and then again ;) keep in mind : i don't believe anything that is yet nothing,i take no sides,it's just a thread i like to question on,especially that there are no concrete evidence,neither "flat" nor "round" neither ice walled around....for example,your video and plank face clear demonstration (sorry but you could sound naive to believe so vehement without experience ,especially that i can bet you have never got far enough from your globular earth to have a more real impression) are irrelevant especially with all those fish eyed lens going on this days.I mean look at this ,it (http://,it) reaches just 2 km lower than your guy,doesn't the horizon look flatter(should you question this clip,yes you should,as i will question all evidence that any one can bring)The amateur rocket did not come close even close the ISS altitude. The rocket went 121,000 feet. That is 22 miles. The ISS is travelling at 250 miles. Big difference.
..as i will question all evidence that any one can bring
That is just some of it. They can't find the location of the south pole, they can't explain why the north star can't be seen in the south hemisphere, They can measure accurate distances with their map, they can't explain lunar eclipse...as i will question all evidence that any one can bring
I believe i have found your problem. You can't sit on the fence forever,
Either the Earth is flat, or it is Round.
I have yet to see one shred of evidence in support of the flat earth model.
All I ever get around here is 'look out your window'.
No explanation of UA, No evidence of the Ice Wall, No photographs of the edge of the Earth, not even any poorly photoshopped ones. No explanation for satellites, no explanation for 6 month long days on the poles, no explanation for the seasons, no explanation for why other planets in our solar system are round and have moons orbiting them.
No explanation for why you can't see sky scrapers from other countries with a telescope, but you can see the moon? and other planets? And the ISS? When you are on top of the Burj Khalifa, You can not see the Eifel tower, You can not see the Pyrimids,
You can not see the empire state building. You can point a laser , and it will not be seen.
There is no explanation of this in FET. The closest I ever got to an explanation was that light was being bent by gravity and distorting our view. But then again, the FEer I was debating could not explain why Only the light from the sun was being 'bent' and not man made light sources, including radio signals.
The "Ice Wall" is simply what you call Antarctica.
Sure there is evidence. Just look at the UN logo.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjDqqwkyuZHpGuSbN0MKPNSQ6xdztAnOqsJP2-B49q3PHLsFh9)
but yes i can,i have no other options,for now there is only the "fence"..as i will question all evidence that any one can bring
I believe i have found your problem. You can't sit on the fence forever,
Either the Earth is flat, or it is Round.
What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?but yes i can,i have no other options,for now there is only the "fence"..as i will question all evidence that any one can bring
I believe i have found your problem. You can't sit on the fence forever,
Either the Earth is flat, or it is Round.
for me it is amazing that in the year 2014 there is still no real photographed evidence of earth being globed.and that raises questions like: what is NASA and other organisations like it and all that are implicated up to?
what is the tomorrow of mankind if all of today is flod?
thank you again for the struggle
Notice that, despite all of the other continents being represented, Antarctica is not. Suspicious?
Also, the Earth on their logo looks a lot like the FE map. Coincidence?
Notice that, despite all of the other continents being represented, Antarctica is not. Suspicious?
Also, the Earth on their logo looks a lot like the FE map. Coincidence?
What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.I am not asking you my question. He wants it to be "'real" but did not define it.
Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.What is your view on the use of satellites to receive data from aircraft every hour to send back to eg. Rolls Royce?
Sure there is evidence. Just look at the UN logo.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjDqqwkyuZHpGuSbN0MKPNSQ6xdztAnOqsJP2-B49q3PHLsFh9)
Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.
You've already been told iit's not high enough. He/she wants one from space that he/she can analyse to confirm it's legitimacy.What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
I think you would reject any picture.
Here's a solution, get a weather balloon, and a camera, and take your own photo's.
you can't dispute that can you?
Well go and get one and show the OP it. That's what is being asked for.Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.
Except that there are millions of genuine pictures and videos of space everywhere. You simply reject them because you refuse to admit that you are wrong. But you are. You're wrong.
He has to say EVERY picture EVER taken is a fake. Does not make any sense. Why would all that money and time be spend to take fake pictures that would benefit the world. We are talking about millions of pictures and videos.Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.
Except that there are millions of genuine pictures and videos of space everywhere. You simply reject them because you refuse to admit that you are wrong. But you are. You're wrong.
That is a fair answer. Define me real and who is going to take tour picture.What kind of photographed evidence would you accept to be valid?the kind that is real?i have already explained the details,for example the ISS is to low for the frame i wish for.
Well go and get one and show the OP it. That's what is being asked for.Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.
Except that there are millions of genuine pictures and videos of space everywhere. You simply reject them because you refuse to admit that you are wrong. But you are. You're wrong.
Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.precisely!but then again...no prof on either sides FE - RE
Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.precisely!but then again...no prof on either sides FE - RE
I absolutely agree, which is extremely odd. When you think of the billions upon billions that NASA has had until present day and the supposed space station, satellites, Hubble and moon walkers, etc, etc, etc and yet not one legitimate photo of Earth and no real proof of a rotating globe, except for desperate attempts like coriolis effect which they explain to people by using a FLAT roundabout, then a silly pendulum.Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.precisely!but then again...no prof on either sides FE - RE
I absolutely agree, which is extremely odd. When you think of the billions upon billions that NASA has had until present day and the supposed space station, satellites, hubble and moon walkers, etc, etc, etc and yet not one legitimate photo of Earth and no real proff of a rotating globe, except for desperate attempts like coriolis effect which they explain to people by using a FLAT roundabout, then a silly pendulum.Nobody will ever give you a picture of Earth from space, because nobody can get into space to do so. The fact that you've never seen a genuine picture of Earth from space should tell you all you need to know.precisely!but then again...no prof on either sides FE - RE
Flat Earth believers do not have any means to get into space and no budget for Hollywood type filming, even bad filming like the moon landing crap.
But anyway. Any person with any questioning mind would have to ask why everything about a globe or space that gets put out, either looked like paintings,CGI or manipulated video, down to models and all the rest of it.
Any pictures of Earth either show no stars in the background with the excuse that they can't be seen then they decide to put stars in and lots of them when it takes their fancy.
You may be on the fence but I bet you are slipping right off the global side, even if you don't believe in a flat Earth.
God you are retarded. Why do some pictures of space have stars in them and some don't? What is the RE excuse. You tell us, because we are sick of holding your hand.No need to hold my hand, I'm doing just fine. You can get as frustrated as you want but you won't get anywhere doing it, except high blood pressure and a headache.
God you are retarded. Why do some pictures of space have stars in them and some don't? What is the RE excuse. You tell us, because we are sick of holding your hand.No need to hold my hand, I'm doing just fine. You can get as frustrated as you want but you won't get anywhere doing it, except high blood pressure and a headache.
I'll give you your due though. You do try. If you can't throw them off the scent, then attempt ridicule. It doesn't appear to work in this case, now does it?
Stars appear in pictures as and when it's decided the picture fits reality that amateur astronomers see through their little scopes.
Fucktard, let me get something through your head. I merrily call you an idiot. I'm not upset about it. I'm just referring to you by what I think you appropriately are. I'm typing on a keboard, I live on the earth, I'm drinking coffee, you're an idiot. All facts.The OP wants a picture of the Earth. He doesn't mind if it's stitched or whatever as long as the pictures are of a real Earth from SPACE so he can analyse for himself. Now you say you have lots of them, so put a few up for him. It's a reasonable ask.
