I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6480 on: July 03, 2017, 09:37:26 AM »
Piss? Sanitary facilities, pls. I work in shipping since 1966 and passengers, staff and crews on our seagoing ships need sanitary facilities. And when the ships get old the sanitary facilities starts to fail and ... I am called in to solve the problems. Nobody likes a ship with the top of the double bottom full of shit. I have fixed plenty such problems. It is part of my job.

And here you have it folks, from his own words, Heiwa is the marine equivalent of a guy that empties septic tanks.

The leaking tank was already empty, when I arrived. My job was to plan the repair of it and making the system functioning, etc, etc. You really have to read what I write, loser.
So you're a plumber then.  Got it.
No, you didn't. Loser.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.  No shame in being a plumber.  You really should think better of yourself.  It isn't necessary for you to constantly sling insults at others just because you're ashamed of your life's work.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6481 on: July 03, 2017, 07:33:03 PM »
What do you think? Is my mother wrong?

Yes.

Pretty hot tho.

What do you think? Is my mother wrong?

Almost made a mum joke, but then I thought that 1) it would be too easy and 2) she's probably been dead for ages anyways.

Some of us don't hold ourselves to such high standards ;)
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6482 on: July 03, 2017, 07:38:35 PM »
Piss? Sanitary facilities, pls. I work in shipping since 1966 and passengers, staff and crews on our seagoing ships need sanitary facilities. And when the ships get old the sanitary facilities starts to fail and ... I am called in to solve the problems. Nobody likes a ship with the top of the double bottom full of shit. I have fixed plenty such problems. It is part of my job.

And here you have it folks, from his own words, Heiwa is the marine equivalent of a guy that empties septic tanks.

The leaking tank was already empty, when I arrived. My job was to plan the repair of it and making the system functioning, etc, etc. You really have to read what I write, loser.
So you're a plumber then.  Got it.
No, you didn't. Loser.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.  No shame in being a plumber.  You really should think better of yourself.  It isn't necessary for you to constantly sling insults at others just because you're ashamed of your life's work.

The average Australian lawyer earns $37 an hour, I earn substantially more than that as a tradesman. Also contrary to popular belief people can read and educate themselves regardless of their career.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/plumbers-electricians-australias-richest-tradies-charging-more-than-the-average-lawyer/news-story/4fee7c5920ff4624e53c5ca20f99e3cb

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National figures from job quote websiteserviceseeking.com.au reveal the average plumber charges $78.40 an hour, up 1.9 per cent on last year, and the average electrician charges $74.61 an hour, up 4 per cent.

The average Australian lawyer, by comparison, earns $37 an hour, according to PayScale.

Plus we (tradies) built your country.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6483 on: July 03, 2017, 08:11:37 PM »
The average Australian lawyer earns $37 an hour, I earn substantially more than that as a tradesman. Also contrary to popular belief people can read and educate themselves regardless of their career.

Really? In my experience it's more like $370/hr on a good day!

BTW Tradesmen are great!
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6484 on: July 03, 2017, 08:40:18 PM »
The average Australian lawyer earns $37 an hour, I earn substantially more than that as a tradesman. Also contrary to popular belief people can read and educate themselves regardless of their career.

Really? In my experience it's more like $370/hr on a good day!

BTW Tradesmen are great!

My lawyer charges substantially more than that also :).
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6485 on: July 03, 2017, 09:21:52 PM »
The average Australian lawyer earns $37 an hour, I earn substantially more than that as a tradesman. Also contrary to popular belief people can read and educate themselves regardless of their career.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/plumbers-electricians-australias-richest-tradies-charging-more-than-the-average-lawyer/news-story/4fee7c5920ff4624e53c5ca20f99e3cb

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National figures from job quote websiteserviceseeking.com.au reveal the average plumber charges $78.40 an hour, up 1.9 per cent on last year, and the average electrician charges $74.61 an hour, up 4 per cent.

