Another mass shooting...

No! Just no okay.

No! Just no okay.

Nick whoever and a rando ex-military protester who has upset his former buddies somehow (cursory look up), is not interesting or pertinent to either me or mass shooting. I know you have to continually obfuscate and chase increasingly minor rabbits down tortuous and tight passages to forge links between things you hate to bolster your fragile ego, I get it you are lonely and not quite all there.

How about you cease throwing your mental chaff into the breeze in an attempt at portraying some gnomic wisdom and state your position clearly.

edit; still not angry.

Quote from: Lorddave on September 16, 2025, 10:06:38 PM

Apologies for the triple post.

But yeah, you just fell for the classic video manipulation.

I've been through this with action80 over in the Trump thread.  Long story short: cops were seen holding the door CLOSED while they tried to get in.  Then they got overwhelmed from both sides (protesters were already inside) and basically chose to stand aside to not die.

But you won't bother seeing the inside video, will you?


The second video is a completely different location.  Wisconsin state capitol, I believe.  On a totally different day and year.  But you're too bias to see that the area isn't DC, that's not the capitol building, and those guys aren't DC cops.

You are correct that I was mistaken about the second video, thank you for correcting me.

On the first video, what you say is reasonable. You seem to be sure of the facts here. At this time I do not question that you are correct that protesters were already inside at this point, through a different entrance I assume. There are cameras everywhere in our existence. Can you provide the video that shows when the FIRST prot. enters the building in the timeline?

On the third video, which is replicated here:



There is no record that this individual, whom Grok fails to identify, was ever interviewed by the jan.6 committee for this apparently odd behavior. What is going on there?

Whats going on in the 3rdvideo?
Are you serious?
No
Youre not becausw youre a moron.


Get to the point already.

I think he has a disability. It's not his fault I'm sure he's a nice enough guy offline. Eventually you start to learn to decipher what hes saying.

Quote from: Lorddave on September 17, 2025, 01:47:00 AM

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5536.msg291823#msg291823
That has alot of my stuff.  There's some in the page before too.

The link to videos only go to the archive as a whole (because that's how they made it).  I did put the video name under the link so you can find it.

I'm sorry, I cannot accept that because it goes against forum etiquette. Please post what you think is important. But thanks anyway.

I gotta say, that's damning evidence.  It made me start to question.  I mean, police in the background, police in the hallway... its pretty convincing.  I can understand why you'd cling to that as evidence.

But I thought to myself... that's odd isn't it?  Why would they have FBI posing as MAGA to break windows so people can get in, cops handcuffing people so they can escort them inside, AND police opening doors so people can come inside.  That didn't make any sense, especially when they only needed the FBI agents.


So I decided to look at it from another angle.

Oh look, found one.
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
0126USCS01UpperWestTerrace_2021-01-06_14h30min01s820ms_1.mp4

Quote from: Torve on September 17, 2025, 01:50:17 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 17, 2025, 01:47:00 AM

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5536.msg291823#msg291823
That has alot of my stuff.  There's some in the page before too.

The link to videos only go to the archive as a whole (because that's how they made it).  I did put the video name under the link so you can find it.

I'm sorry, I cannot accept that because it goes against forum etiquette. Please post what you think is important. But thanks anyway.

I'm sorry... what?  A link to another forum post goes against forum etiquette?  Since when?

As for what's important: Fine.

Quote

I gotta say, that's damning evidence.  It made me start to question.  I mean, police in the background, police in the hallway... its pretty convincing.  I can understand why you'd cling to that as evidence.

But I thought to myself... that's odd isn't it?  Why would they have FBI posing as MAGA to break windows so people can get in, cops handcuffing people so they can escort them inside, AND police opening doors so people can come inside.  That didn't make any sense, especially when they only needed the FBI agents.


So I decided to look at it from another angle.

Oh look, found one.
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
0126USCS01UpperWestTerrace_2021-01-06_14h30min01s820ms_1.mp4

That'll solve your video issue with the first video you found showing that the cops actively tried to keep them out, not let them in.  PROTESTERS let them in.

And if you want the first people inside?
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
0102USCS01SenateWingDoornearS139_2021-01-06_14h11min04s377ms.mp4
(should be page 5)
at 1:40 you see glass breaking and falling inwards and people climbing in then opening the door, smashing another window, etc..
Those were the first people inside.

Quote from: disputeone on September 17, 2025, 03:53:29 AM

I think he has a disability. It's not his fault I'm sure he's a nice enough guy offline. Eventually you start to learn to decipher what hes saying.

