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Why do you support donald trump

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26610 on: May 11, 2026, 05:14:09 AM »
I did too, actually.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=92662.msg2434040#msg2434040
Mentioned it here, two years ago. Unconvinced briefly praised me about it.

For the record, I've voted Green Party and Democrat before.

I stopped voting Democrat, after it occurred to me that personal freedom was far more important than gimmicky civil rights stuff that they could undo later. And when I read a book about how Democrats pretend to be friends of the blacks but backstab them, and noticed similar patterns. And lately Democrats have done nothing to convince me they are as good as advertised. FFS, they are hoping to overturn the courts because they didn't get their way on a bill they outright lied about.

Well, I stand corrected.
You're even dumber than I thought.  But I guess since America is losing its status as a super power and crashing, God must have wanted America to be destroyed and thus, put Trump in power.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26611 on: May 11, 2026, 05:17:40 AM »
God must have wanted America to be destroyed.

So it seems, so it seems.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26612 on: May 11, 2026, 07:49:31 AM »
According to European news.

Which of course, isn't in any way biased... oh wait, you all think Trump is making a big mistake by not consulting with the EU or NATO about Ukraine. Not just some of you. Every European that I have talked to, none of you gets that NATO and EU are both deeply obsolete. You all think you're powerful, relevant, and able to take US easily.

The last war EU fought: Bosnian War, 1992 to 1995. I was 13 when it ended.
The last war US fought: You want before Ukraine and Iran? That would be Afghanistan, which we fought for 20 straight years.
The last war Russia fought: (before Ukraine) Second Chechen war 1999 to 2009

I'd trust the odds of a country that at least fought its wars in the 21st century to ones that haven't.

Is Trump throwing around resources like crazy? Sure. Is Trump proving that Europe is incredibly weak? You betcha. Has he cut taxes? Yes, my dad would have owed money, but he got an exemption. Gutting the DEI? Yuppers. Actually defending Israel instead of being another globalist asshole? Yes. "But he's ruining America!" If diversity is America's strength, it deserves to be ruined.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26613 on: May 11, 2026, 08:05:26 AM »
No one thinks the EU could easily beat the US.
We can, but it would be a long and tough fight.  And only because Trump is an idiot who fired several very skilled generals and surrounded himself with 'yes' men who won't know or won't say when he's doing something stupid.

Also, The EU was in Afghanistan.

Also also, America lost the war in Afghanistan after 20 years.  Let that sink in.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26614 on: May 11, 2026, 10:52:06 AM »
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But I guess since America is losing its status as a super power and crashing, God must have wanted America to be destroyed and thus, put Trump in power.

Judges 7
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1Early in the morning Jerubbaala (that is, Gideon) and all the men with him camped beside the spring of Harod. And the camp of Midian was north of them in the valley near the hill of Moreh.

2Then the LORD said to Gideon, “You have too many men for Me to deliver Midian into their hands, lest Israel glorify themselves over Me, saying, ‘My own hand has saved me.’ 3Now, therefore, proclaim in the hearing of the men: ‘Whoever is fearful and trembling may turn back and leave Mount Gilead.’”

So twenty-two thousand of them turned back, but ten thousand remained.

4Then the LORD said to Gideon, “There are still too many men. Take them down to the water, and I will sift them for you there. If I say to you, ‘This one shall go with you,’ he shall go. But if I say, ‘This one shall not go with you,’ he shall not go.”

5So Gideon brought the men down to the water, and the LORD said to him, “Separate those who lap the water with their tongues like a dog from those who kneel to drink.” 6And the number of those who lapped the water with their hands to their mouths was three hundred men; all the others knelt to drink.

7Then the LORD said to Gideon, “With the three hundred men who lapped the water I will save you and deliver the Midianites into your hand. But all the others are to go home.”

If the Lord is on the side of Israel and America, neither the numbers of troops nor weapons make us a superpower. What makes us a superpower is the protection of God against our godless shithead enemies.

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Also, The EU was in Afghanistan.
You were doing your nails?

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The EU has focused on providing humanitarian aid and support for basic needs and livelihoods in Afghanistan, especially since the Taliban took power in 2021. Development cooperation is currently suspended, and all assistance is delivered through UN agencies and NGOs to ensure it reaches the Afghan population without benefiting the Taliban

So what probably wound up happening was the NGOs wound up supporting the Taliban. Thanks guys.

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Also also, America lost the war in Afghanistan after 20 years.  Let that sink in.


