earth from outer space

maybe some questions for you only:
are you same person with rottingroom?
do you lack a mouse scroll,or are you just lazy and wont re-read what has been going on?
can you post a link with a TRUE* picture or video of earth from outer space?
and lastly,can you apprehend i partake no sides?

* true
adjective
1.
in accordance with fact or reality.
"a true story"
synonyms:   accurate, correct, verifiable, faithful, literal, veracious;
antonyms:   untrue, false, fallacious
rightly or strictly so called; genuine.
"people are still willing to pay for true craftsmanship"
synonyms:   genuine, authentic, real, actual, proper, veritable;
antonyms:   bogus, phoney, de facto, insincere, feigned
real or actual.
"I have guessed your true intentions"
said when conceding a point.
"true, the house faced north, but you got used to that"
2.
accurate or exact.
"it was a true depiction"
synonyms:   accurate, true to life, faithful, telling it like it is, as it really happened, fact-based, realistic, close, lifelike, convincing;

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 12:26:55 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 25, 2014, 11:36:02 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 11:24:30 AM

as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please

I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.

then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.
  but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing

You are insane.

for you i may be insane or even worse  but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?

Quote from: rottingroom on March 25, 2014, 01:01:06 PM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 12:26:55 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 25, 2014, 11:36:02 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 11:24:30 AM

as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please

I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.

then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.
  but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing

You are insane.

for you i may be insane or even worse  but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?

What do you define as a perfect picture and who is doing to take it?

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 01:15:21 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 25, 2014, 01:01:06 PM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 12:26:55 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 25, 2014, 11:36:02 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 11:24:30 AM

as notfruit suggested...please calm your self's down,this is no argue thread and to be honest we could all do better by having a nice cup of chat instead of mugs of insults.i have no intention to continue in such a way so write down something constructive and in answer to my quest,not your own misjudging of what you tink is going on....
come on..please

I'm sorry but I will continue to insult people who believe the earth is flat. It is idiotic.

then that implies you are not truly sorry,is it now? and if not flat then how is it?i mean,fore sure is not flat but for sure is not globular either.to think,based on not even possible true measurements(just suppositional measurements) that the moon is that distance,that the sun is this big,that the universe is so...and so on and on(we all know the story)sounds as fantastic as anything else that is not proven to the FACT.proven to the fact means that someone had experienced on "it's own skin" all that is believing .for example one that had a psychedelic experience on ayahuasca and had met the cosmic serpent which is the DNA and get his knowledge and truthfulness,can afterward storytell to the others but only his experience fellow mates can confirm approval.to the rest it is just a supposition,or the group that had the same experience can evolve it into a theory and bring some facts about and try,just try to convince the others with various results.
  but me...i am simple and easy to convince in this quest with just the right picture or video,but sadly i am strongly starting to believe there is no such thing

You are insane.

for you i may be insane or even worse  but you just can find what i am looking for. remember this is not a debate whether this kind of evidence it exist or not,i am just looking for it and found this site and i thought i can ask for help.so will you help or move on?

What do you define as a perfect picture and who is doing to take it?

i have never write i am looking for the perfect picture but for a true picture,as for the second part of your question i just don't get it "who is doing to take it"?hmm just a second . if you refer to who is able to take it i presume some of the space agencies from around the world,correct?

if you look with an eye of a person who can appreciate proportions you will notice that the land mass is to big for all the continents to fit on this,a bit,to small globe,but first of all is to round compared to the scientific findings.about proportions ask a friend good at mathematics to help you.

Please bare in mind the Earth is round, take that into account when you look at a two dimensional photograph.
Have you ever held an atlas?

you know, one of these:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/00/s/MjIxWDIyOA==/z/nIwAAMXQUmFSlSiR/$_35.JPG

if not, buy one and do your pseudo calculations on land mass.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/161160983244

Compare an atlas to the images of the earth, and you will see the exact same proportions.

Now, You are trying to be objective right? but really you have a flat earth motive, because you have not brought anything to the table.
please provide proof for the flat earth if you believe the round earth is false.
Remember, merely dismissing round earth evidence is not in itself proof for a flat earth.

Also, you apparently did the 'calculations'? why not demonstrate them here?

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 11:08:21 AM

if you look with an eye of a person who can appreciate proportions you will notice that the land mass is to big for all the continents to fit on this,a bit,to small globe,but first of all is to round compared to the scientific findings.about proportions ask a friend good at mathematics to help you.

Please bare in mind the Earth is round, take that into account when you look at a two dimensional photograph.
Have you ever held an atlas?

you know, one of these:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/00/s/MjIxWDIyOA==/z/nIwAAMXQUmFSlSiR/$_35.JPG

if not, buy one and do your pseudo calculations on land mass.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INFLATABLE-BLOW-UP-GLOBE-40CM-ATLAS-WORLD-MAP-EARTH-/161160983244

Compare an atlas to the images of the earth, and you will see the exact same proportions.

Now, You are trying to be objective right? but really you have a flat earth motive, because you have not brought anything to the table.
please provide proof for the flat earth if you believe the round earth is false.
Remember, merely dismissing round earth evidence is not in itself proof for a flat earth.

