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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #90 on: March 25, 2017, 10:01:48 PM »
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Now you have your Hitler II that you deserve.



Hitler? Seriously?

Yes look at the parallels.

-Blaming all Problems on a other Religion.
-saying that the media that does not support him is fake News.
-extremely corrupt

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #91 on: March 25, 2017, 11:29:36 PM »
There's never been a president that wasn't compared to Hitler going all the way back to George Washington, granted the accusation didn't make much sense until about 70 years ago.

On the other hand this kind of scrutiny on anyone wielding that much power is a good thing as long as it's an informed criticism and not something like "he's a crypto-atheist-muslim-communist!!!111". 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2017, 03:08:03 PM »
This headline was hilarious to me.

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Yeah, I have a dark sense of humor.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #93 on: March 26, 2017, 03:30:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/846112245797007360

 Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 57m57 minutes ago
News Alert: @POTUS spending weekend working at the White House.



NEWS ALERT!

We might as well find it all hilarious. What else can we do?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2017, 07:57:55 PM »
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We might as well find it all hilarious. What else can we do?

Laugh at the comment section?

I did.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #95 on: March 26, 2017, 08:09:26 PM »
It's based on things that might not be apparent unless you're very familiar with its history.

Trump spent a lot of time criticizing Obama for going golfing too much. On the campaign trail he promised to never take a vacation while in office. Since Trump took office he has spent every weekend at his own high end resort golfing and billing the tax payers for it at tremendous expense. In fact if it keeps going this way he's going to run up a golf budget higher than a lot of the public programs wants to cancel.

It's one of those things that don't really matter that much. Presidents never take actual vacations. They just try to do something relaxing while also doing business. But it's still something people like to criticize the president for.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2017, 08:32:22 PM »
Oh I get it, I just think it's petty. I gave heaps of shit to the guys saying obama was a kenyan muslim.

We can criticize his policy without chimping out like the comment section.

I don't like his policies on healthcare.

I don't like that criminals in the last governments aren't in jail.

Few more things, the guy could be a little thicker skinned and he should think before he tweets.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #97 on: March 27, 2017, 08:24:18 AM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 25, 2017, 02:15:25 AM
I don't vote for people. I vote for policy.

Ergo, Trump.

He seems to have a bit of trouble with that one...  ::)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #98 on: March 27, 2017, 09:58:43 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on March 26, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
Oh I get it, I just think it's petty. I gave heaps of shit to the guys saying obama was a kenyan muslim.

We can criticize his policy without chimping out like the comment section.

I don't like his policies on healthcare.

I don't like that criminals in the last governments aren't in jail.

Few more things, the guy could be a little thicker skinned and he should think before he tweets.

It is petty.  Well normally it would be petty.  The scale of it changes things a little.  A while back Trump released a budget proposal slashing pretty much everything except military spending. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-presidential-budget-2018-proposal/?utm_term=.1244fddf1b6c

There's some pretty juicy cuts there such as the cuts to the EPA and the State Department which total billions.  But there's also a lot of smaller programs that he would like to see cut.

http://time.com/money/4639544/trump-nea-sesame-street-budget-cut/

A lot of these are less than Trump's golf budget.  A few that stand out to me are the Office of Violence Against Women and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.  The CPB makes a show call 'Sesame Street', among other things.  I'm not sure if it's well known outside of the U.S.  It's an educational show for children with muppets, extremely popular here. 

So to see Trump say that we need to cut funding to Sesame Street to survive and then spend even more tax payer money on golfing at a high end resort, it just seems a little too close to a 'let them eat cake' moment.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #99 on: March 27, 2017, 12:57:51 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 26, 2017, 03:30:41 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/846112245797007360

 Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 57m57 minutes ago
News Alert: @POTUS spending weekend working at the White House.



NEWS ALERT!

We might as well find it all hilarious. What else can we do?

Fake news it turns out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/27/fox-news-said-trump-spent-the-weekend-working-at-the-white-house-he-was-at-his-golf-club/?utm_term=.88e46db23a73
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #100 on: March 27, 2017, 03:23:33 PM »
Yeah, people were replying to that tweet with pictures of him golfing!

Did you see Ted Koppel tell Hannity that he is bad for America?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #101 on: March 27, 2017, 05:09:49 PM »
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if almost anyone else had gone up against him, he would have lost.

I don't disagree with that.

However I think Trump is trying his best, which is more than can be said for the last few presidents.
I don't agree with that.  I think trump is in over his head and doesn't seem to be doing the actual work.  He shows no indication of doing his homework and actually trying to understand the intricacies of the various situations.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #102 on: March 27, 2017, 05:13:50 PM »
Better than those that would intentionally throw us to the wolves imo.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #103 on: March 27, 2017, 05:16:51 PM »
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if almost anyone else had gone up against him, he would have lost.

I don't disagree with that.

However I think Trump is trying his best, which is more than can be said for the last few presidents.
I don't agree with that.  I think trump is in over his head and doesn't seem to be doing the actual work.  He shows no indication of doing his homework and actually trying to understand the intricacies of the various situations.


