Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #810 on: August 27, 2017, 02:43:18 PM »
You are incorrect and you speak nonsense.
You are a liar.
Are you an expert in construction now as well?
You keep asserting that kind of BS, but have been unable to prove any of it.

I am correct, you are the one speaking nonsense and lying.
No, I'm not an expert in construction, but I have ordered parts before and made things before, and constructed buildings before (I had a job to pay off my uni fees during uni).
Guess what? For some, 0.5 mm tolerance would be complete crap and make the part completely unusable.
For others, they had much larger tolerances and were fine.

Quite often in modern construction they will use lasers to measure distances and angles.
This is a lie.
Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.
You talk nonsense.
You don't speak from experience.
Nope. That is complete factual truth, something you seem to be unable to provide.
Sure, you could consider lasers as a "rough" measurement. But that is only if you want extremely good accuracy, which will then depend on the laser and you will be restricted to a few hundred nm or more.

But they are vastly superior to other measurement techniques.
I know from my own person experience and the facts about lasers and how they work and the alternatives, that lasers are used and they are very accurate.
I have seen entire structures built not using a spirit level at all. Instead a laser level was used. This is for 2 reasons.
Firstly, the laser is far more accurate than a spirit level, and typically easier to use.
But perhaps more importantly, as I pointed out before, ERRORS ACCUMULATE, and what I didn't point out before, things aren't perfectly straight.

If you attempt to make a level floor using a spirit level, then there will be some error in the first measurement, making that likely slightly off level. If the piece is warped at all (i.e. not perfectly straight) that may depend upon where it was measured.
You then set up the next piece and get another error, which could be the same or opposite. And so on.
In the end, you can end up with a significantly unlevel floor. Typically due to these errors, and the time consuming nature of it, they don't use a spirit level on the entire thing.
Instead they do that for 3 sides, and then use a string line to fix it, including the rest of the floor.

Now compare that to a laser level, which projects a horizontal laser beam, very narrow, set up once for the entire floor.
You then measure each point on that floor using the laser level, which is very accurate, far more so than a spirit level.

You just make things up.
If you can't tell the truth on simple things why do expect anyone to believe anything else you say ?
Yes, I could just make things up, like you clearly are.
But why would I bother doing that when I care about the truth and have reality on my side?

You also have laser rangefinders, far more accurate than a tape measure which can stretch and shrink and is effected by heat.

You are yet to point out a single lie that I have said. Instead you just repeatedly lie and assert bullshit.

Almost everyone that has built things in real life, at least large scale things, isn't using a tape measure to measure everything. Only a complete retard would try that.
This is a complete lie you are a fantasist who claims to be an expert on everything.
No, it isn't. It is a true factual statement.

No. I will not provide evidence for your pathetic strawman.
You can't provide any evidence because you are a liar and make things up.
No. You are the liar. You are the one making things up.
You spout pure bullshit, making up pathetic strawmen and then demanding we back it up.

Why should we back up something we never claimed? It is your claim, you back it up or you start addressing what we have actually said.

I have wiped the floor with you, repeatedly.
You are fantasist.
You have not provided any evidence whatsoever.
Except I have, remember the diagrams I provided and the explanations which showed you to be full of shit?

You are the one repeatedly making baseless claims with no evidence.

Please provide evidence or highlight exactly where I have lied as I have with you RETARD.
Except you are yet to provide evidence or indicate actual lies from me. Each time you have been lying so you can just dismiss my arguments rather than admit you were wrong.
So there are plenty of lies of yours in this thread, and this is just another one, and there is the lie of you repeatedly calling people retards.

You explanation is not acceptable you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your fantastic claims.
You are unable to point out a single thing wrong with it. As such, you have no basis to claim they are not acceptable.
Also, I did provide evidence, which you just ignored.
And again, I am not the one with fantastic claims.

You claim people have seen the dark side of the moon.
I have asked you repeatedly exactly who has seen the dark side of the moon and you can't provide any evidence.
Again, do you mean the dark side or the far side. They are 2 different things, and people will often get them mixed up.

So which is it?

It is now 2017.
In 2017 we expect to see video evidence.
I don't give a shit what you expect. Unless you want to pay for that video evidence you have no right to demand it unless people are claiming it exists.

You claim people have seen the moon rotate I have asked you repeatedly exactly who has seen the moon rotate and you can't provide any evidence.
I told you who, and I provided evidence before, which you just ignored.

No, it is clear it is not a selenelion eclipse.
This again highlights your mental disability.
You suffer from delusions of grandeur.
In your self concocted fantasy you believe you are more knowledgeable than space.com who say the said eclipse was a selenelion at the times and location shown in the video I posted earlier.
And there you go describing yourself again.
No where at space.com (which are not experts, they are journalists) does it claim that video contains a selenelion eclipse. Nor do they claim it will be one for everyone.

