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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2014, 04:42:32 AM »

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2014, 04:47:53 AM »
I welcome anyone who has an open mind. My mind is totally closed off to a rotating globe but I'm open to many other suggestions.

This is why this guy is amazing! Haha best quote of the year!

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2014, 04:50:07 AM »
I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.

How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.

No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.

I agree but the problem is any evidence the Flat Earthers will call fake or a con. Flat Earthers rarely provide any evidence besides some old book from the 1800s or ideas and beliefs. They don't have any valid reason to believe what they do other than it coincides with their conspiracy beliefs. I wish we could have actual side by side evidence and compare, but I have not see this yet.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2014, 05:52:01 AM »
I think that the problem here is that we assume that the other side knows everything about our viewpoints.

How about instead of assuming that everyone knows about orbital mechanics or light exposure or lenses, we take the time to share and explain what we hold to be true and compare this information (false or not) to reach a logical and widely accepted conclusion, like actual fucking civilized human beings.

No name calling, denying claims without evidence, or breaking any of the forum rules, k?
And sorry about the mini modding, it just seems every thread this long always turns into a flame war by the third page.

I agree but the problem is any evidence the Flat Earthers will call fake or a con. Flat Earthers rarely provide any evidence besides some old book from the 1800s or ideas and beliefs. They don't have any valid reason to believe what they do other than it coincides with their conspiracy beliefs. I wish we could have actual side by side evidence and compare, but I have not see this yet.
the ultimate proof for all the flat earthers will be an answer to this post,or the lack of it will may imply more discussions.but to the truth for all of us(the usual people,not astronauts and whatever)there is a lack of proof quite important : the visual proof.and please for anyone reading for the first time this tread there are no proofs/evidence of this kind for the general public,at least not on the www open to us.
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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2014, 05:40:33 PM »
in the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
thank you all!
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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2014, 05:43:06 PM »
in the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2014, 06:10:19 PM »
in the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?
if it is ok with everybody(icluding you ofcourse) i propose you
but please be responsible and recognize  the real deal
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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2014, 06:18:46 PM »
in the way things are on this site this could start another thread of to no end discussions but here you go :
please,beside some of those "photographs"* with earth from outer space(so very few) can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame,no collages or composite imagery.or at least search for a scientific reason why there is no such thing possible yet.
* i use quotation marks for all the reasons cited in the previous posts.
Sounds like a reasonable request. Who is going to say it is credible or real?
if it is ok with everybody(icluding you ofcourse) i propose you
but please be responsible and recognize  the real deal
Most RE'ers don't have problem with deciding creditably of pictures or videos. It is the FE'ers that seem to deny everything.

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2014, 06:19:36 PM »
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #99 on: March 30, 2014, 01:22:14 AM »
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.

 

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #100 on: March 30, 2014, 01:32:21 AM »
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #101 on: March 30, 2014, 01:53:49 AM »
as we can see this one clearly states it is a composite satellite image.
thank you for posting

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #102 on: March 30, 2014, 01:58:20 AM »
And this is the best they can come up with.
Well it surely beats any of the images that the flat earthers have posted here..... oh..... wait.

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I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real.
You can refuse to disbelieve anything you like mate.  But you should be aware that this is precisely what makes you so ignorant about matters scientific LOL

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In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
So where are your flat earth images that show that this image is not real?  You do have some images of the alleged flat earth don't you sceptimatic?

Oh dear.  Apparently you don't!   ;D
 


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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #103 on: March 30, 2014, 02:03:27 AM »
as we can see this one clearly states it is a composite satellite image.
thank you for posting

No, it doesn't say anywhere that it's a "composite" image.  Please read the description more fully before rushing to dispute its authenticity.  That way, you'll (possibly) avoid looking like a fool when your error is pointed out.

This image is NOT a composite.  It's a combination (different thing altogether) or an overlay of of a geostationary satellite image and a polar orbiting satellite image.  One is IR and one is visible spectrum.
 

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #104 on: March 30, 2014, 02:16:40 AM »
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.
oh come on  :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do .  from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #105 on: March 30, 2014, 02:29:56 AM »
as we can see this one clearly states it is a composite satellite image.
thank you for posting

No, it doesn't say anywhere that it's a "composite" image.  Please read the description more fully before rushing to dispute its authenticity.  That way, you'll (possibly) avoid looking like a fool when your error is pointed out.