Actually, Biden ran like a pussy. That has nothing to do with American success or failure, and everything to do with Biden failure. Recall that by January 20, 2021, Trump term ended and Biden term started.
So, while still in 2017, we were doing airstrikes, and still beating the crap out of them, reducing ISIS-K territory by 2/3 and cutting into their drug trade.
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In January 2018, the Taliban were openly active in 70% of the country (being in full control of 14 districts and have an active and open physical presence in a further 263) and IS was more active in the country than ever before. Following recent attacks by the Taliban (including the Kabul ambulance bombing on 27 January) and IS that killed scores of civilians, U.S. president Donald Trump and Afghan officials decided to rule out any talks with the Taliban.[359] However, on 27 February, following an increase in violence, Ghani proposed unconditional peace talks with the Taliban, offering them recognition as a legal political party and the release of the Taliban prisoners. The offer was the most favorable to the Taliban since the war started. It was preceded by months of national consensus building, which found that Afghans overwhelmingly supported a negotiated end to the war.[360][361] Two days earlier, the Taliban had called for talks with the US.[362] On 27 March, a conference of 20 countries in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, backed the Afghan government's peace offer.[363] The Taliban did not publicly respond.
(Except they keep backing out)
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On 25 February 2019, peace talks began between the Taliban and the US in Qatar, with Abdul Ghani Baradar notably present. Peace negotiations had resumed in December. This round of talks resulted in a seven-day partial ceasefire which began on 22 February 2020
They sign a conditional peace deal about exchanging prisoners, but Afghanistan then claims they didn't agree to it. We launch air strikes, and they release 5000+ prisoners. All of this is before 2020 election. So now Biden.

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On 6 March, Ghani expressed that his government would negotiate peace with the Taliban, discussing with them about holding new elections, and forming a government in a democratic manner. On 13 April, the Joe Biden administration in the US announced that it would withdraw its remaining 2,500 troops from Afghanistan by 11 September. The US also reiterated support for the Afghan government regarding a possible Taliban military victory.

The Taliban began its last major offensive on 1 May, culminating in the fall of Kabul, a Taliban victory, and the end of war. In the first three months of the offensive, the Taliban made significant territorial gains in the countryside, increasing the number of districts it controlled from 73 to 223.

On 5 July, the Taliban announced their intention to present a written peace plan to the Afghan Government in August, but as of 13 August, this had not been done. Sources claimed that on 12 August, Abdullah Abdullah, the Chairman of the High Council for National Reconciliation, handed in a plan titled "exiting the crisis" which was shared with the Taliban; it called for the creation of a "joint government."

The Taliban gained control of various towns throughout June and July. On 6 August, they captured the first provincial capital of Zaranj. Over the next ten days, they swept across the country, capturing capital after capital. On 14 August, Mazar-i-Sharif was captured as commanders Rashid Dostum and Atta Nur fled across the border to Uzbekistan, cutting Kabul's vital northern supply route.

On 15 August, Jalalabad fell, cutting the only remaining international route through the Khyber Pass. By noon, Taliban forces advanced from the Paghman district reaching the gates of Kabul; Ghani discussed the city's protection with security ministers, while sources claimed a unity peace agreement with the Taliban was imminent. However, Ghani was unable to reach top officials in the interior and defense ministries, and several high-profile politicians had already hurried to the airport. By 2 p.m., the Taliban had entered the city facing no resistance; the president soon fled by helicopter from the Presidential Palace, and within hours, Taliban fighters were pictured at Ghani's desk in the palace. With the virtual collapse of the republic, the war was declared over by the Taliban on the same day.
So within one year, this asshole idiot manages to completely reverse US success, and flees like a little girl.
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I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.  The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26615 on: May 11, 2026, 11:45:45 AM »
Translation of bulma's post: America is on a holy jihad to slay the infidels.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26616 on: May 11, 2026, 11:55:20 AM »
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But I guess since America is losing its status as a super power and crashing, God must have wanted America to be destroyed and thus, put Trump in power.

Judges 7
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1Early in the morning Jerubbaala (that is, Gideon) and all the men with him camped beside the spring of Harod. And the camp of Midian was north of them in the valley near the hill of Moreh.

2Then the LORD said to Gideon, “You have too many men for Me to deliver Midian into their hands, lest Israel glorify themselves over Me, saying, ‘My own hand has saved me.’ 3Now, therefore, proclaim in the hearing of the men: ‘Whoever is fearful and trembling may turn back and leave Mount Gilead.’”

So twenty-two thousand of them turned back, but ten thousand remained.

4Then the LORD said to Gideon, “There are still too many men. Take them down to the water, and I will sift them for you there. If I say to you, ‘This one shall go with you,’ he shall go. But if I say, ‘This one shall not go with you,’ he shall not go.”

