Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!

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totallackey

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #210 on: July 23, 2017, 04:36:23 PM »
Can the math be applied to something observable AND repeatable, yes or no?

The answer = no?

Result = shove the math up your ass and STFU.

I just scaled the rotational force upon a water drop on Earths equator down to a tennis ball, so the answer should be yes. Why would you say it's no, you think there's something wrong in my calculations?
Do a video of the tennis ball covered in water showing the water remaining on the surface, spinning or not spinning.

Could be tricky to show because I would need a zero gravitational enviroment in order to do it as far as my calculations are concerend. The point still stands that no water would be thrown off the ball at a mere 8 revolutions per minute.
You do not know that and cannot demonstrate it as a fact.

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Sentinel

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #211 on: July 23, 2017, 04:40:37 PM »
Water in zero g will not stick to a sphere either.

Well, obviously it does stick to a hand...

"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible."

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #212 on: July 23, 2017, 04:48:14 PM »
totallackey is right. If I am going to model the Earth as a spinning ball, and the ball I am using is smaller than the Earth, the spin would be faster.
Fixed that long drawn out bullshit for you.
No, just like always, you are being a dishonest piece of shit and blatantly lying about what people have said.

Here is a shorter version:
If you want to keep the centrifugal force the same, you increase the angular velocity and decrease the tangential velocity, i.e. those 1000 miles per hour spinning tennis balls are BS.
If you want to keep the ratio of centrifugal force to gravitational force the same, you keep the angular velocity constant and massively reduce the tangential velocity.

You are left admitting the claim cannot be replicated, either in zero g or one g.
It can be replicated but it requires technology that FEers would just dismiss as a lie anyway, such as going to space.
It was effectively replicated by going to the moon.

You have the issue of Earth's gravity, requiring the experiment to be completely outside the Roche limit, well into space.
You also have the issue of surface tension, requiring a very large experiment.

Water in zero g will not stick to a sphere either.
Water alone will form a sphere. and will adhere to lots of things in 0g, primarily because of surface tension.


I provided you this before:


You do not know that and cannot demonstrate it as a fact.
We can calculate both, the force due to gravity and the apparent centrifugal force (including based upon experimental observations).
We can thus know that gravity will win.
Thus we can know.

We don't need to do it exactly like you want to know.

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totallackey

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #213 on: July 23, 2017, 04:48:59 PM »
Water in zero g will not stick to a sphere either.

Well, obviously it does stick to a hand...


Aside from believing that any person in their sane fucking mind would turn loose water in an electrified tin can purportedly in space...

ISS - "Houston, permission to turn loose one liter of of water in the electrical compartment."
Houston - "Roger that ISS...you have a GO!"

LMFAO!!!

You think gravity is the cause of his hand being wet...

Idiot...

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totallackey

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #214 on: July 23, 2017, 04:52:46 PM »
We don't need to do it exactly like you want to know, because in truth, we can't and you are right.

FTFY.

Now GFO Jack.

You are the biggest sack of shit liar the internet has ever seen.

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Sentinel

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #215 on: July 23, 2017, 04:55:12 PM »


You think gravity is the cause of his hand being wet...

Idiot...

Where did I actually said that?  ???
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totallackey

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #216 on: July 23, 2017, 04:57:40 PM »


You think gravity is the cause of his hand being wet...

Idiot...

Where did I actually said that?  ???
Overtly, nowhere.

By implication in your BS video.

Now go peddle your papers, little parrot...

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Sentinel

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #217 on: July 23, 2017, 05:13:06 PM »


You think gravity is the cause of his hand being wet...

Idiot...

Where did I actually said that?  ???
Overtly, nowhere.

By implication in your BS video.

Now go peddle your papers, little parrot...

Obviously you didn't understand a thing in that video.  :-\
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totallackey

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #218 on: July 23, 2017, 05:19:41 PM »
Obviously you didn't understand a thing in that video.  :-\
Obviously, you believe in:

ISS - "Houston, permission to turn loose water in this electrified environment..."
Houston - "Roger that ISS! You have a GO!"

Second, if the point of the video was not to demonstrate water sticking to sphere or anything else directly relevant to supporting your claim, then why the fuck did you introduce it?

Go ahead and explain its relevance to your math.

Does it have any or not?

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #219 on: July 23, 2017, 05:52:09 PM »
Can you please tell us, the coordinates where the Big Bang happened. (x, y, z)

or is this too hard for you...

