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Aluminium melts at 600C & fails structurally in aerospace applications at 350C max.

The SR-71 had to be made of titanium (melting point 1700C) to withstand the Aerodynamic Heating of 600+C caused by going at only 2,200+mph.

Yet thin aluminium sheeting was enough for the 24,500mph Saturn V trash-penis?

It doesn't take a genius to see that there's something very wrong about the above numbers...

Someone's telling porkies; my money's on NASA.

^Doing It Right.

My money's on you misunderstanding basic physics,  yet again,  you clearly know nothing about the Saturn V,   what was the velocity and altitude when the stage I engines cut off? 

Here are the actual numbers for Apollo 11..   at the time of the  S1C outboard engine cutoff.

Time 02:41.63   Altitude 35.701 nm  Range 50.529nm  Earth Velocity 7851.9 ft/sec  Space Velocity 9100.6 ft/sec

Quote from: Yendor on February 16, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Come on guys, you know my pal Rayzor would never say you can hear sound on the moon...would he?

Sure would,  and  proved it too. 

Oh dear,
Oh deary deary me.

Am I lying running rayzor ?
You "proved" sound is audible in the vacuum on the moon 
your evidence ?
The Apollo movies.

you are now asking for evidence sound is audible in the Apollo movies 

Internet slap stick at it's best.

But the laughs show no sign of easing up,
You were challenged to find the same phenomena on any ISS footage,
You ran away,
Why ?

According to you sound travels through solids in the vacuum of space,
I provided a direct quote from a NASA rocketman who is on the record as saying this simply does not happen.

You ran away.

(I'm seeing a pattern emerge)

What now running rayzor ?

whilst its entertaining to spoon feed you accurate facts as according to science,
and show you up as completely clueless on your specialised subject.
the constant arse wiping after you soil yourself is becoming a little tedious.

So....
are the ISS players lying about sound not travelling through solids in the vacuum of space ?
(they could be of course, who knows, but I'm after your opinion)
Can you provide one example of sound travelling through the vacuum or a solid in the vacuum of space on any ISS video ?

Are you starting calf stretches ?
Or do you actually plan to defend your wild statements ?


Come on son,
It's now or never.
Anti up or pipe down.

"It is true, however, that sound cannot travel in a vacuum so you do not hear things outside.  When you drive a bolt or tap a piece of equipment with a tool, you don't hear a thing."  

Garrett Reisman
former NASA rocketman
 

Quote from: Rayzor on February 16, 2016, 03:44:08 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 16, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Come on guys, you know my pal Rayzor would never say you can hear sound on the moon...would he?

Sure would,  and  proved it too. 

Oh dear,
Oh deary deary me.

Am I lying running rayzor ?
You "proved" sound is audible in the vacuum on the moon 
your evidence ?
The Apollo movies.

you are now asking for evidence sound is audible in the Apollo movies 

Internet slap stick at it's best.

But the laughs show no sign of easing up,
You were challenged to find the same phenomena on any ISS footage,
You ran away,
Why ?

According to you sound travels through solids in the vacuum of space,
I provided a direct quote from a NASA rocketman who is on the record as saying this simply does not happen.

You ran away.

(I'm seeing a pattern emerge)

What now running rayzor ?

whilst its entertaining to spoon feed you accurate facts as according to science,
and show you up as completely clueless on your specialised subject.
the constant arse wiping after you soil yourself is becoming a little tedious.

So....
are the ISS players lying about sound not travelling through solids in the vacuum of space ?
(they could be of course, who knows, but I'm after your opinion)
Can you provide one example of sound travelling through the vacuum or a solid in the vacuum of space on any ISS video ?

Are you starting calf stretches ?
Or do you actually plan to defend your wild statements ?


Come on son,
It's now or never.
Anti up or pipe down.

Poor little feuker.  Can't stop lying and  shitting over his own thread and squawking.

It's your claim that you can hear "every clink, click, rustle, clatter, bang and crash in an alleged vacuum can be clearly heard on the audio during the Apollo movies"
You can sometimes hear things where there is solid contact,  but not as you claim  "every clink, click, rustle, clatter, bang and crash"
Are you now backing down from that claim?  Since you are refusing to provide any evidence.   

I think it's funny that you have nothing,  and the reptillian moon base people actually have much more evidence than you do.   Witness statements, whistleblowers,  documents...
Or did you already know there are secret bases on the dark side of the moon?

