Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?

And I have a strict no google policy so I cocked that gun and went for it.

Pity.  As a field service technician, I find that "when in doubt, Google it" policy can be quite helpful.  Even a query as simple as "this vs that" can help clear up some confusion.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2021, 03:45:21 PM

And I have a strict no google policy so I cocked that gun and went for it.

Pity.  As a field service technician, I find that "when in doubt, Google it" policy can be quite helpful.  Even a query as simple as "this vs that" can help clear up some confusion.

I don't understand how jobs worked before Google... where did you go to look stuff up?  What if your boss wanted to know how heavy an elephant foot was? Must have been mass firings constantly for not having any answers. 

Encyclopedia Britannica or other books

Encyclopedia Britannica or other books

I called them and they didn't know.

I don't understand how jobs worked before Google... where did you go to look stuff up? 

Good question.  You should google that.

What if your boss wanted to know how heavy an elephant foot was?

That would most likely involve a field trip to a zoo.

Must have been mass firings constantly for not having any answers.

Only for the ones who couldn't figure out how to find an answer.

Quote from: markjo on January 27, 2021, 06:36:29 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2021, 03:45:21 PM

And I have a strict no google policy so I cocked that gun and went for it.

Pity.  As a field service technician, I find that "when in doubt, Google it" policy can be quite helpful.  Even a query as simple as "this vs that" can help clear up some confusion.

I don't understand how jobs worked before Google... where did you go to look stuff up?  What if your boss wanted to know how heavy an elephant foot was? Must have been mass firings constantly for not having any answers.

Not sure where I'd be without stackoverflow!

https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/04/25/119002/how-bacteria-could-generate-radio-waves/

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1104.3113.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20200406191903/https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/coronavirus-fears-5g-wifi-networks-21728189

All vaccines contain HeLa cells (cell lines): even the mRNA vaccines (indirectly, through nanolipids).

The HeLa cells are connected to the telluric currents (radio waves), and are subject to brownian motion (energy imparted by the telluric waves).

The people who are vaccinated (mRNA or other types of vaccines against covid-19) have activated/enhanced the radio emission/reception capability of the mycobacterium to communicate with each other (all over the world). Covid-19 = M. avium (+passenger viruses such as sars-cov-x).

The old strains were no longer active as of late November/early December 2020, that is why the vaccination program was no longer warranted.

The new strains (B.1.1.7, B.1.521, B.1.525, B.1.526, B.1.429, B.1.528) have been developed in/by the people who were vaccinated, and they will be the ones who will spread the new strains everywhere else.

Example: a certain country in Europe has now discovered that the B.1.1.7 strain has been located on more than half its territory; since there are few labs which can sequence these new strains, the real figures are much larger. They managed to sequence 136 new cases, and found out that only five of the people tested for the new strain from UK had visited England in the past few weeks.

The government is unable to explain the source of the new strain found in the rest of the people who were tested.

M. avium is using these radio waves to call for help from other more powerful mycobacterium to come to its aid.

Or, it is not spread by mad shit, but, as few countries outside of the UK have genetic sequencing capabilities it had spread wider and faster below the radar and was found in the UK because of the above and is now endemic in many (70) countries, the link to a British spreader being erroneous.

Or, it is not spread by mad shit, but, as few countries outside of the UK have genetic sequencing capabilities it had spread wider and faster below the radar and was found in the UK because of the above and is now endemic in many (70) countries, the link to a British spreader being erroneous.

Brilliant.

Did you know that the first tests for the new mRNA vaccines (and the other ones) were started in September 2020, in the UK, SA and Brazil? Exactly the same countries where now these new powerful strains can be found:

https://www.samrc.ac.za/news/covid-19-vaccine-challenges-running-trial-middle-pandemic

The B.1.1.7 strain is now superseded by the new B.1.525 strain in the UK.

Make no mistake about it: it is most of the vaccinated people who have developed the new strains and are now spreading them all over the place.

Covid-19 ended in November 2020. It is this agressive vaccination campaign which has caused the new strains to appear.

Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 24, 2021, 12:53:05 AM

Or, it is not spread by mad shit, but, as few countries outside of the UK have genetic sequencing capabilities it had spread wider and faster below the radar and was found in the UK because of the above and is now endemic in many (70) countries, the link to a British spreader being erroneous.

Brilliant.