The average Australian lawyer, by comparison, earns $37 an hour, according to PayScale.
What someone charges for services is not necessarily what they earn.  I charge $96 per hour for my services at work but get paid only a fraction of that fee.
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« Reply #6486 on: July 03, 2017, 10:28:00 PM »
Very astute.

Those figures are from business owners.

I get charged out at a lot more than I am paid, if I started my own business then that money would all come to me however I would be paying all my own overheads.

Did it before me and a Sparky owned a company and contracted out, best ive done is 16k in a month before tax (which isn't great for the amount of work and stress.) I think working full time is better for me.

The point about average wages still stands.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6487 on: July 09, 2017, 05:48:08 PM »
I was reading through the posts starting at page 1 but my eyes are going buggy.

Did mikeman state the reason he did not collect his money and had he solved the on-board bathroom dilemma stated in the Challenge?

I keep expecting him to return and collect, as time keeps passing by...

Bhs designed a toilet that works.

Gotham what's up man, what's with the support of Heiwa. I passionately believe something he claims to believe but that doesn't stop me for a second saying the guys a fraud and a con.

No one will be paid. It doesn't matter what happens, if NASA flew him to the moon he wouldn't pay them.
If they nuked France he wouldnt pay up.
If NIST declassified their structural analysis models released their inputs and showed us the sequence of structural failures that led to the towers total and rapid collapse (and the physics worked) he would not pay.

No one is getting that money Gotham, how can that not be clear to you?

You know I was in the group who wanted the thread to stay in the upper fora, right?  It never should have moved here...why? Because there is discussion of space travel important to factors directly affecting FET. 

Now, because it can get lost in what is a "science" fora, the equivalent of stones can ostensibly be hurled at the thread destroying the useful evidence.  It was motivated by a RET conspiracy and FET lost.

As a loyal and committed FEer, I will do my level best to insure REers do not get their way when they first insisted on and won a thread move.  Second, by damaging FET even more by ignoring the moved thread and burying the useful evidence within.   

The thread must continue and one day be moved to the fora it deserves.

If and when someone wins the Challenge we can figure out what to do next with preserving the FET evidence.     
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 06:00:14 PM by gotham »

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6488 on: July 11, 2017, 12:46:58 PM »
I was reading through the posts starting at page 1 but my eyes are going buggy.

Did mikeman state the reason he did not collect his money and had he solved the on-board bathroom dilemma stated in the Challenge?

I keep expecting him to return and collect, as time keeps passing by...

Bhs designed a toilet that works.

Gotham what's up man, what's with the support of Heiwa. I passionately believe something he claims to believe but that doesn't stop me for a second saying the guys a fraud and a con.

No one will be paid. It doesn't matter what happens, if NASA flew him to the moon he wouldn't pay them.
If they nuked France he wouldnt pay up.
If NIST declassified their structural analysis models released their inputs and showed us the sequence of structural failures that led to the towers total and rapid collapse (and the physics worked) he would not pay.

No one is getting that money Gotham, how can that not be clear to you?

You know I was in the group who wanted the thread to stay in the upper fora, right?  It never should have moved here...why? Because there is discussion of space travel important to factors directly affecting FET. 

Now, because it can get lost in what is a "science" fora, the equivalent of stones can ostensibly be hurled at the thread destroying the useful evidence.  It was motivated by a RET conspiracy and FET lost.

As a loyal and committed FEer, I will do my level best to insure REers do not get their way when they first insisted on and won a thread move.  Second, by damaging FET even more by ignoring the moved thread and burying the useful evidence within.   

The thread must continue and one day be moved to the fora it deserves.

If and when someone wins the Challenge we can figure out what to do next with preserving the FET evidence.     

