earth from outer space

oh!i see...it is fun to be mean.as i wrote : we do have time for this,yes...mhm   "me like this,it is so much fun!!!weeeee!happy to be so spiteful!!!my life is so fun!"

You are incredibly whiny and you don't seem to care about acknowledging proof when it is presented anyway. Evidently, you are the type that needs to prove it to yourself, so get off your computer and go do some experiments and have some happy travels.

yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar   

yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar   

What would you consider a true photograph that would please you. You have to accept the fact that a real photograph would have to be taken from space.

yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar   

djuptsjomaour: I've read though all 14 pages of this discussion, and at times I think I understand what you are asking to see in terms of a picture of a "true globe" but at other times you've lost me. I'm thinking that there might be a bit of miscommunication going on here, what you envision as a true globe might be very different from what others envision.

I felt that the posted pictures back on page three of this discussion (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61250.40#.U0p8h3-9KSM) of earth taken from the moon or lunar orbit would be considered a "true globe"; but it seems that these images mean something else to you. You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you. This is why I am confused and I'd love to get some clarification on what you consider to be a picture of earth as a "true globe". Such a picture might exist, it's just that we aren't speaking exactly the right language right now. It might help if you could post a diagram of what you envision an earth as a true globe would look like, it doesn't have to be pretty, hand drawn in MS paint would be fine. Thanks!

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on April 13, 2014, 02:24:31 AM

yes,it is me who is whiny,especially that i spend years on this forum and see none of the proofs brought here are in accordance with what means a simple real photograph,i see only true curved horizons but no true globe.
based on what i stated and is underlined you could also call me a liar   

djuptsjomaour: I've read though all 14 pages of this discussion, and at times I think I understand what you are asking to see in terms of a picture of a "true globe" but at other times you've lost me. I'm thinking that there might be a bit of miscommunication going on here, what you envision as a true globe might be very different from what others envision.

I felt that the posted pictures back on page three of this discussion (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61250.40#.U0p8h3-9KSM) of earth taken from the moon or lunar orbit would be considered a "true globe"; but it seems that these images mean something else to you. You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you. This is why I am confused and I'd love to get some clarification on what you consider to be a picture of earth as a "true globe". Such a picture might exist, it's just that we aren't speaking exactly the right language right now. It might help if you could post a diagram of what you envision an earth as a true globe would look like, it doesn't have to be pretty, hand drawn in MS paint would be fine. Thanks!

Here's the real problem. A globe is a 3 dimensional object. Almost by definition, a photograph is 2-d, therefore, I don't think Dj will EVER see his photographic proof of a "globe"

You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you.

Flat earthers, such as djuptsjomaour repeatedly use the term "blue marble" when describing a genuine photographic image of the earth in an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images, and the science they unequivocally support.  By ascribing to it a simple, almost child-like name, they're simply playing with words, rather than debating the science behind them.

They intend that as soon as we read the word "marble", our mind automatically conjures up a vision of a common kid's plaything in a dusty schoolyard somewhere.  In other words, that's "all" the images of the earth are equated with (or all that the flat earthers hope they're equated with).

Flat earthers invariably resort to these sorts of simplistic attacks when confronted with real-life, authenticated photographic images provided by scientifically accredited bodies such as NASA.   That's all they can do, as has been shown numerous times on these forums, the flat earthers can produce not one single image of their own to either discredit the round earth images, or to prove their own flat earth model.

I've also asked numerous times here for even a single flat earth image to be posted, but thus far, this is yet to happen.

So again I challenge any flat earther to post a photographic image depicting all—or any part—of an alleged flat earth.  But I'm also betting this won't be happening.  Again.
 

Quote from: TheodorusOfSamos on April 13, 2014, 05:13:36 AM

You've used the term "blue marble" to describe these and other similar pictures, and while I think that's a nice way to describe the earth as seen in these pictures, it seems that something resembling a "blue marble" does not count as a "true globe" for you.