Wrong answer on the stars thing. Show us you aren't stupid sceppy. You don't even have to know the answer. All you have to do is show us that you know how to use a modern search engine. I believe in you!
It's insane that people in these forums act like this stuff doesn't exist. I get that you don't believe it is real, but to act as if RE'rs haven't shown you stuff like this before is bat shit crazy.He's been told about the stars and exposure levels about 50 fucking times. Not accepting the explanation is one thing, but pretending he has never heard it before it straight up lying.
Fucktard, let me get something through your head. I merrily call you an idiot. I'm not upset about it. I'm just referring to you by what I think you appropriately are. I'm typing on a keboard, I live on the earth, I'm drinking coffee, you're an idiot. All facts.The OP wants a picture of the Earth. He doesn't mind if it's stitched or whatever as long as the pictures are of a real Earth from SPACE so he can analyse for himself. Now you say you have lots of them, so put a few up for him. It's a reasonable ask.
Wrong answer on the stars thing. Show us you aren't stupid sceppy. You don't even have to know the answer. All you have to do is show us that you know how to use a modern search engine. I believe in you!
I would do it myself but I can't find any real pictures of Earth from space.
Is your coffee, nice? ;)
as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
You seem to type a lot and say nothing. Back to the tread what are you looking for in simple questions.then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
:) but me...i am simple and easy to convince with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing
then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
:) but me...i am simple and easy to convince with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing
for you i may be insane or even worse :-[ but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
:) but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing
You are insane.
What do you define as a perfect picture and who is doing to take it?for you i may be insane or even worse :-[ but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
:) but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing
You are insane.
i have never write i am looking for the perfect picture but for a true picture,as for the second part of your question i just don't get it "who is doing to take it"?hmm just a second . if you refer to who is able to take it i presume some of the space agencies from around the world,correct?What do you define as a perfect picture and who is doing to take it?for you i may be insane or even worse :-[ but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please
I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.
:) but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing
You are insane.
if you look with an eye of a person who can appreciate proportions you will notice that the land mass is to big for all the continents to fit on this,a bit,to small globe,but first of all is to round compared to the scientific findings.about proportions ask a friend good at mathematics to help you.
i have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?if you look with an eye of a person who can appreciate proportions you will notice that the land mass is to big for all the continents to fit on this,a bit,to small globe,but first of all is to round compared to the scientific findings.about proportions ask a friend good at mathematics to help you.
Please bare in mind the Earth is round, take that into account when you look at a two dimensional photograph.
Have you ever held an atlas?
you know, one of these:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/00/s/MjIxWDIyOA==/z/nIwAAMXQUmFSlSiR/$_35.JPG (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/00/s/MjIxWDIyOA==/z/nIwAAMXQUmFSlSiR/$_35.JPG)
if not, buy one and do your pseudo calculations on land mass.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/161160983244 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/161160983244)
Compare an atlas to the images of the earth, and you will see the exact same proportions.
Now, You are trying to be objective right? but really you have a flat earth motive, because you have not brought anything to the table.
please provide proof for the flat earth if you believe the round earth is false.
Remember, merely dismissing round earth evidence is not in itself proof for a flat earth.
Also, you apparently did the 'calculations'? why not demonstrate them here?
(if you have a friend that works on 3D computer programs ask him to make a close similar model of this proportions and textures and you will see how light behaves considering all the details)
Wide angle lenses will do that.No. Wrong, as the panels were straight.
The panels are much closer. Please read up on how wide angle lenses work differently on near and distant objects.I have a wide angle lens, it does not distort like that.
i have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?
apparently you did not follow the thread cause i have stated a few times : i do not take parts,for the reason i bring to the table : the quest it's self.i have no proof to bring on because there is none on either side.to be more precise i don't believe in a flat earth but also i have to question what this lack of images(picture or video) means.
i have rejected just one of the photos you provided based on the apparent land mass calculation and i am sorry but at the moment i have no friend around to do the calculus so it is fine,i am being naive in this casei have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?
apparently you did not follow the thread cause i have stated a few times : i do not take parts,for the reason i bring to the table : the quest it's self.i have no proof to bring on because there is none on either side.to be more precise i don't believe in a flat earth but also i have to question what this lack of images(picture or video) means.
You rejected some of the photo's I posted based on the apparent land mass calculations.
Please, demonstrate. Or be held guilty of being naive.
Please ask your friend in calculus to do the same calculations with an atlas.
Thanks.
in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.
i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.
you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.
i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.
you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.
I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.i like you cause you have a healthy way of viewing things
How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.
No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.
Unfortunately for you, being on the fence makes you an instant enemy of certain global earth indoctrinates and they will attack you the very second you question ANYTHING against what they are trained for.I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.i like you cause you have a healthy way of viewing things
How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.
No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.
it is just one thing i hope it is clear for everybody,i take no sides even if this can seem annoying to some,but this thread is not started to attract differences but to come to a conclusion(notfruit i know you know).i am just trying to answer to all that address something on the subject even if it's remote,but it seams that this is a fiery discussion for some and most of the people that try to interact here(The Flat Earth Society » Flat Earth Discussion Boards » Flat Earth Debate) are just liking to be rude towards me ore someone that is on one "team" or the other.
rude people should not be so...it is dangerous for progress(even for the darkside :P )...we all now that
phew....i thought you where one of them attackers and i was tired of defending without wanting to fight at all.I won't attack you. I welcome anyone who has an open mind. My mind is totally closed off to a rotating globe but I'm open to many other suggestions. I've had my fill of being indoctrinated into a rotating globe.
:D even if your insertion is not on topic :P thank you for the wave of calmness...cause this is what it feels like since joined in this site(2 days ago)
i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.
you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.
Umm.. what? There are literally thousands of photographs of the earth/moon taken from space. Are you seriously expressing doubt of their validity based on a search with google images? What exactly were you expecting?
As my fellow roundies have said, your criteria for a 'legit' photograph of the earth from space is completely arbitrary. Every photo posted so far, you've replied with a nonsensical rejection of it. It seems your incredulity precedes your reasoning as, apparently, you don't think the earth is either flat or round, thus every photograph taken of earth from space is met with immediate skepticism regardless of what the photograph actually shows.
Either way, I think you'll fit in well with the other FE's here as it seems you have a knack for a) not properly explaining yourself, b) ignoring the vast body of empirical evidence that the earth is indeed a rotating oblate spheroid and c) that space travel & satellites is as demonstrably true as anything else you consider a fact.
I welcome anyone who has an open mind. My mind is totally closed off to a rotating globe but I'm open to many other suggestions.
I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.
How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.
No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.
the ultimate proof for all the flat earthers will be an answer to this post,or the lack of it will may imply more discussions.but to the truth for all of us(the usual people,not astronauts and whatever)there is a lack of proof quite important : the visual proof.and please for anyone reading for the first time this tread there are no proofs/evidence of this kind for the general public,at least not on the www open to us.I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.
How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.
No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.