Did you know that the first tests for the new mRNA vaccines (and the other ones) were started in September 2020, in the UK, SA and Brazil? Exactly the same countries where now these new powerful strains can be found:

https://www.samrc.ac.za/news/covid-19-vaccine-challenges-running-trial-middle-pandemic

The B.1.1.7 strain is now superseded by the new B.1.525 strain in the UK.

Make no mistake about it: it is most of the vaccinated people who have developed the new strains and are now spreading them all over the place.

Covid-19 ended in November 2020. It is this agressive vaccination campaign which has caused the new strains to appear.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7003e2.htm

The B.1.1.7 variant is estimated to have emerged in September 2020 and has quickly become the dominant circulating SARS-CoV-2 variant in England (1).

Public Health England. Investigation of novel SARS-CoV-2 variant: variant of concern 202012/01, technical briefing 3. London, United Kingdom: Public Health England; 2020. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/950823/Variant_of_Concern_VOC_202012_01_Technical_Briefing_3_-_England.pdf

The specimen date for the first COVID-19 case with the VOC 202012/01 variant in England was 20 September 2020.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54082192

So the fact that this variant spread around the UK before the vaccinations were widely available (my daughter and her partner had it prior to vaccination) kind of rubbishes your conspiracy.

The people who took part in the vaccine trials in the summer/early fall of 2020 are the ones who are spreading the new strains: B.1.1.7 in the UK, B.1.351 in SA, and B.1.1.28 in Brazil. No conspiracy, just straight facts: first, trial vaccines, then the emergence of new powerful strains.

You are trying to put your best face on what can be described as a total disaster. Remember the movie plot from I Am Legend? This is exactly what is happening now. World leaders, presidents and prime ministers from around the world were calling for a vaccine in February 2020. These new vaccines are causing the new strains to multiply around the world: they contain HeLa cells which allow the mycobacterium to communicate efficiently through radio waves.

There is no way that the major vaccine companies will be able to keep pace with the new strains (medically, not to mention financially and logistically).

A new phenomenon will appear: reassortment viruses (recombination of viruses), such as, for example, H5N8 combined with M. avium, for which there will be no vaccines.

So viruses don't mutate naturally and you get your information from hollywood. Mmm.

This is not a joking matter: we find ourselves on the precipice of the worst disaster in history.

Naturally, mycobacterium and viruses communicate through radio waves. But not at this level of perfection, offered by the HeLa cells. As soon as the trial vaccines were administered, the new strains started to appear.

As early as November-December 2020, Covid-19 was over. The old strains no longer were causing problems. But the vaccination program has caused the appearance of the new strains.

Right now, the B.1.1.7 has spread all over Europe. Locally, new strains have been detected: B.1.528 in the Czech republic/Slovakia, other strains in Finland and so forth. But now, given the aggresive vaccination program, a new strain has appeared in the UK: B.1.525.

The vaccinated people must be monitored at once for the appearance of the new strains.

There is only one kind of vaccine which would have worked: BCG. It contains bacteriophages which would have not allowed the mycobacterium to communicate through HeLa cells.

This is not a joking matter: we find ourselves on the precipice of the worst disaster in history.

Naturally, mycobacterium and viruses communicate through radio waves. But not at this level of perfection, offered by the HeLa cells. As soon as the trial vaccines were administered, the new strains started to appear.

As early as November-December 2020, Covid-19 was over. The old strains no longer were causing problems. But the vaccination program has caused the appearance of the new strains.

Right now, the B.1.1.7 has spread all over Europe. Locally, new strains have been detected: B.1.528 in the Czech republic/Slovakia, other strains in Finland and so forth. But now, given the aggresive vaccination program, a new strain has appeared in the UK: B.1.525.

The vaccinated people must be monitored at once for the appearance of the new strains.

There is only one kind of vaccine which would have worked: BCG. It contains bacteriophages which would have not allowed the mycobacterium to communicate through HeLa cells.

The Moderna vaccine doesn't use HeLa cells.