Flat earthers, such as djuptsjomaour repeatedly use the term "blue marble" when describing a genuine photographic image of the earth in an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images, and the science they unequivocally support.  By ascribing to it a simple, almost child-like name, they're simply playing with words, rather than debating the science behind them.

They intend that as soon as we read the word "marble", our mind automatically conjures up a vision of a common kid's plaything in a dusty schoolyard somewhere.  In other words, that's "all" the images of the earth are equated with (or all that the flat earthers hope they're equated with).

Flat earthers invariably resort to these sorts of simplistic attacks when confronted with real-life, authenticated photographic images provided by scientifically accredited bodies such as NASA.   That's all they can do, as has been shown numerous times on these forums, the flat earthers can produce not one single image of their own to either discredit the round earth images, or to prove their own flat earth model.

I've also asked numerous times here for even a single flat earth image to be posted, but thus far, this is yet to happen.

So again I challenge any flat earther to post a photographic image depicting all—or any part—of an alleged flat earth.  But I'm also betting this won't be happening.  Again.

just two more posts  and the fisrt is especially for you ausGeoff,here it comes:

if in your life and the so called discussions you are having here are joined by the same attention you have paid until now you must be mistrust or to be known that you intentionally are misleading,though i hope one day you will get it right for all our sake,yours included.
i have already wrote to you and some few others quite a few times that i am not a "flat earther", i am on the fence and not just for the sake of argument but for the reason as rottingroom put it i am the kind that i need to prove it my self,though by logging in here i really hoped for some help....i was so wrong apparently...eh

and the second and last post goes mostly for TheodorusOfSamos and  then RandomREalist + ausGeoff(again for you )

if i could have been more clear and less hijacked in the line i was aiming for it would have been for the best,but any way...to answer to you TheodorusOfSamos i had to re-register and here it goes

https://www.google.ro/search?q=the+blue+marble&rlz=1C1SKPL_enRO439&oq=the+blue+marble&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5321j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8   maibe here you will get the answer what i mean by "the blue marble".though it is a nice name indeed for this vision of a globular Earth it is not at all a name i come up with, but a name given by NASA(still confused ausGeoff?).
when i write a "true globe" i am referring at,i hooope??,what all the people of today may envision when they think of a round Earth into space...something like this http://footage.shutterstock.com/clip-2909089-stock-footage-beautiful-earth-rotation-degrees-with-the-sun-looped-animation-hd.html?src=rel/1381240:4/gg  .a really nice not faked picture,and of today's technology,like a (here down on Earth) HD image,not a 3D representation or anything like a complicated "photographic proof of a "globe"" .so it is nothing complicated,nothing like "an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images"(not so massive though).i truly enjoy and appreciate the images and the time of others that had posted here but i was grown not to be a naive person,but to question to the truth,not less and not beyond.
because of this it is hard for me to conceive that until now 2014 we have so much less if not at all,videos and photos with an unquestionable proof of the shape,whatever it may be,of our beloved world : Earth
i hope you TheodorusOfSamos get it even if i am as usual possibly unclear ...enjoy your stay on the forum,it can be fun and in a way envisionary,but trust me...you will get to no conclusion whatsoever your questions might be


former djuptsjomaour
departed onthefence

If in your life and the so called discussions you are having here are joined by the same attention you have paid until now you must be mistrust or to be known that you intentionally are misleading, though I hope one day you will get it right for all our sake, yours included.

I'm afraid I can't form a response to this... uh... claim, as I can't understand what it means.

Although bizarre syntax is often the meat of a flat earther's response.   
 

Quote from: onthefence on April 13, 2014, 01:48:41 PM

If in your life and the so called discussions you are having here are joined by the same attention you have paid until now you must be mistrust or to be known that you intentionally are misleading, though I hope one day you will get it right for all our sake, yours included.

I'm afraid I can't form a response to this... uh... claim, as I can't understand what it means.