That would be the origin of the Universe.
That is totally irrelevant to your own topic, "Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all".

The "Spherical Earth" is about what we have NOW, the big bang is one hypothesis as to how everything might have started.
A whole differetnt kettle of fish!
So please stop trying to divert your own topic!
I'm not going to buy in to that sort of thing, so read what someone else wrote
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There's no exact spot that the Big Bang happened.

In fact, the Big Bang happened everywhere in the Universe. The problem generally comes from the term “Big Bang”. It brings to mind explosions, detonations, balloons being popped, and everything being blown out to chickenbasket hades. Feb 27, 2017

Go read the rest for yourself in: Where Did the Big Bang Happen? - Universe Today

         
:D In other words there was no “Big Bang” and it occured everywhere. :D

Stick at least to recorded history that we might have some sort of solid evidence for.


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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #220 on: July 23, 2017, 06:36:02 PM »
Can you please tell us, the coordinates where the Big Bang happened. (x, y, z)

or is this too hard for you...

That would be the origin of the Universe.

My, this has been a busy thread! Sorry to be late to the party. I was in the real world for a few hours.

Anyway... the x, y, z coordinates for the origin universe are:

...wait for it...

...wait for it...

0, 0, 0. 

:D

And, as an added bonus: t = 0!  ;)

Any questions?  :)
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #221 on: July 23, 2017, 11:09:24 PM »
All I asked the pilot was about the gyroscope and the deafening silence from him is overwhelming….

I think that we may have a new Flat Earther…
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #222 on: July 23, 2017, 11:26:04 PM »
All I asked the pilot was about the gyroscope and the deafening silence from him is overwhelming….

I think that we may have a new Flat Earther…


Or, perhaps, the pilot has a job and had to sleep last night and operate four flights today.  Lighten up, Francis, I'm getting to it.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #223 on: July 23, 2017, 11:27:29 PM »
OK so maybe some actual physicists, which I am not, can help explain the calculations in the OP, because they don't make any sense.

IFE says that velocity is angular velocity multiplied by radius. Well firstly, which radius - the radius of the Earth or the radius from the pole to the airport? That matters a lot because the direction of the spin is around the pole, not one around the centre of a sphere.

We then go on to calculate an angular velocity of the Earth using a rotational speed, which he has calculated, divided by that radius. That's just super but the calculations for angular velocity I can find show it to be derived by dividing the change in angle over time. Surely this means that angular velocity should actually be the difference in longitude divided by time, with a value in radians, not metres per second?

So in one calculation he's multiplying two values, and in the other he's dividing, and coming up with numbers that are only relevant to a point on the equator. Surely the velocity of any point on Earth is the time that point takes to travel the entire length of that latitude? The angular velocity is something different.

He seems to be using two terms interchangeably, and calculating values that aren't relevant.

Can anyone explain?
Facts won't do what I want them to.

We went from a round Earth to a round Moon: http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/apollo.html

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #224 on: July 23, 2017, 11:36:21 PM »
All I asked the pilot was about the gyroscope and the deafening silence from him is overwhelming….

I think that we may have a new Flat Earther…


Or, perhaps, the pilot has a job and had to sleep last night and operate four flights today.  Lighten up, Francis, I'm getting to it.

That's OK, I will be waiting for his reply...

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #225 on: July 23, 2017, 11:37:32 PM »
May I suggest that nobody writes in this thread until the pilot answers.

That way we will not miss his post.

Do we all agree?
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #226 on: July 24, 2017, 12:05:57 AM »
Don't come on here spouting off about being some genius of a fucking airline pilot and then try to pull some fucking shit out your ass comparison between a tennis ball and the earth, claiming if the tennis ball moves at one revolution per day no water would fly off...

The tennis ball IS SMALLER and the rotational speed would by necessity be FASTER you tremendous fucking dick.

GTFO with your stupidity.

Go back to the fucking lounge in the airport,cop a couple of more drinks, and never post such ignorance again.
Gosh, that was immature. 

I brought up the experiment of the water and tennis ball, which I have seen before in a vapid attempt to demonstrate that if the earth were spinning we would all go flying off into space, only to demonstrate that many of the FE attempts to refute a round Earth use analogies that are not scaled correctly.  Like a tennis ball spinning at 1000 RPM, or a pilot having to noticeably "dip" the airplane every few minutes.