Again, it is only a selenelion eclipse for some people in specific regions. (effectively a ring around Earth).
If you aren't in that region, but still see the eclipse, it isn't a selenelion eclipse for you.

The video was not taken from that region. As such, the video does not contain a selenelion eclipse.

No, the currently accepted model does accurately reflect reality. Your pathetic strawmen of it don't.
You are delusional ; you are also a liar.
No one has seen the Globe orbit the Sun.
No one will ever see the Globe orbit the Sun.
No one has seen the Globe.
No one will ever see the Globe.
No one has been in space.
No one will ever go to space.
No one has seen the dark side of the moon.
No one will ever see the dark side of the moon.
No one has seen the moon rotate.
No one will ever see the moon rotate.
If no one has ever seen any of the above and you have no video evidence illustrating these fantastic claims how can your model reflect reality?
The above are all fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric model.
It is 2017 and there is NO video evidence that illustrates any of the above.
This is because all of the above has been fabricated to reinforce your Heliocentric deception.
And there you go spouting off a load of bullshit, yet again.
Prove each and every one of them.

As the reader can verify for themselves from the videos I posted earlier regarding the Solar eclipse and the Lunar eclipse the videos clearly demonstrate why these events are impossible on your heliocentric model.
No, they can see pathetic garbage which has already been refuted, where you simple ignore the refutations.

The claims in those videos are simply not acceptable, and I have already explained why, explaining what they get wrong.

Research ?
I have worked in construction you liar.
Have you worked in construction and used a laser instead of a tape measure?
And that is likely just another lie from you.
You have shown that you are quite happy to lie to try and back up your position.

I have worked in construction, and I have used lasers to do measure things.

If you haven't, then you are either working with a shitty company, or you only did it long ago.


As I have said you can say and claim what you want but anyone who has worked in construction will know that you and your colleugues are lying and just repeat what you have been told from the position of an expert.
No, they wont.
Those that have worked in construction in modern times, with decent companies will know lasers are used quite often.
Especially as almost all surveying, which is a key step in construction projects, is done with lasers these days, at least in the civilised world.

So no, they will know you are the liar.

No you speak nonsense and are incorrect Paul.
It is not the dark side of the moon that is observed ; it is the sky.
The video's below illustrates this fact.
Stop just providing links to crap.
Make the argument yourself.

This statement is a contradiction in it's  own rite .
The reason it is referred to as the dark side of the moon is because it is not visible.
So it is not possible to observe this alleged dark side you speak of.
No, the reason it is referred to as the dark side is because it is dark, or because it is really the far side and people get confused with terminology.

Night is dark as well, does that mean you can't see anything? No.

If you really mean the dark side instead of the far side, then this changes as the moon moves about its orbit. During the full moon, the dark side is the far side. During the new moon, the dark side is the near side.

And guess what? People have seen them.

What do you think happens? That part of the moon just disappears?

Guess what? We know that is wrong, due to light reflected from Earth:
https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/earthshine.html

So no, the dark side has been seen.

Because these REtards speak from the position of an expert in regard to any subject.
No they don't. They just point out all your bullshit.

I'm making the readers aware that they are liars and have no real life experience of the subjects they are discussing.
No, you are just blatantly lying about it so you can dismiss what they say.

The Globe has been debunked end of.
No it hasn't. You are yet to provide any sound argument against it.
All you have provided are lies and bullshit, which have been refuted.

I do not need to provide any proof .
Yes you do. You are making numerous claims. As such, you need to back them up.

As I have said anyone that has worked in construction will know  I'm telling the truth and that you are not.
Again, this is just another baseless claim.
You are yet to back this up. However others have refuted it and even provided evidence to show that is wrong.

I have nothing to prove if the readers choose to believe you then so be it.
Well thanks for admitting that you are full of pure bullshit and have absolutely nothing to back up any of the bullshit you say.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #811 on: August 28, 2017, 01:44:01 AM »
Jack Black is a liar and a fantasist who believes he is an expert at everything this is very apparent when reading his posts.

The only thing you are an expert in is :

Talking shit

 ;D


Almost everyone that has built things in real life, at least large scale things, isn't using a tape measure to measure everything. Only a complete retard would try that.


You speak nonsense you have no real site experience.



Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.



I have seen entire structures built not using a spirit level at all. Instead a laser level was used.


So now you have realised the readers can see you talk out of your arse you are copying what I said two days ago.




Sure, you could consider lasers as a "rough" measurement.


Again ; now you have been exposed as a liar it seems you are now in agreement with me to try and win back some credibility.

Too late.


No, I'm not an expert in construction, but I have ordered parts before and made things before, and constructed buildings before (I had a job to pay off my uni fees during uni).


You are now claiming you have constructed buildings and been studying at university at the same time.

Wow  ;D

You are truly delusional if you think anyone will believe that bullshit.


You definetely suffer from delusions of grandeur.

A normal person would of just said they did some labouring on a building site whilst they was at university.
You liar.

