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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1170 on: February 03, 2022, 08:55:40 PM »
Hey I know a cool idea. Let people with dash cams who record people speeding, not indicating to change lanes, run red lights etc be able to send a copy to the police

If you see someone has a dodgy brake light, the police can then order your car to be inspected and repaired lest your registration be cancelled!

Because hey... 0 deaths is the goal!!!

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1171 on: February 03, 2022, 09:30:30 PM »
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 07:17:48 PM
You Americans sound like you have a real toxic relationship with authority.

Absolutely.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1172 on: February 03, 2022, 09:34:21 PM »
Are you guys cool with '0 fatalities' goal but just not cool on how to get there?

If you were tasked to get 0 fatalities on the road, what measures would you implement?
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« Reply #1173 on: February 03, 2022, 09:56:30 PM »
From the same fucktards that bring you "guns dont kill people, criminals kill peole" and "you shall no infringe on my ability to own or sell a gun to any criminal i want".

And

"Fauci created a deadly virus and should be tried for crimes against humanity" and " dont make me wear a mask or get a vax".
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1174 on: February 04, 2022, 03:02:15 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 03, 2022, 03:05:43 PM
Relevant video from Beau of the Fifth Column talking about West Germany, the Stasi, and how it relates to this particular topic of being constantly surveilled. He's talking about the recent laws where regular citizens are being used to watch over their neighbors and sue them for going to an abortion clinic, but it's not hard to see how this relates to being under constant watch and the dangers that go along with welcoming that concept into your society.



Saw it.
Not disagreeing but I don't see the problem as the camera.  Its a camera, it doesn't care.  The problem, it seems, is that you, as a person, are afraid the state will make something you do illegal and use what was put in already to punish you for it.  That tells me you that you don't trust your government to not try this shit.  And if so, you should fix that first before you let them have any power.  ANY power. 

I'm serious.  If you can't trust your legal system and elected body to be without corruption or to trust your fellow man to not allow this shit to take place... Either America needs to be fixed, rebuilt, or abandoned. 

*Note* its already there in some states...
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1175 on: February 04, 2022, 03:14:32 AM »


The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1176 on: February 04, 2022, 03:32:45 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 04, 2022, 03:14:32 AM


The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……

People put governments in power.

So... You have a very good point.  So far America has proven to have enough idiots who want to destroy others of different ideas that, yes, a dictator could assume power.

I've changed my stance.
No cameras.
No surveilence.
And for fuck's sake, ban gps from phones and make all data encrypted.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1177 on: February 04, 2022, 03:51:58 AM »
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 07:17:48 PM
You Americans sound like you have a real toxic relationship with authority. Pretty sad and ultimately destructive to your own society.
Our country was founded by revolutionaries.
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 07:17:48 PM
Perhaps my experience with authority is much better. As much as our government sucks, it's more through sheer ineptness or because they operate on cronyism where they like to do their rich business partners a solid. Never because they are power tripping arseholes looking to stitch up random pleb
Everyone in your country is a goddamn criminal, therefore you have no problem with your leaders.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1178 on: February 04, 2022, 04:04:24 AM »
Quote from: WISHTOLAUGH on February 04, 2022, 03:51:58 AM

Our country was founded by revolutionaries.



Your country was founded by a very mixed bag, but included a lot of religious fundies, who ostensibly fleeing persecution then proceed to hang Quakers, witches and all manner of heretics, there is also very good evidence (you for instance) that shows that the playing and even the watching of American football causes brain damage, so since its invention intelligence has been steadily dropping.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1179 on: February 04, 2022, 04:32:10 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 04, 2022, 04:04:24 AM
Quote from: WISHTOLAUGH on February 04, 2022, 03:51:58 AM

Our country was founded by revolutionaries.



Your country was founded by a very mixed bag, but included a lot of religious fundies, who ostensibly fleeing persecution then proceed to hang Quakers, witches and all manner of heretics, there is also very good evidence (you for instance) that shows that the playing and even the watching of American football causes brain damage, so since its invention intelligence has been steadily dropping.
The witch burners came from your country, you fucking cu_t, and they were revolutionary, and it was legal to do so back then, prior to the American Revolution.