So first:  the tennis ball.  Forget about the tennis ball.  You wonder why we don't feel motion spinning at the equator at 1000 m/s?  Because everything around you is spinning at the SAME SPEED.  The ground, the air, the grass, the water.  Try this:  drive a car on the freeway with the windows rolled up.  Stick your hand next to the window.  You won't feel anything, because everything in the car is moving at the same speed.  There is no howling wind, it feels as if you are still.  (Apply a force, like a turn, or acceleration/deceleration, and you will feel the motion, but once the car returns to a steady state of motion, you will feel nothing again.  Don't bother with the video of the pickup filled with water, it was all over the place, and the forces were in constant change.)

Now, roll down the window.  You feel the air - it's called DRAG - pushing against your hand.  That is what FE theorists expect to feel if the Earth were rotating, but it would require an atmosphere that is NOT rotating.  The rotating Earth, four billion years ago, created friction with the lower layers of the primordial atmosphere, and that DRAG caused the atmosphere to rotate with the Earth.  The upper layers began to rotate because of DRAG.  I have demonstrated that DRAG is a real thing in a gas.  This is why the atmosphere rotates.  There is nothing above it to create DRAG in the opposite direction to slow it down, and because an object in motion (the atmosphere) remains in motion it will always rotate with the Earth.

Now, about the gyroscope.  If airplanes were equipped with the toys you showed images of we would all be dead.  Fortunately, aerospace engineers know that the earth is round, so they created a means to keep the gyro upright.  When an airplane powers down, the gyro tumbles and comes to rest in any odd position, like this.



If we were to fire up the plane and there was no means to erect the gyro, it would always look like this, and be useless for flight.  But engineers designed "vanes" in the base of the gyro to allow airflow to pass.  If the gyro is tipped, more air is forced out in one direction, which pushes the gyro in the opposite direction.  It keeps wobbling like this until it reaches equilibrium where air is moving through the vents equally.  The vents are kept in position because of gravity, so this self erecting mechanism will always keep the gyro upright in relation to the ground beneath, and it will follow the curve of the earth because gravity always works perpendicular to the surface of the earth in any given location.

Here's a video of a gyro stabilizing in the upright position.  You can see the wobble as the air is pushing the gyro around until it reaches equilibrium.  The view is of the back side.

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There were other questions in the last 24 hours, but I don't have time right now, I'll address them later.


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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #227 on: July 24, 2017, 12:12:51 AM »
He presented the numerical data in the plots. I say that the accuracy displayed there can not be achieved with his equipment.

I would expect the precision of the results to be of order 5-10%, but this is just a rough guess and definitely depends on the used method.
As he wants to determine a 0.25% difference (at most), I would want an accuracy at this order of magnitude.

But please be honest with youself: Do you really think the obtained data with only 0.5% deviation can be obtained with an iphone 7 video camera and a person jumping?
I am actually curious in your honest answer InFlatEarth. If you guys want more, here is the matlab code I used to "analyze" the data:

fake = zeros(1,100);
fake(1:100) = 9.807;
fluc =  rand([2 100]);
fluc2 =  (fluc-0.5)./1000;
data = fluc2+9.807
trial = 1:1:100;
figure(1)
plot(trial,data(1,:),'b-o')
title('New York State');
xlabel('Trial Number');
ylabel('Acceleration of Gravity');
hold on
plot(trial,fake,'r');
legend('Measured Values','Average');
figure(2)
plot(trial,data(2,:),'b-o')
title('Indonesia');
xlabel('Trial Number');
ylabel('Acceleration of Gravity');
hold on
plot(trial,fake,'r');
legend('Measured Values','Average');

I apologize to the people who put effort into showing me the flaws in my "methods". I did learn about the existence of a gravimeter from you guys though. InFlatEarth, I appreciate you defending me, but your defenses don't really make any sense. I did graduate from GW but I have not been a PhD student for two years. In truth, I just graduated College and am starting my PhD at CMU this fall. In the words of my favorite cartoon character ever, "I just got bored. Everybody out." ... JimmyTheCrab probably gets that reference ;)

There appears to be a discrepancy between your own assumed vs your actual level of intelligence, and it's really irritating that you are subjecting us to the results of this discrepancy...

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #228 on: July 24, 2017, 12:28:30 AM »
Don't come on here spouting off about being some genius of a fucking airline pilot and then try to pull some fucking shit out your ass comparison between a tennis ball and the earth, claiming if the tennis ball moves at one revolution per day no water would fly off...