5So Gideon brought the men down to the water, and the LORD said to him, “Separate those who lap the water with their tongues like a dog from those who kneel to drink.” 6And the number of those who lapped the water with their hands to their mouths was three hundred men; all the others knelt to drink.

7Then the LORD said to Gideon, “With the three hundred men who lapped the water I will save you and deliver the Midianites into your hand. But all the others are to go home.”

If the Lord is on the side of Israel and America, the numbers of troops nor weapons make us a superpower. What makes us a superpower is the protection of God against our godless shithead enemies.

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Also, The EU was in Afghanistan.
You were doing your nails?

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The EU has focused on providing humanitarian aid and support for basic needs and livelihoods in Afghanistan, especially since the Taliban took power in 2021. Development cooperation is currently suspended, and all assistance is delivered through UN agencies and NGOs to ensure it reaches the Afghan population without benefiting the Taliban

So what probably wound up happening was the NGOs wound up supporting the Taliban. Thanks guys.

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Also also, America lost the war in Afghanistan after 20 years.  Let that sink in.


Actually, Biden ran like a pussy. That has nothing to do with American success or failure, and everything to do with Biden failure. Recall that by January 20, 2021, Trump term ended and Biden term started.
So, while still in 2017, we were doing airstrikes, and still beating the crap out of them, reducing ISIS-K territory by 2/3 and cutting into their drug trade.
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In January 2018, the Taliban were openly active in 70% of the country (being in full control of 14 districts and have an active and open physical presence in a further 263) and IS was more active in the country than ever before. Following recent attacks by the Taliban (including the Kabul ambulance bombing on 27 January) and IS that killed scores of civilians, U.S. president Donald Trump and Afghan officials decided to rule out any talks with the Taliban.[359] However, on 27 February, following an increase in violence, Ghani proposed unconditional peace talks with the Taliban, offering them recognition as a legal political party and the release of the Taliban prisoners. The offer was the most favorable to the Taliban since the war started. It was preceded by months of national consensus building, which found that Afghans overwhelmingly supported a negotiated end to the war.[360][361] Two days earlier, the Taliban had called for talks with the US.[362] On 27 March, a conference of 20 countries in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, backed the Afghan government's peace offer.[363] The Taliban did not publicly respond.
(Except they keep backing out)
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On 25 February 2019, peace talks began between the Taliban and the US in Qatar, with Abdul Ghani Baradar notably present. Peace negotiations had resumed in December. This round of talks resulted in a seven-day partial ceasefire which began on 22 February 2020
They sign a conditional peace deal about exchanging prisoners, but Afghanistan then claims they didn't agree to it. We launch air strikes, and they release 5000+ prisoners. All of this is before 2020 election. So now Biden.

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On 6 March, Ghani expressed that his government would negotiate peace with the Taliban, discussing with them about holding new elections, and forming a government in a democratic manner. On 13 April, the Joe Biden administration in the US announced that it would withdraw its remaining 2,500 troops from Afghanistan by 11 September. The US also reiterated support for the Afghan government regarding a possible Taliban military victory.

The Taliban began its last major offensive on 1 May, culminating in the fall of Kabul, a Taliban victory, and the end of war. In the first three months of the offensive, the Taliban made significant territorial gains in the countryside, increasing the number of districts it controlled from 73 to 223.

On 5 July, the Taliban announced their intention to present a written peace plan to the Afghan Government in August, but as of 13 August, this had not been done. Sources claimed that on 12 August, Abdullah Abdullah, the Chairman of the High Council for National Reconciliation, handed in a plan titled "exiting the crisis" which was shared with the Taliban; it called for the creation of a "joint government."

The Taliban gained control of various towns throughout June and July. On 6 August, they captured the first provincial capital of Zaranj. Over the next ten days, they swept across the country, capturing capital after capital. On 14 August, Mazar-i-Sharif was captured as commanders Rashid Dostum and Atta Nur fled across the border to Uzbekistan, cutting Kabul's vital northern supply route.

On 15 August, Jalalabad fell, cutting the only remaining international route through the Khyber Pass. By noon, Taliban forces advanced from the Paghman district reaching the gates of Kabul; Ghani discussed the city's protection with security ministers, while sources claimed a unity peace agreement with the Taliban was imminent. However, Ghani was unable to reach top officials in the interior and defense ministries, and several high-profile politicians had already hurried to the airport. By 2 p.m., the Taliban had entered the city facing no resistance; the president soon fled by helicopter from the Presidential Palace, and within hours, Taliban fighters were pictured at Ghani's desk in the palace. With the virtual collapse of the republic, the war was declared over by the Taliban on the same day.
So within one year, this asshole idiot manages to completely reverse US success, and flees like a little girl.
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I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.  The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

God doesn't even stop mass shootings in churches.  What makes you think he does anything in war?