In what capacity did you construct these buildings you speak of whilst you was at university ?

What trade did you have when you where constructing these buildings whilst you was at university ?

How did you manage to construct buildings and study for your bullshit degree at the same time ?

I can't wait for your next amazing story.

  ::)

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #812 on: August 28, 2017, 02:05:43 AM »
It is 2017 and you and your Heliocentric brethren have " NO " video evidence that illustrates these fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric deception.

This is because it is a fairytale.

No, the currently accepted model does accurately reflect reality. Your pathetic strawmen of it don't.
You are delusional ; you are also a liar.
No one has seen the Globe orbit the Sun.
No one will ever see the Globe orbit the Sun.
No one has seen the Globe.
No one will ever see the Globe.
No one has been in space.
No one will ever go to space.
No one has seen the dark side of the moon.
No one will ever see the dark side of the moon.
No one has seen the moon rotate.
No one will ever see the moon rotate.
If no one has ever seen any of the above and you have no video evidence illustrating these fantastic claims how can your model reflect reality?
The above are all fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric model.
It is 2017 and there is NO video evidence that illustrates any of the above.
This is because all of the above has been fabricated to reinforce your Heliocentric deception.

And there you go spouting off a load of bullshit, yet again.
Prove each and every one of them.


Are you for real ?

Why do I have to prove any of the above when no one reading this would have verified these aspects of your Heliocentric deception for themselves.

This is a flat earth forum.

This is my thread that is called Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe.

I have proved the said eclipse like all eclipses doesn't work on your model.

The burden of proof is on you ; to prove your heliocentric model matches reality and matches what can be observed.

Because the readers can verify for themselves that it does not.

No one will ever see the Globe orbit the Sun.
No one has seen the Globe.
No one will ever see the Globe.
No one has been in space.
No one will ever go to space.
No one has seen the dark side of the moon.
No one will ever see the dark side of the moon.
No one has seen the moon rotate.
No one will ever see the moon rotate.
If no one has ever seen any of the above and you have no video evidence illustrating these fantastic claims how can your model reflect reality?
The above are all fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric model.
It is 2017 and there is NO video evidence that illustrates any of the above.
This is because all of the above has been fabricated to reinforce your Heliocentric deception.

Please provide video evidence of these fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric religion.

You can not provide any video evidence for the above because your Heliocentric model is bullshit and doesn't exist in reality.

As you can't provide any video evidence your Heliocentric model is false and just a deception.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #814 on: August 28, 2017, 02:51:08 AM »
Jack Black is a liar and a fantasist who believes he is an expert at everything this is very apparent when reading his posts.
You really are a nasty little twit aren't you! But you do know what those that insist on calling others liars usually are! Read this:

From my experience it's those calling others stupid typically are the dumbest ones. Such as a cheater calling everyone else cheaters, liars calling everyone else liar, losers calling everyone else a loser etc etc etc...

It's name is deflection....
See yourself described here?

Your attitude is enough to sicken anyone about flat earthers!
Are you really trying to prove that flat earthers are vicious little brats and that the whole idea of a flat earth is ridiculous?
No matter, that's what you are doing.
:D :D You've completely lost out on your claim in the OP "Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe" so we understand your bad attitude!  :D :D
Now, what about getting down to providing actual evidence instead of trying your ad hominem and ad adsurdum attacks.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #815 on: August 28, 2017, 03:31:58 AM »
OK with professional laser levels?

http://content.fluke.com/promotions/promo-LL/eu/IG-EU-LL-2016-Laser-Levels-NPI-UKEN.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_o7NBRDgARIsAKvAgt2PfDAreRU_ovdIfUNM5FhmsEiCd3tI4zyXWGG9QiRrubSeBHWVNSQaAiWCEALw_wcB

and

https://shop.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/product/laser-measure-glm-250-vf--23314

I have not said lasers don't exist REtard.

If you read my post I have said that in construction they are used for :

 " rough measurements "

 " As a Straight edge "

 " For a level "



Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #816 on: August 28, 2017, 03:47:33 AM »
OK with professional laser levels?

http://content.fluke.com/promotions/promo-LL/eu/IG-EU-LL-2016-Laser-Levels-NPI-UKEN.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_o7NBRDgARIsAKvAgt2PfDAreRU_ovdIfUNM5FhmsEiCd3tI4zyXWGG9QiRrubSeBHWVNSQaAiWCEALw_wcB

and

https://shop.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/product/laser-measure-glm-250-vf--23314

I have not said lasers don't exist REtard.

If you read my post I have said that in construction they are used for :

 " rough measurements "

 " As a Straight edge "

 " For a level "



Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
'Rough' meaning?

You are happy with the use of GPS and lasers used by builders and surveyors to make out construction sites?
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #817 on: August 28, 2017, 03:49:58 AM »
The burden of proof is on you ; to prove your heliocentric model matches reality and matches what can be observed.
Totally untrue!
The Globe has been the accepted shape of the earth for a couple of millenia and the  Heliocentric Globe for centuries.
Hence, you are the one challenging the accepted model, so any onus of proof falls on you .