The tennis ball IS SMALLER and the rotational speed would by necessity be FASTER you tremendous fucking dick.

GTFO with your stupidity.

Go back to the fucking lounge in the airport,cop a couple of more drinks, and never post such ignorance again.
Gosh, that was immature. 

I brought up the experiment of the water and tennis ball, which I have seen before in a vapid attempt to demonstrate that if the earth were spinning we would all go flying off into space, only to demonstrate that many of the FE attempts to refute a round Earth use analogies that are not scaled correctly.  Like a tennis ball spinning at 1000 RPM, or a pilot having to noticeably "dip" the airplane every few minutes.

So first:  the tennis ball.  Forget about the tennis ball.  You wonder why we don't feel motion spinning at the equator at 1000 m/s?  Because everything around you is spinning at the SAME SPEED.  The ground, the air, the grass, the water.  Try this:  drive a car on the freeway with the windows rolled up.  Stick your hand next to the window.  You won't feel anything, because everything in the car is moving at the same speed.  There is no howling wind, it feels as if you are still.  (Apply a force, like a turn, or acceleration/deceleration, and you will feel the motion, but once the car returns to a steady state of motion, you will feel nothing again.  Don't bother with the video of the pickup filled with water, it was all over the place, and the forces were in constant change.)

Now, roll down the window.  You feel the air - it's called DRAG - pushing against your hand.  That is what FE theorists expect to feel if the Earth were rotating, but it would require an atmosphere that is NOT rotating.  The rotating Earth, four billion years ago, created friction with the lower layers of the primordial atmosphere, and that DRAG caused the atmosphere to rotate with the Earth.  The upper layers began to rotate because of DRAG.  I have demonstrated that DRAG is a real thing in a gas.  This is why the atmosphere rotates.  There is nothing above it to create DRAG in the opposite direction to slow it down, and because an object in motion (the atmosphere) remains in motion it will always rotate with the Earth.

Now, about the gyroscope.  If airplanes were equipped with the toys you showed images of we would all be dead.  Fortunately, aerospace engineers know that the earth is round, so they created a means to keep the gyro upright.  When an airplane powers down, the gyro tumbles and comes to rest in any odd position, like this.



If we were to fire up the plane and there was no means to erect the gyro, it would always look like this, and be useless for flight.  But engineers designed "vanes" in the base of the gyro to allow airflow to pass.  If the gyro is tipped, more air is forced out in one direction, which pushes the gyro in the opposite direction.  It keeps wobbling like this until it reaches equilibrium where air is moving through the vents equally.  The vents are kept in position because of gravity, so this self erecting mechanism will always keep the gyro upright in relation to the ground beneath, and it will follow the curve of the earth because gravity always works perpendicular to the surface of the earth in any given location.

Here's a video of a gyro stabilizing in the upright position.  You can see the wobble as the air is pushing the gyro around until it reaches equilibrium.  The view is of the back side.

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There were other questions in the last 24 hours, but I don't have time right now, I'll address them later.

In your 13,000 hours of flight, have you ever manually correct your gyroscope while in flight and if so, at what intervals?

Also I have found this document where they explain "How to build an attitude indicator with servomotors"

www.opencockpits.com/index.php/en/download?task=callelement&format=raw&item_id=35&element=f85c494b-2b32-4109-b8c1-083cca2b7db6&method=download&args[0]=8cbc50c30f6ba3bf003cf960a20cf1a9

I did not see any mechanism to automatically correct the gyroscope position. If their is, please tell me the page on the document.

If i would take a portable gyroscope on a flight from the USA to Japan, would it remain level for the entire flight, or would it rotate with the earths curvature?
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #229 on: July 24, 2017, 12:35:17 AM »
He presented the numerical data in the plots. I say that the accuracy displayed there can not be achieved with his equipment.

I would expect the precision of the results to be of order 5-10%, but this is just a rough guess and definitely depends on the used method.
As he wants to determine a 0.25% difference (at most), I would want an accuracy at this order of magnitude.