I agree but the problem is any evidence the Flat Earthers will call fake or a con. Flat Earthers rarely provide any evidence besides some old book from the 1800s or ideas and beliefs. They don't have any valid reason to believe what they do other than it coincides with their conspiracy beliefs. I wish we could have actual side by side evidence and compare, but I have not see this yet.
in the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
if it is ok with everybody(icluding you ofcourse) i propose youin the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
Most RE'ers don't have problem with deciding creditably of pictures or videos. It is the FE'ers that seem to deny everything.if it is ok with everybody(icluding you ofcourse) i propose youin the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
but please be responsible and recognize the real deal
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.
And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.(http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/software/v/samples/samples_clip_image004.gif)
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
And this is the best they can come up with.Well it surely beats any of the images that the flat earthers have posted here..... oh..... wait.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real.You can refuse to disbelieve anything you like mate. But you should be aware that this is precisely what makes you so ignorant about matters scientific LOL
In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.So where are your flat earth images that show that this image is not real? You do have some images of the alleged flat earth don't you sceptimatic?
as we can see this one clearly states it is a composite satellite image.
thank you for posting
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.oh come on :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do . from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
apparently FErs disbelieve the science and RErs just like to cast a slur upon their fellow earthlings and some not see what is in front of them,or most...what is not there at all.i will not even bother to repost the image provided for now,but come on...anywhere????are you positively sure??please respond ausGeoff...as we can see this one clearly states it is a composite satellite image.
thank you for posting
No, it doesn't say anywhere that it's a "composite" image. Please read the description more fully before rushing to dispute its authenticity. That way, you'll (possibly) avoid looking like a fool when your error is pointed out.
This image is NOT a composite. It's a combination (different thing altogether) or an overlay of of a geostationary satellite image and a polar orbiting satellite image. One is IR and one is visible spectrum.
No, it doesn't say anywhere that it's a "composite" image. Please read the description more fully before rushing to dispute its authenticity. That way, you'll (possibly) avoid looking like a fool when your error is pointed out.
This image is NOT a composite. It's a combination (different thing altogether) or an overlay of of a geostationary satellite image and a polar orbiting satellite image. One is IR and one is visible spectrum.
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.(http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/software/v/samples/samples_clip_image004.gif)
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.(http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/software/v/samples/samples_clip_image004.gif)
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.oh come on :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do . from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
You people live in a cartoon world. You are old enough to know better and yet here you are relying on cartoons of all descriptions.There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.oh come on :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do . from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
And your world is a cell. How sweet is that.You people live in a cartoon world. You are old enough to know better and yet here you are relying on cartoons of all descriptions.There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.oh come on :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do . from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
how can you be so sure about it?never is a long time :)You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.(http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/software/v/samples/samples_clip_image004.gif)
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.how can you be so sure about it?never is a long time :)You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.(http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/software/v/samples/samples_clip_image004.gif)
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
but you starman can you approve that this moving frame image falls under the specifications?it is a composite image non the less.
as a side question....for example...if i make an image of a face out of many others can you tell that person really exists?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ53V4yInoZ3VhTVUykFMuD9FmLXe6qAp1rrklijzt5JQ9sG4R1g (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ53V4yInoZ3VhTVUykFMuD9FmLXe6qAp1rrklijzt5JQ9sG4R1g)
i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/ (http://faceresearch.org/)So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.
Nope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/ (http://faceresearch.org/)So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
why?do you know the guy? :D
I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..
i like games,maybe i will start like you too...let's seeNope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/ (http://faceresearch.org/)So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
why?do you know the guy? :D
I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..
Nope. the first is we were having a discussion about real pictures without information and you send me one. Even without looking i know you would send me a fake picture.i like games,maybe i will start like you too...let's seeNope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/ (http://faceresearch.org/)So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
why?do you know the guy? :D
one,because of the weird hairdude?and second...i think i don't know...the background(as you said??)
On any photograph you have to have the sense of presence to understand what is real or not. If I show a picture of Santa to a 4 year old he will be believe it. If it show the same picture in a asylum some may believe it. If my wife took a picture of a UFO it would believe the picture was taken from her. If I see events from FOX, CNN or BBC I will full confidence that is it 100% real. I have the sense to know those networks are real and not running under world conspiracy.I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..
do you agree to be the judge of the photograph?
if yes,do you understand the requirements of the photograph/video?they are cited in a previous post
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At NASA we make all the workers do crossword puzzles and fool the public into thinking we are launching Space Shuttles. All GPS Industry is not real
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On any photograph you have to have the sense of presence to understand what is real or not. If I show a picture of Santa to a 4 year old he will be believe it. If it show the same picture in a asylum some may believe it. If my wife took a picture of a UFO it would believe the picture was taken from her. If I see events from FOX, CNN or BBC I will full confidence that is it 100% real. I have the sense to know those networks are real and not running under world conspiracy.I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird ??? why is that?I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you?
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..
do you agree to be the judge of the photograph?
if yes,do you understand the requirements of the photograph/video?they are cited in a previous post
This is Thought Police Control. We have detected some of you are discovering the Flat Earth truth. Prepare for annihilation. You have cracked our code.i am part of neither of the organisations Round or Flat and i have laser and other kind's of shielding against any kind of annihilation.muahahaha!!!!!!
At NASA we make all the workers do crossword puzzles and fool the public into thinking we are launching Space Shuttles. All GPS Industry is not real
THERE IS NO SPOON!
You have found the truth. We will zap our laser beams into your home and silence you. This crusade must end. The Round Earth Cult must carry on our agenda.
Flat Earthers- Prepare for deletion...
i have my own crusade : of finding the truth,whatever that my be.so Thought Police Control can go beg attention elsewhere
how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg (http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg) this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter)
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg (https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg) just for the fun of it
that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful blue atmosphere.how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg (http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg) this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter)
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg (https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg) just for the fun of it
I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.
This may help in detailed view of Antarctica. http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful blue atmosphere.how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg (http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg) this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter)
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg (https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg) just for the fun of it
I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.
thanks...this might have a hint of way there is no above non composite photograph,though it does not explain in details,we can just imagjne : "Pan to view the continent and zoom in to see the stunning detail of this Natural-Color, Pan-Sharpened LIMA (bands 3, 2, 1). LIMA covers the entire continent except from the South Pole at 90 degrees south to 82.5 degrees south latitude, where Landsat has no coverage because of its near-polar orbit. To provide a continental view, the image above has LIMA 3, 2, 1 overlaying the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA). "This may help in detailed view of Antarctica. http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful blue atmosphere.how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg (http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg) this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter)
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg (https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg) just for the fun of it
I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.
Landstat covers all of the earth. That is why they use polar orbits.thanks...this might have a hint of way there is no above non composite photograph,though it does not explain in details,we can just imagjne : "Pan to view the continent and zoom in to see the stunning detail of this Natural-Color, Pan-Sharpened LIMA (bands 3, 2, 1). LIMA covers the entire continent except from the South Pole at 90 degrees south to 82.5 degrees south latitude, where Landsat has no coverage because of its near-polar orbit. To provide a continental view, the image above has LIMA 3, 2, 1 overlaying the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA). "This may help in detailed view of Antarctica. http://lima.usgs.gov/ (http://lima.usgs.gov/)that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful blue atmosphere.how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg (http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg) this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter)
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg (https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg) just for the fun of it
I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.