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No one will ever see the Globe orbit the Sun.
Incorrect!
We see the Globe orbit the sun all the time and that explains many things including the seasons, the changing of visible constellations, stellar aberration and parallax and many other things.

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No one has seen the Globe. No one will ever see the Globe.
Both Incorrect.
We see it every day, just look at the horizon over the ocean. For a better view, get a video of the rotating Globe from the EPIC on DSCOVR.

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No one has been in space. No one will ever go to space.
Totally incorrect.
Over 500 have been in space and 6 are there at present. Not my problem if you deny the facts!

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No one has seen the dark side of the moon. No one will ever see the dark side of the moon.
Totally incorrect. We see part of the dark side of the moon whenever we look at the moon when it is other than full!
Not my problem if you cannot see the truth in that statement!
Now, if by "the dark side of the moon" you really meant "the far side of the moon" you should have said  "the far side of the moon".
Don't blame me for your own ignorance!

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No one has seen the moon rotate. No one will ever see the moon rotate.
Totally incorrect. We see the moon rotating as it moves across the night night sky relative to the star background!
If the moon did not rotate on its axis we would see the other side of the moon, but we do not, QED!

Now remember, I am arguing from the truth of the Heliocentric Globe, until you prove that is wrong you have no case!

And any claim of yours that the Heliocentric Globe model does not match reality nor match what can be observed is
simply because you, yourself, do not understand the Heliocentric Globe model
You get your only information from totally erroneous YouTube videos, made by biased flat earthers, who do not understsnd the Heliocentric Globe model .

In other words, to put it bluntly, you simply have no idea what you are talking about!

By the way, you might enjoy seeing the Globe, rotating and the far, but not dark side of the moon!

That sure seems to be a rotating Globe!
:D From your favourite source of information!  :D

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #818 on: August 28, 2017, 03:56:38 AM »
I do not find your attack acceptable.

I have pointed out exactly where your boyfriend suffers from delusions of grandeur and provided evidence via quotes.

I have also highlighted where he was lying.

You can say what you like but you do not have any evidence to prove I'm a liar like I have with your boyfriend Jack Black.


Jack Black is a liar and a fantasist who believes he is an expert at everything this is very apparent when reading his posts.


You really are a nasty little twit aren't you! But you do know what those that insist on calling others liars usually are!


All I'm doing is telling the truth.

If that hurts Jack Black's feelings then so be it.

Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind I'm trying to help him.



Read this:

From my experience it's those calling others stupid typically are the dumbest ones. Such as a cheater calling everyone else cheaters, liars calling everyone else liar, losers calling everyone else a loser etc etc etc...

It's name is deflection....
See yourself described here?


What has other people telling lies have to do with me telling the truth ?

Your association of the two is a nonsense in itself.

Just because other pepole employ these methods does not mean that I do .


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #819 on: August 28, 2017, 04:33:58 AM »
how about:

You are delusional ; you are also a liar.
No one has seen the Flat Earth with a orbiting Sun.
No one will ever see the Flat Earth with an orbiting Sun.
No one has seen the Flat Earth.
No one will ever see the Flat Earth.
No one has been to the Dome.
No one will ever go to the Dome.
No one has seen the the moon as it is differently described by FEIB.

If no one has ever seen any of the above and you have no video evidence (not even one evidence at all) illustrating these fantastic claims how can your model reflect reality?
The above are all fundermental aspects of your non relalistic model.
It is 2017 and there is NO video evidence that illustrates any of the above.
This is because all of the above has been fabricated in the minds of some people that have not a little bit of understanding of the reality and of science.

And there you go spouting off a load of bullshit, yet again.
Prove each and every one of them.



Are you for real ?

Why do you have to prove any of the above?

because this is a flat earth forum.

and in a forum you have to answer questions about the topic of the forum

The burden of proof is on you ; to prove your flat earth model matches reality and matches what can be observed.

Because the readers can verify for themselves that it does not.

also the global earth in a heliocentric system is proven by many scientists.

you are the one, that claims that these proofs are wrong. therefore its up to you to prove that your claim is correct.
either by showing evidence that your claim is correct or you have to disprove each and everyone of the scientific proofs.

you miss to do both. you have not shows any proof and also not where not able to disprove one single scientific proof.

you even did not show any proof of your claim in the other thread about your setup of your satellite dish.


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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #820 on: August 28, 2017, 05:03:46 AM »
I do not find your attack acceptable.
Tough cheese! You are the one calling others liars and that is so often evidence that that the perpetrator, YOU, is guilty of that same offense!
I did warn you of how others see that sort of behaviour before, but you still do it!
Here read it AGAIN!