Leaders lead. They don't get their knees dirty.

The past few decades has devolved into an executive v. legislative death match.

The combatants need to get back in their respective corners and start doing the jobs they were hired to do.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #104 on: March 27, 2017, 05:39:57 PM »
^^

Based.

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So is meme magick dangerous? Curtis suggests it is, but uses a phrase familiar to government intelligence communities to describe the phenomenon: "perception management."

Plus they are absolutely terrified that /we/ are about to pull the curtains down from the last 15 years.

In my very humble opinion.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #105 on: March 27, 2017, 06:19:58 PM »
Let's give it another 1,500 hours and see what happens.

Only 32,850 hours to go.   ::)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #106 on: March 27, 2017, 08:30:22 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on March 27, 2017, 05:13:50 PM
Better than those that would intentionally throw us to the wolves imo.
I don't think there's any question trump wants to throw us to the wolves.  It's literally his business model.  Everyone not him is worthy of getting shit on.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #107 on: March 27, 2017, 08:36:59 PM »
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Quote from: disputeone on March 27, 2017, 05:13:50 PM
Better than those that would intentionally throw us to the wolves imo.
I don't think there's any question trump wants to throw us to the wolves.  It's literally his business model.  Everyone not him is worthy of getting shit on.

We are on different pages.

That's fine. We can agree to disagree :).
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #108 on: March 27, 2017, 08:40:00 PM »
I think it's too early to tell.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #109 on: March 27, 2017, 08:59:11 PM »
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Better than those that would intentionally throw us to the wolves imo.
I don't think there's any question trump wants to throw us to the wolves.  It's literally his business model.  Everyone not him is worthy of getting shit on.


In all fairness, poor people in America are not unclothed and starving in the streets.

If minimum wage was a million dollars per year the poverty level would be one million dollars per year.

Like digging a hole in the surface of a lake. 



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #110 on: March 28, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #111 on: March 28, 2017, 05:36:09 PM »
Bannon should tell Trump to veto the ISP thing, this would be something easy he could do to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #112 on: March 28, 2017, 05:41:06 PM »
Any move to censor or control the internet will be met with fierce resistance.

If you want to hide what you are doing use a proxy.

I hope Trump refuses to sign it.

There will be consequences, the internet gave us free dissemination of information, they are now rushing to close down all lines of free and open communication. Whats the point of controlling television when we can get our news and information from locals and peers.

Scary stuff.

I fear soon we will all be forced to sign up for facebook and browse the internet through facebook. (We will dos it into oblivion if this happens) where everything we have ever done is kept on record to make a character profile.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #113 on: March 28, 2017, 05:54:35 PM »
Trump's advisers are telling him to sign it.  It's really a no brainer.  Secretly selling customer data is pretty hard to defend unless you're working for the corporations.

The forced sign up for Facebook is still a ways away.  But I've heard murmurs here and there.  Job applicants forced to hand over their logins to employers.  Very troubling.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #114 on: March 28, 2017, 06:08:42 PM »
It sure is troubling.

It's sad this is the way things are going.

I still feel Trump was the better candidate to stand up against globalization.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #115 on: March 28, 2017, 11:04:33 PM »
Quote from: crutonius on March 28, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
The forced sign up for Facebook is still a ways away.  But I've heard murmurs here and there.  Job applicants forced to hand over their logins to employers.  Very troubling.

When it happens I'm going to go live in a cabin or a cave and eat Moose meat!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #116 on: March 28, 2017, 11:22:39 PM »
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Quote from: crutonius on March 28, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
The forced sign up for Facebook is still a ways away.  But I've heard murmurs here and there.  Job applicants forced to hand over their logins to employers.  Very troubling.

When it happens I'm going to go live in a cabin or a cave and eat Moose meat!

RUN AWAY BULLWINKLE!!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #117 on: March 29, 2017, 06:26:08 AM »
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It sure is troubling.

It's sad this is the way things are going.

I still feel Trump was the better candidate to stand up against globalization.

and that would be also a horror for all the Flat Earth Idea Believer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #118 on: March 29, 2017, 06:30:46 AM »
Quote from: crutonius on March 28, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
The forced sign up for Facebook is still a ways away.  But I've heard murmurs here and there.  Job applicants forced to hand over their logins to employers.  Very troubling.
That is actually illegal in the US. Not saying it doesn't happen, but employers can't legally require an employee to hand over their personal social media account info.  They can't even legally force an employee prospect to friend them on social media.

As for the isp bill, denying isps the right to collect data traveling over their own networks is burdening regulation, can't you all see this? Down with the regulation state, no regulations for anyone!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #119 on: March 29, 2017, 08:41:37 AM »
Quote from: DuckDodgers on March 29, 2017, 06:30:46 AM
As for the isp bill, denying isps the right to collect data traveling over their own networks is burdening regulation, can't you all see this? Down with the regulation state, no regulations for anyone!

As for the legality of murder, denying people the right to shoot people that beat them in poker is a burden to my financial situation, can't you all see this? Down with the regulation state, no regulations for anyone!
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