NASA 'lies'

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #120 on: June 12, 2016, 04:04:23 PM »
Ummm...  No.  The report was published in August, 1968.  The test took place in October, 1965.

Did you even read the report beyond what you cherry picked out of it?

Maybe you had better take another look at it to refresh your memory.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19680021275.pdf

Oh come on, you give the Not_very_Humble_Not_Much_of_a_Scientist a bit much credit.

Doesn't that report have sums and technical looking graph thingos in it? It's a bit much expecting him understand them!
I think that it's a bit much expecting him to read enough of the report to figure out that the data that he's referring to was collected almost 3 years earlier.

Remember papa Legba is his hero and he considers him a great scholar. So that should let you know what you are dealing with.

Humble seems like a nice enough person, just misguided, uneducated or both.

Thanks, man. There is quite a company here - what a place! I like reading many folks, you, for instance, or Papa Legba, or Kami, or Sir Richard... It is not just highly entertaining, but very practical, too. For example, when I met "The Original & Genuine Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce", aged 18 months and prepared by appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, I instantly remembered Sir Richard's so celebrated lamb leg dinner, to which it would make such a great supplement. Thus, there was no question to buy it or not, and I must say, excellent sauce, I'm really enjoying it now.

To enjoy the style, as for me, it does not matter if somebody's a RE'er or a FE'er. A true talent and virtue are the most important traits. For these prevail, albeit the views might change.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #121 on: June 12, 2016, 04:27:08 PM »
At what time? Dear markjo, buddy, the data were processed and the report was finished in 1968. In August. How they could work on the heat shield material without knowing the results? How the Apollo module could re-enter at 11 km/s in 1967, if they did not even have the report on the temperatures at 3 km/s before August 1968?
So you're saying that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?

I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #122 on: June 13, 2016, 01:56:33 PM »
At what time? Dear markjo, buddy, the data were processed and the report was finished in 1968. In August. How they could work on the heat shield material without knowing the results? How the Apollo module could re-enter at 11 km/s in 1967, if they did not even have the report on the temperatures at 3 km/s before August 1968?
So you're saying that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?

I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work.

Dear markjo, my friend,

I was about to ask you again if you're all right, but have just remembered that jroa so clearly explained that here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66925.msg1788782#msg1788782 .

Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?

 ::)

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #123 on: June 13, 2016, 03:14:08 PM »
Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?
Yes, I read that the experiment occurred in October of 1965. 

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
I mean that the people who conducted the experiment had access to the raw data almost immediately and were able to use that data to improve the heat shield shortly afterwards.

Don't forget that they called it the space race for a reason.  A lot of people were working at a breakneck pace in order to meet the late president Kennedy's goal of landing a man on moon by the end of the decade.  There is no way that the heat shield guys would have waited 2 years just to get the formal report so that they continue their work.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #124 on: June 13, 2016, 06:07:45 PM »
Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?
Yes, I read that the experiment occurred in October of 1965. 

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
I mean that the people who conducted the experiment had access to the raw data almost immediately and were able to use that data to improve the heat shield shortly afterwards.

Don't forget that they called it the space race for a reason.  A lot of people were working at a breakneck pace in order to meet the late president Kennedy's goal of landing a man on moon by the end of the decade.  There is no way that the heat shield guys would have waited 2 years just to get the formal report so that they continue their work.

Well, the document itself does not seem to support your hypothesis. It does not explain the reason(s) for the delay, as if it was perfectly normal for them. Remember, they spent about 3 months just to attach the title page with that nice NASA logo. Comparing to that, a sloth looks much like a cheetah.
 ;D
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #125 on: June 13, 2016, 07:32:54 PM »
Dear markjo, my friend,

I was about to ask you again if you're all right, but have just remembered that jroa so clearly explained that here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66925.msg1788782#msg1788782 .

Can't you stop this stupid condescending attitude?

You are just so concerned with everybody's welfare.
I've never seen a more smug[1] hypocritical poster here!

Do you really think that 51 or so years ago NASA was publishing stuff primarily for your benefit.
Not likely! They would have had access to their own data long before it was released to the public.
Also, did every detail of tests get published? I have no idea, and neither do you.

Of course, your attitude to everything concerned with you nemesis NASA is,
"Guilty until proven innocent", by prosecutor, defense attorney, witnesses, judge and jury, the one and only completely unbiased NASAphobic_Humble_Scientist.
  ;D Yes, real fair trial NASA gets around here!  ;D

Of course, had I but known Humble_Scientist was going to audit all this data 51 years later, I could have warned them, but since I had never met anyone like the Humble_Scientist, I could hardly foresee it, pity!

