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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6300 on: January 26, 2018, 09:29:55 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6301 on: January 26, 2018, 09:33:22 PM »
It's well known that Trump has laundered money for the Russian Mob,  what else have the Russians got on him?  It's just a matter of time before he gets exposed.

We don't know this for sure. It seems likely that he did, but he might not have. Hopefully the Special Counsel puts this question to rest.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6302 on: January 26, 2018, 09:49:32 PM »
What if the Special Council has a conflict of interest?  Should he continue to be on the Special Council?  That was what Trump was discussing, not firing him.

You can't talk any sense into these liberals on Trump, they are still so butt hurt from Hillary screwing up a sure thing.

Just like they said Trump was gonna fire Comey and tried to intimidate him.

How you get that from "I hope he didn't do anything, but you gotta do your job, do what you need to do" is beyond me.

What Trump actually said to Comey was.

Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI. 


You mean, "After he found out that Flynn had lied to the FBI.

Check the timeline.

January 24th Flynn lies to the FBI.
January 25th FBI reports interview to DOJ
January 26th Sally Yates informs White House Cousel Don McGahn about Mike Flynn.
January 27th Sally Yates second visit to White House.
January 30th Sally Yates get fired.  Over immigration?
February 9th Washington Post reports about Flynn talking to Kisylak.
February 13th Flynn Resigns  saying he misled Pence--  not sacked
February 14th Trump asks Comey to let Flynn go.

You think Trump didn't know about what Sally Yates had to say about Flynn? 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6303 on: January 26, 2018, 09:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI.

That is not what Comey said under testimony... He even said that he didn't feel Trump was telling him to stop the investigation.


As for Hillary...I know everything about her, criminal and all. Sources told me and three people close to the matter told me so.

This is enough for the media (when it comes to Trump and the GOP), so my burden of proof is complete.

Time to lock her up
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6304 on: January 26, 2018, 09:51:55 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6305 on: January 26, 2018, 09:58:55 PM »
What if the Special Council has a conflict of interest?  Should he continue to be on the Special Council?  That was what Trump was discussing, not firing him.

You can't talk any sense into these liberals on Trump, they are still so butt hurt from Hillary screwing up a sure thing.

Just like they said Trump was gonna fire Comey and tried to intimidate him.

How you get that from "I hope he didn't do anything, but you gotta do your job, do what you need to do" is beyond me.

What Trump actually said to Comey was.

Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI. 


You mean, "After he found out that Flynn had lied to the FBI.

Check the timeline.

January 24th Flynn lies to the FBI.
January 25th FBI reports interview to DOJ
January 26th Sally Yates informs White House Cousel Don McGahn about Mike Flynn.
January 27th Sally Yates second visit to White House.
January 30th Sally Yates get fired.  Over immigration?
February 9th Washington Post reports about Flynn talking to Kisylak.
February 13th Flynn Resigns  saying he misled Pence--  not sacked
February 14th Trump asks Comey to let Flynn go.

You think Trump didn't know about what Sally Yates had to say about Flynn? 

Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6306 on: January 26, 2018, 10:00:15 PM »
February 14th Trump asks Comey to let Flynn go.

Hold up. That was Valentine's Day. Maybe both Comey and Trump had a thing for Flynn? All this time we thought it was about obstruction... what a silly misunderstanding this has been!

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6307 on: January 26, 2018, 10:04:40 PM »
Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

You seem to be missing the point.   Why did they ignore Sally Yates?


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6308 on: January 26, 2018, 10:06:03 PM »
Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI.

That is not what Comey said under testimony... He even said that he didn't feel Trump was telling him to stop the investigation.


As for Hillary...I know everything about her, criminal and all. Sources told me and three people close to the matter told me so.

This is enough for the media (when it comes to Trump and the GOP), so my burden of proof is complete.

Time to lock her up

Sorry to say you got it wrong,  here's the full transcript read it for yourself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senate-hearing-transcript.html

I'll save you some time

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February 14 meeting
One memo referred to an Oval Office meeting on February 14, 2017, during which Comey says Trump attempted to persuade him to abort the investigation into Michael Flynn.[151][18][153] The meeting had begun as a broader national security briefing, the day after Trump had dismissed Flynn as National Security Advisor. Near the conclusion of the briefing, the President asked those in attendance other than Director Comey to leave the room—including Vice President Pence and Attorney General Sessions. He then reportedly said to Comey "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[18] Comey made no commitments to Trump on the subject.[18]

The White House responded to the allegations by stating that "the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn," and "this is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey."[151]


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6309 on: January 26, 2018, 10:06:17 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?

Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6310 on: January 26, 2018, 10:07:58 PM »
Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

You seem to be missing the point.   Why did they ignore Sally Yates?




Because she has bad breath?  Because she has horrible gas?  Because she parks crooked in the parking lot?  Because nobody trusts a word that comes out of here mouth?  Why are you asking me to speculate?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6311 on: January 26, 2018, 10:11:14 PM »

Sorry to say you got it wrong,  here's the full transcript read it for yourself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senate-hearing-transcript.html



Seriously, narrow it down to the poignant portion.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6312 on: January 26, 2018, 10:11:27 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?

Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment.

We already went down this track, and she did nothing criminal.   
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6313 on: January 26, 2018, 10:12:57 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?

Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment.

We already went down this track, and she did nothing criminal.


Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment is a crime.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6314 on: January 26, 2018, 10:13:43 PM »
Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

You seem to be missing the point.   Why did they ignore Sally Yates?




Because she has bad breath?  Because she has horrible gas?  Because she parks crooked in the parking lot?  Because nobody trusts a word that comes out of here mouth?  Why are you asking me to speculate?

I'm not speculating,  she told the White House about Mike Flynn, weeks before the Washington Post broke the story and Flynn resigned.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6315 on: January 26, 2018, 10:17:15 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?

Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment.

We already went down this track, and she did nothing criminal.


Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment is a crime.

Trading?  that's new.   

In any case I've already had this discussion over the last few pages with jroa,  you are covering old ground.




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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6316 on: January 26, 2018, 10:19:00 PM »
Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

You seem to be missing the point.   Why did they ignore Sally Yates?




Because she has bad breath?  Because she has horrible gas?  Because she parks crooked in the parking lot?  Because nobody trusts a word that comes out of here mouth?  Why are you asking me to speculate?

I'm not speculating,  she told the White House about Mike Flynn, weeks before the Washington Post broke the story and Flynn resigned.

You must admit, you have never taken into consideration that she may have bad breath.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6317 on: January 26, 2018, 10:22:09 PM »
Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI.

That is not what Comey said under testimony... He even said that he didn't feel Trump was telling him to stop the investigation.


As for Hillary...I know everything about her, criminal and all. Sources told me and three people close to the matter told me so.

This is enough for the media (when it comes to Trump and the GOP), so my burden of proof is complete.

Time to lock her up

Sorry to say you got it wrong,  here's the full transcript read it for yourself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senate-hearing-transcript.html

I'll save you some time

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February 14 meeting
One memo referred to an Oval Office meeting on February 14, 2017, during which Comey says Trump attempted to persuade him to abort the investigation into Michael Flynn.[151][18][153] The meeting had begun as a broader national security briefing, the day after Trump had dismissed Flynn as National Security Advisor. Near the conclusion of the briefing, the President asked those in attendance other than Director Comey to leave the room—including Vice President Pence and Attorney General Sessions. He then reportedly said to Comey "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[18] Comey made no commitments to Trump on the subject.[18]

The White House responded to the allegations by stating that "the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn," and "this is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey."[151]


You are quoting a news story...not the transcripts lol. Turn off the TV Rayzor...

Here is you a tid bit, there is more, will find shortly.

BURR: Director Comey, did the president at any time ask you to stop the FBI investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 U.S. Elections?

COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.

BURR: Did any individual working for this administration, including the justice department, ask you to stop the Russian investigation?

COMEY: No.

Pretty self explanatory
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6318 on: January 26, 2018, 10:28:34 PM »
Quote from: Donald Trump
'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.'

Keep in mind he said this when he knew Flynn was lying to the FBI.

That is not what Comey said under testimony... He even said that he didn't feel Trump was telling him to stop the investigation.


As for Hillary...I know everything about her, criminal and all. Sources told me and three people close to the matter told me so.

This is enough for the media (when it comes to Trump and the GOP), so my burden of proof is complete.

Time to lock her up

Sorry to say you got it wrong,  here's the full transcript read it for yourself.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senate-hearing-transcript.html

I'll save you some time

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February 14 meeting
One memo referred to an Oval Office meeting on February 14, 2017, during which Comey says Trump attempted to persuade him to abort the investigation into Michael Flynn.[151][18][153] The meeting had begun as a broader national security briefing, the day after Trump had dismissed Flynn as National Security Advisor. Near the conclusion of the briefing, the President asked those in attendance other than Director Comey to leave the room—including Vice President Pence and Attorney General Sessions. He then reportedly said to Comey "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[18] Comey made no commitments to Trump on the subject.[18]

The White House responded to the allegations by stating that "the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn," and "this is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey."[151]


You are quoting a news story...not the transcripts lol. Turn off the TV Rayzor...

Here is you a tid bit, there is more, will find shortly.

BURR: Director Comey, did the president at any time ask you to stop the FBI investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 U.S. Elections?

COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.

BURR: Did any individual working for this administration, including the justice department, ask you to stop the Russian investigation?

COMEY: No.

Pretty self explanatory

Keep reading,  you'll get there. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6319 on: January 26, 2018, 10:29:35 PM »
Firing someone after you find out they did something wrong is not a bad thing.  In fact, it is the responsible thing to do.  You are trying to make it out that there was a coverup or "collusion" as you leftists like to throw around.  The facts are that Flynn screwed the pouch, and was tossed out for it.  Now, you are trying to narrate some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory out of it.  Have you ever thought that maybe, it is you with the problem?