Although bizarre syntax is often the meat of a flat earther's response.   
 

Thank you for your contribution to this thread.  Your profound words have enlightened us all. 

and the second and last post goes mostly for TheodorusOfSamos and  then RandomREalist + ausGeoff(again for you )

if i could have been more clear and less hijacked in the line i was aiming for it would have been for the best,but any way...to answer to you TheodorusOfSamos i had to re-register and here it goes

https://www.google.ro/search?q=the+blue+marble&rlz=1C1SKPL_enRO439&oq=the+blue+marble&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5321j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8   maibe here you will get the answer what i mean by "the blue marble".though it is a nice name indeed for this vision of a globular Earth it is not at all a name i come up with, but a name given by NASA(still confused ausGeoff?).
when i write a "true globe" i am referring at,i hooope??,what all the people of today may envision when they think of a round Earth into space...something like this http://footage.shutterstock.com/clip-2909089-stock-footage-beautiful-earth-rotation-degrees-with-the-sun-looped-animation-hd.html?src=rel/1381240:4/gg  .a really nice not faked picture,and of today's technology,like a (here down on Earth) HD image,not a 3D representation or anything like a complicated "photographic proof of a "globe"" .so it is nothing complicated,nothing like "an attempt to belittle the massive import of such images"(not so massive though).i truly enjoy and appreciate the images and the time of others that had posted here but i was grown not to be a naive person,but to question to the truth,not less and not beyond.
because of this it is hard for me to conceive that until now 2014 we have so much less if not at all,videos and photos with an unquestionable proof of the shape,whatever it may be,of our beloved world : Earth
i hope you TheodorusOfSamos get it even if i am as usual possibly unclear ...enjoy your stay on the forum,it can be fun and in a way envisionary,but trust me...you will get to no conclusion whatsoever your questions might be


former djuptsjomaour
departed onthefence

onthefence: Thank you for clarifying things.

There are some good reasons why de don’t have a lot of recent whole-earth pictures: not much attention is spent imaging earth from a distance these days since it would yield very low resolution images of earth compared to low earth orbiting (LEO) satellites; also, achieving a very high orbit is much more costly and complicated than LEO (manned space vehicles, including the ISS, never leave LEO these days, not since the lunar expeditions ended: it’s expensive and generally pointless to send people into higher orbits unless you plan to travel somewhere else like the moon or mars).

So the only possible sources of the whole-earth images that you are looking for come from the era of the Apollo program (and you want a recent picture, so these photos would be out of the running), high earth orbing satellites (most of which are communication satellites in GSO and lack imaging capabilities), and probes sent out into the solar system. These probes are probably the only sources of recent whole-earth pictures, but as I’ve read on most of these missions the probes are normally sent out into deep space with their sensors and imaging equipment off line in order to conserve power and protect the instruments until they reach their target, so there isn’t an opportunity to take a nice whole-earth picture with these probes. The exception to this would be lunar probes, since they don’t travel far from earth and can capture images of earth while in orbit of the moon. The Japanese completed a lunar probe mission a few years ago, the SELENE/Kaguya lunar satellite mission. Here’s a link to one of the JAXA SELENE/Kaguya websites: http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/en/index.htm

There are some very nice pictures of earth on there, though not all would meet your criteria. I’ll post some pictures here once I have time to go through the website; hopefully we can find the pictures you want.

UPDATE: Below are 1080p HD images of an "earth-rise" from lunar orbit as captured by Kaguya's HDTV camera:
http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/image/communication/img_071114_02.jpg



http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img/20080411_kaguya_01l.jpg


TIME LAPSE & CROPPED TO FIT 1080p
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/10/img/20081009_kaguya_02l.jpg

1080p HD video of an "earth-rise" from Japan's lunar satellite SELENE/Kaguya's HDTV camera.
This video is from JAXA's official YouTube channel.

Be sure to select the 1080p HD viewing option to get full resolution
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