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I'll play.

Every single image of Earth in Apollo photographs, 16mm video and live TV broadcasts can be verified as showing exactly what should be there in terms of the position of the terminator, the landmasses and oceans on view, and the unique meteorological fingerprint of that day's weather as shown in weather satellite images.

Prove they don't.

Photographs, 16mm footage and live TV broadcasts from Apollo show details of rocks and craters that were not known about prior to the missions. These details have been confirmed by later probes. The hardware and human activity around that hardware has been imaged from lunar orbit not just by US probes but also by probes from India and Japan, and those photographs confirm details shown in Apollo images.

Prove otherwise.

no one wish to comment on the US / SOVIET space bromance ?

Quote from: feuk on January 31, 2016, 12:05:18 PM

http://www.nasa.gov/50th/50th_magazine/coldWarCoOp.html

Even the official history and players make interesting reading.
       Roald Z Sagdeev former Soviet space scientist along with wife Susan Eisenhower ( president Eisenhowers grangdaughter) explain.

 Despite the continued space competition between the United States and U.S.S.R., Khrushchev sent Kennedy a letter raising the possibility of space cooperation on a modest level after John Glenn became the first American to orbit Earth on Feb. 20, 1962. That led to two rounds of discussions between NASA’s Deputy Administrator Hugh Dryden and Soviet academician Blagonravov. An agreement led to the opening of cooperation in three areas: 1) the exchange of weather data from satellites and the eventual coordinated launching of meteorological satellites; 2) a joint effort to map the geomagnetic field of Earth; and 3) cooperation in the experimental relay of communications. This link became a primary forum for subsequent U.S.-U.S.S.R. interaction on space.

 In the early 1970s, the Nixon administration sought to reduce U.S.-Soviet tensions, and launched a major effort to reach a strategic arms limitation breakthrough, as well as new cooperation in space. In 1970, during a meeting with Keldysh, U.S. Academy of Sciences President Philip Handler mentioned an American movie starring Gregory Peck and Gene Hackman called Marooned, in which Soviet cosmonauts helped rescue three U.S. astronauts stranded in Earth orbit. Handler suggested the United States and U.S.S.R. develop a mutually com-patible docking system that would make possible such rescues, as well as non-emergency space dock-ings. This imaginary movie scenario touched a chord within space communities on both sides, which already had experienced emergency situations in real life. Talks led to the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project docking mission of 1975, which developed compatible rendezvous and docking systems still in use today, and the establishment of a few topical working groups in different space science and applications disciplines.
 
          " You know,” I responded, “we have a silent gentleman’s agreement to share responsibilities in space". 

the article and it's authors whilst obviously maintaining the cold war narrative give the impression space was the basis for a continental bromance,                           

Silent gentlemens agreements sound strange, don't they ?


   

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 28, 2016, 11:15:11 AM

I'll play.

Every single image of Earth in Apollo photographs, 16mm video and live TV broadcasts can be verified as showing exactly what should be there in terms of the position of the terminator, the landmasses and oceans on view, and the unique meteorological fingerprint of that day's weather as shown in weather satellite images.

Prove they don't.

I would need to see both comparable images first, something that is proving quite difficult. maybe you could share ?

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Photographs, 16mm footage and live TV broadcasts from Apollo show details of rocks and craters that were not known about prior to the missions. These details have been confirmed by later probes. The hardware and human activity around that hardware has been imaged from lunar orbit not just by US probes but also by probes from India and Japan, and those photographs confirm details shown in Apollo images.

Prove otherwise.

got any images from India or Japan that you feel like sharing so the interested reader can compare the "details of rocks and craters" that confirm a manned moon landing by NASA ?

          " You know,” I responded, “we have a silent gentleman’s agreement to share responsibilities in space". 
 hmmmmmm,
the "cold war" with competing countries at each others throats is a myth.

Quote from: feuk on February 03, 2016, 03:31:15 PM

no one wish to comment on the US / SOVIET space bromance ?

Quote from: feuk on January 31, 2016, 12:05:18 PM

http://www.nasa.gov/50th/50th_magazine/coldWarCoOp.html

Even the official history and players make interesting reading.
       Roald Z Sagdeev former Soviet space scientist along with wife Susan Eisenhower ( president Eisenhowers grangdaughter) explain.

 Despite the continued space competition between the United States and U.S.S.R., Khrushchev sent Kennedy a letter raising the possibility of space cooperation on a modest level after John Glenn became the first American to orbit Earth on Feb. 20, 1962. That led to two rounds of discussions between NASA’s Deputy Administrator Hugh Dryden and Soviet academician Blagonravov. An agreement led to the opening of cooperation in three areas: 1) the exchange of weather data from satellites and the eventual coordinated launching of meteorological satellites; 2) a joint effort to map the geomagnetic field of Earth; and 3) cooperation in the experimental relay of communications. This link became a primary forum for subsequent U.S.-U.S.S.R. interaction on space.