So... until the flat earthers can post an alternative photographic image, we can safely assume that the image I posted is legitimate. The ball is fairly and squarely in your court flat earthers.
Go for it... if you can.
You don't even have a good map in the FE.So... until the flat earthers can post an alternative photographic image, we can safely assume that the image I posted is legitimate. The ball is fairly and squarely in your court flat earthers.
Go for it... if you can.
What? If the FE'ers can't fake a picture as well as NASA, then NASA automatically wins? Is this a photoshop contest? Are you drunk or something? That makes no logical sense and only makes it seem that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel out of desperation.
How many maps have you made?I ask you first.
What? If the FE'ers can't fake a picture as well as NASA, then NASA automatically wins? Is this a photoshop contest? Are you drunk or something? That makes no logical sense and only makes it seem that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel out of desperation.
No, you made a statement. I responded with an interrogative. Get it right.
Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not). All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth.
No, you made a statement. I responded with an interrogative. Get it right.
Wrong again jroa. You responded with one of your typical rhetorical non-answers. You cannot answer a question with another question—or "interrogative" as you frame it LOL.
And I have to say your lack of sensible answers that actually address the question in hand is becoming somewhat boring. And predictable.
Very good, and you can show that distances tie up with reality? eg Sydney to Santiago.Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not). All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth.
Oh, in that case, here you go.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq6mzJRD2zXgIhUbA3zsVkY0TyCNQ7hy5pAJ8bTD95s177jNOmzg)
Another win for the FES.
Very good, and you can show that distances tie up with reality? eg Sydney to Santiago.Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not). All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth.
Oh, in that case, here you go.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq6mzJRD2zXgIhUbA3zsVkY0TyCNQ7hy5pAJ8bTD95s177jNOmzg)
Another win for the FES.
Oh, in that case, here you go.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq6mzJRD2zXgIhUbA3zsVkY0TyCNQ7hy5pAJ8bTD95s177jNOmzg)
Another win for the FES.
Oh, in that case, here you go.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq6mzJRD2zXgIhUbA3zsVkY0TyCNQ7hy5pAJ8bTD95s177jNOmzg)
Another win for the FES.
I'm sorry jroa, but are you serious in posting this little cartoon? Do you truly believe that this diagram accurately represents the true geometry of our planet?
When I ask for flat earth images, of course I mean actual photographic images (such as those I've posted courtesy NASA), not cartoons that an eighth-grader could cobble together LOL. Or is it that you simply don't have any real, photographic images? Tsk, tsk, tsk.....
If this is truly the best image that flat earthers can produce, then your cause is definitely a lost one.
Please show one with a scale and correct, verified, distances.Very good, and you can show that distances tie up with reality? eg Sydney to Santiago.Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not). All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth.
Oh, in that case, here you go.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq6mzJRD2zXgIhUbA3zsVkY0TyCNQ7hy5pAJ8bTD95s177jNOmzg)
Another win for the FES.
Sure, I can show you distances on this map. That does not mean they will be correct, though. ausGeoff said he did not care if it is real or not, he just wanted a picture, so I obliged him.
Why are you changing the goal posts, Inquistimatic?I am not, you are choosing an answer that avoids the question. Just post a scale map of a flat earth with verified distances.
Why are you changing the goal posts, Inquistimatic?I am not, you are choosing an answer that avoids the question. Just post a scale map of a flat earth with verified distances.
You even specified that you didn't care if it was a real picture. I provided you with the picture, exactly to your terms.
You provided a Photoshop image that resemble a cartoon.Why are you changing the goal posts, Inquistimatic?I am not, you are choosing an answer that avoids the question. Just post a scale map of a flat earth with verified distances.
The question was for a flat Earth picture, whether it was real or not. I provided that. Now, you are derailing this thread into scale maps. Unbelievable.
Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
Look it up, do'nt waste the time of people here.How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
Look it up for yourself. How are you going to learn if you don't learn by yourself.How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Sorry we would not want to waste any time on this forum would we.Look it up, do'nt waste the time of people here.How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
How does the machine know what he wants to say?
If you don't look it up you are wasting our time. It was your question not ours.Sorry we would not want to waste any time on this forum would we.Look it up, do'nt waste the time of people here.How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
I will go look it up.
I will be back tomorrow.
helloooo!!!guuuuysss!!!get of my threeead pleaseWho is going to take your single perfect photo?
here on this site there is a special place for the kind of behavior that is developing amongst you it is called "Complete Nonsense".here is a link : http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=13.0 (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=13.0)
as for you ausGeoff i can ask the same question you've earlier pose to a flat earther : "Apparently, you're still unable to post even one single photographic image. Is that correct? A simple yes or no will suffice.".what i mean is you have no gut in your system but pretend to.
...as for you ausGeoff i can ask the same question you've earlier pose to a flat earther: "Apparently, you're still unable to post even one single photographic image. Is that correct? A simple yes or no will suffice."
Is your google broken again? Seriously, you are always trying to get everyone else to look up facts for you.How does the machine know what he wants to say?yup!The cartoon map will kiss him because he will laugh so much. To him it is like a 3 years old drawing a house with stick people.Seriously? Give this cartoon to Stephen Hawking and see what sort of response you'd get LOL.Can Stephen Hawking actually respond ?
Hang on I think I must be missing something here. Is this the same Hawking they wheel in with a machine for a voice?
If you don't look it up you are wasting our time. It was your question not ours.
Is your Google broken again? Seriously, you are always trying to get everyone else to look up facts for you.
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...as for you ausGeoff i can ask the same question you've earlier pose to a flat earther: "Apparently, you're still unable to post even one single photographic image. Is that correct? A simple yes or no will suffice."
So can I ask you personally djuptsjomaour? Can you please post one single, authentic, photographic image that clearly illustrates your model of the alleged flat earth?
Otherwise, all I can do is to repeat my earlier comment: "Apparently, you're still unable to post even one single photographic image. Is that correct? A simple yes or no will suffice."
—What'll it be djuptsjomaour? Yes or no?
Give me ONE flat Earth similar to any of these (that show the actual world, not just a person) https://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/)
The pictures are real pictures. Unfortunately what they are meant to depict is the real problem.
Your beach picture depicts as much curvature as some as those pictures .Give me ONE flat Earth similar to any of these (that show the actual world, not just a person) https://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/)
Excellent link and great images.
But I can predict that every flat earther will simply dismiss them all as bogus. Or part of the NASA conspiracy. Or that they're simply optical illusions, or that they were all snapped with a "fish-eye" lens, or the cameraman was drunk, or that Jodi Foster is not a lesbian.....
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 ..........
;D
The pictures are real pictures. Unfortunately what they are meant to depict is the real problem.That is the first time i ever heard you say: "The pictures are real pictures"
You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.The details are too intense to be a model.
What are you talking about, the details are too intense to be a model. You obviously haven't looked at scale models before if you think that.You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.The details are too intense to be a model.
How do you know it is a model. Don't tell me because you BELIEVE. Prove me it is a model.What are you talking about, the details are too intense to be a model. You obviously haven't looked at scale models before if you think that.You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.The details are too intense to be a model.
The details are only details that you believe to be the real thing, so how in the hell would you know whether it was a model or not. It's not like you've personally inspected it in real time, is it?