All mRNA vaccines use HeLa cell lines. They have to.

https://i2.wp.com/thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/o4b0PJ0.jpeg?w=618&ssl=1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/ (HeLa cell lines)

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm (HeLa cell lines)

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.341537v1.full.pdf

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201019/Design-of-an-mRNA-SARS-CoV-2-vaccine-encapsulated-in-lipid-nanoparticles.aspx

HeLa cell lines brownian motion:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249997455_Intracellular_viscoelasticity_of_HeLa_cells_during_cell_division_studied_by_video_particle-tracking_microrheology

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006349514008947

Brownian entanglement

https://cds.cern.ch/record/811651/files/0412132.pdf

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41534-020-0243-y

Now, the mycobacterium have a high speed wireless internet connection to communicate with each other.

All mRNA vaccines use HeLa cell lines. They have to.

Immortalized cell lines are used in developing some vaccines, not necessarily in producing the finalized vaccine.

The Moderna vaccine doesn't use HeLa (Immortalized cell lines) cells.

"Those vaccines can be divided into a few different types. Some, such as RNA vaccines made by companies like Moderna (SN: 5/18/20), do not require a live cell, and thus, no cell line. But other types do require live cells during their production. That includes candidates that use the old-school method for developing vaccines: attenuation."
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid19-vaccine-ethical-issues

This is from Moderna's patent:

https://i2.wp.com/thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/o4b0PJ0.jpeg?w=618&ssl=1

Now, that substance needs HeLa cell lines:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/ (HeLa cell lines)

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm (HeLa cell lines)

Whoever wrote the sciencenews article did not do his/her homework.

HeLa cells have contaminated ALL of the labs all over the world. They are quantum entangled.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190329131329/https://vaccinecancerconnection.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/hela-cells-the-continuing-contamination-of-cancer-and-vaccine-research/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19722756/

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Henrietta-Lacks%2C-HeLa-cells%2C-and-cell-culture-Lucey-NELSON-REES/c0c9a6268a7a6f46f84ff6e4063205fe7a9e707f

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26116706/

Further, 93.22% of the contaminants in cell lines established in laboratories of China were HeLa cells or a possible hybrid of HeLa with an unknown cell line. Results from these misidentified lines have been published in thousands of potentially erroneous articles and may have distorted the findings visible to the scientific community.

This is from Moderna's patent:

https://i2.wp.com/thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/o4b0PJ0.jpeg?w=618&ssl=1

Now, that substance needs HeLa cell lines:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/ (HeLa cell lines)

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm (HeLa cell lines)

Whoever wrote the sciencenews article did not do his/her homework.

Like I said, immortalized cells are sometimes used in the development of vaccines. Moderna does not use immortalized cells in the production of their Covid vaccine.

HeLa cells have contaminated ALL of the labs all over the world. They are quantum entangled.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190329131329/https://vaccinecancerconnection.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/hela-cells-the-continuing-contamination-of-cancer-and-vaccine-research/

I'd hardly take Dr. Cantwell's medical advice on a paper cut let alone vaccine development and production:

Alan Cantwell (1934–) is an American conspiracy theorist, AIDS denialist, retired physician and cancer woo promoter who supports the hypothesis that bacteria cause cancer. He also believes that HIV/AIDS is a man-made disease, a genetically modified organism developed by U.S. Government scientists.[2][3][4]

Cantwell is a fan of Wilhelm Reich and his idea of orgone energy[1] He was influenced by the research of Virginia LivingstonWikipedia who advocated the unsupported theory that a species of bacteria named Progenitor cryptocides was the cause of cancer in humans.[5][6]

Cantwell invokes a conspiracy theory that cancer microbe research is being suppressed by the medical community

Find a reputable source.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19722756/

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Henrietta-Lacks%2C-HeLa-cells%2C-and-cell-culture-Lucey-NELSON-REES/c0c9a6268a7a6f46f84ff6e4063205fe7a9e707f

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26116706/

Further, 93.22% of the contaminants in cell lines established in laboratories of China were HeLa cells or a possible hybrid of HeLa with an unknown cell line. Results from these misidentified lines have been published in thousands of potentially erroneous articles and may have distorted the findings visible to the scientific community.

Yep, seems like some immortalized cell lines have been contaminated over the years. So what? That doesn't automagically mean that all research using immortalized cell lines are contaminated. You seem to take things out of context and smear them across anything and everything that strikes your fancy. There's nothing in any of these sources that points at any of the covid vaccines.

And, there's nothing in any of your sources that support your erroneous claim that "HeLa cells have contaminated ALL of the labs all over the world". No where, nothing. Stop making things up.