Also, you apparently did the 'calculations'? why not demonstrate them here?

i have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?
apparently you did not follow the thread cause i have stated a few times : i do not take parts,for the reason i bring to the table : the quest it's self.i have no proof to bring on because there is none on either side.to be more precise i don't believe in a flat earth but also i have to question what this lack of images(picture or video) means.
from all our(us humans)missions to outer space(  -to be short i provide this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_exploration#The_Sun) we have only a hand full of pictures with earth from afar and most of them are ambiguous.what that does tell? maybe this is the answer i am looking for.but that just got to complicated and all because i found this site and your dilemmas and aggressive way of dealing with stuff.
it is fun to explore but not with people like you
refuse to go this way and your lives will be more fulfilling and full of answers instead of questions

(if you have a friend that works on 3D computer programs ask him to make a close similar model of this proportions and textures and you will see how light behaves considering all the details)

I work on 3d modeling programs

In the UK there was recently a program live from the ISS, those pictures showed a round earth.

Wide angle lenses will do that. 

Wide angle lenses will do that.

No. Wrong, as the panels were straight.

Yeah, just like the panels are straight in this picture.  Note: I added the yellow lines for a straight reference. 



This one also has straight panels.   

Very slight curve on the panels, but the earth showing its round shape. What's not to understand.

The panels are much closer.  Please read up on how wide angle lenses work differently on near and distant objects. 

The panels are much closer.  Please read up on how wide angle lenses work differently on near and distant objects.

I have a wide angle lens, it does not distort like that.

i have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?
apparently you did not follow the thread cause i have stated a few times : i do not take parts,for the reason i bring to the table : the quest it's self.i have no proof to bring on because there is none on either side.to be more precise i don't believe in a flat earth but also i have to question what this lack of images(picture or video) means.

You rejected some of the photo's I posted based on the apparent land mass calculations.
Please, demonstrate. Or be held guilty of being naive.
Please ask your friend in calculus to do the same calculations with an atlas.

Thanks.

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 25, 2014, 03:06:31 PM

i have never held it that i did the calculations,just as you(if you did)i had to get help from somebody else,now the calculus is lost from me so excuse my nerve.ok?
apparently you did not follow the thread cause i have stated a few times : i do not take parts,for the reason i bring to the table : the quest it's self.i have no proof to bring on because there is none on either side.to be more precise i don't believe in a flat earth but also i have to question what this lack of images(picture or video) means.

You rejected some of the photo's I posted based on the apparent land mass calculations.
Please, demonstrate. Or be held guilty of being naive.
Please ask your friend in calculus to do the same calculations with an atlas.

Thanks.

i have rejected just one of the photos you provided based on the apparent land mass calculation and i am sorry but at the moment i have no friend around to do the calculus so it is fine,i am being naive in this case
on a second look it does seems to fit but there are still many other irregularities with this kind of proofs(pictures or videos of a outer space earth)and as you know most of our believes come from the perception through eye sight(80%?)
all the best!

in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.

in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.

you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 26, 2014, 06:32:57 AM

in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.

you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.

i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.

Quote from: rottingroom on March 26, 2014, 06:34:33 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 26, 2014, 06:32:57 AM

in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.

you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.

i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.

Umm.. what? There are literally thousands of photographs of the earth/moon taken from space. Are you seriously expressing doubt of their validity based on a search with google images? What exactly were you expecting?

As my fellow roundies have said, your criteria for a 'legit' photograph of the earth from space is completely arbitrary. Every photo posted so far, you've replied with a nonsensical rejection of it. It seems your incredulity precedes your reasoning as, apparently, you don't think the earth is either flat or round, thus every photograph taken of earth from space is met with immediate skepticism regardless of what the photograph actually shows.

Either way, I think you'll fit in well with the other FE's here as it seems you have a knack for a) not properly explaining yourself, b) ignoring the vast body of empirical evidence that the earth is indeed a rotating oblate spheroid and c) that space travel & satellites is as demonstrably true as anything else you consider a fact.

I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.

How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.

No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.

Umm.. what? There are literally thousands of photographs of the earth/moon taken from space.
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 i am sorry  but i didn't read yet all what you have write..but are you joking?thousands of photographs??if you find me at least 100(one hundred) legitimate photos i will ask you for an address where i will send you 100 euros for each,just for the trouble of searching for them
now i will continue reading.and sorry again for stopping in the middle of what you where writing,maybe was important to continue but then again i was shocked a bit..

ok i have finished reading
again i am sorry,truly am,for my not so clear way of writing and making sense,but i use a dictionary to write all this stuff.and second,i am not implying that the earth is not turning/rotating and not a spheroid or that there are no space travels,satellites in orbit,i am just saying that where are all those nice pictures with earth from outer space that supposed to be among all the other(here possible thousands if not more,oh + the videos)closeups of high orbit and so on...?

I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.

How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.