I cannot stand American football, you fucking cu_t.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1180 on: February 04, 2022, 05:36:54 AM »
We won't keep finding other ways to welcome robot-enabled authoritarianism into our lives, right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/iowa-bill-require-cameras-public-school-classrooms-rcna14789

Oh... hmm. 24/7 monitoring and live streaming of the classrooms. That's ugly. Well, surely that'll be the end of it, right? This problem won't possibly continue to grow.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1181 on: February 04, 2022, 05:41:40 AM »
Quote from: Lorddave on February 04, 2022, 03:32:45 AM
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 04, 2022, 03:14:32 AM


The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……

People put governments in power.

So... You have a very good point.  So far America has proven to have enough idiots who want to destroy others of different ideas that, yes, a dictator could assume power.

I've changed my stance.
No cameras.
No surveilence.
And for fuck's sake, ban gps from phones and make all data encrypted.
I'm glad you're coming around. Don't confuse rules the government needs to abide by and rules corporations need to abide by though. Those are different. If people want to hand over all their private data to corporations, I don't necessarily have a problem with that as long as the government isn't given the authority to baselessly and needlessly also collect that data. I'd rather have people vote with their wallets on corporate issues like that. But that also means the government needs to do its job with laws that already exist to actually break up companies that are so big they become uncompetitive and too-big-to-fail.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1182 on: February 04, 2022, 05:45:43 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 05:41:40 AM
Quote from: Lorddave on February 04, 2022, 03:32:45 AM
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 04, 2022, 03:14:32 AM


The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……

People put governments in power.

So... You have a very good point.  So far America has proven to have enough idiots who want to destroy others of different ideas that, yes, a dictator could assume power.

I've changed my stance.
No cameras.
No surveilence.
And for fuck's sake, ban gps from phones and make all data encrypted.
I'm glad you're coming around. Don't confuse rules the government needs to abide by and rules corporations need to abide by though. Those are different. If people want to hand over all their private data to corporations, I don't necessarily have a problem with that as long as the government isn't given the authority to baselessly and needlessly also collect that data. I'd rather have people vote with their wallets on corporate issues like that. But that also means the government needs to do its job with laws that already exist to actually break up companies that are so big they become uncompetitive and too-big-to-fail.
I am curious as to how you reconcile the reality of AI bots maintaining active accounts on this forum with your supposed concern of government interference.

Monopolies only exist because of government regulation allowing them to exist.

You claim "vote with wallet," on the one hand, yet cannot even see your own other hand, because of your shortsightedness.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1183 on: February 04, 2022, 05:49:36 AM »
I'm not surprised you don't comprehend the line between what a government is allowed to do, what a corporation is allowed to do, and what individuals are allowed to do. And I don't particularly care to try and explain it to someone that argues in as bad faith as you.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1184 on: February 04, 2022, 06:00:04 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 05:36:54 AM
We won't keep finding other ways to welcome robot-enabled authoritarianism into our lives, right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/iowa-bill-require-cameras-public-school-classrooms-rcna14789

Oh... hmm. 24/7 monitoring and live streaming of the classrooms. That's ugly. Well, surely that'll be the end of it, right? This problem won't possibly continue to grow.

Seems like an odd thing for the repugs to push for. I thought that would have been more a loopy far left thing to want. Better vote Democrat I guess  >:D

Remember, all these stupid people in your government - were elected by you plebs. It might be time you guys stop being rusted on to one particular 'team' and critically analyze what it is you are going to get with your vote rather than just guarantee your team your forever vote no matter what they do

Have you seen the massive pushback in the gaming world when companies are trying to push that NFT shit? Massive blow back by the gamers and embarrassing the companies reputation that is forcing them to pull back and give up their bullshit NFT dreams.

If the repugs or the dems want to put up a candidate and that candidate says some stupid shit, you guys need to call it out and hound them. Not 'well that persons on my team so I have to go along with it'. This partisan BS is ripping your country apart and is giving free passes to not only morons who do a piss poor job but also arseholes (like whoever is pushing for cameras in schools). Objectively that's some fucked up idea - no matter the party behind it. But even so, red voters wont lambast the party for it. cant go against the 'team'. Dont want to appear to be a RINO or Never Trumper

You can be sure that if a democrat proposed the idea, red voters would be out in force. Tucker Carlson would devote an entire episode to whip up the outrage. But party members dont care when the opposing voters gets angry. They haven't lost any votes. They would however care if their own side was getting angry. If you dont want arseholes in your government, start getting angry at the stupid shit no matter the team. Dont let them think their vote is assured because of the colour they represent.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1185 on: February 04, 2022, 06:02:24 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 05:49:36 AM
I'm not surprised you don't comprehend the line between what a government is allowed to do, what a corporation is allowed to do, and what individuals are allowed to do. And I don't particularly care to try and explain it to someone that argues in as bad faith as you.
In other words, you're just fucking busted and know you have been called out on your typical fucking bullshit.