Also, please inform me whom negotiated the leave date of the American forces in Afghanistan?  Who set it?
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26617 on: May 11, 2026, 02:03:55 PM »
Why should he stop mass shootings in churches?

Do you believe only in this world? Oh wait, yes you do. So despite the atheist claim that their are perfectly content with dying because you know there is nothing after it, this is a lie. A person to whom there is no Afterlife can be frightened by crisis, because they believe murder is able to overturn life. Oh sure, they forever tell us that they should not be afraid, because they know there's no Afterlife, and therefore nothing bad will happen after their death. But the fear is not about Hell. It never was. It is about coming into the world, having not lived your potential, and now someone wants to horribly cut your life short, the sense of extinction. As for the Christian or Jew, it's not about Hell either. It's about "What if I'm wrong?" (Even so, God is more than my doubt)

So are they wrong? Why does God not stop shootings, if he is all powerful?
Well, first. How would have stop a shooting? Give the man a heart attack? Except the shooter is in significantly more pain than the shootees. Also, you'd suspend the universe. Showing everyone the power of God? You'd take away free will. Even something like making a force field would make it that people watching would have their free will affected.

What does happen is that people survive shootings. At least three people have be known to have survived being shot nine times or more. 

But even the survival of such shootings is not strictly necessary. Think on this passage.
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Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
And this one.
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And do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the spirit. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both spirit and body.  Are not two sparrows sold for an assarion?  Not one of them falls on the ground apart from your Father's will,  but the very hairs of your head are all numbered.  Therefore do not be afraid. You are of more value than many sparrows. 
If God's kingdom is of the world beyond (it is), then nothing a violent man can do to thwart God's salvation, and the idea that God needs to save them is to declare that unless God does something, the people who follow him are doomed. As if the murderer is more powerful than God. Therefore, the Lord only spares from death those who continue to need to be alive (a message to bring to the world, not ready for death, etc).

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Also, please inform me whom negotiated the leave date of the American forces in Afghanistan?  Who set it?

Was it Trump? Dunno. Who followed through? Biden. The point.

Here's a question for you. What is the difference from quietly and resolutely exiting a movie theater with other people, and screaming and running out, as though there is a fire?  Yes, it makes a difference how you withdraw.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26618 on: May 11, 2026, 03:55:18 PM »
If you die from a mass shooting in a church you instantly go to heaven.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26619 on: May 11, 2026, 03:59:08 PM »
If you die from a mass shooting in a church you instantly go to heaven.

Ah, I do believe it has to be in a Mormon temple.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26620 on: May 12, 2026, 12:27:41 AM »
Why should he stop mass shootings in churches?

Do you believe only in this world? Oh wait, yes you do. So despite the atheist claim that their are perfectly content with dying because you know there is nothing after it, this is a lie. A person to whom there is no Afterlife can be frightened by crisis, because they believe murder is able to overturn life. Oh sure, they forever tell us that they should not be afraid, because they know there's no Afterlife, and therefore nothing bad will happen after their death. But the fear is not about Hell. It never was. It is about coming into the world, having not lived your potential, and now someone wants to horribly cut your life short, the sense of extinction. As for the Christian or Jew, it's not about Hell either. It's about "What if I'm wrong?" (Even so, God is more than my doubt)
Emotion is rarely logical.
I fear wasps.  It doesn't make sense as they can't seriously hurt me or kill me without a swarm, but I fear them anyway.  Fear of dying is the result of millions of years of evolution hardwiring it in our brains.  Me, personally, I do not fear death; I fear what leads to it.  Plus I fear what becomes of my family after without me to help. 
Also note: suicide is against you religion for a reason.  If it wasn't, there would be no reason to not just hop into God's world via gunshot.

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So are they wrong? Why does God not stop shootings, if he is all powerful?
Well, first. How would have stop a shooting? Give the man a heart attack? Except the shooter is in significantly more pain than the shootees. Also, you'd suspend the universe. Showing everyone the power of God? You'd take away free will. Even something like making a force field would make it that people watching would have their free will affected.

What does happen is that people survive shootings. At least three people have be known to have survived being shot nine times or more. 