How do you know it is a model. Don't tell me because you BELIEVE. Prove me it is a model.I can't directly prove it's a model, no more than you can prove it isn't a model. It's down to basic logic and common sense. Some have it and some don't.
If you can't prove it either way than you can't say it is a fake or not.How do you know it is a model. Don't tell me because you BELIEVE. Prove me it is a model.I can't directly prove it's a model, no more than you can prove it isn't a model. It's down to basic logic and common sense. Some have it and some don't.
Oh, I can but not by looking at the model. Just by using simple common sense and seeing the pathetic live footage of space walks and silly experiments the bad actors do.If you can't prove it either way than you can't say it is a fake or not.How do you know it is a model. Don't tell me because you BELIEVE. Prove me it is a model.I can't directly prove it's a model, no more than you can prove it isn't a model. It's down to basic logic and common sense. Some have it and some don't.
I am, why?He'd like to make a long distance call.
I am, why?aaa.... nothing really
You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.
Behind the cockpit there is that large probe/tube sticking into the cargo area zoom in on the wiring that is on it.You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.
And exactly what evidence do you possess that confirms your apparent belief it's a 4ft to 6ft "model".
Absolutely none. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
Or are you gonna drag out your trusty ol' straight edge one more time? ;D
I could tell it was a remote control by just looking at it fly. There is a big difference between the real helicopter and a toy one. Ask me how i cam tell.Behind the cockpit there is that large probe/tube sticking into the cargo area zoom in on the wiring that is on it.You roundies would not be able to tell that the space shuttle in those photos is a toy roughly between 4ft to 6ft long.
And exactly what evidence do you possess that confirms your apparent belief it's a 4ft to 6ft "model".
Absolutely none. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
Or are you gonna drag out your trusty ol' straight edge one more time? ;D
The wiring is 3mm single core its a model. If you are unsure about this open up any appliance you have at home it will match the layout of that wiring perfectly.
If that shuttle was real that wiring diameter would be to heavy to be as pliable as it is in the picture.
And don't come back with crap that its hydraulic lines etc. as they would be run in metal tubing.
Here is another model for you.
R/C Mi-24 Hind Helicopter Turbine Powered SICK!! (http://#)
Explain the wiring in that shuttle picture.It is not totally for wiring. It is safer to put certain items outside than inside. As for the toy. The real helicopter blade rotation is about 400 rpm. The toy could not fly at the same speed as the real one. The model have to spin it faster to get lift. It runs at about 2400 rpm. One the video of the model you can see the rotation is just a blur. Spinning very fast. I should know i have 4 remotes control ones.
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
Stop getting a hard on over the toy helicopter. Jeez I wish I had never posted it.Explain the wiring in that shuttle picture.It is not totally for wiring. It is safer to put certain items outside than inside. As for the toy. The real helicopter blade rotation is about 400 rpm. The toy could not fly at the same speed as the real one. The model have to spin it faster to get lift. It runs at about 2400 rpm. One the video of the model you can see the rotation is just a blur. Spinning very fast. I should know i have 4 remotes control ones.
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
That post is awesome.
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
But not nearly as much as you flat earthers love claiming that every picture of every shuttle and every satellite is bogus LOL.
You have absolutely no viable evidence to support any of these "model" claims of course, but that doesn't stop you repeating them ad nauseam does it?
It also amuses me endlessly that you seriously expect us round earthers to accept absolutely your obviously doctored images of the beach and straight edge you've posted here numerous times, but at the same time dismiss all round earthers' photos as fakes.
It'd be pathetic were it not so funny. But then I guess this sort of irony is lost on people like you tappet?
Carma is a bitch!That would be karma.
The Death Star looked pretty realistic as wellIt did?!? You must have been on some serious drugs back then.
Notice that, despite all of the other continents being represented, Antarctica is not. Suspicious?
Also, the Earth on their logo looks a lot like the FE map. Coincidence?
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
But not nearly as much as you flat earthers love claiming that every picture of every shuttle and every satellite is bogus LOL.
You have absolutely no viable evidence to support any of these "model" claims of course, but that doesn't stop you repeating them ad nauseam does it?
It also amuses me endlessly that you seriously expect us round earthers to accept absolutely your obviously doctored images of the beach and straight edge you've posted here numerous times, but at the same time dismiss all round earthers' photos as fakes.
It'd be pathetic were it not so funny. But then I guess this sort of irony is lost on people like you tappet?
Notice that, despite all of the other continents being represented, Antarctica is not. Suspicious?
Also, the Earth on their logo looks a lot like the FE map. Coincidence?
There is nothing suspicious about the UN logo. It is simply that - a logo. And the only coincidence is that is simply a stylized version of the Unipolar Projection of the globe. Nothing suspicious about the Ice Ring not being shown Again the UN logo is just a simplified stylized logo. It looks neater without the Ice Ring. Besides some FE's say there is no FE Map. The Unipolar Projection Map has been around quite some time.
Yeh I get it. You think I am stupid and pathetic so phukin what. Now how about you explain the 3mm wire on your toy shuttle.
The helicopter is for entertainment only as I know you guys love toy models.
But not nearly as much as you flat earthers love claiming that every picture of every shuttle and every satellite is bogus LOL.
You have absolutely no viable evidence to support any of these "model" claims of course, but that doesn't stop you repeating them ad nauseam does it?
It also amuses me endlessly that you seriously expect us round earthers to accept absolutely your obviously doctored images of the beach and straight edge you've posted here numerous times, but at the same time dismiss all round earthers' photos as fakes.
It'd be pathetic were it not so funny. But then I guess this sort of irony is lost on people like you tappet?
There is a review of a rather bad book on another website , which different reviewers called it "pathetic" and another one called it "so stupid it's funny." Sometimes I think that applies to this website. LOL.
Still another reviewer called the book "the worst book ever commercially published." No comment on that, but I sometimes wonder about this website.LOL.
Antarctica is a continent, not just a ring of ice.So all the maps we have (and use) of Antarctica are completely and utterly wrong?
this debate is going to nowhere,i hope you all realize that.it is transforming in a complete waste of time for all sides,especially for the side that is in the middle of the round and flat eartheres : which is exactly the theme of this topic that most of you avoid or seems you have forgotten.How many pictures would you like and what would make them credible to you? There may be many, but not published.
my personal opinion is that the debate is immature and as i started..it leads to nothing constructive.
come on!and lets join together to do this!hmm?
so far we have some really nice pictures but the ones with earth from outer space from whatever angle(from a sufficient distance to see the whole rim of the alleged globe/disc*) still lacks the details to make them credible beyond doubt.
*though keep in mid that the debate is not about the roundness or flatness of Earth,this is more as a guideline,a base for what are we here to find out through the means of photographic media,in motion or not.
to eliminate a possible question : we are here to find out why there are so few pictures and videos(that are lacking credibility as a whole,not the ones that are composite,ok?)with earth from outer space especially with all the technology and deep space missions after the year 2000.
the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.)this debate is going to nowhere,i hope you all realize that.it is transforming in a complete waste of time for all sides,especially for the side that is in the middle of the round and flat eartheres : which is exactly the theme of this topic that most of you avoid or seems you have forgotten.How many pictures would you like and what would make them credible to you? There may be many, but not published.
my personal opinion is that the debate is immature and as i started..it leads to nothing constructive.
come on!and lets join together to do this!hmm?
so far we have some really nice pictures but the ones with earth from outer space from whatever angle(from a sufficient distance to see the whole rim of the alleged globe/disc*) still lacks the details to make them credible beyond doubt.