No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.

i like you cause you have a healthy way of viewing things
it is just one thing i hope it is clear for everybody,i take no sides even if this can seem annoying to some,but this thread is not started to attract differences but to come to a conclusion(notfruit i know you know).i am just trying to answer to all that address something on the subject even if it's remote,but it seams that this is a fiery discussion for some and most of the people that try to interact here(The Flat Earth Society » Flat Earth Discussion Boards » Flat Earth Debate) are just liking to be rude towards me ore someone that is on one "team" or the other.
rude people should not be so...it is dangerous for progress(even for the darkside )...we all now that

Quote from: notfruit on March 26, 2014, 11:11:28 AM

I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.

How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.

No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.

i like you cause you have a healthy way of viewing things
it is just one thing i hope it is clear for everybody,i take no sides even if this can seem annoying to some,but this thread is not started to attract differences but to come to a conclusion(notfruit i know you know).i am just trying to answer to all that address something on the subject even if it's remote,but it seams that this is a fiery discussion for some and most of the people that try to interact here(The Flat Earth Society » Flat Earth Discussion Boards » Flat Earth Debate) are just liking to be rude towards me ore someone that is on one "team" or the other.
rude people should not be so...it is dangerous for progress(even for the darkside )...we all now that

Unfortunately for you, being on the fence makes you an instant enemy of certain global earth indoctrinates and they will attack you the very second you question ANYTHING against what they are trained for.

Unfortunately for you, being on the fence makes you an instant enemy of certain global earth indoctrinates and they will attack you the very second you question ANYTHING against what they are trained for.
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phew....i thought you where one of them attackers and i was tired of defending without wanting to fight at all.
  even if your insertion is not on topic thank you for the wave of calmness...cause this is what it feels like since joined in this site(2 days ago)

phew....i thought you where one of them attackers and i was tired of defending without wanting to fight at all.
  even if your insertion is not on topic thank you for the wave of calmness...cause this is what it feels like since joined in this site(2 days ago)

I won't attack you. I welcome anyone who has an open mind. My mind is totally closed off to a rotating globe but I'm open to many other suggestions. I've had my fill of being indoctrinated into a rotating globe.
Don't allow the usual suspects to derail your thoughts. They will spew bile at you if your questioning gets them hot under the collar.
Remember....there are quite a few shills on here and their goal is to ridicule anyone who attempts to question anything officially told to be the truth, no matter what it is. I'm sure if you stay around long enough you will see who they are.
I'm hated by both sides so it's all even with me. Just be yourself and ask the questions you want to and don't be intmidated by those that try to play wth your mind.

sceptimatic you know what i believe?
though i have no evidence,that our way,the human way is bound some how to an earth that is globed but by no means a reality that is in it's essence like so.
i believe that the answer abides somewhere in between the two ideas the flat and the round,but i know it is hidden from us(no conspiracy involved because when i write "us" i mean all of us humans,in power or not).the world as it is it's greater than we will ever grasp while "inside" here,alive.
maybe i want to believe in so a clear way that i can say this or that,for that i need my kind of evidence VISUAL,and if it's not with my two own eyes it needs to be reaaaaally convincing,more than scientific proof.science is like any other tool,science helps us understand but not at all to get us to the truth.
sorry......now i'm totally out of subject ......

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 26, 2014, 07:07:09 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 26, 2014, 06:34:33 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 26, 2014, 06:32:57 AM

in the same time i hope you agree with me
there is no compelling visual evidence of earth being globular as a whole except all those shady images.

you still haven't demonstrated what makes the images shady other than to just proclaim that they are.

i am not here to demonstrate anything, for one thing.and for the second you also know how easy is to paint something really realistic,50 years ago or even today.i have posted this to see if there is anyone able to do what i could not.besides..who am i to question the pictures all you provide,but i am hard to satisfy,i know and i am sorry if you struggle to much,you need not too.with all the technology i wander how come there is no such visual information flooding the world,i mean we have tones of true pictures with whatever is nice and beautiful from all over the earth why not whit the whole thing our beloved planet(tones upon tones from all those minutes spent by our robots/space thingies sent to outer space),that's all and thank you for the patience.

Umm.. what? There are literally thousands of photographs of the earth/moon taken from space. Are you seriously expressing doubt of their validity based on a search with google images? What exactly were you expecting?

As my fellow roundies have said, your criteria for a 'legit' photograph of the earth from space is completely arbitrary. Every photo posted so far, you've replied with a nonsensical rejection of it. It seems your incredulity precedes your reasoning as, apparently, you don't think the earth is either flat or round, thus every photograph taken of earth from space is met with immediate skepticism regardless of what the photograph actually shows.

Either way, I think you'll fit in well with the other FE's here as it seems you have a knack for a) not properly explaining yourself, b) ignoring the vast body of empirical evidence that the earth is indeed a rotating oblate spheroid and c) that space travel & satellites is as demonstrably true as anything else you consider a fact.

[/quote] i am sorry  but i didn't read yet all what you have write..but are you joking?thousands of photographs??if you find me at least 100(one hundred) legitimate photos i will ask you for an address where i will send you 100 euros for each,just for the trouble of searching for them
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now...i am not sure how to address this but this message it is for the user with name FETlolcakes

have you found those pictures?

Please, everyone, this thread requested a picture. Why all the text, huh???