But even the survival of such shootings is not strictly necessary. Think on this passage.
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Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
And this one.
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And do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the spirit. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both spirit and body.  Are not two sparrows sold for an assarion?  Not one of them falls on the ground apart from your Father's will,  but the very hairs of your head are all numbered.  Therefore do not be afraid. You are of more value than many sparrows. 
If God's kingdom is of the world beyond (it is), then nothing a violent man can do to thwart God's salvation, and the idea that God needs to save them is to declare that unless God does something, the people who follow him are doomed. As if the murderer is more powerful than God. Therefore, the Lord only spares from death those who continue to need to be alive (a message to bring to the world, not ready for death, etc).
Therefore, by your own arguments, God will not help the USA in war.  Just like he won't help his own worshipers in his own church.

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Also, please inform me whom negotiated the leave date of the American forces in Afghanistan?  Who set it?

Was it Trump? Dunno. Who followed through? Biden. The point.
Dunno?  Seriously?  Yes, it was Trump.  The agreement was made by Trump.  The deadline was made by Trump.
If an architect draws up plans for a bridge, the builders then build the bridge exactly as drawn, then the bridge falls down in a week... Whose fault is it?  The architect or the builder who followed the plan?

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Here's a question for you. What is the difference from quietly and resolutely exiting a movie theater with other people, and screaming and running out, as though there is a fire?  Yes, it makes a difference how you withdraw.
Counter point:
What's the difference between "you have 10 minutes to evacuate" and "you have 30 seconds to evacuate"?
Panic.
Trump gave Biden an unrealistic timeline to withdrawal.  Pure and simple.  If you wanna argue that Biden should have ignored the agreement and just withdrawn as long as he felt it should take, well... That's kinda a Trump move to ignore deals.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26621 on: May 12, 2026, 12:34:07 AM »

Dunno?  Seriously?  Yes, it was Trump.  The agreement was made by Trump.  The deadline was made by Trump.

So Trump selected the wrong date. If he had selected a different given date the withdrawal would have been a success. Am I understanding you correctly so far?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26622 on: May 12, 2026, 12:59:09 AM »

Dunno?  Seriously?  Yes, it was Trump.  The agreement was made by Trump.  The deadline was made by Trump.

So Trump selected the wrong date. If he had selected a different given date the withdrawal would have been a success. Am I understanding you correctly so far?

Kinda, yeah.  If he added a few more months, it would have gone smoother.

Of course, the results of the Taliban taking over would have been the same.  But thats because Trump made alot of deals with them.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26623 on: May 12, 2026, 01:11:38 AM »

Kinda, yeah.  If he added a few more months, it would have gone smoother.

Of course, the results of the Taliban taking over would have been the same.  But thats because Trump made alot of deals with them.

The Bidenistas had 7 months to prepare for the date of withdrawal, which you are saying was too short. How many months are actually required for the US government and military to implement a successful withdrawal from a situation like Afghanistan?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26624 on: May 12, 2026, 01:49:09 AM »
Wrong date? No, it was the wrong man.

Literally anyone else could have the US leave after securing Taliban surrender, which they were willing to do on March 6.
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On 6 March, Ghani expressed that his government would negotiate peace with the Taliban, discussing with them about holding new elections, and forming a government in a democratic manner.

Oh wait, no I was wrong. Biden initiated terms of retreat.
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On 13 April, the Joe Biden administration in the US announced that it would withdraw its remaining 2,500 troops from Afghanistan by 11 September.

And then like a gutless coward, he left even earlier, leaving alot of people in the lurch.

Trump didn't give Biden an unrealistic time. Biden set a time, then beat his own record when things seemed to be going bad. Stumbling old man. Not a leader.

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Therefore, by your own arguments, God will not help the USA in war.  Just like he won't help his own worshipers in his own church.
In war, God often does help. Because in the heat of battle, the long odds are expected. 300 men vs 135,000 Midianites? God protected these in battle since they had weapons. Unarmed people who were "in the world but not of the world" and just fine being martyrs? Most of them wouldn't even survive, except that one guy who said in his heart "Who will bury these people? Who will continue the mission of this church?" Most of them decide the earthly mission of the church doesn't matter that much.
Will to live is what God considers. When wise predicted I would die, I lived past that date. I could die tomorrow or the next day or sometime next week, as long as it's a day he didn't predict.
Lastly, some people do survive church shootings because church members put themselves at risk to distract the shooter so others escape.
The Lord is not omnipotent, but "amipotent." The Lord acts through people, through love. If you want a miracle to happen, it has to happen through you.