My money's on you misunderstanding basic physics,  yet again

My money's on you lying & providing a jumble of irrelevant data you don't understand to cover up your eternal bullshit...

Let's see who's right?

Time 02:41.63   Altitude 35.701 nm  Range 50.529nm  Earth Velocity 7851.9 ft/sec  Space Velocity 9100.6 ft/sec

Yup; Legba wins again.

Because at 35 miles altitude the Saturn V was still well within the atmosphere, yet was doing over 5,300 mph.

More than double the velocity at which the titanium SR-71 reached temps of over 600C.

Read the below again:

Aluminium melts at 600C & fails structurally in aerospace applications at 350C max.

The SR-71 had to be made of titanium (melting point 1700C) to withstand the Aerodynamic Heating of 600+C caused by going at only 2,200+mph.

Yet thin aluminium sheeting was enough for the 24,500mph Saturn V trash-penis?

It doesn't take a genius to see that there's something very wrong about the above numbers...

Someone's telling porkies; my money's on NASA.

As usual, you Fail Hard when faced with genuine Facts, Science & Evidence.

Toodle-pip, Loser!

Quote from: Rayzor on February 18, 2016, 05:16:27 AM

My money's on you misunderstanding basic physics,  yet again

My money's on you lying & providing a jumble of irrelevant data you don't understand to cover up your eternal bullshit...

Let's see who's right?

Quote from: Rayzor on February 18, 2016, 05:16:27 AM

Time 02:41.63   Altitude 35.701 nm  Range 50.529nm  Earth Velocity 7851.9 ft/sec  Space Velocity 9100.6 ft/sec

Yup; Legba wins again.

Because at 35 miles altitude the Saturn V was still well within the atmosphere, yet was doing over 5,300 mph.

More than double the velocity at which the titanium SR-71 reached temps of over 600C.

Read the below again:

Quote from: Papa Legba on February 17, 2016, 06:36:08 AM

Aluminium melts at 600C & fails structurally in aerospace applications at 350C max.

The SR-71 had to be made of titanium (melting point 1700C) to withstand the Aerodynamic Heating of 600+C caused by going at only 2,200+mph.

Yet thin aluminium sheeting was enough for the 24,500mph Saturn V trash-penis?

It doesn't take a genius to see that there's something very wrong about the above numbers...

Someone's telling porkies; my money's on NASA.

As usual, you Fail Hard when faced with genuine Facts, Science & Evidence.

Toodle-pip, Loser!

Uh no,  at 200,000 feet there is in fact almost no air.  It is about 300 times less dense than at 80,000 ft.   So you lose again.

Uh no,  at 200,000 feet there is in fact almost no air.  It is about 300 times less dense than at 80,000 ft.

*Yawn!*

So that's why the X-15 had  similar Aerodynamic Heating problems to the SR-71 at higher altitudes & lower velocities than your fraudulent trash-penis Saturn V?

The X-15 had to be made of Inconel btw...

And why didn't you provide data for the velocity of the silly fake Saturn V at the same altitudes as the SR-71 to start with?

Unless you were deliberately trying to mislead?

Disgusting little thing, aren't you?

You know damn well it's all bullshit.

You Lie about everything.

You spend your entire life here, defending Lies.

You are in Hell.

Legba sees you there.

 
Rayzor, it's quite simple.
The evidence sounds are clearly audible on the Apollo movie excursions are....
wait for it...
on the Apollo movie excursions 

Obviously all you have left is denial and delusion.

we can all see you obviously claimed sound travels in a vacuum below,
YOU ARE CHALLENGED TO FIND ONE EXAMPLE FROM ISS FOOTAGE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR ANTI SCIENCE MELTDOWN AND TANTRUMS

Of course you won't,
ruuuuun rayzor ruuuuuuuuuuuun 

Quote from: Rayzor on February 16, 2016, 03:44:08 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 16, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Come on guys, you know my pal Rayzor would never say you can hear sound on the moon...would he?

Sure would,  and  proved it too. 

Oh dear,
Oh deary deary me.

Am I lying running rayzor ?
You "proved" sound is audible in the vacuum on the moon 
your evidence ?
The Apollo movies.

you are now asking for evidence sound is audible in the Apollo movies 

Internet slap stick at it's best.

But the laughs show no sign of easing up,
You were challenged to find the same phenomena on any ISS footage,
You ran away,
Why ?

According to you sound travels through solids in the vacuum of space,
I provided a direct quote from a NASA rocketman who is on the record as saying this simply does not happen.

You ran away.