And again, Moderna doesn't use immortalized cells in the production of their vaccine.

It seems that you are not able to follow a scientific paper.

Let me spell out for you what is going on.

Here is Moderna's patent:

https://i2.wp.com/thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/o4b0PJ0.jpeg?w=618&ssl=1

Are you able to recognize the name of that substance?

That substance necessitates the use of HeLa cell lines. If you did not bother to read these papers, I will quote the significant passages.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

Combinatorial design

In order to obtain effective vaccine platforms, different beneficial mRNA elements have been joined.

Capping with ARCA has been combined with a long transcribed poly(A) tail of 100 residues. Such luciferase-encoding mRNA was tested in immortalized cell lines (JawsII, HepG2, HeLa) as well as immature and mature human dendritic cells.

Same substance, same HeLa cells.

As soon as that substance is immersed in cell lines, HeLa cells become part of it.

Section: mRNA purification

Increased protein expression as a result of stringent purification of mRNA was also observed when transcripts coding for luciferase or erythropoietin were purified by HPLC.

So, HeLa cell lines ARE used in the production of these mRNA vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm

3. Results

3.1. Construction and Screening of IVT-mRNA Systems

The results showed that the mode of 5’ and 3’ UTRs originating from human β-globulin was better than the mode of UTRs from human α-globulin, and the n3 mode was the best. mEGFP-n3, mH3HA-n3, and mLuciferease-n3 were prepared to compare the effect of cationic lipid nanoparticle (LNP) with that of mannose-conjugated LNP (LNP-Man) on the efficiency of gene delivery.

Your statement has been debunked: mRNA vaccines do contain that substance which has been grown in HeLa cell lines.


If you do not like Alan Cantwell, then perhaps you will listen to Walter Nelson-Rees, the foremost expert on HeLa cell lines.

Jonas Salk had Dr. Nelson-Rees test his own cell line, which was proven to be actually a HeLa cell line.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19722756/

Henrietta Lacks, HeLa cells, and cell culture contamination

HeLa cells were used by researchers around the world. However, 20 years after Henrietta Lacks' death, mounting evidence suggested that HeLa cells contaminated and overgrew other cell lines.

Yep, seems like some immortalized cell lines have been contaminated over the years.

Your statement is laughable. ALL of the cell lines, in ALL of the labs around the world were contaminated with HeLa cell lines, ever since the 1950s.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26116706/

Further, 93.22% of the contaminants in cell lines established in laboratories of China were HeLa cells or a possible hybrid of HeLa with an unknown cell line. Results from these misidentified lines have been published in thousands of potentially erroneous articles and may have distorted the findings visible to the scientific community.


Moderna uses a substance which is grown in HeLa cell lines. Those HeLa cells then will be part of the vaccine.

HeLa cells exhibit brownian motion which is quantum entangled.

Bacteria communicate through radio waves. These waves produce the brownian motion of the HeLa cell lines.

Each and every vaccinated person for covid-19 will become part of a HeLa cell line network: mycobacterium now can communicate through a wireless device with each other.

This is how the new strains have appeared exactly after the trial vaccines program started back in March 2020.

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/covid-19-questions-sur-les-vaccins

Mais patatras, voilà que l’Académie de médecine s’y met, et maladroitement, car son explication pour ne pas différer la seconde injection, remet dans le circuit le risque de mutations dues aux vaccins. Outre le fait que « le retard peut faire en sorte que des anticorps facilitants créés pourrait exacerber la Covid-19 », le communiqué indique aussi que « le faible niveau d’immunité (après la primo-vaccination) constituera un terrain favorable pour sélectionner l’émergence d’un ou de plusieurs variants échappant à l’immunité induite par la vaccination ». Cela a été répété par Yves Buisson rapporteur, sur France Info.

Seconde question : y a-t-il un lien entre vaccins et derniers mutants ? Le communiqué de l’Académie de médecine dit que c’est possible, et des faits me troublent.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/vaccin/vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-en-espacant-les-deux-doses-de-vaccin-on-risque-d-avoir-des-mutations-du-virus-alerte-un-professeur-de-medecine_4255067.html

By spacing the two doses of vaccine, "we risk having mutations" of the virus, alerted Tuesday, January 12 on franceinfo, Professor Yves Buisson of the National Academy of Medicine, president of the Covid-19 cell .