Well, nobody will win my Challenge. Nobody isn't so clever. Nobody is a typical FET twerp with an IQ that makes IQ experts blushing. That's why FDR/Stalin got away with a-bombing Japan 1945, how JFK managed to put Americans on the Moon 69, how GWB managed 2001 to destroy NY and Pentagon 911 assisted by some Arabs, etc, etc.
They all failed my Challenges - http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6489 on: July 11, 2017, 12:55:05 PM »


Well, nobody will win my Challenge. Nobody isn't so clever. Nobody is a typical FET twerp with an IQ that makes IQ experts blushing. That's why FDR/Stalin got away with a-bombing Japan 1945, how JFK managed to put Americans on the Moon 69, how GWB managed 2001 to destroy NY and Pentagon 911 assisted by some Arabs, etc, etc.
They all failed my Challenges - http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm

I've got to admit, for an obvious drunk you have very good spelling.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6490 on: July 12, 2017, 01:55:28 PM »
Heiwa, you're already a winner by proposing a challenge of this magnitude using your own resources. Unlike government agencies, you are not using taxed money to play exotic experiments of questionable utility.

Most people do not want to give you calculations and tables that would cost them just a few hours to get your money in return. It must be laziness or ... maybe that's impossible. But that's not the point. If they at least presented something and did not waste time questioning your personality, integrity or ability to pay, in a non-scientific way, maybe the goal was achieved and then, if you did not pay, you should be convicted by fraud.

Whoever sees this topic gets the impression that around you, a man with money, a large circle of people loves to adorn themselves with peacock feathers, in order to make it look like yours, other people's merits. They will never have a million to spend on things that satisfy their intellectual curiosity. Morally, this has been known since ages as "envy."

Since the level of efficiency here is low and only rhetorical, what do you think of this methodology?
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6491 on: July 12, 2017, 02:49:23 PM »
Jesus Christ in a chicken basket, I can't believe this thread is still going.
There's no hope.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6492 on: July 12, 2017, 06:57:15 PM »
Heiwa, you're already a winner by proposing a challenge of this magnitude using your own resources. Unlike government agencies, you are not using taxed money to play exotic experiments of questionable utility.

Most people do not want to give you calculations and tables that would cost them just a few hours to get your money in return. It must be laziness or ... maybe that's impossible. But that's not the point. If they at least presented something and did not waste time questioning your personality, integrity or ability to pay, in a non-scientific way, maybe the goal was achieved and then, if you did not pay, you should be convicted by fraud.

Whoever sees this topic gets the impression that around you, a man with money, a large circle of people loves to adorn themselves with peacock feathers, in order to make it look like yours, other people's merits. They will never have a million to spend on things that satisfy their intellectual curiosity. Morally, this has been known since ages as "envy."

Since the level of efficiency here is low and only rhetorical, what do you think of this methodology?
nathangeffen.webfactional.com/spacetravel/spacetravel.php

Well, others suggest plenty people suffer from cognitive dissonance, brain wash or similar. Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6493 on: July 12, 2017, 06:59:37 PM »

Well, others suggest plenty people suffer from cognitive dissonance, brain wash or similar. Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.



Yes, you do.

Where's my plane ticket?

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Why Heiwa's Challenges are a Joke
« Reply #6494 on: July 14, 2017, 11:23:59 PM »
I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.

Heiwa admits that his challenges are a joke and that they are fake!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 12:20:19 PM by Boots »
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6495 on: July 15, 2017, 07:35:03 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike
Since it costs 2.72˘ to produce a penny, putting in your 2˘ if really worth 5.44˘.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6496 on: July 15, 2017, 08:13:32 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.

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« Reply #6497 on: July 15, 2017, 08:34:31 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.
Since it costs 2.72˘ to produce a penny, putting in your 2˘ if really worth 5.44˘.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6498 on: July 15, 2017, 10:43:11 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!

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« Reply #6499 on: July 15, 2017, 11:39:41 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
Evidently you don't know jack and try to pass of opinion as fact.
Since it costs 2.72˘ to produce a penny, putting in your 2˘ if really worth 5.44˘.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6500 on: July 15, 2017, 02:24:14 PM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
Evidently you don't know jack and try to pass of opinion as fact.
Hm, question remains how much fuel you need to go to the Moon ... and back ... and how to land! Any proposals?

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6501 on: July 15, 2017, 02:26:58 PM »
Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.
So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
The fuel required for the manned moon missions are documented in the Apollo mission reports.