You fight in battle, you save church members, you dig a well for  people in Africa or Asia or South America. The Lord does amazing things, like building this world, making natural disasters to keep life vital and varied. For example, "Why did God kill those people by volcano? How could he let that happen?" To which I say, "Were they living directly under the volcano? Bound to happen. But look at the good that volcano did! Thousands of plants sprung up, and animals now came to pollinate and forage than land." What about that guy who led these retarded people (they gotta be, building their houses that close) to safety?
Even hateful people who defy God wind up doing his will. This is known as the "charity of the wicked." I asked the internet about whether any good comes as a result of a church shooting.
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After a church shooting, communities often come together to support victims and their families, fostering a sense of solidarity and resilience.
They also talked about gun control, but to me, that was the source of the church not being able to defend itself. More rational measures are concealed carry among members.
The charity of the wicked often shows up in companies that do the right thing (e.g. helping feed the hungry) for a terrible reason.
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Here are concise examples of “charity of the wicked” — doing good acts for bad or self-serving reasons — across historical, literary, and everyday contexts:

Giving to charity to buy political favor or votes.
Philanthropy used to launder reputation after committing crimes (e.g., donating to hospitals to distract from harmful business practices).
Donating to conservative causes to gain tax benefits while continuing harmful activities.
Funding arts or museums to secure social prestige and influence, not genuine support for culture.
Building parks or community centers on land grabbed from marginalized people to greenwash displacement.
Publicized disaster relief provided mainly as marketing to sell products or services.
A corporation sponsoring environmental programs while lobbying to block environmental regulation.
A wealthy person endowing scholarships to control admissions or push an ideological agenda.
An employer providing minimal workplace benefits mainly to prevent unionization or bad press.
A social media influencer promoting a charity campaign to boost follower counts and brand deals, not because they care.
In literature: characters who perform magnanimous acts to manipulate others’ perceptions (e.g., a villain gifting to the poor to appear benevolent).
In religious hypocrisy: leaders who preach charity but exploit or extort followers, then perform public alms-giving for show.
It's actually quite hilarious how God can use the perverse motivation of humans to do great good in this world. "If you, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts..."
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If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26625 on: May 12, 2026, 03:14:41 AM »

Kinda, yeah.  If he added a few more months, it would have gone smoother.

Of course, the results of the Taliban taking over would have been the same.  But thats because Trump made alot of deals with them.

The Bidenistas had 7 months to prepare for the date of withdrawal, which you are saying was too short. How many months are actually required for the US government and military to implement a successful withdrawal from a situation like Afghanistan?

I am apparently wrong.
The original agreement was 14 months from the day Trump started, which was in 2020.
The actual signed date for total withdrawal was April 21, 2021.
So Biden had 3 months to do it. Trump should have started in February of 2020.  Yet somehow we still had alot of shit move by the time Biden took over.  Weird, huh?

Probably didn't help that Trump agreed to have 4,400 troops gone by July 2020 thus reducing Manpower for the move.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26626 on: May 12, 2026, 03:22:24 AM »
Wrong date? No, it was the wrong man.

Literally anyone else could have the US leave after securing Taliban surrender, which they were willing to do on March 6.
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On 6 March, Ghani expressed that his government would negotiate peace with the Taliban, discussing with them about holding new elections, and forming a government in a democratic manner.

Oh wait, no I was wrong. Biden initiated terms of retreat.
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On 13 April, the Joe Biden administration in the US announced that it would withdraw its remaining 2,500 troops from Afghanistan by 11 September.

And then like a gutless coward, he left even earlier, leaving alot of people in the lurch.

Trump didn't give Biden an unrealistic time. Biden set a time, then beat his own record when things seemed to be going bad. Stumbling old man. Not a leader.

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Therefore, by your own arguments, God will not help the USA in war.  Just like he won't help his own worshipers in his own church.
In war, God often does help. Because in the heat of battle, the long odds are expected. 300 men vs 135,000 Midianites? God protected these in battle since they had weapons. Unarmed people who were "in the world but not of the world" and just fine being martyrs? Most of them wouldn't even survive, except that one guy who said in his heart "Who will bury these people? Who will continue the mission of this church?" Most of them decide the earthly mission of the church doesn't matter that much.
Will to live is what God considers. When wise predicted I would die, I lived past that date. I could die tomorrow or the next day or sometime next week, as long as it's a day he didn't predict.
Lastly, some people do survive church shootings because church members put themselves at risk to distract the shooter so others escape.
The Lord is not omnipotent, but "amipotent." The Lord acts through people, through love. If you want a miracle to happen, it has to happen through you.