 In the early 1970s, the Nixon administration sought to reduce U.S.-Soviet tensions, and launched a major effort to reach a strategic arms limitation breakthrough, as well as new cooperation in space. In 1970, during a meeting with Keldysh, U.S. Academy of Sciences President Philip Handler mentioned an American movie starring Gregory Peck and Gene Hackman called Marooned, in which Soviet cosmonauts helped rescue three U.S. astronauts stranded in Earth orbit. Handler suggested the United States and U.S.S.R. develop a mutually com-patible docking system that would make possible such rescues, as well as non-emergency space dock-ings. This imaginary movie scenario touched a chord within space communities on both sides, which already had experienced emergency situations in real life. Talks led to the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project docking mission of 1975, which developed compatible rendezvous and docking systems still in use today, and the establishment of a few topical working groups in different space science and applications disciplines.
 
          " You know,” I responded, “we have a silent gentleman’s agreement to share responsibilities in space". 

the article and it's authors whilst obviously maintaining the cold war narrative give the impression space was the basis for a continental bromance,                           

Silent gentlemens agreements sound strange, don't they ?

I'll play.

Every single image of Earth in Apollo photographs, 16mm video and live TV broadcasts can be verified as showing exactly what should be there in terms of the position of the terminator, the landmasses and oceans on view, and the unique meteorological fingerprint of that day's weather as shown in weather satellite images.

The weather satellite data is pretty easy to find online - I managed it. I also have hard copies of some of it in books available in print at the time. You can look at all of my stuff here:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/catmall.html

If you want to crystallise it into a simple case you can look at Hurricane Bernice's appearance in Apollo 11's photographs and TV broadcasts - I have a dated original press photo showing it:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/ch4/a11/ch4_3_1a.html

or you could look at the weather imagery in Apollo 8's Earthrise - one of the images for which I have the original book of weather satellite data:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/earthrise/earthrise.html

Photographs, 16mm footage and live TV broadcasts from Apollo show details of rocks and craters that were not known about prior to the missions. These details have been confirmed by later probes. The hardware and human activity around that hardware has been imaged from lunar orbit not just by US probes but also by probes from India and Japan, and those photographs confirm details shown in Apollo images.

Prove otherwise.

Again, I'm not just making this **** up, I've spent more time poring over lunar images than I care to remember. Here's teh general stuff:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/sights/landings.html

India covers Apollo 14-16 and Japan also covers Apollo 15.

Quote from: feuk on August 29, 2016, 01:15:17 AM

          " You know,” I responded, “we have a silent gentleman’s agreement to share responsibilities in space". 
 hmmmmmm,
the "cold war" with competing countries at each others throats is a myth.

Quote from: feuk on February 03, 2016, 03:31:15 PM

no one wish to comment on the US / SOVIET space bromance ?

Quote from: feuk on January 31, 2016, 12:05:18 PM

http://www.nasa.gov/50th/50th_magazine/coldWarCoOp.html

Even the official history and players make interesting reading.
       Roald Z Sagdeev former Soviet space scientist along with wife Susan Eisenhower ( president Eisenhowers grangdaughter) explain.

 Despite the continued space competition between the United States and U.S.S.R., Khrushchev sent Kennedy a letter raising the possibility of space cooperation on a modest level after John Glenn became the first American to orbit Earth on Feb. 20, 1962. That led to two rounds of discussions between NASA’s Deputy Administrator Hugh Dryden and Soviet academician Blagonravov. An agreement led to the opening of cooperation in three areas: 1) the exchange of weather data from satellites and the eventual coordinated launching of meteorological satellites; 2) a joint effort to map the geomagnetic field of Earth; and 3) cooperation in the experimental relay of communications. This link became a primary forum for subsequent U.S.-U.S.S.R. interaction on space.

 In the early 1970s, the Nixon administration sought to reduce U.S.-Soviet tensions, and launched a major effort to reach a strategic arms limitation breakthrough, as well as new cooperation in space. In 1970, during a meeting with Keldysh, U.S. Academy of Sciences President Philip Handler mentioned an American movie starring Gregory Peck and Gene Hackman called Marooned, in which Soviet cosmonauts helped rescue three U.S. astronauts stranded in Earth orbit. Handler suggested the United States and U.S.S.R. develop a mutually com-patible docking system that would make possible such rescues, as well as non-emergency space dock-ings. This imaginary movie scenario touched a chord within space communities on both sides, which already had experienced emergency situations in real life. Talks led to the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project docking mission of 1975, which developed compatible rendezvous and docking systems still in use today, and the establishment of a few topical working groups in different space science and applications disciplines.
 