*though keep in mid that the debate is not about the roundness or flatness of Earth,this is more as a guideline,a base for what are we here to find out through the means of photographic media,in motion or not.
to eliminate a possible question : we are here to find out why there are so few pictures and videos(that are lacking credibility as a whole,not the ones that are composite,ok?)with earth from outer space especially with all the technology and deep space missions after the year 2000.
see dvidshub.netthe most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.)this debate is going to nowhere,i hope you all realize that.it is transforming in a complete waste of time for all sides,especially for the side that is in the middle of the round and flat eartheres : which is exactly the theme of this topic that most of you avoid or seems you have forgotten.How many pictures would you like and what would make them credible to you? There may be many, but not published.
my personal opinion is that the debate is immature and as i started..it leads to nothing constructive.
come on!and lets join together to do this!hmm?
so far we have some really nice pictures but the ones with earth from outer space from whatever angle(from a sufficient distance to see the whole rim of the alleged globe/disc*) still lacks the details to make them credible beyond doubt.
*though keep in mid that the debate is not about the roundness or flatness of Earth,this is more as a guideline,a base for what are we here to find out through the means of photographic media,in motion or not.
to eliminate a possible question : we are here to find out why there are so few pictures and videos(that are lacking credibility as a whole,not the ones that are composite,ok?)with earth from outer space especially with all the technology and deep space missions after the year 2000.
sorry but this is the best i could find that can relate to the idea.
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.)this debate is going to nowhere,i hope you all realize that.it is transforming in a complete waste of time for all sides,especially for the side that is in the middle of the round and flat eartheres : which is exactly the theme of this topic that most of you avoid or seems you have forgotten.How many pictures would you like and what would make them credible to you? There may be many, but not published.
my personal opinion is that the debate is immature and as i started..it leads to nothing constructive.
come on!and lets join together to do this!hmm?
so far we have some really nice pictures but the ones with earth from outer space from whatever angle(from a sufficient distance to see the whole rim of the alleged globe/disc*) still lacks the details to make them credible beyond doubt.
*though keep in mid that the debate is not about the roundness or flatness of Earth,this is more as a guideline,a base for what are we here to find out through the means of photographic media,in motion or not.
to eliminate a possible question : we are here to find out why there are so few pictures and videos(that are lacking credibility as a whole,not the ones that are composite,ok?)with earth from outer space especially with all the technology and deep space missions after the year 2000.
sorry but this is the best i could find that can relate to the idea.
now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
The posted picture are really good. I am no sure what are you asking for.now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
if so...is my imagination that the Earth is round or flat?
and...it is the most easy way to accept what is "there",but that does implies is the answer?
each and everyone has his/hers own opinion.
i am not pleased..i am not so easygoing...sorry starman
???? the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. ???? (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.???)The posted picture are really good. I am no sure what are you asking for.now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
if so...is my imagination that the Earth is round or flat?
and...it is the most easy way to accept what is "there",but that does implies is the answer?
each and everyone has his/hers own opinion.
i am not pleased..i am not so easygoing...sorry starman
I have seen a few like that but it is taken from wide angle. I dough you will find the one without wide angle. I will look for some. The last link you posted does not work.???? the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. ???? (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.???)The posted picture are really good. I am no sure what are you asking for.now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
if so...is my imagination that the Earth is round or flat?
and...it is the most easy way to accept what is "there",but that does implies is the answer?
each and everyone has his/hers own opinion.
i am not pleased..i am not so easygoing...sorry starman
oh..the last one is just a still picture with the samevideo.it it the idea of it,some stellar background and the whole EarthI have seen a few like that but it is taken from wide angle. I dough you will find the one without wide angle. I will look for some. The last link you posted does not work.???? the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. ???? (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.???)The posted picture are really good. I am no sure what are you asking for.now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
if so...is my imagination that the Earth is round or flat?
and...it is the most easy way to accept what is "there",but that does implies is the answer?
each and everyone has his/hers own opinion.
i am not pleased..i am not so easygoing...sorry starman
The last one came with 404 error.oh..the last one is just a still picture with the samevideo.it it the idea of it,some stellar background and the whole EarthI have seen a few like that but it is taken from wide angle. I dough you will find the one without wide angle. I will look for some. The last link you posted does not work.???? the most credible of them all should be something like this trip upwards,getting further away than just a simple horizon (http://) of course without the logo going on ;D ,real / not CGI and in a real time footage if possible.or at least a photograph similar in clarity if not even better than this http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png. ???? (http://yuq.me/users/16/937/QkRL0tJMZD.png.???)The posted picture are really good. I am no sure what are you asking for.now...was this comment a contribution to the discussion?
I am always find it funny when someone orders a video or picture to please their imagination. Space is not like traveling to the grand canyon to take special pictures. You have to accept what is there or forget it.
if so...is my imagination that the Earth is round or flat?
and...it is the most easy way to accept what is "there",but that does implies is the answer?
each and everyone has his/hers own opinion.
i am not pleased..i am not so easygoing...sorry starman
Both sides of this need to learn how to link stuff.true..
Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
Any particular reason why the camera never shakes or the reason for water on the camera lens, or the noise the bootsers are making in a near vacuum. Any answers would be appreciated.Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
What? You mean the one where the ocean waves just go into suspended animation?Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
this one is the closest thing yet!nice!
The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Any particular reason why the camera never shakes or the reason for water on the camera lens, or the noise the bootsers are making in a near vacuum. Any answers would be appreciated.Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
while the one starman posted is nice this one is even better considering that from the minute 12:46 to 12:49 we can see two horizons,one under and other above in a way,but still not complete.it seams a breakthrough is approaching!this is the way!Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
You can't see waves that high move. If you don't like don't watch it.What? You mean the one where the ocean waves just go into suspended animation?Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
this one is the closest thing yet!nice!
Your welcome!!while the one starman posted is nice this one is even better considering that from the minute 12:46 to 12:49 we can see two horizons,one under and other above in a way,but still not complete.it seams a breakthrough is approaching!this is the way!Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
thank you!
The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Any particular reason why the camera never shakes or the reason for water on the camera lens, or the noise the bootsers are making in a near vacuum. Any answers would be appreciated.Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Would you like to have another go at that or do you want to stand by what you just said?
If you just edge your body in a little more and use a longer handle on the blade, you may be able to scrape a little more from the bottom of the barrel.The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Any particular reason why the camera never shakes or the reason for water on the camera lens, or the noise the bootsers are making in a near vacuum. Any answers would be appreciated.Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:I think i prefer this one: (http://)
(http://)
And, as for the water, my best GUESS is that the booster dropped down through the wake of the main engine, still burning, and there was enough moisture on the lens that as it did so, the condensation occurred.
You explain it since you brought it up.The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Would you like to have another go at that or do you want to stand by what you just said?
Haha; oh, but I do like it, I think it's comical how they dupe people with silly backgrounds and model effigies, which anyone with even 5% of their normal sense should be able to see how silly it all is.You can't see waves that high move. If you don't like don't watch it.What? You mean the one where the ocean waves just go into suspended animation?Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
this one is the closest thing yet!nice!