I do believe that it's time to remind you of this again:

THE SOCIOPATH WILL ALWAYS ACCUSE YOU OF WHAT THEY ARE GUILTY OF THEMSELF

Quote from:  By Bernard Pliers
Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification
But in the real world, the defense mechanisms are a little more elaborate. For another example of a defense , let's look at "projection," and we are all familiar with this. 
1) The angry person accuses someone else being angry
2) A liar accuses others of lying
3) The cheater accuses others of cheating
4) The thief accuses others of stealing (Notice how the thief is not accusing others of lying? No he's obsessed with only his own sins.)

From: Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification
Liars And Cheaters Worry The Most About Being Lied To And Cheated On
How to Deal With Someone Who Accuses You of Being a Liar.
And those are not my words, Mr Resistance.is.Futile, it is well known in psychological circles.
I am not accusing you of being a liar, but of behaving in a way that a psychologist might deem sociopathic.
But, once someone starts accusing others of being liars
      for simply having differing beliefs, presenting unwelcome evidence or even making a few innocent mistakes (and I make plenty),
we start asking who the real liar is!

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From my experience it's those calling others stupid typically are the dumbest ones. Such as a cheater calling everyone else cheaters, liars calling everyone else liar, losers calling everyone else a loser etc etc etc...

It's name is deflection....
See yourself described here?

Yes, Babyhighspeed says essentially the same as my quote above.
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What has other people telling lies have to do with me telling the truth?
Maybe they are not telling lies and maybe what you claim is not THE TRUTH, but no more than your misguided opinion!

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Just because other pepole employ these methods does not mean that I do .
You keep presenting what is simply your false opinions and claim they are THE TRUTH, well I disagree with them and I will support others that disagree with you.

Now, if you want to regain a trace of your lost credibility - stop calling others liars simply because they have (vastly) different beliefs.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #821 on: August 28, 2017, 05:17:03 AM »
I'm just going to skip your repeated bullshit (like your repeatedly lies about me being a liar) and cut to the chase.

This will be my last post on your construction rabbit hole. It is way past time to get back to your failings on the eclipse.

Are you planning on justifying your BS claims? Like showing how the shadow went the wrong way? I already pointed out your claims were BS, and explained why.

Or perhaps you will finally act like an honest, rational human being for once in your pathetic existence and admit you were wrong and that the eclipse is not a problem for HC.

Quite often in modern construction they will use lasers to measure distances and angles.
This is a lie.
Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.
You talk nonsense.
You don't speak from experience.
I have seen entire structures built not using a spirit level at all. Instead a laser level was used.
So now you have realised the readers can see you talk out of your arse you are copying what I said two days ago.
My bad, I misread what you wrote, and I put in the quote in context.
I thought you said they don't use then as anything except a guide and would use a straight edge or a level.
This was because you said it was a lie that they use them for measuring angles.

Do you know what a laser level does? Measure angles.

We already established that we can use angles to measure distances.

So you have now completely contradicted yourself.
Good job.

Sure, you could consider lasers as a "rough" measurement.
Again ; now you have been exposed as a liar it seems you are now in agreement with me to try and win back some credibility.
No, I haven't.
Did you notice the quote marks?
That was indicating that calling it rough is BS. In reality, modern laser instruments are some of the most accurate ones we have (especially when just considering most construction).

They are rough compared to electron microscopes, but extremely accurate by any sane standards.

I even explained what that roughness was, which of course, you ignored, and instead tried to quote mine me to pretend I said something completely different. So there you go showing your dishonesty again.

No, I'm not an expert in construction, but I have ordered parts before and made things before, and constructed buildings before (I had a job to pay off my uni fees during uni).
You are now claiming you have constructed buildings and been studying at university at the same time.
Wow  ;D
You are truly delusional if you think anyone will believe that bullshit.
No. It was a job I had during breaks.

Do you really think everyone in construction are university graduates with degrees in engineering?

A lot are simply labourers without degrees.

A normal person would of just said they did some labouring on a building site whilst they was at university.
Why?
Why wouldn't a normal person have said they were constructing buildings/constructed buildings?

In what capacity did you construct these buildings you speak of whilst you was at university?
A variety of capacities, including using lasers for measurement of angles, i.e. if something was level.
At other times with other sites they weren't used and instead string lines were used. Only rarely were spirit levels used.

I can't wait for your next amazing story.
And I can't wait for you to cut out all the bullshit and admit you were wrong.

If you read my post I have said that in construction they are used for :
 " rough measurements "
 " As a Straight edge "
 " For a level "
And in construction, neither of those are rough measurements.

If you want a rough measurement of a straight line or if something is level you just use your eyesight.
If you want to be more accurate with level you can put a ball on and see if it rolls, or use a spirit level.

Lasers are used for highly accurate measurements.