(I'm seeing a pattern emerge)

What now running rayzor ?

whilst its entertaining to spoon feed you accurate facts as according to science,
and show you up as completely clueless on your specialised subject.
the constant arse wiping after you soil yourself is becoming a little tedious.

So....
are the ISS players lying about sound not travelling through solids in the vacuum of space ?
(they could be of course, who knows, but I'm after your opinion)
Can you provide one example of sound travelling through the vacuum or a solid in the vacuum of space on any ISS video ?

Are you starting calf stretches ?
Or do you actually plan to defend your wild statements ?


Come on son,
It's now or never.
Anti up or pipe down.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 18, 2016, 06:12:09 AM

Uh no,  at 200,000 feet there is in fact almost no air.  It is about 300 times less dense than at 80,000 ft.

*Yawn!*

So that's why the X-15 had  similar Aerodynamic Heating problems to the SR-71 at higher altitudes & lower velocities than your fraudulent trash-penis Saturn V?

The X-15 had to be made of Inconel btw...

And why didn't you provide data for the velocity of the silly fake Saturn V at the same altitudes as the SR-71 to start with?

Unless you were deliberately trying to mislead?

Disgusting little thing, aren't you?

You know damn well it's all bullshit.

You Lie about everything.

You spend your entire life here, defending Lies.

You are in Hell.

Legba sees you there.

Just because you can't do simple math, doesn't mean no-one else can.  Now if you had to calculate how much brightly painted MDF it would take to cover up your latest decorating disaster, I'm sure you would fish out the calculator and come up with some numbers,   after all being an interior decorator isn't rocket science...  LOL!

Rayzor, it's quite simple.
The evidence sounds are clearly audible on the Apollo movie excursions are....
wait for it...
on the Apollo movie excursions 

Obviously all you have left is denial and delusion.

we can all see you obviously claimed sound travels in a vacuum below,
YOU ARE CHALLENGED TO FIND ONE EXAMPLE FROM ISS FOOTAGE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR ANTI SCIENCE MELTDOWN AND TANTRUMS

Of course you won't,
ruuuuun rayzor ruuuuuuuuuuuun 

Nope.  You'll never be capable of comprehending anything more complex than a bag of rocks.   That's your cross to bear, not mine.  Good luck, you sad little feucker.

I have no answers to anything here are more lies & bullshit & diversion...

lol wut?

Quote from: Psychopathic Liar on February 18, 2016, 06:54:30 AM

I have no answers to anything here are more lies & bullshit & diversion...

lol wut?

lol wut?

Looks like Rayzor said sound could be transmitted through solids on the moon. This would be correct.

Looks like Rayzor said sound could be transmitted through solids on the moon. This would be correct.

We have already seen NASA state atmosphere is the same at the lunar surface as surrounding the ISS.

" It is true, however, that sound cannot travel in a vacuum so you do not hear things outside.  When you drive a bolt or tap a piece of equipment with a tool, you don't hear a thing."

" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."
Garrett Reisman former NASA spaceman describing working outside the ISS.

how so ?
I'm quite sure you believe the ISS to be a solid.


(btw rayzor can't seem to decide what he believes)

Looks like Rayzor said sound could be transmitted through solids on the moon.

^Is Rayzor's Bitch.

Back to Rayzor/ICfreely's Lies:

Uh no,  at 200,000 feet there is in fact almost no air.  It is about 300 times less dense than at 80,000 ft.

*Yawn!*

So that's why the X-15 had  similar Aerodynamic Heating problems to the SR-71 at higher altitudes & lower velocities than your fraudulent trash-penis Saturn V?

The X-15 had to be made of Inconel btw...

And why didn't you provide data for the velocity of the silly fake Saturn V at the same altitudes as the SR-71 to start with?

Unless you were deliberately trying to mislead?

Disgusting little thing, aren't you?

You know damn well it's all bullshit.

You Lie about everything.

You spend your entire life here, defending Lies.

You are in Hell.

Legba sees you there.

Only some of it was Inconel.

Planes tend to fly near horizontal, rockets tend to fly near vertical. As such, rockets will be in atmosphere for less time.

And of course sokarul riding to rayzors rescue does not account for audible sounds on Apollo excursions where there is no contact between solids.

Where rayzor began to suggest the sound waves travelled along the surface and up the boot soles into the air filled suits,
but of course he decided it best to just run and hide behind distraction and insults.

And of course has being hiding from the ISS question for pages now 

Only some of it was Inconel.