In addition to the fact that "the delay may ensure that facilitating antibodies created could exacerbate Covid-19", the press release also indicates that "the low level of immunity (after the primary vaccination) will constitute a favorable ground for selecting the 'emergence of one or more variants escaping immunity induced by vaccination'.

Second question: is there a link between vaccines and the latest mutants? The press release from the Academy of Medicine says it is possible, and I am troubled by the facts.

It seems that you are not able to follow a scientific paper.

Let me spell out for you what is going on.

Here is Moderna's patent:

https://i2.wp.com/thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/o4b0PJ0.jpeg?w=618&ssl=1

Are you able to recognize the name of that substance?

That substance necessitates the use of HeLa cell lines. If you did not bother to read these papers, I will quote the significant passages.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

Where does it say Lucifrase necessitates the use of HeLa cell lines in the production of the vaccine? No where. Stop fabricating quotes that don't exist. Just because the paper mentions a word doesn't mean anything regarding your made up notions.

"The luciferase reporter gene assay has recently been adapted to test the effect of microRNAs.

Luciferase is a generic term for the class of oxidative enzymes that produce bioluminescence, and is usually distinguished from a photoprotein....Luciferases are widely used in biotechnology, for microscopy and as reporter genes, for many of the same applications as fluorescent proteins."

Combinatorial design

In order to obtain effective vaccine platforms, different beneficial mRNA elements have been joined.

Capping with ARCA has been combined with a long transcribed poly(A) tail of 100 residues. Such luciferase-encoding mRNA was tested in immortalized cell lines (JawsII, HepG2, HeLa) as well as immature and mature human dendritic cells.

Same substance, same HeLa cells.

I don't know why you're not getting this. For the millionth time, immortalized cells (HeLa) are sometimes used in the development of vaccines.

See your quote from the paper you referenced. Note the word "tested". Moderna does not use immortalized cells (HeLa) in the production of their Covid vaccine. Get it? In the PRODUCTION of their Covid vaccine.

Covid - 101:

"Are these cells (HEK293) in the vaccine?

No, there are not any HEK293 cells, or any other cells, in the mRNA vaccine itself. The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine. Pfizer did not use HEK293 cells at any stage of their vaccine."
https://covid-101.org/science/does-the-vaccine-contain-fetal-cells/

Your statement is laughable. ALL of the cell lines, in ALL of the labs around the world were contaminated with HeLa cell lines, every since the 1950s.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26116706/

From your source, "Here, we present a comprehensive survey of cross-contamination in 380 samples from 113 independent sources in China using short tandem repeat profiling methods."

Seems pretty specific to China. Where does it support your claim that "ALL of the cell lines, in ALL of the labs around the world were contaminated..."

Where are you getting ALL of the World from? Are there labs only in China?

You have changed your tone of voice, which means you are getting a measure of the unimaginable disaster which is happening right now.

Where does it say Lucifrase necessitates the use of HeLa cell lines in the production of the vaccine?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

Combinatorial design

In order to obtain effective vaccine platforms, different beneficial mRNA elements have been joined.

Capping with ARCA has been combined with a long transcribed poly(A) tail of 100 residues. Such luciferase-encoding mRNA was tested in immortalized cell lines (JawsII, HepG2, HeLa) as well as immature and mature human dendritic cells.

The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

But they did: the substance is grown in HeLa cell lines.

Question: if Jonas Salk had no idea he was actually using HeLa cell lines, and he trained five Nobel laureates, how would the scientists at Moderna and Pfizer know they were actually dealing with HeLa cell lines in all the stages of the development/production?

Section: mRNA purification

Increased protein expression as a result of stringent purification of mRNA was also observed when transcripts coding for luciferase or erythropoietin were purified by HPLC.

So, HeLa cell lines ARE used in the production of these mRNA vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm

3. Results

3.1. Construction and Screening of IVT-mRNA Systems

The results showed that the mode of 5’ and 3’ UTRs originating from human β-globulin was better than the mode of UTRs from human α-globulin, and the n3 mode was the best. mEGFP-n3, mH3HA-n3, and mLuciferease-n3 were prepared to compare the effect of cationic lipid nanoparticle (LNP) with that of mannose-conjugated LNP (LNP-Man) on the efficiency of gene delivery.


Are you saying that the substance which was grown in HeLa cell lines no longer has those cells attached to it? Of course not.

