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Why do you support donald trump

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Pezevenk

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23850 on: January 18, 2025, 07:09:58 AM »
So, when does the madness start? When does the bewigged pumpkin briefly reign alongside the waxy faced ketamine junky before they trip over their egos and fall out, and what will that mean for Greenland and the Panama Canal?

Will more of your military break under the strain and attack their own or is the whole country on the brink of a misinformation implosion fueled by Chinese tiktok algorithms and X sacking of its overseers?

Is the overmedication and intoxication of your populace to opioids and the ever increasing waistlines due to corn-syrup addiction an attempt to make you slower and easier to hit by drones piloted by Ritalin dosed teens thinking they are playing FPV Kamikaze drone on Steam, or is it just to sell the drugs and make you less likely to be whisked away by the fossil fueled induced climate change winds?

Well Trump is one step away from making open threats of invasion to allied countries. That's certainly a new one.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23851 on: January 18, 2025, 09:13:40 AM »
So, when does the madness start? When does the bewigged pumpkin briefly reign alongside the waxy faced ketamine junky before they trip over their egos and fall out, and what will that mean for Greenland and the Panama Canal?

Will more of your military break under the strain and attack their own or is the whole country on the brink of a misinformation implosion fueled by Chinese tiktok algorithms and X sacking of its overseers?

Is the overmedication and intoxication of your populace to opioids and the ever increasing waistlines due to corn-syrup addiction an attempt to make you slower and easier to hit by drones piloted by Ritalin dosed teens thinking they are playing FPV Kamikaze drone on Steam, or is it just to sell the drugs and make you less likely to be whisked away by the fossil fueled induced climate change winds?

Well Trump is one step away from making open threats of invasion to allied countries. That's certainly a new one.
One step away?  Pretty sure he made that step a while ago.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23852 on: January 20, 2025, 12:27:23 PM »
I don't know how to put it better!

Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23853 on: January 21, 2025, 11:12:44 AM »
This topic seems oddly quiet.

Is everyone just holding their breath and hoping for the best?

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23854 on: January 21, 2025, 11:14:05 AM »
Trump issued a sweeping about of EOs, memos, and stuff on letterhead.

Including undoing (or trying to) the 14th amendment and 140 years of settled law.
It's not gonna be upheld.  Hopefully. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23855 on: January 21, 2025, 12:24:28 PM »
JUST AGREEE

see you later baron and melania.
gaaaahahah
tomi stupid face lahren gots to go too
who else?
git'm all out.
elon and his spawn can GTFO
he don't pay taxes anyways

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23856 on: January 21, 2025, 12:37:24 PM »
This topic seems oddly quiet.

Is everyone just holding their breath and hoping for the best?

Shock I think, imagine turning up for school and the supply teacher is Pennywise.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23857 on: January 21, 2025, 02:31:17 PM »
No
Maga needs to fafo some more

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23858 on: January 22, 2025, 05:26:56 AM »
Any thoughts on how much time Trump spends playing golf this time around? 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23859 on: January 22, 2025, 06:21:18 AM »
Any thoughts on how much time Trump spends playing golf this time around?
Probably 25%.  Maybe 30%
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23860 on: January 25, 2025, 06:41:30 AM »
https://people.com/congressman-proposes-constitutional-amendment-trump-three-terms-8779691

It's never gonna happen but also look at the language.

"nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms"
This would block Obama.  Beyond that there's no reason for it.  So, even for a show bill, they fear Obama.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23861 on: January 25, 2025, 07:35:50 AM »
Project 2025 off to an early start:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-fires-inspectors-general-b2686265.html

“Trump derangement syndrome” was nothing but the right gaslighting the American public into ignoring the obvious warnings. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23862 on: January 25, 2025, 08:02:33 AM »
Go maga go!

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23863 on: January 28, 2025, 01:21:01 AM »
Man, Trump has already done some real zingers.

He pardoned people who beat and neck taxes cops, he's pued out of two commitments, he's continued to piss off several countries, oh and his solution to the Gaza Palestinian problem is to just clean it out.  Move all the Palestinians out of Gaza to Jordan or Egypt.

Because that's the way it was done in the past.  You know, like the Indians.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23864 on: January 28, 2025, 01:34:35 PM »
Maybe not joking when he said Gaza would make for good beachfront property then. 

Was everyone just so used to Trump talking shit, they didn’t believe he’d do the shit he talked about?