If you would like some more evidence you are full of shit, how about we use what most "normal" people would?
Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_rangefinder#Laser_measuring_tools
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Laser rangefinders are also used in several industries like construction, renovation and real estate as an alternative to a tape measure

Yes, rangefinders aren't always as accurate, but when you instead measure angles to determine distance, they are very accurate, or when you use much more expensive ones.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #822 on: August 28, 2017, 05:25:09 AM »
It is 2017 and you and your Heliocentric brethren have " NO " video evidence that illustrates these fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric deception.
You do understand that there's a difference between having no evidence and having no evidence that you would accept, don't you?

Don't ask for evidence that you aren't willing to accept.
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« Reply #823 on: August 28, 2017, 08:01:24 PM »
It is 2017 and you and your Heliocentric brethren have " NO " video evidence that illustrates these fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric deception.

You're right. There's no evidence, video or otherwise, for a heliocentric deception.

That's because there's no deception; the heliocentric model of the solar system works well. If you had any evidence that it was a deception, you would have shown it by now.

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This is a flat earth forum.

Yes, we know. It's hosted by "The Flat Earth Society", which is kind of a hint.

Did you know the existence of a flat earth forum on the Internet doesn't mean the earth is flat?

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This is my thread that is called Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe.

Indeed. Do you have any results yet that support the thread title? Anything conclusive from all those balloons?

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I have proved the said eclipse like all eclipses doesn't work on your model.

The model predicted the eclipse perfectly. That strongly supports the model as being correct. If you have any explicit evidence to the contrary, please present it rather than just making idle claims.

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The burden of proof is on you ; to prove your heliocentric model matches reality and matches what can be observed.

No, it's not. But please consider Exhibit 'E': Last week's solar eclipse happening exactly as predicted by the heliocentric model of the solar system.

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Because the readers can verify for themselves that it does not.

Can you provide an example where it does not. So far only you've only done handwaving.

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Please provide video evidence of these fundermental aspects of your Heliocentric religion.

You can not provide any video evidence for the above because your Heliocentric model is bullshit and doesn't exist in reality.

As you can't provide any video evidence your Heliocentric model is false and just a deception.

Again, you're right. There is no evidence (video or otherwise) that the heliocentric model of the solar system is false or a deception. That's probably because it's true.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #824 on: August 29, 2017, 02:21:21 AM »
<snip>

This is my thread that is called Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe.

I have proved the said eclipse like all eclipses doesn't work on your model.

The burden of proof is on you ; to prove your heliocentric model matches reality and matches what can be observed.

Because the readers can verify for themselves that it does not.
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Okay.  If the burden of proof is on us, then here it is.  Keeping in mind I’ve already posted this...as did others for that matter.

The path of the eclipse is calculated using Besselian elements.   Besselian elements calculate the local circumstances of an observer on the surface of the earth.   

To prove that this the method use and that it matches reality, here are the calculations related to the Aug 21, 2017 eclipse that predicted the path of to within several arc seconds of latitude/longitude and was based on a spherical earth in a heliocentric system. 

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEbeselm/SEbeselm2001/SE2017Aug21Tbeselm.html

Easily verifiable by anyone who cares to do the calculations.   

I’ve provided the proof of the calculations for everyone to verify.  The math works.

The path of an eclipse is based on a heliocentric, spherical earth model. QED!

Debunk it if you can.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #825 on: August 29, 2017, 11:25:42 AM »
I'm just going to skip your repeated bullshit (like your repeatedly lies about me being a liar) and cut to the chase.

This will be my last post on your construction rabbit hole. It is way past time to get back to your failings on the eclipse.

Are you planning on justifying your BS claims? Like showing how the shadow went the wrong way? I already pointed out your claims were BS, and explained why.

Or perhaps you will finally act like an honest, rational human being for once in your pathetic existence and admit you were wrong and that the eclipse is not a problem for HC.

Quite often in modern construction they will use lasers to measure distances and angles.
This is a lie.
Anyone that has worked in construction will know lasers only provide a rough measurement.
Anyone that has worked in construction knows lasers are used for a guide for example to use as a straight edge or as a level.
You talk nonsense.
You don't speak from experience.
I have seen entire structures built not using a spirit level at all. Instead a laser level was used.
So now you have realised the readers can see you talk out of your arse you are copying what I said two days ago.
My bad, I misread what you wrote, and I put in the quote in context.
I thought you said they don't use then as anything except a guide and would use a straight edge or a level.
This was because you said it was a lie that they use them for measuring angles.

Do you know what a laser level does? Measure angles.

We already established that we can use angles to measure distances.

So you have now completely contradicted yourself.
Good job.

Sure, you could consider lasers as a "rough" measurement.
Again ; now you have been exposed as a liar it seems you are now in agreement with me to try and win back some credibility.
No, I haven't.
Did you notice the quote marks?
That was indicating that calling it rough is BS. In reality, modern laser instruments are some of the most accurate ones we have (especially when just considering most construction).

They are rough compared to electron microscopes, but extremely accurate by any sane standards.

I even explained what that roughness was, which of course, you ignored, and instead tried to quote mine me to pretend I said something completely different. So there you go showing your dishonesty again.