Seems pretty specific to China.

Same results were found by Dr. Nelson-Rees decades earlier.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19722756/

Henrietta Lacks, HeLa cells, and cell culture contamination

HeLa cells were used by researchers around the world. However, 20 years after Henrietta Lacks' death, mounting evidence suggested that HeLa cells contaminated and overgrew other cell lines.


Specifically, HeLa cell lines were used to grow the substance named in the patent. That substance is part of the development/production.

As soon as the trial vaccines were administered, the new strains appeared right in those countries: UK, SA, Brazil.

After the test was administered in Seattle, March 2020, a new powerful strain appeared in California, B.1.427/B.1.429.

Where does the B.1.1.7 strain come from which was found in Eastern Europe all over the territory? Exactly: the mycobacterium in Eastern Europe communicate through radio waves, thanks to the HeLa cells, with their counterparts in the UK, SA, Brazil.

Most of the people who got vaccinated are the carriers of the new strains, and they will spread them everywhere.

You have changed your tone of voice, which means you are getting a measure of the unimaginable disaster which is happening right now.

Where does it say Lucifrase necessitates the use of HeLa cell lines in the production of the vaccine?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

Combinatorial design

In order to obtain effective vaccine platforms, different beneficial mRNA elements have been joined.

Capping with ARCA has been combined with a long transcribed poly(A) tail of 100 residues. Such luciferase-encoding mRNA was tested in immortalized cell lines (JawsII, HepG2, HeLa) as well as immature and mature human dendritic cells.

The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

But they did: the substance is grown in HeLa cell lines.

That's weird, you are the only one who seems to be saying so. Where does it say the vaccine was PRODUCED using HeLa cell lines? Because this directly contradicts you: The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

Question: if Jonas Salk had no idea he was actually using HeLa cell lines, and he trained five Nobel laureates, how would the scientists at Moderna and Pfizer know they were actually dealing with HeLa cell lines in all the stages of the development/production?

Section: mRNA purification

Increased protein expression as a result of stringent purification of mRNA was also observed when transcripts coding for luciferase or erythropoietin were purified by HPLC.

So, HeLa cell lines ARE used in the production of these mRNA vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm

3. Results

3.1. Construction and Screening of IVT-mRNA Systems

The results showed that the mode of 5’ and 3’ UTRs originating from human β-globulin was better than the mode of UTRs from human α-globulin, and the n3 mode was the best. mEGFP-n3, mH3HA-n3, and mLuciferease-n3 were prepared to compare the effect of cationic lipid nanoparticle (LNP) with that of mannose-conjugated LNP (LNP-Man) on the efficiency of gene delivery.

Are you saying that the substance which was grown in HeLa cell lines no longer has those cells attached to it? Of course not.

You are the only person saying so. And you are wrong. Testing, yes. PRODUCTION, no.

"Messenger RNA vaccines, which include Moderna’s and BioNTech/Pfizer’s vaccines do not use cell lines during development, but they used HEK 293 cell lines to confirm antibody production. Both of these vaccines are also in Phase 3 trials. NOVAVAX, a protein-based vaccine that is also in Phase 3 trials, uses HEK 293 cells to confirm antibody production. Sinovac and Sinopharm are vaccines made from inactivated or attenuated SARS-CoV-2 virus. They are approved for limited use in China and use HEK 293 cells to confirm antibody production. Other vaccines are in pre-clinical, Phase 1, or Phase 2."
https://cbhd.org/content/coronavirus-vaccine-ethics

See the following chart. Notice the PRODUCTION column:


https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/

You see, PRODUCTION, "No cells used"

The smaller the particle the more brownian motion plays a part.

Vaccines don’t cause mutations or new strains.

Hope this clears things up.

I have the scientific papers which prove that the substance described in the patent was used both in the development and in the production of the vaccine.

This substance was developed using HeLa cell lines. How then can they say that the same substance now has no cell lines?

The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

But they did: the substance is grown in HeLa cell lines.

Question: if Jonas Salk had no idea he was actually using HeLa cell lines, and he trained five Nobel laureates, how would the scientists at Moderna and Pfizer know they were actually dealing with HeLa cell lines in all the stages of the development/production?

Section: mRNA purification

Increased protein expression as a result of stringent purification of mRNA was also observed when transcripts coding for luciferase or erythropoietin were purified by HPLC.

