I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

Quote from: Woody on October 04, 2016, 02:13:03 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 03, 2016, 11:12:56 PM

Quote from: Woody on October 03, 2016, 08:58:47 PM

Here this is for you again:

http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm

And someone walking you through how to do it:





The above are the simplest explanations I can find on how it is done.  If they are wrong then Kepler's and Newton's laws are wrong and putting satellites into the orbits they need to be in is just basically a crap shoot. With NASA and other space agencies just hoping for the best and crossing their fingers when they launch stuff into orbit.

I am noticing once again you demonstrate you have a memory problem.  Just like when you say no one has calculated the amount of propellant needed for you.  I posted this information before and in the video the person takes you step by step on how to do it.

I already told you I will help you understand how to do it.  Just ask me.  You need to include more information than in your last question.  You omitted some very important information which someone who claims to know the subject matter should have realized.

Sorry, this (non-NASA) info will not help you to calculate how to change speed and direction to get out of an orbit (around Earth) to enter a trajectory towards the Moon or planet Mars, the force required, when/where it shall be applied and in what direction and for how long ... and how much fuel is used. So it does not assist anyone trying to win my Challenge.

First of all you must know the mass of your manned spacecraft in orbit.

You know, you must know how heavy you are to get started incl. all fuel to be used during the manned trip.

Maybe it is not possible to carry all that weight/mass around? That is part of the Challenge!

Funny that is exactly what the information and calculations in the links I provided does.

Do you still not understand what delta-v is?  Your objections indicate that you do not. Those links I provided are showing you how to determine the velocity changes needed to get to different places in space. Being an engineer I would think you would recognize velocity equations.

I am not too surprised since you claimed I did not take gravity into account for other equations when I clearly did. There is also the only attempt at using equations I seen from you where you over simplified and left out the energy added to the system from the rocket exhaust.

I can give you links to technical papers from NASA, but if you did not understand what was in the vids or other link you certainly will not understand them.

Almost forgot:

Calculating the delta-v for a rocket does take mass into account.  I did those calculations for you remember?

Do you think when calculating the velocity changes needed must include the mass of the rocket?   I can tell you it does not.  You  need to know the velocity change the rocket is capable of and how long it takes to make those changes. That is determined by other equations.

Sorry, the info - all pseudoscience - provided will not help you win my Challenge. To get out of EPO and start the trip you must chose the right location.
Also - do not forget to flush the toilet after each visit.

So Newton's and Kepler's Laws are wrong?

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 06:45:06 AM

Quote from: Woody on October 04, 2016, 02:13:03 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 03, 2016, 11:12:56 PM

Quote from: Woody on October 03, 2016, 08:58:47 PM

Here this is for you again:

http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm

And someone walking you through how to do it:





The above are the simplest explanations I can find on how it is done.  If they are wrong then Kepler's and Newton's laws are wrong and putting satellites into the orbits they need to be in is just basically a crap shoot. With NASA and other space agencies just hoping for the best and crossing their fingers when they launch stuff into orbit.

I am noticing once again you demonstrate you have a memory problem.  Just like when you say no one has calculated the amount of propellant needed for you.  I posted this information before and in the video the person takes you step by step on how to do it.

I already told you I will help you understand how to do it.  Just ask me.  You need to include more information than in your last question.  You omitted some very important information which someone who claims to know the subject matter should have realized.

Sorry, this (non-NASA) info will not help you to calculate how to change speed and direction to get out of an orbit (around Earth) to enter a trajectory towards the Moon or planet Mars, the force required, when/where it shall be applied and in what direction and for how long ... and how much fuel is used. So it does not assist anyone trying to win my Challenge.

First of all you must know the mass of your manned spacecraft in orbit.

You know, you must know how heavy you are to get started incl. all fuel to be used during the manned trip.

Maybe it is not possible to carry all that weight/mass around? That is part of the Challenge!

Funny that is exactly what the information and calculations in the links I provided does.