That's cool.

I hear scg and breadcrumb kind of get turned on when you play the little mop-haired boy with a tear swelling up in his eye, as the whine slowly gets louder," imma taKIng MY toys AND GOING HOME!!!!" breadcrumb is getting anxious and excited, in the hopes you'll stop by on the way out, to rub your soft hands all over his hairy legs.

Carry on.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1186 on: February 04, 2022, 06:25:24 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 05:41:40 AM
Quote from: Lorddave on February 04, 2022, 03:32:45 AM
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 04, 2022, 03:14:32 AM


The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……

People put governments in power.

So... You have a very good point.  So far America has proven to have enough idiots who want to destroy others of different ideas that, yes, a dictator could assume power.

I've changed my stance.
No cameras.
No surveilence.
And for fuck's sake, ban gps from phones and make all data encrypted.
I'm glad you're coming around. Don't confuse rules the government needs to abide by and rules corporations need to abide by though. Those are different. If people want to hand over all their private data to corporations, I don't necessarily have a problem with that as long as the government isn't given the authority to baselessly and needlessly also collect that data. I'd rather have people vote with their wallets on corporate issues like that. But that also means the government needs to do its job with laws that already exist to actually break up companies that are so big they become uncompetitive and too-big-to-fail.

Except the line between what a company can get and what a government can get is right into the company.
Like if the NSA wants your records from Verizon, they'll get it.  Covertly.  So the PR disaster never hits.  Just oay the CEO in enough favors and they get it.
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« Reply #1187 on: February 04, 2022, 06:35:16 AM »
Quote from: Lorddave on February 04, 2022, 06:25:24 AM
Except the line between what a company can get and what a government can get is right into the company.
Like if the NSA wants your records from Verizon, they'll get it.  Covertly.  So the PR disaster never hits.  Just oay the CEO in enough favors and they get it.


Haha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93Apple_encryption_dispute
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The most well-known instance of the latter category was a February 2016 court case in the United States District Court for the Central District of California. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) wanted Apple to create and electronically sign new software that would enable the FBI to unlock a work-issued iPhone 5C it recovered from one of the shooters who, in a December 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino, California, killed 14 people and injured 22. The two attackers later died in a shootout with police, having first destroyed their personal phones. The work phone was recovered intact but was locked with a four-digit password and was set to eliminate all its data after ten failed password attempts (a common anti-theft measure on smartphones). Apple declined to create the software, and a hearing was scheduled for March 22. However, a day before the hearing was supposed to happen, the government obtained a delay, saying it had found a third party able to assist in unlocking the iPhone. On March 28, the government announced that the FBI had unlocked the iPhone and withdrew its request. In March 2018, the Los Angeles Times reported that "the FBI eventually found that Farook's phone had information only about work and revealed nothing about the plot."[4]

In another case in Brooklyn, a magistrate judge ruled that the All Writs Act could not be used to compel Apple to unlock an iPhone. The government appealed the ruling, but then dropped the case on April 22, 2016, after it was given the correct passcode.[5]

Apple looks good because it supposedly cares about users privacy and the government 'somehow' got what it wanted. You have to wonder what went down behind the scenes.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1188 on: February 04, 2022, 06:39:21 AM »
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Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 05:41:40 AM
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The problem is, do you trust the government that might be in power in 10-20 yrs, when you have agreed to all these powers for a reasonable bunch and along comes……

People put governments in power.

So... You have a very good point.  So far America has proven to have enough idiots who want to destroy others of different ideas that, yes, a dictator could assume power.

I've changed my stance.
No cameras.
No surveilence.
And for fuck's sake, ban gps from phones and make all data encrypted.
I'm glad you're coming around. Don't confuse rules the government needs to abide by and rules corporations need to abide by though. Those are different. If people want to hand over all their private data to corporations, I don't necessarily have a problem with that as long as the government isn't given the authority to baselessly and needlessly also collect that data. I'd rather have people vote with their wallets on corporate issues like that. But that also means the government needs to do its job with laws that already exist to actually break up companies that are so big they become uncompetitive and too-big-to-fail.