But please be honest with youself: Do you really think the obtained data with only 0.5% deviation can be obtained with an iphone 7 video camera and a person jumping?
I am actually curious in your honest answer InFlatEarth. If you guys want more, here is the matlab code I used to "analyze" the data:

fake = zeros(1,100);
fake(1:100) = 9.807;
fluc =  rand([2 100]);
fluc2 =  (fluc-0.5)./1000;
data = fluc2+9.807
trial = 1:1:100;
figure(1)
plot(trial,data(1,:),'b-o')
title('New York State');
xlabel('Trial Number');
ylabel('Acceleration of Gravity');
hold on
plot(trial,fake,'r');
legend('Measured Values','Average');
figure(2)
plot(trial,data(2,:),'b-o')
title('Indonesia');
xlabel('Trial Number');
ylabel('Acceleration of Gravity');
hold on
plot(trial,fake,'r');
legend('Measured Values','Average');

I apologize to the people who put effort into showing me the flaws in my "methods". I did learn about the existence of a gravimeter from you guys though. InFlatEarth, I appreciate you defending me, but your defenses don't really make any sense. I did graduate from GW but I have not been a PhD student for two years. In truth, I just graduated College and am starting my PhD at CMU this fall. In the words of my favorite cartoon character ever, "I just got bored. Everybody out." ... JimmyTheCrab probably gets that reference ;)

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« Reply #230 on: July 24, 2017, 01:23:47 AM »
Again, not making any sense... You were talking about a ball in a plane, that would get back to your hand as long as the plane stayed on its course. The same applies for Earth. Of course if the plane moves abruptly, the ball will not get back in your hand, and then the comparison with Earth ends because it does not move abruptly.

Also, this 3D video of the solar system sporting a vortex has been flagged as wrong many times.

The planets do not drag behind the sun. They sometimes pass in front of it (relatively to its own motion around the center of the galaxy). That is because the solar system (direction of the ecliptic) makes an angle with the direction of the Sun. So planets are sometimes in front of the Sun, sometimes behind.

If all you want to remember is that planets in orbit make fancy helicoids when their star moves, then yes that is true.

But in reality it looks more like this :
http://i.imgur.com/rLr8Swh.mp4

Join the planets with a line to draw the ecliptic, you can see the angle I was talking about.
Hey, finally a RE-tard that claims to have the CGI of the Solar System in motion through the Universe!!!

Do you have the math that was utilized to render this CGI and can you verify it is legitimate, sourcing Keplar, et.al.?

Without undermining the pilot's answer to the main question of this thread, I'll answer you.

You should be more precise. This animation doesn't show the Solar System's motion through the Universe but the Milky Way, our galaxy. Then, it doesn't show the galaxy at all. Its only goal is to represent the accurate angle between the ecliptic and the galactic plane. It is a direct reply to the "vortex" video linked by InFlatEarth. This video was made by a guy very skilled in 3D animation (what you call CGI), but it is sadly inaccurate on 2 main accounts :

1) It shows the angle between the ecliptic and galactic plane to be 90°. The planets revolve exactly sideways compared to the Sun's path. The actual angle is about 60°.

2) It shows the planets trailing behind the Sun, always behind it, like wagons tugged by a locomotive.

Now if you look at this animation I linked, you can see how it corrects these 2 mistakes. The angle is 60° and the planets go in front of the Sun during their orbit. And that's all, no more no less.

The other parameters of this animation are simplified :
  • The size of the planets are not to scale (or you wouldn't see anything).
  • The size of their orbits are not to scale.
  • Their respective periods are to scale.
  • The slight tilts between orbits are represented.
  • The speed of the Sun through the Milky Way on one hand, and the speed of the planets' revolution around it on the other hand, are not to scale. If that was the case, you would see straight lines in place of helicoids, because the Sun is much faster than the planets. That would ruin the helicoid effect, which is a big part of the vortex video, and completely true.

Please note that the vortex video also has the same simplifications listed above.

About the 60° tilt, we know it through direct observation :

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Our own solar system is tipped by about 60 degrees with respect to the plane of the galaxy. You can see that on this infrared picture taken by the IRAS satellite. The picture is a little tricky to interpret because, like many maps of the Earth, it's an Aitoff projection, which means that the entire sky has been flattened onto an ellipse. But you should be able to see that the angle between the bright horizontal band (the Milky Way's disk) and the blue haze (dust in the plane of the solar system) crosses at an angle of something like 60 degrees.