No, I'm not an expert in construction, but I have ordered parts before and made things before, and constructed buildings before (I had a job to pay off my uni fees during uni).
You are now claiming you have constructed buildings and been studying at university at the same time.
Wow  ;D
You are truly delusional if you think anyone will believe that bullshit.
No. It was a job I had during breaks.

Do you really think everyone in construction are university graduates with degrees in engineering?

A lot are simply labourers without degrees.

A normal person would of just said they did some labouring on a building site whilst they was at university.
Why?
Why wouldn't a normal person have said they were constructing buildings/constructed buildings?

In what capacity did you construct these buildings you speak of whilst you was at university?
A variety of capacities, including using lasers for measurement of angles, i.e. if something was level.
At other times with other sites they weren't used and instead string lines were used. Only rarely were spirit levels used.

I can't wait for your next amazing story.
And I can't wait for you to cut out all the bullshit and admit you were wrong.

If you read my post I have said that in construction they are used for :
 " rough measurements "
 " As a Straight edge "
 " For a level "
And in construction, neither of those are rough measurements.

If you want a rough measurement of a straight line or if something is level you just use your eyesight.
If you want to be more accurate with level you can put a ball on and see if it rolls, or use a spirit level.

Lasers are used for highly accurate measurements.

If you would like some more evidence you are full of shit, how about we use what most "normal" people would?
Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_rangefinder#Laser_measuring_tools
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Laser rangefinders are also used in several industries like construction, renovation and real estate as an alternative to a tape measure

Yes, rangefinders aren't always as accurate, but when you instead measure angles to determine distance, they are very accurate, or when you use much more expensive ones.


Thank you for your Amazing stories.

Nothing has changed from your last post you are still a fantasist and a liar this is apparent to anyone that has worked or works in construction.


I have seen entire structures built not using a spirit level at all. Instead a laser level was used.

And your point is....

As I have already pointed out it is me that said lasers are used for a level in construction this was three days ago.


Do you really think everyone in construction are university graduates with degrees in engineering?

A lot are simply labourers without degrees.


Your talking out of your arse again it is obvious to anyone reading this you have never been on site.

People who work in construction are called " TRADESMEN ".


TRADESMEN need qualifications and are not labourers you delusional liar.

TRADESMEN serve apprenticeship's which are normally atleast four years long you delusional liar.


All labourers do is clean the toilets ; make tea ,  fetch and carry and pick shit up you liar.

Exactly how was you constructing buildings as a labourer ?

Lol.

Lol.

If you read my post I have said that in construction they are used for :
 " rough measurements "
 " As a Straight edge "
 " For a level "



And in construction, neither of those are rough measurements.


You speak nonsense .

How can a rough measurement not be a rough measurement ?

How can a straight edge be a rough measurement ?

How can a level be a rough measurement ?

I can assure you speaking nonsense does not make you sound smart or clever.


If you want a rough measurement of a straight line or if something is level you just use your eyesight.
If you want to be more accurate with level you can put a ball on and see if it rolls, or use a spirit level.


You speak absolute nonsense you liar.

No one measures things by eye .

No one puts a ball on something to see if it is level.  ;D ;D ;D

I've not had this much fun for ages.

Lol.


Yes, rangefinders aren't always as accurate, but when you instead measure angles to determine distance, they are very accurate, or when you use much more expensive ones.

Yes like I said in construction they are used for rough measurements you can verify this by asking any " TRADESMEN " if they use a laser to measure things or if they use a tape measure.

You are not normal.

You claim to have been a labourer on a building site who " constructs buildings "

Anyone normal would have said " I did a bit of labouring on site when I was at university " .

But as you are some sort of freak that suffers from delusions of grandeur you say"  I constructed buildings "


You then continue to speak of the construction industry from the position of an expert.

You know nothing.

If you think anyone is going to believe your bullshit you freak you are delusional.

I will ask you again in what capacity did you construct buildings as a labourer whilst you was at university ?

What exactly did you do ?

You said you used a laser to do what exactly?


Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #826 on: August 29, 2017, 11:44:09 AM »
Interesting R.I.F, so whats your 'trade' then, what qualifications do you have other than being a professional fuck wit
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #827 on: August 29, 2017, 11:46:26 AM »
Interesting R.I.F, so whats your 'trade' then, what qualifications do you have other than being a professional fuck wit
He said he studied Electrical Engineering "to the degree level"...what ever that means.  So, apparently he's an EE.

Mike
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #828 on: August 29, 2017, 11:50:53 AM »
Interesting R.I.F, so whats your 'trade' then, what qualifications do you have other than being a professional fuck wit

My Trade / profession is irrelevant .


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #829 on: August 29, 2017, 12:14:37 PM »
Interesting R.I.F, so whats your 'trade' then, what qualifications do you have other than being a professional fuck wit

My Trade / profession is irrelevant .