Do you still not understand what delta-v is?  Your objections indicate that you do not. Those links I provided are showing you how to determine the velocity changes needed to get to different places in space. Being an engineer I would think you would recognize velocity equations.

I am not too surprised since you claimed I did not take gravity into account for other equations when I clearly did. There is also the only attempt at using equations I seen from you where you over simplified and left out the energy added to the system from the rocket exhaust.

I can give you links to technical papers from NASA, but if you did not understand what was in the vids or other link you certainly will not understand them.

Almost forgot:

Calculating the delta-v for a rocket does take mass into account.  I did those calculations for you remember?

Do you think when calculating the velocity changes needed must include the mass of the rocket?   I can tell you it does not.  You  need to know the velocity change the rocket is capable of and how long it takes to make those changes. That is determined by other equations.

Sorry, the info - all pseudoscience - provided will not help you win my Challenge. To get out of EPO and start the trip you must chose the right location.
Also - do not forget to flush the toilet after each visit.

So Newton's and Kepler's Laws are wrong?

No, but they will not help you decide the time and location in orbit to start the trips and what force to apply in the right direction. That is rocket science! Kepler may help you locate the moving target in its orbit but you must be able to predict the trajectory between yourself moving fast/turning in EPO and the moving/turning target in its orbit (using Newton?) and it is not easy. Newton slows you down or up and changes your direction all the time in your trajectory.
The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

BTW - rocket science is taught free of charge at many universities - http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#RS . Why don't you enroll?

Ever since I've started following this thread, you have continually added to your "challenge". I now see why they're saying you keep moving the goal posts.
You do realize nobody is taking you seriously, right? You have to see that.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 03, 2016, 08:52:49 PM

I challenge everyone to stop posting in this thread.

I will pay $10 USD to anyone who does not respond directly to my challenge.

They can't do it!

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak haha.

Heiwa in a nutshell.

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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on October 04, 2016, 07:26:12 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 03, 2016, 08:52:49 PM

I challenge everyone to stop posting in this thread.

I will pay $10 USD to anyone who does not respond directly to my challenge.

They can't do it!

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak haha.

I won your Ducati fyi.....heiwa conceded as always.

I will forward my shipping address 

Quote from: disputeone on October 04, 2016, 03:48:52 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on October 04, 2016, 07:26:12 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 03, 2016, 08:52:49 PM

I challenge everyone to stop posting in this thread.

I will pay $10 USD to anyone who does not respond directly to my challenge.

They can't do it!

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak haha.

I won your Ducati fyi.....heiwa conceded as always.

I will forward my shipping address 

Well, fairs fair I guess, can't I just move the goalposts?   

Okay, enough fun and games.  It's time to get this challenge moving again.  And I think I have just the thing.

Heweia,

If you can produce the results of an MRI scan that proves that you don't have brain damage, I am prepared to offer you this vintage Sony Walkman:



It features authentic stereo sound.  It's a $150 dollar value.  A true piece of history.  Batteries are not included but it runs off of two double A batteries.

In addition, if you can produce a written statement from a mental health professional which proves that you're not cognitively handicapped I will transfer ownership of this already broken in pair of Nike Air Max running shoes:



Olympic athletes have long had this advantage.
Michael Jordan had it.
Now you can have it.

This could be the big turning point in your life that you've been waiting for Hawaa.  Not only will you prove to all these people that you're not an idiot but you could be training like Michael Jordan while grooving like Michael Jackson.

I await your response...

I'd give you all the money in my bank account which is about 5 dollars, the minimum if you can complete crutonius' challenge as well.

Okay, enough fun and games.  It's time to get this challenge moving again.  And I think I have just the thing.

Heweia,

If you can produce the results of an MRI scan that proves that you don't have brain damage, I am prepared to offer you this vintage Sony Walkman:



It features authentic stereo sound.  It's a $150 dollar value.  A true piece of history.  Batteries are not included but it runs off of two double A batteries.

