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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7710 on: March 04, 2018, 09:16:34 PM »
You seem to have a personal stake in this Rayzor. What do you care so much about it? Your supposed to be in Oz. So why so engrossed in the bowels of dirty American politics? Or are you not who you say you are?  ???

Probably the same reason everyone else in the world is concerned about having an unstable lunatic in the White house.

Not everyone, just your libtard friends that's all.

What do you think happens to the Australian economy if Trump starts a trade war with China? 

Stop it with with the libtard crap.  It makes you look stupid and ignorant.

My guess is the shit wouldn't be half as bad if the media didn't conflate the issues and spook the public.

Not really,  Trump thinks a trade is a zero sum game,  fundamentally he fails to understand how trade works.   That's a problem for everyone.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7711 on: March 04, 2018, 09:34:10 PM »
It's not just about Trump that the media blows up. If the media talks about another GFC or recession looming for long enough, it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. I'm sure a lot of libs in the media would love to see that happen under Trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7712 on: March 04, 2018, 10:49:51 PM »
It's not just about Trump that the media blows up. If the media talks about another GFC or recession looming for long enough, it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. I'm sure a lot of libs in the media would love to see that happen under Trump

The media didn't cause the GFC.

But any fall out from an illogical and unnecessary trade war,  is squarely on Trump's shoulders.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7713 on: March 05, 2018, 02:25:36 PM »


Well this is an interesting new defense for not complying with a subpoena, doesn't want to spend a week hunting for emails.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7714 on: March 05, 2018, 02:52:14 PM »


Well this is an interesting new defense for not complying with a subpoena, doesn't want to spend a week hunting for emails.

Just delete all the emails. Problem solved

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7715 on: March 05, 2018, 03:41:39 PM »


Well this is an interesting new defense for not complying with a subpoena, doesn't want to spend a week hunting for emails.

Just delete all the emails. Problem solved

I don't think pissing off a Grand Jury is going to be a good defense.   Isn't it a crime to disclose any information about what questions a Grand Jury asks for,  just mentioning that he's been asked for emails from Bannon and Stone is probably cause for a contempt charge whether he actually supplies them or not.

I think he needs to talk to a lawyer.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7716 on: March 05, 2018, 03:43:12 PM »


Well this is an interesting new defense for not complying with a subpoena, doesn't want to spend a week hunting for emails.

Just delete all the emails. Problem solved

I don't think pissing off a Grand Jury is going to be a good defense.   Isn't it a crime to disclose any information about what questions a Grand Jury asks for,  just mentioning that he's been asked for emails from Bannon and Stone is probably cause for a contempt charge whether he actually supplies them or not.

I think he needs to talk to a lawyer.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7717 on: March 05, 2018, 03:46:41 PM »


Well this is an interesting new defense for not complying with a subpoena, doesn't want to spend a week hunting for emails.

Just delete all the emails. Problem solved

I don't think pissing off a Grand Jury is going to be a good defense.   Isn't it a crime to disclose any information about what questions a Grand Jury asks for,  just mentioning that he's been asked for emails from Bannon and Stone is probably cause for a contempt charge whether he actually supplies them or not.

I think he needs to talk to a lawyer.

This is really weird.  He's appearing on every media outlet possible practically begging to be held in contempt of court.

Yes, he can absolutely be thrown in jail for this.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_McDougal


Worked for Clinton

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7718 on: March 05, 2018, 04:14:08 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7719 on: March 05, 2018, 04:28:11 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.


HRC did not delete her email. She hired someone else to delete her email.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7720 on: March 05, 2018, 04:35:50 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.

I have never defended that.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7721 on: March 05, 2018, 06:27:00 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.

I have never defended that.

email or pant suits?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7722 on: March 05, 2018, 06:36:59 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.

I have never defended that.

email or pant suits?

Not the emails. Definitely not the pantsuits. I have to say women have a distinct disadvantage with clothes in politics. There's just no substitute for a suit.



Okay a few centuries ago they might have had better options but if Hillary showed up to a debate in that then she'd just look like a lunatic.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7723 on: March 05, 2018, 06:44:26 PM »
There is no lunacy in embracing ones feminism (if your a woman that is).

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7724 on: March 05, 2018, 06:49:10 PM »

Worked for Clinton

Still can't stop thinking of Hillary?  Is it the pantsuit that does it for you?

No, just pointing out the hypocrisy that it was OK for Clinton to delete subpoenaed emails but shit hitting the fan that Trump couldn't be bothered going through his undeleted ones

And yes those pant suits are hideous.

I have never defended that.

email or pant suits?

Not the emails. Definitely not the pantsuits. I have to say women have a distinct disadvantage with clothes in politics. There's just no substitute for a suit.



Okay a few centuries ago they might have had better options but if Hillary showed up to a debate in that then she'd just look like a lunatic.

The clothes don't make the lunatic.






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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7725 on: March 05, 2018, 07:47:56 PM »
Note sure if this was posted here before, but I'm too lazy to go back among the hundreds of replies to look.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/19/opinion/how-does-trump-stack-up-against-the-best-and-worst-presidents.html

Out of 44 presidents, Trump ranked dead last in a 2018 poll of political scientists (if you're wondering why it's 44 and not 45, Grover Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th, the only president to run two non-consecutive terms, so they're usually grouped together). Even among republicans, who made up the minority of the poll, he was placed at 40th. Obama had a 10-place increase and went from 18th place to 8th. Even the Republicans put him at 16th, and independents at 12th (dems at 6th).

Lincoln, of course, takes the #1 spot, followed by Washington and FDR.

Just thought it was funny. The current president was ranked last just 1 year into office.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7726 on: March 05, 2018, 08:05:28 PM »

Just thought it was funny. The current president was ranked last just 1 year into office.