So, HeLa cell lines ARE used in the production of these mRNA vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/8/1/123/htm

3. Results

3.1. Construction and Screening of IVT-mRNA Systems

The results showed that the mode of 5’ and 3’ UTRs originating from human β-globulin was better than the mode of UTRs from human α-globulin, and the n3 mode was the best. mEGFP-n3, mH3HA-n3, and mLuciferease-n3 were prepared to compare the effect of cationic lipid nanoparticle (LNP) with that of mannose-conjugated LNP (LNP-Man) on the efficiency of gene delivery.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

Combinatorial design

In order to obtain effective vaccine platforms, different beneficial mRNA elements have been joined.

Capping with ARCA has been combined with a long transcribed poly(A) tail of 100 residues. Such luciferase-encoding mRNA was tested in immortalized cell lines (JawsII, HepG2, HeLa) as well as immature and mature human dendritic cells.

Vaccines don’t cause mutations or new strains.

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/covid-19-questions-sur-les-vaccins

Mais patatras, voilà que l’Académie de médecine s’y met, et maladroitement, car son explication pour ne pas différer la seconde injection, remet dans le circuit le risque de mutations dues aux vaccins. Outre le fait que « le retard peut faire en sorte que des anticorps facilitants créés pourrait exacerber la Covid-19 », le communiqué indique aussi que « le faible niveau d’immunité (après la primo-vaccination) constituera un terrain favorable pour sélectionner l’émergence d’un ou de plusieurs variants échappant à l’immunité induite par la vaccination ». Cela a été répété par Yves Buisson rapporteur, sur France Info.

Seconde question : y a-t-il un lien entre vaccins et derniers mutants ? Le communiqué de l’Académie de médecine dit que c’est possible, et des faits me troublent.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/vaccin/vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-en-espacant-les-deux-doses-de-vaccin-on-risque-d-avoir-des-mutations-du-virus-alerte-un-professeur-de-medecine_4255067.html

By spacing the two doses of vaccine, "we risk having mutations" of the virus, alerted Tuesday, January 12 on franceinfo, Professor Yves Buisson of the National Academy of Medicine, president of the Covid-19 cell .

In addition to the fact that "the delay may ensure that facilitating antibodies created could exacerbate Covid-19", the press release also indicates that "the low level of immunity (after the primary vaccination) will constitute a favorable ground for selecting the 'emergence of one or more variants escaping immunity induced by vaccination'.

Second question: is there a link between vaccines and the latest mutants? The press release from the Academy of Medicine says it is possible, and I am troubled by the facts.

I have the scientific papers which prove that the substance described in the patent was used both in the development and in the production of the vaccine.

Nope, you don't. Nowhere does it say cells were used in the PRODUCTION.

This substance was developed using HeLa cell lines. How then can they say that the same substance now has no cell lines?

Nope, tested only. Production = No cell lines. (See chart again) If you have a problem with that, take it up with Moderna, Pfizer, et al.

The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

But they did: the substance is grown in HeLa cell lines.

Nope, tested only. Production = No cell lines. (See chart again) Stomp your feet all you want, but the evidence is clear. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Moderna, Pfizer, et al.

It doesn't matter what is says: none other than Jonas Salk had no idea that he was using HeLa cell lines. None of the labs around the world know.

What matters is that they use luciferase during production.

Section: mRNA purification

Increased protein expression as a result of stringent purification of mRNA was also observed when transcripts coding for luciferase or erythropoietin were purified by HPLC.

So, HeLa cell lines ARE used in the production of these mRNA vaccines.

As soon as luciferase is used, there you will find HeLa cells within the same substance.

The Moderna vaccine used a DNA vector that was produced using HEK293 cells, but the company did not use these cells to develop or manufacture their vaccine.

The DNA vector is used during production. The DNA vector still has those cells attached to it. Luciferase was grown in HeLa cell lines. Then they use this substance during the production.

It doesn't matter what is says:

Hilarious. It doesn't matter what it says? Why would it not matter? Just because vaccine makers directly contradict your claims it doesn't matter??? That's funny.

See the following chart. Notice the PRODUCTION column:


https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/

You see, PRODUCTION, "No cells used"

Like I said, take your false claims to Moderna, Pfizer, et al. I'm sure they will listen to you.