Trump had more red flags than a soviet era ICMB parade through Moscow.  Any one of dozens of things should have been the end of him.  But no, everyone was on about Biden being too old and Harris not being personable enough.  Sigh.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23865 on: January 28, 2025, 02:34:51 PM »
Trump issued a sweeping about of EOs, memos, and stuff on letterhead.

Including undoing (or trying to) the 14th amendment and 140 years of settled law.
It's not gonna be upheld.  Hopefully.

Fun fact. Neither the 14th nor 16th amendment were properly ratified. The 14th was ratified under duress (which in contract law, invalidates most agreements) as unless the states accepted it, they basically had no rights. And the 16th amendment was supposedly ratified but it was done so under fraudulent means.
https://michaelruark.wordpress.com/2020/09/12/states-did-not-legally-ratify-the-16th-amendment/
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In Kentucky, the legislature acted on the amendment without even having received it from the governor (the governor of each state was to transmit the proposed amendment to the state legislature). The version of the amendment that the Kentucky legislature made up and acted upon omitted the words “on income” from the text, so they weren’t even voting on an income tax! When they straightened that out (with the help of the governor), the Kentucky senate rejected the amendment. Yet Philander Knox counted Kentucky as approving it!

In Oklahoma, the legislature changed the wording of the amendment so that its meaning was virtually the opposite of what was intended by Congress, and this was the version they sent back to Knox. Yet Knox counted Oklahoma as approving it, despite a memo from his chief legal counsel, Reuben Clark, that states were not allowed to change it in any way.

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If we subtract Kentucky and Oklahoma from the 38 approvals above, the count of valid approvals falls to 36, the exact number needed for ratification. If any more states can be shown to have had invalid approvals, the 16th amendment must be regarded as null and void.

So did it get validated by the full 36? Well...

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The state constitution of Tennessee prohibited the state legislature from acting on any proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution sent by Congress until after the next election of state legislators. The intent, of course, is to give the proposed amendment a chance to become an issue in the state legislative elections so that the people can have a voice in determining the outcome. It also provides a cooling off period to reduce the tendency to approve an idea just because it happens to be the moment’s trend. You’ve probably already guessed that the Tennessee legislature did not hold off on voting for the amendment until after the next election, and you’d be right – they didn’t; hence, they acted upon it illegally before they were authorized to do so. They also violated their own state constitution by failing to read the resolution on three different days as prescribed by Article II, Section 18. These state constitutional violations make their approval of the amendment null and void. Their approval is and was invalid, and it brings the number of approving states down to 35, one less than required for ratification.

Texas and Louisiana violated provisions in their state constitutions prohibiting the legislatures from empowering the federal government with any additional taxing authority. Now the number is down to 33.

Twelve other states, besides Tennessee, violated provisions in their constitutions requiring that a bill be read on three different days before voting on it. This is not a trivial requirement. It allows for a cooling off period; it enables members who may be absent one day to be present on another; it allows for a better familiarity with, and understanding of, the measure under consideration, since some members may not always read a bill or resolution before voting on it (believe it or not!). States violating this procedure were: Mississippi, Ohio, Arkansas, Minnesota, New Mexico, West Virginia, Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Colorado, and Illinois. Now the number is reduced to 21 states legally ratifying the amendment.

When Secretary Knox transmitted the proposed amendment to the states, official certified and sealed copies were sent. Likewise, when state results were returned to Knox, it was required that the documents, including the resolution that was actually approved, be properly certified, signed, and sealed by the appropriate official(s). This is no more than any ordinary citizen has to do in filing any legal document, so that it’s authenticity is assured; otherwise it is not acceptable and is meaningless. How much more important it is to authenticate a constitutional amendment! Yet a number of states did not do this, returning uncertified, unsigned, and/or unsealed copies, and did not rectify their negligence even after being reminded and warned by Knox. The most egregious offenders were Ohio, California, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Minnesota – which did not send any copy at all, so Knox could not have known what they even voted on! Since four of these states were already disqualified above, California is now subtracted from the list of valid approvals, reducing it to 20.

So no, it kinda wasn't. So how did the government fund itself before income taxes? Well, tariffs to a large extent.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23866 on: January 28, 2025, 07:40:49 PM »

who's on 1st?