If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Haha; oh, but I do like it, I think it's comical how they dupe people with silly backgrounds and model effigies, which anyone with even 5% of their normal sense should be able to see how silly it all is.You can't see waves that high move. If you don't like don't watch it.What? You mean the one where the ocean waves just go into suspended animation?Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
this one is the closest thing yet!nice!
The waves certainly aren't that far away when it supposedly takes off, yet they seem to just stop, as if they go into suspended animation, or maybe the waves all stopped together in awe of the big rocket that's just launched. Yeah, that's probably it.
I just did. A model effigy against a background image. Similar things can be done on grand theft auto when you steal a helicopter and various other stuff like simulators, etc.You explain it since you brought it up.The camera is attached to a frame of the rocket that is very massive and heavy. The sounds can be heard by SMALL vibrations on the frame. You should be smart enough to figure that out. You just want to find things are look fake.Would you like to have another go at that or do you want to stand by what you just said?
If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Yeah, I suppose I've seen enough to see it all for what it is. Ridiculous and pathetically faked. Carry on slinging them up and I'll let people know the silliness.
hey..relax...it is still a long way 'till we find the picture to calm us all down.i mean we still need to see some space around the globe to be certain is a globe and not just a camera illusion as this one http://www.colourbox.com/preview/2347168-240178-a-360-degree-panoramic-view-of-the-fall-foliage-in-meriden-connecticut-and-hubbard-park-from-craigs-castle.jpg (http://www.colourbox.com/preview/2347168-240178-a-360-degree-panoramic-view-of-the-fall-foliage-in-meriden-connecticut-and-hubbard-park-from-craigs-castle.jpg)What? You mean the one where the ocean waves just go into suspended animation?Don't know what went wrong with the last one. Let me try this one:wow starman!this one is just great!!that is the thing i am referring at just(and please don't take it as aggressive or personal)is half of the trip i am expecting to.what i mean is that will be a great asset for all to observe that horizon,depicting in the video you have posted,going into a circular contour showing a globular planet indeed.
(http://)
this one is the closest thing yet!nice!
What would the point be in faking this. What do all the people who work in the space and satellite industry actually do?If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Yeah, I suppose I've seen enough to see it all for what it is. Ridiculous and pathetically faked. Carry on slinging them up and I'll let people know the silliness.
I'm certainly not allowing you people to play the old, "aweseome stuff" and all the rest of it, as it simply has an effect on those looking in who may just fall for it.
this question is just simply for another discussion board so please,all reading this,do not continue this here.What would the point be in faking this. What do all the people who work in the space and satellite industry actually do?If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Yeah, I suppose I've seen enough to see it all for what it is. Ridiculous and pathetically faked. Carry on slinging them up and I'll let people know the silliness.
I'm certainly not allowing you people to play the old, "aweseome stuff" and all the rest of it, as it simply has an effect on those looking in who may just fall for it.
Reword.this question is just simply for another discussion board so please,all reading this,do not continue this here.What would the point be in faking this. What do all the people who work in the space and satellite industry actually do?If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Yeah, I suppose I've seen enough to see it all for what it is. Ridiculous and pathetically faked. Carry on slinging them up and I'll let people know the silliness.
I'm certainly not allowing you people to play the old, "aweseome stuff" and all the rest of it, as it simply has an effect on those looking in who may just fall for it.
thank you beforehand!
sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
again...same thing?Reword.this question is just simply for another discussion board so please,all reading this,do not continue this here.What would the point be in faking this. What do all the people who work in the space and satellite industry actually do?If that is the way you see it then you are done. Right!Yeah, I suppose I've seen enough to see it all for what it is. Ridiculous and pathetically faked. Carry on slinging them up and I'll let people know the silliness.
I'm certainly not allowing you people to play the old, "aweseome stuff" and all the rest of it, as it simply has an effect on those looking in who may just fall for it.
thank you beforehand!
What possible reason is there for these pictures being faked?
i think you should look again what my so called game is and realize that if no "round earthers" can come up with a indisputable visual proof of a round Earth(that as you know no one can provide yet,not even NASA or other space agencies ) then "flat earthers" are to win(i use the quotation marks for the purpose of showing how silly names you all have found for silly discussion that,as it seems,go on and on from some years now,same on all the boards here,just wasting your time and Earth's supplies for the gadgets we use)sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
Plead all you like. Your game is quite clear to me.i think you should look again what my so called game is and realize that if no "round earthers" can come up with a indisputable visual proof of a round Earth(that as you know no one can provide yet,not even NASA or other space agencies ) then "flat earthers" are to win(i use the quotation marks for the purpose of showing how silly names you all have found for silly discussion that,as it seems,go on and on from some years now,same on all the boards here,just wasting your time and Earth's supplies for the gadgets we use)sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
stand down! and be on your way!
then really you must be more dumb than you think,so please take care of your mind and how it interprets things,it will be a benefit for all of us earthlings if one more human gets more considerate.read my first post,the very first one on this thread and if you are still not convinced write my again and i will try my best to explain to you what i believe about Earth,in short: that is not round nor flat,as people put it here on this board i'm on the fence.Plead all you like. Your game is quite clear to me.i think you should look again what my so called game is and realize that if no "round earthers" can come up with a indisputable visual proof of a round Earth(that as you know no one can provide yet,not even NASA or other space agencies ) then "flat earthers" are to win(i use the quotation marks for the purpose of showing how silly names you all have found for silly discussion that,as it seems,go on and on from some years now,same on all the boards here,just wasting your time and Earth's supplies for the gadgets we use)sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
stand down! and be on your way!
Ok, I'll let you get on with it all. I won;t disturb you at all from this point on, I'll just sit back until you play your final card, whenever that may be.then really you must be more dumb than you think,so please take care of your mind and how it interprets things,it will be a benefit for all of us earthlings if one more human gets more considerate.read my first post,the very first one on this thread and if you are still not convinced write my again and i will try my best to explain to you what i believe about Earth,in short: that is not round nor flat,as people put it here on this board i'm on the fence.Plead all you like. Your game is quite clear to me.i think you should look again what my so called game is and realize that if no "round earthers" can come up with a indisputable visual proof of a round Earth(that as you know no one can provide yet,not even NASA or other space agencies ) then "flat earthers" are to win(i use the quotation marks for the purpose of showing how silly names you all have found for silly discussion that,as it seems,go on and on from some years now,same on all the boards here,just wasting your time and Earth's supplies for the gadgets we use)sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
stand down! and be on your way!
i have no final card to play because i'm not playing anything,i am finding a way for all to see how futile are all this "debates" ESPECIALLY when we have NO ACTUAL PROOFS of it all.no one here is an expert,certified by an educational system or not,and even if there are some..the way you guys treat people here..they will be obliterate in an instant.I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE ALL BETTER HUMANS if put in a real situation,at least that you strive for that goal.Ok, I'll let you get on with it all. I won;t disturb you at all from this point on, I'll just sit back until you play your final card, whenever that may be.then really you must be more dumb than you think,so please take care of your mind and how it interprets things,it will be a benefit for all of us earthlings if one more human gets more considerate.read my first post,the very first one on this thread and if you are still not convinced write my again and i will try my best to explain to you what i believe about Earth,in short: that is not round nor flat,as people put it here on this board i'm on the fence.Plead all you like. Your game is quite clear to me.i think you should look again what my so called game is and realize that if no "round earthers" can come up with a indisputable visual proof of a round Earth(that as you know no one can provide yet,not even NASA or other space agencies ) then "flat earthers" are to win(i use the quotation marks for the purpose of showing how silly names you all have found for silly discussion that,as it seems,go on and on from some years now,same on all the boards here,just wasting your time and Earth's supplies for the gadgets we use)sceptimatic now you are not being at all constructive,not for this thread and in this way you chose to attack-not really being a righteous defender of what you and others believe so make yourself calm and enjoy if you are not able to participate.Not all people are as dumb as you think. I'm sure enough can see your game. It's a clever little alternative take on attempts to scupper the flat Earth but you need to be a bit smarter than that. If you think this is out of term, then complain.
stand down! and be on your way!