Since there are no manned Mars missions that have been finalized, the exact fuel requirements are currently unknown.
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« Reply #6502 on: July 15, 2017, 02:53:38 PM »
Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.
So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
The fuel required for the manned moon missions are documented in the Apollo mission reports.


So, why don't you copy/paste them to me to win my Challenge?

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« Reply #6503 on: July 15, 2017, 03:06:27 PM »
Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.
So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
The fuel required for the manned moon missions are documented in the Apollo mission reports.


So, why don't you copy/paste them to me to win my Challenge?
Because you've already said NASA are a bunch of lairs and the leader of the hoax...that nothing they have is to be trusted.
Since it costs 2.72˘ to produce a penny, putting in your 2˘ if really worth 5.44˘.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6504 on: July 15, 2017, 04:36:41 PM »
Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.
So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
The fuel required for the manned moon missions are documented in the Apollo mission reports.


So, why don't you copy/paste them to me to win my Challenge?
Because I'm not the least bit interested in your challenge.  Besides, you've already dismissed the mission reports as fiction, so why would I bother?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6505 on: July 15, 2017, 08:45:06 PM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
So far you've been unable to show that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6506 on: July 16, 2017, 09:10:15 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
So far you've been unable to show that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

Study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#OR about my attempts to contact NASA about its OSIRISREx hoax!

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6507 on: July 16, 2017, 11:52:21 AM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
So far you've been unable to show that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

Study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#OR about my attempts to contact NASA about its OSIRISREx hoax!
there is no proof that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

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Heiwa

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6508 on: July 16, 2017, 12:03:54 PM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
So far you've been unable to show that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

Study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#OR about my attempts to contact NASA about its OSIRISREx hoax!
there is no proof that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.
Did you check with Nancy Jones and Erin Morton about me contacting them?

Nancy N. Jones, NAXA Office of Clownications, tel 301-286-0039, [email protected]

Erin Morton, Office of the Principal Clown, University of Arizona, tel 520-269-2493, [email protected]

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frenat

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #6509 on: July 16, 2017, 12:07:38 PM »
<snip> Whatever, I have a good laugh at anyone trying to win my money.]/b]
Because every time you’re presented with evidence you dismiss it and refuse to consider anything credible.  Thus, ensuring you never have to pay out.  Everyone here knows you’ll never pay so promoting your challenges is just plain silly.

Mike

You have to read the rules! It is not about evidence - it is about fuel consumption to travel to the Moon or Mars and back.

If you are convinced it is possible to travel in space, you should be able to calculate the fuel consumption.

A 'winner' told me I could do it myself using some video game for kids. When I told him his video game was a joke, the 'winner' got mad and was finally locked up in a mental institution at Salt Lake City.
You've just confirmed what everybody already know.  You don't care about proof.  Reality, what a concept.

Hm, the Challenge is just to calculate the fuel required for manned return trips to the Moon and Mars. It is not about the trips being possible. You can chose any trajectories you like to travel from Earth to Moon/Mars and back. I am only interested in the fuel required.

So far nobody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities have been able to give me a number of the kilograms of fuel needed ... so the €1M award is still with me.

I evidently know why!
So far you've been unable to show that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.

Study http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#OR about my attempts to contact NASA about its OSIRISREx hoax!
there is no proof that anybody at NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, Elon Musk, etc, and their associated universities know who you are or even care.  If they know about you at all they probably just laugh their asses off at you.  The failed name-dropping just makes you look even more pathetic.
Did you check with Nancy Jones and Erin Morton about me contacting them?

Nancy N. Jones, NAXA Office of Clownications, tel 301-286-0039, [email protected]

Erin Morton, Office of the Principal Clown, University of Arizona, tel 520-269-2493, [email protected]
Have you ever proven you actually contacted them and they care who you are?  Just you saying so isn't proof.  It isn't mine or anyone else's responsibility to prove your claims.  It is YOURS and it is apparent you are unable to do so.  But please keep up the name-dropping.  It just makes you look even more like a senile old fool trying to make himself look more important.  Keep up the humor!