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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23867 on: January 28, 2025, 07:42:36 PM »
wow spectacular....


do we follow a wordpress self-article or something official?


by bulma's logic, trump won 2020 because opinioned and unsubstantiated fraud?



https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-constitution/14th-amendment.htm#:~:text=Passed%20by%20the%20Senate%20on,laws%2C%E2%80%9D%20extending%20the%20provisions%20of

Passed by the Senate on June 8, 1866, and ratified two years later, on July 9, 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons "born or naturalized in the United States," including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states. The amendment authorized the government to punish states that abridged citizens’ right to vote by proportionally reducing their representation in Congress. It banned those who “engaged in insurrection” against the United States from holding any civil, military, or elected office without the approval of two-thirds of the House and Senate. The amendment prohibited former Confederate states from repaying war debts and compensating former slave owners for the emancipation of their enslaved people. Finally, it granted Congress the power to enforce this amendment, a provision that led to the passage of other landmark legislation in the 20th century, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Congress required former Confederate states to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment as a condition of regaining federal representation.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23868 on: January 28, 2025, 07:51:34 PM »
how did the gov't fund itself?

yet moron gets mad at taxes yet the govt succumbs to big-corp pressure and votes to maintain pre-2000 min wage...

someon can't do math

guess who!!



oh look.
making pvoerty wages while having to pay 12% tax.
12% tax is definitely something unaffordable if you're living below living wages...


guess what spectacular value min wage actually should be if corrected for inflation over last 20yrs?
then ask who really stole from you?
the gov't (YES!)
but noooo not big corp who you love sucking their dick for some reason.



what's the bigger number?
12% or 83%?



at $7.50 x 40hr/wk x 50wk/yr = $15,000.
12% = $1,800 taxes.

at $7.50 x 1.83 x 40 x 50 = $27,450
12% = $3,294 taxes.


take home of $13,200 <> $24,156?
let us know which is better!?

You comomain about losing 1,000$ meanwhile big corp colluded against you to withhd 10,000$ from your annaul.


https://www.irs.gov/filing/federal-income-tax-rates-and-brackets
2024 tax rates for a single taxpayer
For a single taxpayer, the rates are:

Tax rate      on taxable income from . . .   up to . . .
10%         $0                  $11,600
12%         $11,601               $47,150
22%         $47,151               $100,525
24%         $100,526               $191,950
32%         $191,951               $243,725
35%         $243,726               $609,350
37%         $609,351               And up





https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2000?amount=1

$1 in 2000 is worth $1.83 today
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23869 on: January 28, 2025, 08:06:36 PM »
So how did the government fund itself before income taxes?
Excise taxes for the most part.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/tax/10/history-taxes.asp
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23870 on: January 29, 2025, 12:53:04 AM »
So, Trump blocked all funding.
Which he shouldn't be able to do.  And a federal judge stopped enforcement.

Also, he blocked medicare then had to backtrack it because that's how unprepared he was.

Didn't people here argue Biden can't legally block funding Congress has approved?  Guess Trump didn't get the memo.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23871 on: January 29, 2025, 05:37:04 PM »
This is something to expect when you make a bunch of executive order decisions in the first week.

I have two real qualms with his inauguration speech:
1. His thing about AI. Aren't AI cars literally killing people with their awkward design? What this country needs are traditional skills. We don't need more dangerous technology, we need more artisans to make American goods (woodwork, metallurgy, pottery, etc). Particularly kitsch. It's not right that the Chinese now make our tacky crap.
2. I object to the gender vs sex stuff, but only because it is so damned inefficient. I looked at how many forms were needed for the Real ID, and it basically assumes that you are put together human being who happens to have a normal job, an apartment or house, and so on. If you are a loser or basement dweller, you are not allowed to get on a plane and treated like a criminal. And if your birth certificate and other info doesn't match up, God help you if Trump decides to enforce this two sex thing (some documents have a "fraud on documents is a federal crime resulting in arrest" clause). Even without that, I would have to update my passport (that alone costs $130 not counting $10 shipping and $15+ for photo), driver's license, social security, tax stuff, etc. That's a lot of waiting in lines and a lot of money that isn't covered by anyone. And they don't fucking talk to each other! Each bureaucracy is a separate agency.
I actually wrote to Trump, asking him "Look, why not do away with the Real ID, and stop listing sex on IDs? Two factor identification with driver's license and fingerprint scan. The print scan could even contain different info depending on what  scanners are issued to the person." So a medical team might need birth certificate to not place males in an all female ward or to not waste time worrying about whether the patient might have vaginal cancer, while a nightclub only needs to know the address and age of the patron which is listed on the card ID. More importantly, while an illegal immigrant might somehow obtain a driver's license, a quick scan of their prints reveals the truth.