ALL of the Saturn V was aluminium.

Apart from a tiny bit at the front.

It would've been torn to bits by shockwave compression & aerodynamic heating long before it reached high altitude.

It is a ridiculous contraption; 3,000 tons of unstable explosives all sat bolt upright in a flimsy aluminium/mild steel frame that is then set fire to?

And flies half-a-million miles to teh munn & back?

You think THAT'S possible how?

GTFO, time wasters!

" Even when the [apollo] astronaut in the photo to the right, hit a metal tube into the ground with a hammer, no sound was made." 
 http://www.moonzoo.org/FAQ_MoonFacts

Did I win ?
rayzor et al appear to have run out of steam and sound completely confused over their compelling moon landing evidence.

I thought it would be more challenging tbh.

" Even when the [apollo] astronaut in the photo to the right, hit a metal tube into the ground with a hammer, no sound was made." 
 http://www.moonzoo.org/FAQ_MoonFacts

Did I win ?
rayzor et al appear to have run out of steam and sound completely confused over their compelling moon landing evidence.

I thought it would be more challenging tbh.

So if that's your best evidence that you can hear..

"every clink, click, rustle, clatter, bang and crash in an alleged vacuum can be clearly heard on the audio during the Apollo movies"

Having just proven yourself wrong, are you now retracting that statement?   

I like it when you sad little conspiracy feuckers trip yourselves up and look like complete morons.

Does it bother you that there is more evidence for an alien reptile base on the dark side of the moon, than there is for the moon landings being faked?

If I was in your shoes, I'd be questioning things more closely.

Does it bother you that there is more evidence for an alien reptile base on the dark side of the moon, than there is for the moon landings being faked?

^Psychopathic Lies.

Quote from: Psychopathic Liar on February 18, 2016, 05:05:24 PM

Does it bother you that there is more evidence for an alien reptile base on the dark side of the moon, than there is for the moon landings being faked?

^Psychopathic Lies.

Do you doubt the evidence?

http://exopolitics.org/secret-moon-base-uses-abducted-humans-as-slave-labor/

Whistle Blower's evidence.
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I didn't read the whole thread, sorry.

You can see the pendulum experiment they did was in 1/6 of the earths gravity. Simple maths can confirm it is being swung in 1/6 of the earths gravity.

So if that's your best evidence that you can hear..

"every clink, click, rustle, clatter, bang and crash in an alleged vacuum can be clearly heard on the audio during the Apollo movies"

Obviously not, the evidence is ubiquitous during the Apollo excursion movies
You ran away shouting insults over your shoulder

Having just proven yourself wrong, are you now retracting that statement?   

no need for retraction, we have all seen the movies and their very noisy soundtrack.

I like it when you sad little conspiracy feuckers trip yourselves up and look like complete morons.

have you decided whether sound can travel in a vacuum yet ?

Does it bother you that there is more evidence for an alien reptile base on the dark side of the moon, than there is for the moon landings being faked?
If I was in your shoes, I'd be questioning things more closely.   
     

Pftha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..
the ubiquitous noise made in the Apollo excursion movies is just one strand,
you can't seem to concentrate on this one subject without flip flopping on whether sound travels in a vacuum and posting links to reptilian moon bases.

Let's see if you have the grapes to address a couple of direct questions without legging it like a cowardly custard.

You claimed to have "proved" sound travels in the vacuum on the lunar surface (we have seen the quote), because of the ubiquitous noise heard during the Apollo excursions,
you then began claiming I provide evidence of noise heard in Apollo excursions whilst at the same time you began claiming you never said sound travels in a vacuum etc.

can sound be heard from outside during the Apollo excursions ? Yes/No.

Don't run off just yet because here is the follow up question.

Thinking of all your ridiculous mental gymnastics offered up during your drawn out meltdown,

Is any sound heard during ISS excursions, whether a solid is involved or not ? Yes/No.

Of course you will run away, throw an insult and post a link about reptilians,

why ?

I think we all know why.
because you have being shown up,
your ridiculous moon landing security blanket is a joke,

Now, those very simple and straightforward Yes/No questions you won't answer will just hang unanswered,

Poor running rayzor,
You can run from direct answers all you like,
But don't expect to outrun the truth or yourself.

let's recap...

Quote from: Rayzor on February 16, 2016, 03:44:08 PM

Quote from: Yendor on February 16, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Come on guys, you know my pal Rayzor would never say you can hear sound on the moon...would he?