No need to reply to this post, I will not derail any further.
I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE ALL BETTER HUMANS...
:DI REALLY HOPE YOU ARE ALL BETTER HUMANS...
Thank you...?
the reason i joined in this site was in the hope of finding some answers,instead it brought disappointment seeing all this warring...especially on a subject so important that should bring cooperation in order to settle it..
the most immediate danger comes not from any conspiracy but from strife between us,our kindred...with all that is happening in the world now do we really have the time for all this,or do we need to work together?
goodbye stranded people!sleep well and see you at the end..
the reason i joined in this site was in the hope of finding some answers,instead it brought disappointment seeing all this warring...especially on a subject so important that should bring cooperation in order to settle it..What were the questions again? One question at t time. Maybe we can go at it again.
the most immediate danger comes not from any conspiracy but from strife between us,our kindred...with all that is happening in the world now do we really have the time for all this,or do we need to work together?
goodbye stranded people!sleep well and see you at the end..
the reason i joined in this site was in the hope of finding some answers,instead it brought disappointment seeing all this warring...especially on a subject so important that should bring cooperation in order to settle it..
the most immediate danger comes not from any conspiracy but from strife between us,our kindred...with all that is happening in the world now do we really have the time for all this,or do we need to work together?
goodbye stranded people!sleep well and see you at the end..
the reason i joined in this site was in the hope of finding some answers,instead it brought disappointment seeing all this warring...especially on a subject so important that should bring cooperation in order to settle it..It has been settled for a long time.
the most immediate danger comes not from any conspiracy but from strife between us,our kindred...with all that is happening in the world now do we really have the time for all this,or do we need to work together?Fine thoughts indeed....are you serious??
goodbye stranded people!sleep well and see you at the end..
oh!i see...it is fun to be mean.as i wrote : we do have time for this,yes...mhm "me like this,it is so much fun!!!weeeee!happy to be so spiteful!!!my life is so fun!"
yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.What would you consider a true photograph that would please you. You have to accept the fact that a real photograph would have to be taken from space.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar ;D
yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar ;D
yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar ;D
djuptsjomaour: I've read though all 14 pages of this discussion, and at times I think I understand what you are asking to see in terms of a picture of a "true globe" but at other times you've lost me. I'm thinking that there might be a bit of miscommunication going on here, what you envision as a true globe might be very different from what others envision.
I felt that the posted pictures back on page three of this discussion (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61250.40#.U0p8h3-9KSM (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61250.40#.U0p8h3-9KSM)) of earth taken from the moon or lunar orbit would be considered a "true globe"; but it seems that these images mean something else to you. You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you. This is why I am confused and I'd love to get some clarification on what you consider to be a picture of earth as a "true globe". Such a picture might exist, it's just that we aren't speaking exactly the right language right now. It might help if you could post a diagram of what you envision an earth as a true globe would look like, it doesn't have to be pretty, hand drawn in MS paint would be fine. Thanks! :)
You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you.
just two more posts ;) and the fisrt is especially for you ausGeoff,here it comes:
You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you.
Flat earthers, such as djuptsjomaour repeatedly use the term "blue marble" when describing a genuine photographic image of the earth in an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images, and the science they unequivocally support. By ascribing to it a simple, almost child-like name, they're simply playing with words, rather than debating the science behind them.
They intend that as soon as we read the word "marble", our mind automatically conjures up a vision of a common kid's plaything in a dusty schoolyard somewhere. In other words, that's "all" the images of the earth are equated with (or all that the flat earthers hope they're equated with).
Flat earthers invariably resort to these sorts of simplistic attacks when confronted with real-life, authenticated photographic images provided by scientifically accredited bodies such as NASA. That's all they can do, as has been shown numerous times on these forums, the flat earthers can produce not one single image of their own to either discredit the round earth images, or to prove their own flat earth model.
I've also asked numerous times here for even a single flat earth image to be posted, but thus far, this is yet to happen.
So again I challenge any flat earther to post a photographic image depicting all—or any part—of an alleged flat earth. But I'm also betting this won't be happening. Again.
If in your life and the so called discussions you are having here are joined by the same attention you have paid until now you must be mistrust or to be known that you intentionally are misleading, though I hope one day you will get it right for all our sake, yours included.
If in your life and the so called discussions you are having here are joined by the same attention you have paid until now you must be mistrust or to be known that you intentionally are misleading, though I hope one day you will get it right for all our sake, yours included.
I'm afraid I can't form a response to this... uh... claim, as I can't understand what it means.
Although bizarre syntax is often the meat of a flat earther's response. ;D
and the second and last post goes mostly for TheodorusOfSamos and then RandomREalist + ausGeoff(again for you ;D)
if i could have been more clear and less hijacked in the line i was aiming for it would have been for the best,but any way...to answer to you TheodorusOfSamos i had to re-register and here it goes
https://www.google.ro/search?q=the+blue+marble&rlz=1C1SKPL_enRO439&oq=the+blue+marble&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5321j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.ro/search?q=the+blue+marble&rlz=1C1SKPL_enRO439&oq=the+blue+marble&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5321j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8) maibe here you will get the answer what i mean by "the blue marble".though it is a nice name indeed for this vision of a globular Earth it is not at all a name i come up with, but a name given by NASA(still confused ausGeoff?).
when i write a "true globe" i am referring at,i hooope??,what all the people of today may envision when they think of a round Earth into space...something like this http://footage.shutterstock.com/clip-2909089-stock-footage-beautiful-earth-rotation-degrees-with-the-sun-looped-animation-hd.html?src=rel/1381240:4/gg (http://footage.shutterstock.com/clip-2909089-stock-footage-beautiful-earth-rotation-degrees-with-the-sun-looped-animation-hd.html?src=rel/1381240:4/gg) .a really nice not faked picture,and of today's technology,like a (here down on Earth) HD image,not a 3D representation or anything like a complicated "photographic proof of a "globe"" .so it is nothing complicated,nothing like "an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images"(not so massive though).i truly enjoy and appreciate the images and the time of others that had posted here but i was grown not to be a naive person,but to question to the truth,not less and not beyond.
because of this it is hard for me to conceive that until now 2014 we have so much less if not at all,videos and photos with an unquestionable proof of the shape,whatever it may be,of our beloved world : Earth
i hope you TheodorusOfSamos get it even if i am as usual possibly unclear :)...enjoy your stay on the forum,it can be fun and in a way envisionary,but trust me...you will get to no conclusion whatsoever your questions might be
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