Could that lead to tyranny? Better that than putting up with a very public display of sex/gender on ID. When race isn't allowed on ID, we shouldn't have sex either. The knowledge that the government knows everything about you is a given, but I shouldn't have random ppl that I show ID to know that.  If it needs to be known (e.g. rape clinic) there ought to be no hiding it. When it doesn't need to be known, it should be private. In any case, I think the constant failure of card IDs was gonna eventually lead to RFID chipping humans, and I want to lead away from that. Human beings have a natural God-given identification, and if a society really feels it needs that, better that than other ideas.

I expect Trump to make some mistakes. I expect him to do some awful things in fact, including some ideas I've given him, which I will probably come to dread. But if he is able to merge government agencies and remove corruption and waste, this is a good thing still.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23872 on: January 30, 2025, 12:23:09 AM »
 Trump will also maximize freedom of speech by deporting foreign students who participated in pro-Palestine rallies.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2025/01/29/trump-threatens-to-deport-international-students-who-participated-in-pro-palestinian-protests/

Go America! Go Trump! Go free speech!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23873 on: January 30, 2025, 12:57:52 AM »
This is something to expect when you make a bunch of executive order decisions in the first week.

I have two real qualms with his inauguration speech:
1. His thing about AI. Aren't AI cars literally killing people with their awkward design? What this country needs are traditional skills. We don't need more dangerous technology, we need more artisans to make American goods (woodwork, metallurgy, pottery, etc). Particularly kitsch. It's not right that the Chinese now make our tacky crap.
2. I object to the gender vs sex stuff, but only because it is so damned inefficient. I looked at how many forms were needed for the Real ID, and it basically assumes that you are put together human being who happens to have a normal job, an apartment or house, and so on. If you are a loser or basement dweller, you are not allowed to get on a plane and treated like a criminal. And if your birth certificate and other info doesn't match up, God help you if Trump decides to enforce this two sex thing (some documents have a "fraud on documents is a federal crime resulting in arrest" clause). Even without that, I would have to update my passport (that alone costs $130 not counting $10 shipping and $15+ for photo), driver's license, social security, tax stuff, etc. That's a lot of waiting in lines and a lot of money that isn't covered by anyone. And they don't fucking talk to each other! Each bureaucracy is a separate agency.
I actually wrote to Trump, asking him "Look, why not do away with the Real ID, and stop listing sex on IDs? Two factor identification with driver's license and fingerprint scan. The print scan could even contain different info depending on what  scanners are issued to the person." So a medical team might need birth certificate to not place males in an all female ward or to not waste time worrying about whether the patient might have vaginal cancer, while a nightclub only needs to know the address and age of the patron which is listed on the card ID. More importantly, while an illegal immigrant might somehow obtain a driver's license, a quick scan of their prints reveals the truth.

Could that lead to tyranny? Better that than putting up with a very public display of sex/gender on ID. When race isn't allowed on ID, we shouldn't have sex either. The knowledge that the government knows everything about you is a given, but I shouldn't have random ppl that I show ID to know that.  If it needs to be known (e.g. rape clinic) there ought to be no hiding it. When it doesn't need to be known, it should be private. In any case, I think the constant failure of card IDs was gonna eventually lead to RFID chipping humans, and I want to lead away from that. Human beings have a natural God-given identification, and if a society really feels it needs that, better that than other ideas.

I expect Trump to make some mistakes. I expect him to do some awful things in fact, including some ideas I've given him, which I will probably come to dread. But if he is able to merge government agencies and remove corruption and waste, this is a good thing still.

1. Agreed.  Hate AI everywhere.

2. This is what you voted for.  You voted for the party of 'we hate trans'.  I'm sorry but... Suck it up.  You wanted to be told which bathroom to use.  Which gender to identify as.  And the reason why they won't take gender off is so they know if you're trans and can discriminate against you.

Reap what you sow.


Also, agencies don't share data because it's probably illegal.  Half of America doesn't want the government to know anything and laws have been made to cripple information sharing as much as possible.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23874 on: January 30, 2025, 05:06:33 PM »
Actually, I voted for this guy:



Has anyone seen him lately?

And this last election, I voted for this guy:


I wouldn't mind him either.

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You reap what you sow.

No, I reap what YOU sow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_protests_against_Donald_Trump
Lefties and their asinine protests made the guy decide that trans people in particular are part of the government swamp. So did massive inflation. So these trans rights, rather than just being a few basic rights like right to own a house or find a job without people knowing my gender history, or use the bathroom of my choice... became a huge moral panic about perverts sneaking into restrooms, male prisoners raping women, and quota system to enforce this so-called diversity.