You fight in battle, you save church members, you dig a well for  people in Africa or Asia or South America. The Lord does amazing things, like building this world, making natural disasters to keep life vital and varied. For example, "Why did God kill those people by volcano? How could he let that happen?" To which I say, "Were they living directly under the volcano? Bound to happen. But look at the good that volcano did! Thousands of plants sprung up, and animals now came to pollinate and forage than land." What about that guy who led these retarded people (they gotta be, building their houses that close) to safety?
Even hateful people who defy God wind up doing his will. This is known as the "charity of the wicked." I asked the internet about whether any good comes as a result of a church shooting.
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After a church shooting, communities often come together to support victims and their families, fostering a sense of solidarity and resilience.
They also talked about gun control, but to me, that was the source of the church not being able to defend itself. More rational measures are concealed carry among members.
The charity of the wicked often shows up in companies that do the right thing (e.g. helping feed the hungry) for a terrible reason.
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Here are concise examples of “charity of the wicked” — doing good acts for bad or self-serving reasons — across historical, literary, and everyday contexts:

Giving to charity to buy political favor or votes.
Philanthropy used to launder reputation after committing crimes (e.g., donating to hospitals to distract from harmful business practices).
Donating to conservative causes to gain tax benefits while continuing harmful activities.
Funding arts or museums to secure social prestige and influence, not genuine support for culture.
Building parks or community centers on land grabbed from marginalized people to greenwash displacement.
Publicized disaster relief provided mainly as marketing to sell products or services.
A corporation sponsoring environmental programs while lobbying to block environmental regulation.
A wealthy person endowing scholarships to control admissions or push an ideological agenda.
An employer providing minimal workplace benefits mainly to prevent unionization or bad press.
A social media influencer promoting a charity campaign to boost follower counts and brand deals, not because they care.
In literature: characters who perform magnanimous acts to manipulate others’ perceptions (e.g., a villain gifting to the poor to appear benevolent).
In religious hypocrisy: leaders who preach charity but exploit or extort followers, then perform public alms-giving for show.
It's actually quite hilarious how God can use the perverse motivation of humans to do great good in this world. "If you, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts..."

Nope, try again.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/us-taliban-peace-deal-agreement-afghanistan-war

"Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months."

14 months from February of 2020 is april of 2020.

Biden was basically saying, weeks before the deadline, that he's extending it.  Because he has to.  Because Trump didn't do shit for 12 months.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26627 on: May 12, 2026, 09:25:13 AM »

Kinda, yeah.  If he added a few more months, it would have gone smoother.

Of course, the results of the Taliban taking over would have been the same.  But thats because Trump made alot of deals with them.

The Bidenistas had 7 months to prepare for the date of withdrawal, which you are saying was too short. How many months are actually required for the US government and military to implement a successful withdrawal from a situation like Afghanistan?

I am apparently wrong.
The original agreement was 14 months from the day Trump started, which was in 2020.
The actual signed date for total withdrawal was April 21, 2021.
So Biden had 3 months to do it. Trump should have started in February of 2020.  Yet somehow we still had alot of shit move by the time Biden took over.  Weird, huh?

Probably didn't help that Trump agreed to have 4,400 troops gone by July 2020 thus reducing Manpower for the move.

Oh give it up.

You have already admitted the Bidenistas weren't following Trump's schedule.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26628 on: May 12, 2026, 09:52:28 AM »
When will you give up?

Trunps logistical implementation of his northkorean style parade goss to show you how good he is at planning.

Look at thus WH, unfunded, unpermitted, unapproved, undesigned!
He asked chatgpt to draw him a ballroom and walked around as if it were a proper archtectural design.

Scott jennings level nonsense

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26629 on: May 12, 2026, 10:18:09 AM »

Kinda, yeah.  If he added a few more months, it would have gone smoother.

Of course, the results of the Taliban taking over would have been the same.  But thats because Trump made alot of deals with them.

The Bidenistas had 7 months to prepare for the date of withdrawal, which you are saying was too short. How many months are actually required for the US government and military to implement a successful withdrawal from a situation like Afghanistan?

I am apparently wrong.
The original agreement was 14 months from the day Trump started, which was in 2020.
The actual signed date for total withdrawal was April 21, 2021.
So Biden had 3 months to do it. Trump should have started in February of 2020.  Yet somehow we still had alot of shit move by the time Biden took over.  Weird, huh?

Probably didn't help that Trump agreed to have 4,400 troops gone by July 2020 thus reducing Manpower for the move.

Oh give it up.

You have already admitted the Bidenistas weren't following Trump's schedule.
Yep.  I was wrong there.
So... How much do you think was left to remove on January 20, 2021?
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26630 on: May 12, 2026, 10:30:16 AM »
Probably a lot

No transition team coordination.
Solely focused on impeachment for attempted insurrection.