Aitoff projection :
http://www.progonos.com/furuti/MapProj/Normal/ProjMAz/projMAz.html

IRAS :
http://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/IRASdocs/iras.html

The other maths (like the duration of each planet's year and its tilt on the ecliptic), you can find anywhere.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #231 on: July 24, 2017, 01:34:27 AM »
In your 13,000 hours of flight, have you ever manually correct your gyroscope while in flight and if so, at what intervals?

The pilot has already answered you, no. Why do you keep asking ?

Toy gyroscopes have 3 degrees of liberty. Gyroscopes in planes have only 2. The last one is always corrected to point downwards, even when the plane makes a banked turn.

Imagine a toy gyroscope of which the vertical axis is constrained by a plumb line. That's more or less what happens in planes, although they use more sophisticated accelerometers.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #232 on: July 24, 2017, 01:46:48 AM »
In your 13,000 hours of flight, have you ever manually correct your gyroscope while in flight and if so, at what intervals?

The pilot has already answered you, no. Why do you keep asking ?

Toy gyroscopes have 3 degrees of liberty. Gyroscopes in planes have only 2. The last one is always corrected to point downwards, even when the plane makes a banked turn.

Imagine a toy gyroscope of which the vertical axis is constrained by a plumb line. That's more or less what happens in planes, although they use more sophisticated accelerometers.

Do you mean 3 degrees of freedom?

If you have to correct something while he is flying, then it not dependable and would never get approved by the FAA.

It's like you having to calibrate your speedometer every 3 minutes while your driving.

If on the other hand, once the airplane has landed, then yes, you can calibrate the gyroscope. Different scenario totally.

He has not answered if he fixes it manually as someone posted a link in this thread, while he is in flight.

From the documentation that I have posted, their are non automatic fixing mechanism in the gyroscope machinery.

If he tells us, that he manually corrects the gyroscope while he is flying ever x amount of minutes, then I would agree with you that the Earth is round.

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Edge_Loop

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #233 on: July 24, 2017, 01:48:14 AM »
It has been proven that you will vehemently argue the side of ANY COMPLETELY MADE UP evidence as long as it appears to support Flat Earth.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #234 on: July 24, 2017, 01:54:27 AM »
The truth will set you free
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Edge_Loop

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #235 on: July 24, 2017, 01:56:06 AM »
It already has.

The truth is you are full of crap and it was proven in another thread.

That truth set me free from your crap.

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telsarbg

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #236 on: July 24, 2017, 01:59:40 AM »
If you have to correct something while he is flying, then it not dependable and would never get approved by the FAA.

It's like you having to calibrate your speedometer every 3 minutes while your driving.

If on the other hand, once the airplane has landed, then yes, you can calibrate the gyroscope. Different scenario totally.

He has not answered if he fixes it manually as someone posted a link in this thread, while he is in flight.

From the documentation that I have posted, their are non automatic fixing mechanism in the gyroscope machinery.

If he tells us, that he manually corrects the gyroscope while he is flying ever x amount of minutes, then I would agree with you that the Earth is round.

Your dishonesty is staggering. I just told you that the gyroscope is fixed with accelerometers, not the pilot. Why continue on this stupid idea that proves nothing ? Here you're playing with highly technical subjects while also playing the dumbest you can. Pilots don't fix their gyroscopes manually and you know that. They're perfectly designed not to require it. Why don't you call the FAA ?

Federal Aviation Administration
800 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20591
(866) TELL-FAA ((866) 835-5322)

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #237 on: July 24, 2017, 01:59:40 AM »
If think logic will help you sleep at night, then believe it, just like you believe that your ancestor was a Monkey.

You know what they say, Monkey see, Monkey do
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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JackBlack

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #238 on: July 24, 2017, 03:04:24 AM »
Quote from: totallackey being a lying piece of shit
We don't need to do it exactly like you want to know, because in truth, we can't and you are right.

FTFY.
Yes you do seem to like fucking things don't you?
Is it because you can't get laid.

I explained why we don't need to do it your way. Do you have any rational response to it, or just pathetic lies?


Now GFO Jack.

You are the biggest sack of shit liar the internet has ever seen.
And there you go describing yourself again.
You should follow your own advice.

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JackBlack

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #239 on: July 24, 2017, 03:06:43 AM »
May I suggest that nobody writes in this thread until the pilot answers.

That way we will not miss his post.

Do we all agree?
No. How about you respond to what others have said like a rational adult.
Gyroscopes in planes have a self righting mechanism. They will automatically re-right themselves to align with the effective direction of gravity.