This image is NOT a composite.  It's a combination (different thing altogether) or an overlay of of a geostationary satellite image and a polar orbiting satellite image.  One is IR and one is visible spectrum.
apparently FErs disbelieve the science and RErs just like to cast a slur upon their fellow earthlings and some not see what is in front of them,or most...what is not there at all.i will not even bother to repost the image provided for now,but come on...anywhere????are you positively sure??please respond ausGeoff...
the combination is between  the IR(which is geostationary)and the composite polar orbiting data.so it it not a whole
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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #106 on: March 30, 2014, 04:13:50 AM »
No, it doesn't say anywhere that it's a "composite" image.  Please read the description more fully before rushing to dispute its authenticity.  That way, you'll (possibly) avoid looking like a fool when your error is pointed out.

This image is NOT a composite.  It's a combination (different thing altogether) or an overlay of of a geostationary satellite image and a polar orbiting satellite image.  One is IR and one is visible spectrum.

It says composite right at the bottom. 

[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #107 on: March 30, 2014, 04:28:33 AM »
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2014, 04:34:54 AM »
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.
oh come on  :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do .  from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2014, 04:39:35 AM »
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.
oh come on  :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do .  from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/
You people live in a cartoon world. You are old enough to know better and yet here you are relying on cartoons of all descriptions.

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2014, 04:48:09 AM »
It will help a lot to indicate details of the picture or video.
oh come on  :D ... please starman,are you for real?,what more details wold anyone like besides : Antarctica . photograph/video* . not composite . not painting/drawing or any artistically make do .  from above/space . the whole continent . in colors if possible(not necessarily)
*a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material(for this case continent of Antarctica-not a representation) and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally/a recording of moving visual images(same subject-same condition) made digitally or on videotape.
There are no satellite far out in space to just take pictures of Antarctica. What they do is to have a low orbit polar orbit satellite to scan the whole earth in detail. The satellite landsat does that.http://lima.usgs.gov/
You people live in a cartoon world. You are old enough to know better and yet here you are relying on cartoons of all descriptions.
And your world is a cell. How sweet is that.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #111 on: March 30, 2014, 04:59:16 AM »
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.
how can you be so sure about it?never is a long time  :)
but you starman can you approve that this moving frame image falls under the specifications?it is a composite image non the less.
as a side question....for example...if i make an image of a face out of many others can you tell that person really exists?
 https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ53V4yInoZ3VhTVUykFMuD9FmLXe6qAp1rrklijzt5JQ9sG4R1g

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #112 on: March 30, 2014, 05:03:12 AM »
people....please stop with calling names and such,it is  just simple puerile.and you know it.....
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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #113 on: March 30, 2014, 05:06:21 AM »
[...] can anyone find real/true photographs with the whole continent of Antarctica in one frame, no collages or composite imagery.


 
IR (infra red) loop of Antarctic composite satellite images—a combination of geostationary and polar orbiting data.
Antarctic Meteorological Research Center (AMRC) 5 Mar 2009.
And this is the best they can come up with. And people wonder why this global Earth carry on gets questioned.
I refuse to believe these globulites accept pictures like this as being real. In fact I refuse to believe they actually accept any of the pictures as being real.
You will NEVER believe any pictures anyways.
how can you be so sure about it?never is a long time  :)
but you starman can you approve that this moving frame image falls under the specifications?it is a composite image non the less.
as a side question....for example...if i make an image of a face out of many others can you tell that person really exists?
 https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ53V4yInoZ3VhTVUykFMuD9FmLXe6qAp1rrklijzt5JQ9sG4R1g
With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #114 on: March 30, 2014, 06:01:59 AM »

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
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i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #115 on: March 30, 2014, 06:13:43 AM »

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
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So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #116 on: March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM »
not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      ??? why is that?

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #117 on: March 30, 2014, 06:23:12 AM »
not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      ??? why is that?
I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

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djuptsjomaour

Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #118 on: March 30, 2014, 06:30:36 AM »

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.
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starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/
why?do you know the guy? :D

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Re: earth from outer space
« Reply #119 on: March 30, 2014, 06:35:37 AM »

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.
i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?
So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.
starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/
why?do you know the guy? :D
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Nope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.