Sure would,  and  proved it too. 

Oh dear,
Oh deary deary me.

Am I lying running rayzor ?
You "proved" sound is audible in the vacuum on the moon 
your evidence ?
The Apollo movies.

you are now asking for evidence sound is audible in the Apollo movies 

Internet slap stick at it's best.

But the laughs show no sign of easing up,
You were challenged to find the same phenomena on any ISS footage,
You ran away,
Why ?

According to you sound travels through solids in the vacuum of space,
I provided a direct quote from a NASA rocketman who is on the record as saying this simply does not happen.

You ran away.

(I'm seeing a pattern emerge)

What now running rayzor ?

whilst its entertaining to spoon feed you accurate facts as according to science,
and show you up as completely clueless on your specialised subject.
the constant arse wiping after you soil yourself is becoming a little tedious.

So....
are the ISS players lying about sound not travelling through solids in the vacuum of space ?
(they could be of course, who knows, but I'm after your opinion)
Can you provide one example of sound travelling through the vacuum or a solid in the vacuum of space on any ISS video ?

Are you starting calf stretches ?
Or do you actually plan to defend your wild statements ?


Come on son,
It's now or never.
Anti up or pipe down.

Why do you keep insisting I ran away?   Seems like a weird slightly creepy thing to keep saying,  when it's obvious that you are lying. 

What we know so far,  and you have helped prove it,   1 Sound does not travel in a vacuum.   2.  Sound does travel through solid materials.

Anyone who is surprised by these results,  can get their basic physics knowledge refreshed by the local primary school.

We also found out that the evidence for an alien reptile base on the dark side of the moon is stronger than the evidence for the moon landings being faked. 
The little fuecker, refuses to acknowledge this fact,  which is highly suspicious in my book,   does he know something?   What's he hiding?

^Toxic Gibberish.

Anyhoo, as Homie Rayzor ran away from telling us how fast the giant trash-penis Saturn V was going at 80,000+ feet,
the same altitude the SR-71 is nearly melting at, I went & found out.

Seems it was going at 2,250 mph.

Let's look at the numbers again:

Aluminium melts at 600C & fails structurally in aerospace applications at 350C max.

The SR-71 had to be made of titanium (melting point 1700C) to withstand the Aerodynamic Heating of 600+C caused by going at only 2,200+mph.

Yet thin aluminium sheeting was enough for the 24,500mph Saturn V trash-penis?

It doesn't take a genius to see that there's something very wrong about the above numbers...

Someone's telling porkies; my money's on NASA.

Do you see a problem?

Cos Legba sees a problem...

Homie Rayzor won't, mind; it's not his job to see problems.

No; it's Homie Rayzor's job to attack minds that DO see problems...

He's not a very nice chap, is he?

Let's watch him thrash & howl some more, eh?

Off you go, Homie...

Papa Legba, did your research tell you how long it took for the SR-71 to heat up to 600 degrees C?  Was it instantaneous or did it take a few minutes?

Aerodynamic Heating would be almost instantaneous on such thin aluminium sheeting.

A matter of seconds rather than minutes.

And before you spout off some more, look again at what you claim is the number of pop-rivets (which are clearly visible in photos) the outer skin of the LEM contains, as well as how you think it was constructed:

No idea, but I would guess zero.  They likely welded most all of the joints.

Welding paper-thin aluminium?

Yeah; right.

Your knowledge of aerodynamics, aerospace materials & construction is Zero, markjo; don't pretend it isn't.

Stick to saying NO U!!! then changing the subject...

Toodle-pip, Hypnomarkjo!

Aerodynamic Heating would be almost instantaneous on such thin aluminium sheeting.

A matter of seconds rather than minutes.

How many seconds?

And before you spout off some more, look again at what you claim is the number of pop-rivets (which are clearly visible in photos) the outer skin of the LEM contains, as well as how you think it was constructed:

You still have yet to explain exactly why those rivets were not appropriate where they were used.

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2016, 07:07:49 PM

No idea, but I would guess zero.  They likely welded most all of the joints.

Welding paper-thin aluminium?

Why not?  Aren't any of your welder buddies good enough to show you how it's done?
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http://www.thefabricator.com/article/arcwelding/tackling-thin-aluminum-with-gtaw-for-the-first-time
http://benkrasnow.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-tig-weld-aluminum-beverage-cans.html

Your knowledge of aerodynamics, aerospace materials & construction is Zero, markjo; don't pretend it isn't.

NO U.