said he recently asked the president of Singapore if that country has a drug problem.

"He said 'We have a zero tolerance policy. That means if we catch a drug dealer, death penalty,'" Trump said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/11/health/prescription-opioid-payments-eprise/index.html

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(CNN) As tens of thousands of Americans die from prescription opioid overdoses each year, an exclusive analysis by CNN and researchers at Harvard University found that opioid manufacturers are paying physicians huge sums of money -- and the more opioids a doctor prescribes, the more money he or she makes.
In 2014 and 2015, opioid manufacturers paid hundreds of doctors across the country six-figure sums for speaking, consulting and other services. Thousands of other doctors were paid over $25,000 during that time.
Physicians who prescribed particularly large amounts of the drugs were the most likely to get paid.

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7809 on: March 11, 2018, 02:40:48 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/11/death-penalty-drug-dealers-count-trump/414535002/

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Drug dealers kill people, destroy families and might deserve the death penalty or life in prison for their crimes, President Trump says.

Trump, speaking at a rally Saturday in Pennsylvania for congressional candidate Rick Saccone, said he got the idea from the leaders of China and Singapore. The U.S. criminal justice system, Trump said, is too soft on drugs.

“You kill 5,000 people with drugs because you’re smuggling them in and you are making a lot of money and people are dying. And they don’t even put you in jail,” Trump said. “That’s why we have a problem, folks. I don’t think we should play games.”

Trump said he recently asked the president of Singapore if that country has a drug problem.

"He said 'We have a zero tolerance policy. That means if we catch a drug dealer, death penalty,'" Trump said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/11/health/prescription-opioid-payments-eprise/index.html

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(CNN) As tens of thousands of Americans die from prescription opioid overdoses each year, an exclusive analysis by CNN and researchers at Harvard University found that opioid manufacturers are paying physicians huge sums of money -- and the more opioids a doctor prescribes, the more money he or she makes.
In 2014 and 2015, opioid manufacturers paid hundreds of doctors across the country six-figure sums for speaking, consulting and other services. Thousands of other doctors were paid over $25,000 during that time.
Physicians who prescribed particularly large amounts of the drugs were the most likely to get paid.

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

It's interesting. Both actions are problematic. One group is acting outside the law. The other group is acting within a loophole of the law, but outside the spirit of the law.

There is already legal recourse to address the first group (though perhaps insufficient), but no legal recourse to address the second. Despite this, the focus of modifying legal recourse is on the first group but not the second.

Edit: I should add that this is fucking stupid, as usual. Please no Duterte.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7810 on: March 11, 2018, 02:46:32 PM »

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

I assume whoever falls below the minimum threshold of lobbying power.

I see Trump is in Pennsylvania campaigning.  Let's hope he can work the same magic he did in Alabama a few months ago and flip another deeply red district.  Should be an interesting Tuesday.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7811 on: March 11, 2018, 04:37:47 PM »

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

I assume whoever falls below the minimum threshold of lobbying power.

I see Trump is in Pennsylvania campaigning.  Let's hope he can work the same magic he did in Alabama a few months ago and flip another deeply red district.  Should be an interesting Tuesday.

The Trump rallies are weird,  he says crazy stuff and they all cheer,   are they really just as crazy as him, or are they just out for a bit of entertainment and a good time?

Trump the showman and con artist,  I can see him selling "Trump Elixir"  guaranteed cures what all ails ya.  Roll up roll up jest a dollar per bottle.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7812 on: March 11, 2018, 06:32:32 PM »
How did I only just now find out about President Dennison? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dennison
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7813 on: March 11, 2018, 07:27:48 PM »
How did I only just now find out about President Dennison? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dennison

I reckon I could make a killing with lawn signs saying "David Dennison for President"   "Keep America Classy"

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7814 on: March 11, 2018, 11:27:10 PM »
The Trump rallies are weird,  he says crazy stuff and they all cheer,   are they really just as crazy as him, or are they just out for a bit of entertainment and a good time?
I think there are 2 factors:
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2) mass psychology
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7815 on: March 11, 2018, 11:31:43 PM »

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

I assume whoever falls below the minimum threshold of lobbying power.