Except the line between what a company can get and what a government can get is right into the company.
Like if the NSA wants your records from Verizon, they'll get it.  Covertly.  So the PR disaster never hits.  Just oay the CEO in enough favors and they get it.
It's a good thing we can pass legislation to stop that then. We should probably, as a society, do that. And then punish officials severely when they are caught violating that privacy. This is what we're supposed to be able to rely on our elected representatives to handle on our behalf, instead of watching them just consistently degrade our privacy without consequence. Democrats and Republicans are both selling out their constituents and we just keep putting them back in as if they will start acting differently.

We don't have to be OK with continuing to have our privacy eroded away. And we certainly shouldn't be championing additional erosion of our rights, making it even easier for legislators to take them away.
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« Reply #1189 on: February 04, 2022, 06:48:59 AM »
Interesting part of that Iowa bill where they want cameras in classrooms:
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Under the bill, teachers, administrators and other school staff members who fail to keep the cameras active and in working order or who “obstruct” the camera’s views could be fined up to 5 percent of their weekly salary per infraction. The cameras would be bought with funds already allocated to school districts.
Let's also do that with police officers and their body cameras, eh?
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« Reply #1190 on: February 04, 2022, 07:35:29 AM »
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« Reply #1191 on: February 04, 2022, 07:37:35 AM »
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« Reply #1192 on: February 04, 2022, 07:40:41 AM »
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1193 on: February 04, 2022, 08:51:25 AM »
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 09:34:21 PM
Are you guys cool with '0 fatalities' goal but just not cool on how to get there?

If you were tasked to get 0 fatalities on the road, what measures would you implement?

The only way to get zero fatalities on the road, is to remove all the vehicles, and the roads.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1194 on: February 04, 2022, 09:02:18 AM »
and the poeople
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1195 on: February 04, 2022, 09:02:53 AM »
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 04, 2022, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: Themightykabool on February 04, 2022, 07:35:29 AM
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Crouton

I must admit that I rarely read his posts. Does he always talk about me that much?
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1196 on: February 04, 2022, 09:08:28 AM »
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Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 04, 2022, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: Themightykabool on February 04, 2022, 07:35:29 AM
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Crouton

I must admit that I rarely read his posts. Does he always talk about me that much?

the nickname threw me off because i don't think you even responded to him.

maybe he trying to get your attention.
like the boy at recess who teases teh girl he likes.
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« Reply #1197 on: February 04, 2022, 09:09:28 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 04, 2022, 08:51:25 AM
Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 09:34:21 PM
Are you guys cool with '0 fatalities' goal but just not cool on how to get there?

If you were tasked to get 0 fatalities on the road, what measures would you implement?

The only way to get zero fatalities on the road, is to remove all the vehicles, and the roads.

Pretty much. But as we cant do that, what could you do to reduce the fatalities? 38680 people died in car accidents in 2020. That's 106ish every day. That's over 4 people dying per hour.

Every person that dies, costs the government a lot of money. Missed tax revenue mostly, less spending in the economy as the dead person is no longer shopping and broken families are no good for society either. So each death stings. The government has a vested interest in ensuring you survive. You are no good to them dead. Even worse for the government is if you come out of the accident crippled. Then you become a tax burden!
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #1198 on: February 04, 2022, 09:38:27 AM »
Suicide kills even more people. Maybe we should have cameras in every room of our homes and especially in our therapists' offices live-feeding to local authorities so the government can help reduce suicides too. That'll help 'em get all those drug dealers and manufacturers too! Imagine the Utopian future when we're all behaving like good little lemmings because we have cameras reporting on our activities every waking moment, and the "undesirables" can just be carted away for reeducation!
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« Reply #1199 on: February 04, 2022, 09:44:15 AM »
Quote from: boydster on February 04, 2022, 09:38:27 AM
Suicide kills even more people. Maybe we should have cameras in every room of our homes and especially in our therapists' offices live-feeding to local authorities so the government can help reduce suicides too. That'll help 'em get all those drug dealers and manufacturers too! Imagine the Utopian future when we're all behaving like good little lemmings because we have cameras reporting on our activities every waking moment, and the "undesirables" can just be carted away for reeducation!

Nah. Just take away the guns.
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