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26631 on: May 12, 2026, 10:44:19 AM »
Look at thus WH, unfunded, unpermitted, unapproved, undesigned!
He asked chatgpt to draw him a ballroom and walked around as if it were a proper archtectural design.
Well, at least JD will have a nice place to throw his 4th of July BBQ and kegger.
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disputeone

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26632 on: May 12, 2026, 04:10:56 PM »
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2054262313788768765
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Trump on Iran War:

Reporter: What extent are Americans’ financial situation motivating you to make a deal?

Trump: Not even a little bit. I don't think about Americans’ financial situation
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26633 on: May 13, 2026, 04:35:17 AM »
Look at thus WH, unfunded, unpermitted, unapproved, undesigned!
He asked chatgpt to draw him a ballroom and walked around as if it were a proper archtectural design.
Well, at least JD will have a nice place to throw his 4th of July BBQ and kegger.


The leadership team does like beer
















My favourite

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26634 on: May 13, 2026, 05:01:17 AM »
First one is a faker, who didn't throw a real axe (note the bouncing off harmlessly, instead of armlessly)

Second is an AI reading. Those stories are usually fake, like so.


Third is freaking wrestling.

Is the common theme here deepfake?
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JimmyTheLobster

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26635 on: May 13, 2026, 06:17:21 AM »
If you die from a mass shooting in a church you instantly go to heaven.
To Valhalla, according to Kash "money" Patel.  Where you can swig personalised bourbon with the gods!
"I'm not entirely sure who this guy is, but JimmyTheLobster is clearly a genius.  Probably one of the smartest arthropods  of his generation." - JimmyTheCrab

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Space Cowgirl

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26636 on: May 13, 2026, 07:03:04 AM »
If you die from a mass shooting in a church you instantly go to heaven.
To Valhalla, according to Kash "money" Patel.  Where you can swig personalised bourbon with the gods!

We should all start going to church again.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26637 on: May 13, 2026, 02:08:06 PM »
First one is a faker, who didn't throw a real axe (note the bouncing off harmlessly, instead of armlessly)

Second is an AI reading. Those stories are usually fake, like so.


Third is freaking wrestling.

Is the common theme here deepfake?


riiight.
it just made a metalic clank as it hit the ground because that's how fake metal sounds.
and he clutched his arm because it didN"T hurt.


i just grabbed the shortest kash video of the moment.
but it's not like the source video didn't already exist.


so as deep and fake as you hope it is.
nothing can defeat trump
he is god.

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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26638 on: May 13, 2026, 05:31:13 PM »
If you die from a mass shooting in a church you instantly go to heaven.
To Valhalla, according to Kash "money" Patel.  Where you can swig personalised bourbon with the gods!

We should all start going to church again.

Whether you go to church or long for beer in Valhalla, the Lord treats you equally. Pretty sure you're not gonna meet any gods tho. That bourbon, I can't see why not, but your body probably won't need it anymore.

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riiight.
it just made a metalic clank as it hit the ground because that's how fake metal sounds.
and he clutched his arm because it didN"T hurt.

I never said it wasn't metal. Just that it (1) wasn't sharp, and (2) he didn't "accidentally" throw it. It was propaganda.

I could throw a wrench at your arm, and you'd clutch it. Or I could throw a sharpened axe at your arm, and the business end would sever the thing.
If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #26639 on: May 13, 2026, 06:03:49 PM »
what fucking utter nonsense in dancing around semantics.
you called it fake.
you called it AI deepfake.
as if people before him weren't throwing real things.
as if people didn't get hurt.
and now a rewrite.

pathetic, dishonest, bullshit.


recorded history is easily referrenceable.
amazing...
no wonder trump can tell you one day one thing, and then next day lie to your face that it never happened.
gas prices are up, as opposed to when biden was incharge they were down...



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I never said it wasn't metal. Just that it (1) wasn't sharp, and (2) he didn't "accidentally" throw it. It was propaganda.
I could throw a wrench at your arm, and you'd clutch it. Or I could throw a sharpened axe at your arm, and the business end would sever the thing.

First one is a faker, who didn't throw a real axe (note the bouncing off harmlessly, instead of armlessly)
Is the common theme here deepfake?





1:00 mark
"i am thankful to God that the double sided blade only hit broadside on the outer elbow with significant impact and a couple of cuts."




this has less to do with an accident and more to do with your mental bullshit gymnastics.
people go to space - liars
vidoe of space - cgi
trump lying - deepfake
trump witnessesed lying - denial

like seriously
is anything real?

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