Thanks a fucking lot for Trump's and the public's backlash.

The rights I wanted were a small request, now that's off the table.

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Also, agencies don't share data because it's probably illegal.  Half of America doesn't want the government to know anything and laws have been made to cripple information sharing as much as possible.


And how is that working out? Oh wait, I'll tell you how. If I wanted to comply with Trump and change my sex to male, I would have to go to the IRS, DMV, Social Services, Passport Agency (which btw also includes mail service and some sort of private photography center). And that doesn't include schools and previous jobs. Or... I could contact one location, the DMV. Tell them I want a Two Factor ID. They issue me an ID that has no sex or gender on it, and they scan my prints against a birth certificate. The birth certificate says I am male, I ask if I can have a new picture. I come back in a dress and heels, and they can it again when checking the ID, say "Oh you're (name). Welcome back!"
I would have an ID showing the appearance of my choice, I would have a secondary ID that tells my race, sex, date of birth, and the fact that yes I am an American citizen. This idea instead was bitterly opposed by the woke left in favor of typical government irregulation and corruption, so now if he manages this executive order, you know what type of ID is more likely? One that prominently displays sex so everyone like me gets beaten or killed. 

Thanks a fucking lot. I reaped what YOU sow. I never opposed this guy, you did.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23875 on: January 30, 2025, 09:57:02 PM »
Actually, I voted for this guy:



Has anyone seen him lately?
He never really existed.  Just another lie to get elected.



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You reap what you sow.

No, I reap what YOU sow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_protests_against_Donald_Trump
Lefties and their asinine protests made the guy decide that trans people in particular are part of the government swamp. So did massive inflation. So these trans rights, rather than just being a few basic rights like right to own a house or find a job without people knowing my gender history, or use the bathroom of my choice... became a huge moral panic about perverts sneaking into restrooms, male prisoners raping women, and quota system to enforce this so-called diversity.

Thanks a fucking lot for Trump's and the public's backlash.

The rights I wanted were a small request, now that's off the table.
Holy fuck!  You are incredibly delusional!  Did you not forget the massive backlash and bathroom bills long before Trump?  Conservatives have always hated Trans folk.  Did you really think that if trans folk bowed to Trump and caresses his ego, he'd give you what you want?  And now you're blaming some trans folk protesting against Trump as the reason he won't give you basic rights?  How about almost every other conservative, republican, and MAGA member also hating your existence?  Did y'all protest them too?

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Also, agencies don't share data because it's probably illegal.  Half of America doesn't want the government to know anything and laws have been made to cripple information sharing as much as possible.


And how is that working out? Oh wait, I'll tell you how. If I wanted to comply with Trump and change my sex to male, I would have to go to the IRS, DMV, Social Services, Passport Agency (which btw also includes mail service and some sort of private photography center). And that doesn't include schools and previous jobs. Or... I could contact one location, the DMV. Tell them I want a Two Factor ID. They issue me an ID that has no sex or gender on it, and they scan my prints against a birth certificate. The birth certificate says I am male, I ask if I can have a new picture. I come back in a dress and heels, and they can it again when checking the ID, say "Oh you're (name). Welcome back!"
I would have an ID showing the appearance of my choice, I would have a secondary ID that tells my race, sex, date of birth, and the fact that yes I am an American citizen. This idea instead was bitterly opposed by the woke left in favor of typical government irregulation and corruption, so now if he manages this executive order, you know what type of ID is more likely? One that prominently displays sex so everyone like me gets beaten or killed. 
Oh I'm all for centralized information.  Go blame conservatives for that mess.

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Thanks a fucking lot. I reaped what YOU sow. I never opposed this guy, you did.
So if some people of a group oppose him, he will punish everyone?  That doesn't sound like a very nice guy to me.  Why'd you vote for him, again?
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23876 on: January 31, 2025, 01:00:39 PM »
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Holy fuck!  You are incredibly delusional!  Did you not forget the massive backlash and bathroom bills long before Trump?  Conservatives have always hated Trans folk.  Did you really think that if trans folk bowed to Trump and caresses his ego, he'd give you what you want?

You expect conservatives to not label all liberals as Marxists, but you decide that all conservatives feel that transgender is not a thing. Hmmm, but surely you're not intolerant.