          " You know,” I responded, “we have a silent gentleman’s agreement to share responsibilities in space". 

the article and it's authors whilst obviously maintaining the cold war narrative give the impression space was the basis for a continental bromance,                           

Silent gentlemens agreements sound strange, don't they ?

How terrible to co-operate in such a hostile environment!

I see you like to quote you most authoritative source  feuk .

You have of course answered all the analyses of photos, etc, given in Moon Base Clavius?

You were around when Sputnik I was launched? I was, and no-one then doubted that those "beeps" radio "hams" picked up on 20.005 MHz was genuine. Maybe you can explain how that signal managed to come in right on time right around the world?

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 29, 2016, 01:52:26 AM

I'll play.

Every single image of Earth in Apollo photographs, 16mm video and live TV broadcasts can be verified as showing exactly what should be there in terms of the position of the terminator, the landmasses and oceans on view, and the unique meteorological fingerprint of that day's weather as shown in weather satellite images.

The weather satellite data is pretty easy to find online - I managed it. I also have hard copies of some of it in books available in print at the time. You can look at all of my stuff here:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/catmall.html

If you want to crystallise it into a simple case you can look at Hurricane Bernice's appearance in Apollo 11's photographs and TV broadcasts - I have a dated original press photo showing it:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/ch4/a11/ch4_3_1a.html

or you could look at the weather imagery in Apollo 8's Earthrise - one of the images for which I have the original book of weather satellite data:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/earthrise/earthrise.html

Photographs, 16mm footage and live TV broadcasts from Apollo show details of rocks and craters that were not known about prior to the missions. These details have been confirmed by later probes. The hardware and human activity around that hardware has been imaged from lunar orbit not just by US probes but also by probes from India and Japan, and those photographs confirm details shown in Apollo images.

Prove otherwise.

Again, I'm not just making this **** up, I've spent more time poring over lunar images than I care to remember. Here's teh general stuff:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/sights/landings.html

India covers Apollo 14-16 and Japan also covers Apollo 15.

Google moon ?
The request was for the Indian and Japanese images that corroborate the details from the excursion images.

Also your weather evidence is a real stretch and a good imagination is needed.

How many hurricanes pass through that corridor a year ?

Do hurricanes' look similar in structure ?

Do weather patterns show a consistency of formation ?
YES

Those sketchy satellite images could be matched to any earth image taken any year since.

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/ch4/a11/wpimages/wpe75759bc_05_06.jpg

Come on man, that's just ridiculous 

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/ch4/a11/wpimages/wp994226c7_05_06.jpg

 

Don't take this the wrong way but composites of weather patterns on earth do not require men walking on the moon.

Quote from: Round and Proud on March 31, 2016, 03:38:12 PM

Why I know the moon landings are real; Every single attempt to prove them a hoax has been completely and without question, debunked beyond any and all reasonable doubt.

If you really believe you have ironclad proof it was a hoax, find a lawyer and file a civil case.

 
"beyond any and all reasonable doubt"
 

I'm all ears.



Any newbies who feel like they could pick up the baton ?
The old guard up thread made a bit of a pigs ear of it.

I await with interest.

Quote from: sceptimatic on August 28, 2016, 11:52:47 AM

It's been proved beyond any doubt that the moon landing shenanigans were just impossible to pull off even if the moon was a real satellite.
The fact that some people don't want to believe it was a hoax does not change the fact that it was.

People DO accomplish impossible things.

It was "proved beyond any doubt" that if man or animal travels faster than 60 miles per hour,
the air pressure on lungs will suffocate them.

Or was it 60?
Maybe it was less?

Some old crazy beliefs.

Denpressure thinks you're a bitch.

Except for the part where we were supposedly bouncing lasers off the moon almost a decade before the first supposed moon landing.  Think about what you say before you say it.

Quote from: jroa on August 31, 2016, 08:21:18 AM

Except for the part where we were supposedly bouncing lasers off the moon almost a decade before the first supposed moon landing.  Think about what you say before you say it.

Source?

The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length.[2]

So, it is more economical to launch people into space and set up retroreflectors on the moon than to have a slightly more powerful laser?  Do you think we are all idiots?

Using less power is not more economical?  What have you been smoking today?

Using less power is not more economical?  What have you been smoking today?

He did say, "less power."  Now, he is saying it is not more economical to use less power.  You people should really work on your consistency.

So, it is more economical to launch people into space and set up retroreflectors on the moon than to have a slightly more powerful laser?  Do you think we are all idiots? 

So, is it or is it not more economical to use less power?

I am wondering what the defense is for you claiming that it is more economical to send space men to the moon than to turn the power up a little on a laser.  Please, enlighten us.