I will make an effort.

The Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, pronounced [ˈʁaɪçstaːksˌbʁant] ⓘ) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday, 27 February 1933. Marinus van der Lubbe, a Dutch council communist, was said to be the culprit; the Nazis attributed the fire to a group of Communist agitators, used it as a pretext to claim that Communists were plotting against the German government, and induced President Paul von Hindenburg to issue the Reichstag Fire Decree suspending civil liberties and pursue a "ruthless confrontation" with the Communists.

Quote from: Lorddave on September 17, 2025, 04:12:28 AM

Quote from: Torve on September 17, 2025, 01:50:17 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 17, 2025, 01:47:00 AM

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5536.msg291823#msg291823
That has alot of my stuff.  There's some in the page before too.

The link to videos only go to the archive as a whole (because that's how they made it).  I did put the video name under the link so you can find it.

I'm sorry, I cannot accept that because it goes against forum etiquette. Please post what you think is important. But thanks anyway.

I'm sorry... what?  A link to another forum post goes against forum etiquette?  Since when?

As for what's important: Fine.

Quote

I gotta say, that's damning evidence.  It made me start to question.  I mean, police in the background, police in the hallway... its pretty convincing.  I can understand why you'd cling to that as evidence.

But I thought to myself... that's odd isn't it?  Why would they have FBI posing as MAGA to break windows so people can get in, cops handcuffing people so they can escort them inside, AND police opening doors so people can come inside.  That didn't make any sense, especially when they only needed the FBI agents.


So I decided to look at it from another angle.

Oh look, found one.
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
0126USCS01UpperWestTerrace_2021-01-06_14h30min01s820ms_1.mp4

That'll solve your video issue with the first video you found showing that the cops actively tried to keep them out, not let them in.  PROTESTERS let them in.

And if you want the first people inside?
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
0102USCS01SenateWingDoornearS139_2021-01-06_14h11min04s377ms.mp4
(should be page 5)
at 1:40 you see glass breaking and falling inwards and people climbing in then opening the door, smashing another window, etc..
Those were the first people inside.

I thank you for your efforts. Demonstrating good faith is unfortunately a rare commodity.

But video 3 remains.

Waving the protestors through the barricades. No identity available. Not called by the jan6C.

Then we add to that Ray Epps. Very clearly inciting a crowd to enter the capitol building. Arguably the most blatant act of insurrection on that day. Taken to one side and given a slap on the wrist w. no jail time by the authorities while others got 10 years.

Nick Fuentes. Apparently the same thing.

That's three. That amounts to a pattern and a conspiracy. Epps and Fuentes were feds. The unknown policeman may have expressed his orders more clearly than intended.

Conclusion: Jan 6 was a Reichstag Fire operation.

https://www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/19553.png

....

Conclusion: Jan 6 was a Reichstag Fire operation.

Kabool.

How do you feel about people standing outside the capital telling everyone they need to disregard the police, to enter forcefully if necessary, to break down the barricades and breach the capitol.

Do you think people like that are guilty of a crime? In your opinion.

Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on September 16, 2025, 02:13:59 PM

Anyway, this.



Spacey you will love it.

I do love it! It is something I have been trying to say over the past couple months, but I didn't say it as well.

I don't know what the f*ck you just said little kid, but you special, you reached in, and touched a brothers heart.

I'll put more effort into trying to understand what you mean after you answer my question.

Quote from: disputeone on September 17, 2025, 04:47:17 AM

Kabool.

How do you feel about people standing outside the capital telling everyone they need to disregard the police, to enter forcefully if necessary, to break down the barricades and breach the capitol.

Do you think people like that are guilty of a crime? In your opinion.

Quote from: disputeone on September 17, 2025, 08:30:27 PM

I don't know what the f*ck you just said little kid, but you special, you reached in, and touched a brothers heart.

I'll put more effort into trying to understand what you mean after you answer my question.

Quote from: disputeone on September 17, 2025, 04:47:17 AM

Kabool.

How do you feel about people standing outside the capital telling everyone they need to disregard the police, to enter forcefully if necessary, to break down the barricades and breach the capitol.

Do you think people like that are guilty of a crime? In your opinion.

I refuse to answer that question.

Does that mean you refuse to answer this question?

I thought you would answer.

Kabool.

How do you feel about people standing outside the capital telling everyone they need to disregard the police, to enter forcefully if necessary, to break down the barricades and breach the capitol.

Do you think people like that are guilty of a crime? In your opinion.