You seem to be missing the point.   Why did they ignore Sally Yates?




Because she has bad breath?  Because she has horrible gas?  Because she parks crooked in the parking lot?  Because nobody trusts a word that comes out of here mouth?  Why are you asking me to speculate?

I'm not speculating,  she told the White House about Mike Flynn, weeks before the Washington Post broke the story and Flynn resigned.

You must admit, you have never taken into consideration that she may have bad breath.

Lizard cheese burgers have that effect sometimes.  LOL
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6320 on: January 26, 2018, 10:30:16 PM »
RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?

COMEY: Not in his words, no.

RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?

COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.


RISCH: He said, I hope.

COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.

RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?

COMEY: I don't as I sit here.


Just a bit more....now turn off the TV Rayzor or quit lying intentionally​

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6321 on: January 26, 2018, 10:34:33 PM »
RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?

COMEY: Not in his words, no.

RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?

COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.


RISCH: He said, I hope.

COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.

RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?

COMEY: I don't as I sit here.


Just a bit more....now turn off the TV Rayzor or quit lying intentionally​

Whew. That's a pretty conveniently selected portion of the transcript. It's almost like you intentionally left out the most relevant part...

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RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?

COMEY: Not in his words, no.

RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?

COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.

RISCH: He said, I hope. Now, like me, you probably did hundreds of cases, maybe thousands of cases, charging people with criminal offenses and, of course, you have knowledge of the thousands of cases out there where people have been charged. Do you know of any case where a person has been charged for obstruction of justice or, for that matter, any other criminal offense, where they said or thought they hoped for an outcome?

COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.

RISCH: Right.

COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.

RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.

COMEY: Correct.


RISCH: He said, I hope.

COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.

...

I highlighted in red the portion you chose to cut out.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6322 on: January 26, 2018, 10:37:34 PM »
RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?

COMEY: Not in his words, no.

RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?

COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.


RISCH: He said, I hope.

COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.

RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?

COMEY: I don't as I sit here.


Just a bit more....now turn off the TV Rayzor or quit lying intentionally​

Keep reading,  you'll find out what I quoted Trump as saying is correct.  He didn't  "Order" him.   He cornered Comey in a one-on-one meeting as asked him to let Flynn go.

"I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."


Is that an attempt to get Comey to drop the Flynn investigation or not?


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6323 on: January 26, 2018, 10:38:04 PM »
Still no evidence of criminal activity however.

She admitted so.

Ok,  I'll bite what criminal activity did she admit to?

Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment.

We already went down this track, and she did nothing criminal.


Storing and trading classified documents in a non-secure environment is a crime.

Trading?  that's new.   

In any case I've already had this discussion over the last few pages with jroa,  you are covering old ground.

I don't care what discussions you have had with other people.

email is an information trading tool. Don't pretend like you need me to define trade to you.


Incoming and outgoing emails containing classified information were found on her privately owned and operated unsecured server and in the unsecured recipient and senders mail boxes of others who lack the clearance to view the documents.

The law specifically excludes intent in the definition of the crime.



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6324 on: January 26, 2018, 10:40:03 PM »
Totes...Ok and? What context does that add?

Also, he said many times no one told him to stop the investigation to multiple people questioning him.

Also, no one finishes what Trump said, "it's your job, you need to do your job, you need to do what you have to do".

I bet y'all would burn a witch as well huh?


Is that an attempt to get Comey to drop the Flynn investigation or not?


Don't ask me, ask Comey, he said no.

I am missing the point here...y'all need to move to Salem.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6325 on: January 26, 2018, 10:42:30 PM »

I highlighted in red the portion you chose to cut out.

Good catch,  and he accused me of lying.   That's not a good look for the credibility of BHS.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6326 on: January 26, 2018, 10:44:02 PM »
Totes...Ok and? What context does that add?

Don't play dumb.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6327 on: January 26, 2018, 10:52:44 PM »
Totes...Ok and? What context does that add?

Don't play dumb.

Trump just felt so bad for poor Flynn. He was also angry at Comey because he was mean to Hillary. That's why he fired him.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6328 on: January 26, 2018, 11:05:32 PM »
I don't care what discussions you have had with other people.

The questions you are asking have already been answered in this thread,  you can read them or not. 

The bottom line is that every republican and right wing loony has been trying to find something, anything on Hillary,  and they found nothing.  Zilch.  Then they start inventing things, and end up looking silly.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #6329 on: January 26, 2018, 11:06:52 PM »
Totes...Ok and? What context does that add?

Don't play dumb.

Once again, so what?

I don't care how someone feels, I want to see what is said. He himself agreed.

As I also keep saying, people keep cutting off Trump's full paragraph. It adds alot more to context.

It's so funny, you hear it from the horses mouth no one told him to stop the investigation yet somehow he still did.

Y'all really need this like people needed others to be witches.
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