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

exactly, because you have no working knowledge about physics, astronomy, mathematics and other real science.

i assume you where at a university (if that is correct) to study theology.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #830 on: August 29, 2017, 12:28:27 PM »
TRADESMEN need qualifications and are not labourers you delusional liar.

TRADESMEN serve apprenticeship's which are normally atleast four years long you delusional liar.
What sort of qualifications do tradesmen need?

I'll give you a hint.

You don't need to go to university get them.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #831 on: August 29, 2017, 12:53:25 PM »
RiF - I see laser and GPS equipment used for both surveying and marking out building sites.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #832 on: August 29, 2017, 01:13:39 PM »
RiF - I see laser and GPS equipment used for both surveying and marking out building sites.

but he is not the guy how would do this.
he is a tradesman, that means he is the one that uses the markings of the foreman (that used laser and GPS equipment) to build a construction according to drawings on that markings. these drawings are made most times by an engineer. and if there are some issues he has to consult his foreman to get these issues clarified.


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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #833 on: August 29, 2017, 01:21:52 PM »
RiF - I see laser and GPS equipment used for both surveying and marking out building sites.

but he is not the guy how would do this.
he is a tradesman, that means he is the one that uses the markings of the foreman (that used laser and GPS equipment) to build a construction according to drawings on that markings. these drawings are made most times by an engineer. and if there are some issues he has to consult his foreman to get these issues clarified.
and:

Surveying — Survey-Grade GNSS receivers can be used to position survey markers, buildings, and road construction. These units use the signal from both the L1 and L2 GPS frequencies. Even though the L2 code data are encrypted, the signal's carrier wave enables correction of some ionospheric errors. These dual-frequency GPS receivers typically cost US$10,000 or more, but can have positioning errors on the order of one centimetre or less when used in carrier phase differential GPS mode.

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #834 on: August 29, 2017, 01:23:55 PM »
TRADESMEN need qualifications and are not labourers you delusional liar.

TRADESMEN serve apprenticeship's which are normally atleast four years long you delusional liar.
What sort of qualifications do tradesmen need?

I'll give you a hint.

You don't need to go to university get them.

Stop talking nonsense REtard.

What are you trying to say ?

Are you implying Tradesmen are labourers like the delusional freak known as Jack Black.

 (the labourer who has constructed buildings )

Lol.

Lol.

The more he lies the deeper he digs his hole.

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #835 on: August 29, 2017, 01:37:40 PM »

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Really?  Can't wait to see that.  Point me in the direction where you are wiping the floor with him. 

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #836 on: August 29, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Really?  Can't wait to see that.  Point me in the direction where you are wiping the floor with him.

That's because your blind REtard.

I have established you Heliocentrics are not normal this becomes more apparent the more I converse with you freaks.

The readers will be able to see this aswell.

The more you stick up for the liar the more obvious it is that something is going off here.

Lol.


Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #837 on: August 29, 2017, 01:45:15 PM »

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Really?  Can't wait to see that.  Point me in the direction where you are wiping the floor with him.

That's because your blind REtard.

I have established you Heliocentrics are not normal this becomes more apparent the more I converse with you freaks.

The readers will be able to see this aswell.

The more you stick up for the liar the more obvious it is that something is going off here.

Lol.


Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Why the insults?  I just asked a simple question to where you were wiping the floor with him?  I never said I was Heliocentric, so I don't understand why you are calling me a freak. 

Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #838 on: August 29, 2017, 01:48:01 PM »

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Really?  Can't wait to see that.  Point me in the direction where you are wiping the floor with him.

That's because your blind REtard.

I have established you Heliocentrics are not normal this becomes more apparent the more I converse with you freaks.

The readers will be able to see this aswell.

The more you stick up for the liar the more obvious it is that something is going off here.

Lol.


Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Why the insults?  I just asked a simple question to where you were wiping the floor with him?  I never said I was Heliocentric, so I don't understand why you are calling me a freak.

You must be a freak to not see he is getting destroyed by me.

You must be a heliocentric to be so far up Jack Black's arse.

  ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

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Re: Eclipse 21.08.17 will debunk the Globe
« Reply #839 on: August 29, 2017, 01:50:35 PM »

I'm absolutely wiping the floor with him.

Lol.

Lol.


Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Really?  Can't wait to see that.  Point me in the direction where you are wiping the floor with him.

That's because your blind REtard.

I have established you Heliocentrics are not normal this becomes more apparent the more I converse with you freaks.

The readers will be able to see this aswell.

The more you stick up for the liar the more obvious it is that something is going off here.

Lol.


Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Why the insults?  I just asked a simple question to where you were wiping the floor with him?  I never said I was Heliocentric, so I don't understand why you are calling me a freak.

You must be a freak to not see he is getting destroyed by me.

You must be a heliocentric to be so far up Jack Black's arse.

  ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

Ok then, point out to an actual post where you are wiping the floor with him.  Should be really easy to do, not sure why you won't just to it...