In addition, if you can produce a written statement from a mental health professional which proves that you're not cognitively handicapped I will transfer ownership of this already broken in pair of Nike Air Max running shoes:



Olympic athletes have long had this advantage.
Michael Jordan had it.
Now you can have it.

This could be the big turning point in your life that you've been waiting for Hawaa.  Not only will you prove to all these people that you're not an idiot but you could be training like Michael Jordan while grooving like Michael Jackson.

I await your response...

This is just epic........

I know it was supposed to be taking the piss but that walkman is a friggin awesome prize.

Ever since I've started following this thread, you have continually added to your "challenge". I now see why they're saying you keep moving the goal posts.
You do realize nobody is taking you seriously, right? You have to see that.

Hm, you joined the FE forum three weeks ago and have made 8 posts a day since and suggest now I add to the Challenge since then. The Challenge is the same since I started it 2012!

Just describe a manned space trip and the fuel required for it.

Result is that nobody can!

Reason is simple. Manned space trips are impossible.

There is no way to navigate from Earth EPO to any heavenly body and if you could, you cannot carry the fuel with you (you get too heavy).

I explain more at my website.

Sick people believing in manned space trips get very upset about it, their illusions are destroyed and they feel bad.

It is little I can do about it.

It is little I can do about it.

I totally get what you're saying heiwi!  That's why I'm expanding my Walkman Challenge to everyone, not just you.

If there's anyone that can provide me with proof that heiwi isn't brain damaged you can win this sweet walkman! 

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 09:23:39 PM

It is little I can do about it.

I totally get what you're saying heiwi!  That's why I'm expanding my Walkman Challenge to everyone, not just you.

If there's anyone that can provide me with proof that heiwi isn't brain damaged you can win this sweet walkman! 

No need to move that goal post!

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 09:23:39 PM

It is little I can do about it.

I totally get what you're saying heiwi!  That's why I'm expanding my Walkman Challenge to everyone, not just you.

If there's anyone that can provide me with proof that heiwi isn't brain damaged you can win this sweet walkman! 

Why don't you check with me first, if it is me, Heiwa, you are worried about?

I am of course healthy, rich, etc. My web site is http://heiwaco.com . Millions of people visit it ... and all are very happy.

Visit it, you too, and become happy!

Quote from: crutonius on October 04, 2016, 10:26:04 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 09:23:39 PM

It is little I can do about it.

I totally get what you're saying heiwi!  That's why I'm expanding my Walkman Challenge to everyone, not just you.

If there's anyone that can provide me with proof that heiwi isn't brain damaged you can win this sweet walkman! 

Why don't you check with me first, if it is me, Heiwa, you are worried about?

I am of course healthy, rich, etc. My web site is http://heiwaco.com . Millions of people visit it ... and all are very happy.

Visit it, you too, and become happy!

Oh I almost forgot. Shipping of this genuine Walkman tape player will be your responsibility should you win my Walkman Challenge®. A quick quote from FedEx tells me $213.64.

Heiwa can't talk for two seconds without shoehorning in his website, can he?

Walkman Challenge®

That's priceless lol.

 I would say I want to participate, however I question my own mental stability. Last thing I need is to give a doctor reasoning to peer around in my subconscious.

Heiwa can't talk for two seconds without shoehorning in his website, can he?

Wouldn't you?? Free advertisements and bot hits...the "mods" let him get away with it. Bet if I did that i would be banned second warning.

I am sure the person who actually owns this place would love to know that there are people abusing the site like that (if the "owner" even exist). I know if I owned this place I would boot him second warning.

Though the "mods" know best... ...unless heiwa is protected because...nah, already went there on another thread.

Heiwa can't talk for two seconds without shoehorning in his website, can he?

the more times he posts it, the more search engine bots visit.  the more they visit, the more hits he get.  The more hits he gets the bigger his ego.  the bigger his ego, the more times he posts it. 