I see Trump is in Pennsylvania campaigning.  Let's hope he can work the same magic he did in Alabama a few months ago and flip another deeply red district.  Should be an interesting Tuesday.

The Trump rallies are weird,  he says crazy stuff and they all cheer,   are they really just as crazy as him, or are they just out for a bit of entertainment and a good time?

Trump the showman and con artist,  I can see him selling "Trump Elixir"  guaranteed cures what all ails ya.  Roll up roll up jest a dollar per bottle.

I've never been to any politician's rally.  I don't know anyone who has either.  These guys might not be representative of Trump's average supporter.

I hope.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7816 on: March 12, 2018, 06:08:14 AM »

But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

I assume whoever falls below the minimum threshold of lobbying power.

I see Trump is in Pennsylvania campaigning.  Let's hope he can work the same magic he did in Alabama a few months ago and flip another deeply red district.  Should be an interesting Tuesday.

The Trump rallies are weird,  he says crazy stuff and they all cheer,   are they really just as crazy as him, or are they just out for a bit of entertainment and a good time?

Trump the showman and con artist,  I can see him selling "Trump Elixir"  guaranteed cures what all ails ya.  Roll up roll up jest a dollar per bottle.

I've never been to any politician's rally.  I don't know anyone who has either.  These guys might not be representative of Trump's average supporter.

I hope.

I was in Phoenix when Gary Hart was campaigning way back when,  and went along just to see what it was all about,  and everyone was going nuts, it was infectious, and I can understand how people get carried away in the moment.   

He got later dumped as a candidate after he got outed as having an affair from what I can remember,  seems ironic looking back and comparing the standards then to what Trump is doing.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7817 on: March 12, 2018, 03:07:47 PM »


What happens when an untrollable force encounter an unshameable wall?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7818 on: March 12, 2018, 03:20:02 PM »


What happens when an untrollable force encounter an unshameable wall?


Media has a multiple orgasm.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7819 on: March 12, 2018, 03:24:28 PM »


What happens when an untrollable force encounter an unshameable wall?

Must See TV!


Edit: so, what Bullwinkle said basically

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7820 on: March 12, 2018, 03:26:23 PM »
I was tired of it before the media jizzed all over itself.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7821 on: March 12, 2018, 03:30:24 PM »
By itself it's not even that interesting.  I just don't care if politicians cheat on their wives.  But the fact that she just keeps at it, obviously doing it just for the publicity, this is so surreal in a meta sort of way.

It's like if Trump had a porn star alter ego and it came to life and suddenly started attacking him.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7822 on: March 12, 2018, 03:32:09 PM »
I hadn't even thought of that. lol
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7823 on: March 12, 2018, 05:55:18 PM »
I hadn't even thought of that. lol

There's something wrong when it becomes a legitimate thought to imagine the President of the United States has an porn star alter ego who battles it out with him in the media. 

And, it's not a qanon conspiracy, it's real.

David Dennison 2020
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7824 on: March 12, 2018, 07:20:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/973360355790479361
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Donald J. Trump
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THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

ALL CAPS!!! Actually Mr President, only the GOP members of the House Intelligence Committee found no evidence of collusion.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7825 on: March 12, 2018, 07:26:27 PM »
So it's settled then? Can we move on from this Russia collusion/hacking crap and focus on real and important things?


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« Reply #7826 on: March 12, 2018, 07:30:40 PM »
So it's settled then? Can we move on from this Russia collusion/hacking crap and focus on real and important things?

LOL.  That's not what it means,  it's just the Republicans running scared of what's coming next.  Try to keep up. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7827 on: March 12, 2018, 07:31:41 PM »
But which drug dealers do you think would actually get the death penalty?

Who owns big pharma?
Any coincidences there?
Why do these people also own big oil?
Why do these same people own the media?
How much of the worlds economy do these people really control?
Why do they all hate Trump?
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7828 on: March 12, 2018, 07:32:36 PM »
So it's settled then? Can we move on from this Russia collusion/hacking crap and focus on real and important things?
running scared of what's coming next.  Try to keep up.

>Trump will be impeached any day now, it's just around the corner.

Two years later......
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7829 on: March 12, 2018, 07:41:03 PM »
So it's settled then? Can we move on from this Russia collusion/hacking crap and focus on real and important things?

What would you like to discuss?
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