By the way. In terms of bathroom bills, only two were made during Trump's presidency. One was in North Carolina in 2016, and the other was Trump's statement that to receive funding, gender must match sex (repealed in 2017). By contrast (during BIDEN'S presidency) Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, North Dakota, Florida, Utah, Mississippi, and Ohio all signed bathroom bills from 2021 to 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathroom_bill
I am conservative, and I do not hate trans folk. So your statement that conservatives always hate trans folk is untrue.  Further, it isn't even true from a statistical point of view. In 2016, 37% were in favor and 37% opposed bathroom bills. A month later, 57% opposed them.

They change their mind from month to month based on how snotty trans people are being lately.

Yeah. You want bathroom rights? Prove why you deserve them.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23877 on: January 31, 2025, 01:20:21 PM »
there's a difference between your "republicans aren't a monolith" and "this is the party platform".

so you can not agree with the a fellow republican on XYZ view and ABC view.

but you can't escape when the party leaders enact policy that affects XYZ and ABC.
so regardless of your Voter-Base survey, the REPRESENTATIVES of Voters are pushing policy.


and to say "only two made it into law" is ridiculously and laughably unaware of who PREVENTED it from becoming law and who WANTED it to be law.

moron




https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-HEALTHCARE/TRANS-BILLS/zgvorreyapd/

This line represents Texas bill SB 14
Texas governor Greg Abbott on June 2 signed into law SB 14, which bars transgender children under 18 from receiving hormone therapies and puberty blockers. It goes into effect next month.

22 bills passed
Indiana is among the 20 states where legislatures with Republican majorities have banned or restricted gender-affirming care for trans people.



https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/donald-trump/2025

EO 14168:
Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government
Signed:January 20, 2025Published:January 30, 2025FR Citation:90 FR 8615FR Doc. Number:2025-02090 PDF4 pages Permalink
Rescinds: EO 13988, January 20, 2021; EO 14004, January 25, 2021; EO 14021, March 8, 2021; EO 14075, June 15, 2022







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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23878 on: January 31, 2025, 02:38:38 PM »
skipto 9:43 and andrewtoworld will explain


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #23879 on: February 01, 2025, 12:08:13 AM »
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Holy fuck!  You are incredibly delusional!  Did you not forget the massive backlash and bathroom bills long before Trump?  Conservatives have always hated Trans folk.  Did you really think that if trans folk bowed to Trump and caresses his ego, he'd give you what you want?

You expect conservatives to not label all liberals as Marxists, but you decide that all conservatives feel that transgender is not a thing. Hmmm, but surely you're not intolerant.

By the way. In terms of bathroom bills, only two were made during Trump's presidency. One was in North Carolina in 2016, and the other was Trump's statement that to receive funding, gender must match sex (repealed in 2017). By contrast (during BIDEN'S presidency) Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, North Dakota, Florida, Utah, Mississippi, and Ohio all signed bathroom bills from 2021 to 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathroom_bill
I am conservative, and I do not hate trans folk. So your statement that conservatives always hate trans folk is untrue.  Further, it isn't even true from a statistical point of view. In 2016, 37% were in favor and 37% opposed bathroom bills. A month later, 57% opposed them.

They change their mind from month to month based on how snotty trans people are being lately.

Yeah. You want bathroom rights? Prove why you deserve them.
Ok.  Go to a conservative group and announce you're a transgender conservative.  Because so far, every conservative group I've seen has listed trans women as pedophiles. 

As for the polling... Looks like the percentage of republicans with margin of error.

As for why so many bills are enacted under Biden and Obama?  Because they want to show they're against the policy. Biden and Obama was flexible on bathroom use.  Trump was not. So why pass a bill when you don't have to?  This isn't about being nice, it's about basic party platforms.  Basic political philosophies.  And conservatives, by definition, want traditional things.  They want to stay in the past. They want things to not change or not to change much.
Thus, two genders.  Male.  Female.  Men have a penis.  Females have a vagina.  Done. 

But if you don't believe me... Just go to a right wing Facebook group and say "I'm a trans female.  I love Trump but want to use the women's bathroom."

Then tell me how they treat you.


And JUST TO ADD..

Trump's own Executive Order.
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Indeed, the executive order calls it a "false claim that males can identify as and thus become women and vice versa."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/g-s1-45887/trump-opm-gender-ideology-defending-women-websites-transgender

So yeah... if you ever thought Trump ever saw you as anything more than wrong for your lifestyle choice.. you were a fool.
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