Proves pre determined bias. Not even giving the bloke a chance to do much. The dems are doing their best to make him a 'lame duck' unable to do shit in any event. So the guy (for example which is probably one of the reasons they rank him last) thinks that 'Paris' agreement was a con and wouldn't do anything meaningful. He is not the only one

That ranking has nothing to do with science and only how left leaning you are.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7727 on: March 05, 2018, 08:36:39 PM »
Seriously? 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russia-blocked-trump-from-picking-romney-for-secretary-of-state-report-republicans-fear-midterm-backlash-from-tariffs-2018-03-05

Putin blocked Mitt Romney,  from becoming  Secretary of State?   

When does this become Treason?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7728 on: March 05, 2018, 08:55:57 PM »
Proves pre determined bias. Not even giving the bloke a chance to do much.

You have to be joking, right?

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The dems are doing their best to make him a 'lame duck' unable to do shit in any event.

oh my god you're not joking.

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thinks that 'Paris' agreement was a con and wouldn't do anything meaningful.

wtf

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That ranking has nothing to do with science and only how left leaning you are.

WTFF
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7729 on: March 05, 2018, 08:56:37 PM »

Lincoln, of course, takes the #1 spot, followed by Washington and FDR.



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7730 on: March 05, 2018, 08:57:03 PM »
Seriously? 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russia-blocked-trump-from-picking-romney-for-secretary-of-state-report-republicans-fear-midterm-backlash-from-tariffs-2018-03-05

Putin blocked Mitt Romney,  from becoming  Secretary of State?   

When does this become Treason?

Russia owns the US now. Therefore not treason. Don't forget to check under your bed and in your closets for any Russians

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7731 on: March 05, 2018, 09:03:38 PM »
Proves pre determined bias. Not even giving the bloke a chance to do much.

You have to be joking, right?

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The dems are doing their best to make him a 'lame duck' unable to do shit in any event.

oh my god you're not joking.

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thinks that 'Paris' agreement was a con and wouldn't do anything meaningful.

wtf

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That ranking has nothing to do with science and only how left leaning you are.

WTFF

Allow me to introduce you to shifter.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7732 on: March 05, 2018, 09:10:21 PM »
Allow me to introduce you to shifter.

I think he introduced himself already.  :)    Of course he's totally unbiased and objective.   

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7733 on: March 05, 2018, 09:19:08 PM »

Lincoln, of course, takes the #1 spot, followed by Washington and FDR.



Not in situ.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7734 on: March 05, 2018, 09:19:47 PM »
Of course he's totally unbiased and objective.

Probably the most unbiased person on the forum
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7735 on: March 05, 2018, 09:24:23 PM »

Lincoln, of course, takes the #1 spot, followed by Washington and FDR.



Not in situ.

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Lincoln was disliked by about half the country during his Presidency.
You know, the half that was at war with the other half.

Washington and FDR had some detractors as well.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7736 on: March 06, 2018, 07:19:56 AM »

Lincoln, of course, takes the #1 spot, followed by Washington and FDR.



Not in situ.

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Lincoln was disliked by about half the country during his Presidency.
You know, the half that was at war with the other half.

Washington and FDR had some detractors as well.

Well duh, but he still was the greatest (or top 3 at least) because of his ability to end the war, end slavery, and bring the Union together, even though so many were against him.

But no president is free of hate. No one can get 100% of support.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7737 on: March 06, 2018, 08:12:58 AM »
While it's comical to look at that and laugh because 45 is the last on the list, it isn't really fair to compare him to the rest as his presidency is still ongoing.  He can be compared to recent presidents one year into their terms though. I know I'd personally place him behind all recent presidents at the 1 year point, but that's my opinion and not fact.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7738 on: March 06, 2018, 04:24:27 PM »
Quote from: Donald Trump
I think that their statement and the statements coming out of the South Korea and North Korea has been very positive”

“That would be a great thing for the world. We will see how it all comes about. I thought that North Korea were terrific. They went into the Olympics and went in with good spirit. They did well. Let’s see if we can carry it over.”


Contrast this to the cold shoulder and cries from the usual politicians in America who called North Koreas play in the Olympics nothing but a "charm offensive"

I don't care if North Korea is faking it. Talking is always better than a war. A war America has been goading for and wanting for a long time. America needs to suck up its ego, withdraw and not give the North Koreans any reason to have the damn nukes in the first place.

The simple fact is Americas typical establishment does not want peace on the Korean peninsula. They would lose their relevance to have tens of thousands of troops on the border. Honestly, if I were the president of South Korea, I would tell America to piss off. Their tactics and their troops stationed there haven't ended the war (they are technically still in) for nearly 70 years. It is impossible to reunify or for the North to consider serious friendship or a formal end to hostilities with them around and that is Americas plan and reason for being there.

If Trump can tone his dumb jokes and stupid blustering on this, and not being the 'usual' politician, maybe we could see progress. He has the opportunity, more so than any other President has. Whether or not he takes advantage of it, is up to him

I still think little Rocket Man is a dick though.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7739 on: March 06, 2018, 05:42:21 PM »
While it's comical to look at that and laugh because 45 is the last on the list, it isn't really fair to compare him to the rest as his presidency is still ongoing.  He can be compared to recent presidents one year into their terms though. I know I'd personally place him behind all recent presidents at the 1 year point, but that's my opinion and not fact.

But Obama had the same thing done to him and he still scored top 15. Check the wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#Scholar_survey_results

2010: ranked 15
2015: ranked 18
2017: ranked 12
2018: ranked 8

for some reason he wasn't in the 2011 rank on the wiki, but the source of the 2011 poll said he was held with high esteem, and would've made 8th place had he been included in the poll. It was the highest of any post WWII president, except Truman, who was 7th.
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