Quote from: Woody on October 04, 2016, 01:26:35 PM

So Newton's and Kepler's Laws are wrong?

No, but they will not help you decide the time and location in orbit to start the trips and what force to apply in the right direction. That is rocket science! Kepler may help you locate the moving target in its orbit but you must be able to predict the trajectory between yourself moving fast/turning in EPO and the moving/turning target in its orbit (using Newton?) and it is not easy. Newton slows you down or up and changes your direction all the time in your trajectory.

Actually, just getting into earth orbit is rocket science too. 

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

BTW - rocket science is taught free of charge at many universities - http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#RS . Why don't you enroll?

I don't think that you understand what rocket science involves.

This thread makes me sad.   

WTF is wrong with you people? 

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Evidently I know more about human space travel than you do.  For example, I know that "space travel" is two words.

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Evidently I know more about human space travel than you do.  For example, I know that "space travel" is two words.

Thanks. I know it too. But to save space I make it one. Sorry it makes you wet and shit your pants.

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Did you ask Airbus about human space travel?

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Evidently I know more about human space travel than you do.  For example, I know that "space travel" is two words.

Thanks. I know it too. But to save space I make it one. Sorry it makes you wet and shit your pants.

I only wet and shit my pants from laughing so hard at your ignorance.

This thread makes me sad.   

WTF is wrong with you people?

Cognitive dissonance, haven't you been keeping up?

Edit @ bhs

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:39:47 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Evidently I know more about human space travel than you do.  For example, I know that "space travel" is two words.

Thanks. I know it too. But to save space I make it one. Sorry it makes you wet and shit your pants.

I only wet and shit my pants from laughing so hard at your ignorance.

I am not sorry to hear that. It happens to all twerps misunderstanding my qualifications and shilling on internet forums.

I cannot understand it. Astrophysics, rocket sciences, etc, etc, is taught at universities since the 1960's but nobody using that knowledge can win my €1M Challenge started 2012.

What is wrong? You? Or the rocket sciences?

The problem to start the space voyage is simple:

You/your spacecraft orbit Earth at a certain time/altitude, while Earth and you rotate 360°/day. At the same time Earth and you orbit the Sun in a year. You are supposed to start travel to the Moon or Mars, two heavenly bodies orbiting Earth and Sun respectively, and for that you have to apply a force (using your rocket engine) in the right direction, time, location, magnitude, duration. To do that you must know where you are.

So where are you, when you fire your rocket engine?

If you know it, you are on your way winning my Challenge.

I look forward to your application to win my Challenge.

I am not sorry to hear that. It happens to all twerps misunderstanding my qualifications and shilling on internet forums.

I cannot understand it. Astrophysics, rocket sciences, etc, etc, is taught at universities since the 1960's but nobody using that knowledge can win my €1M Challenge started 2012.

What is wrong? You? Or the rocket sciences?

The problem to start the space voyage is simple:

You/your spacecraft orbit Earth at a certain time/altitude, while Earth and you rotate 360°/day. At the same time Earth and you orbit the Sun in a year. You are supposed to start travel to the Moon or Mars, two heavenly bodies orbiting Earth and Sun respectively, and for that you have to apply a force (using your rocket engine) in the right direction, time, location, magnitude, duration. To do that you must know where you are.

So where are you, when you fire your rocket engine?

If you know it, you are on your way winning my Challenge.

I look forward to your application to win my Challenge.

I totally get what you're saying heiwi!  That's why I'm expanding my Walkman Challenge to everyone, not just you.

If there's anyone that can provide me with proof that heiwi isn't brain damaged you can win this sweet walkman! 



Oh I almost forgot. Shipping of this genuine Walkman tape player will be your responsibility should you win my Walkman Challenge®. A quick quote from FedEx tells me $213.64.

Is the shipping cost to win my EPIC Walkman Challenge® too much?  If you talk to your local shipping companies you might find that they have programs to help the economically disadvantaged people who live in welfare housing.