PS: The Globe was decided on by reasonable people some two millenia before NASA, and even the rotating earth hundreds of years before NASA (yes, that's a bit harder to prove!) so blaming NASA is really a case of
"closing the cage after the bird's flown away!"
NASA just went with the widely accepted ideas and convincingly proved them correct. I do not accept that NASA ever had any intention of "proving the earth a Globe", everyone knew that!


[1] Mind you your partner in crime Papa Legba might beat on this, and your language is a bit more moderate.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #126 on: June 13, 2016, 07:53:34 PM »
Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?
Yes, I read that the experiment occurred in October of 1965. 

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
I mean that the people who conducted the experiment had access to the raw data almost immediately and were able to use that data to improve the heat shield shortly afterwards.

Don't forget that they called it the space race for a reason.  A lot of people were working at a breakneck pace in order to meet the late president Kennedy's goal of landing a man on moon by the end of the decade.  There is no way that the heat shield guys would have waited 2 years just to get the formal report so that they continue their work.

Well, the document itself does not seem to support your hypothesis. It does not explain the reason(s) for the delay, as if it was perfectly normal for them. Remember, they spent about 3 months just to attach the title page with that nice NASA logo. Comparing to that, a sloth looks much like a cheetah.
 ;D
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never had a scientific paper published or are even familiar with the process of, let alone the reason for, having one published.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #127 on: June 14, 2016, 02:37:13 PM »
Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?
Yes, I read that the experiment occurred in October of 1965. 

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
I mean that the people who conducted the experiment had access to the raw data almost immediately and were able to use that data to improve the heat shield shortly afterwards.

Don't forget that they called it the space race for a reason.  A lot of people were working at a breakneck pace in order to meet the late president Kennedy's goal of landing a man on moon by the end of the decade.  There is no way that the heat shield guys would have waited 2 years just to get the formal report so that they continue their work.

Well, the document itself does not seem to support your hypothesis. It does not explain the reason(s) for the delay, as if it was perfectly normal for them. Remember, they spent about 3 months just to attach the title page with that nice NASA logo. Comparing to that, a sloth looks much like a cheetah.
 ;D
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never had a scientific paper published or are even familiar with the process of, let alone the reason for, having one published.

Holey shpazeship! Yet another guess of you, dear markjo, and you're wrong again...
 :P

What's wrong with you, man?
 ::)

Are you sure you're posting in the right topic?
 ;D

On the right forum?
 ;D ;D

At the right computer?
 ;D ;D ;D

Have you finally figured out how to turn it on?
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2016, 02:47:46 PM »
Markjo's currently going through the grieving process due to the loss of his precious shpayze-rokkitz...

The 1st stage is, of course, Denial.

I would suggest you give him a break, but as it is my personal experience that you should never, under any circumstance, miss a chance to kick a psychopath when he's down, then please do carry on applying the boot.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2016, 03:29:56 PM »
Dear markjo, my friend,

I was about to ask you again if you're all right, but have just remembered that jroa so clearly explained that here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66925.msg1788782#msg1788782 .

Can't you stop this stupid condescending attitude?

You are just so concerned with everybody's welfare.
I've never seen a more smug[1] hypocritical poster here!

Do you really think that 51 or so years ago NASA was publishing stuff primarily for your benefit.
Not likely! They would have had access to their own data long before it was released to the public.
Also, did every detail of tests get published? I have no idea, and neither do you.

Of course, your attitude to everything concerned with you nemesis NASA is,
"Guilty until proven innocent", by prosecutor, defense attorney, witnesses, judge and jury, the one and only completely unbiased NASAphobic_Humble_Scientist.
  ;D Yes, real fair trial NASA gets around here!  ;D

Of course, had I but known Humble_Scientist was going to audit all this data 51 years later, I could have warned them, but since I had never met anyone like the Humble_Scientist, I could hardly foresee it, pity!

PS: The Globe was decided on by reasonable people some two millenia before NASA, and even the rotating earth hundreds of years before NASA (yes, that's a bit harder to prove!) so blaming NASA is really a case of
"closing the cage after the bird's flown away!"
NASA just went with the widely accepted ideas and convincingly proved them correct. I do not accept that NASA ever had any intention of "proving the earth a Globe", everyone knew that!


[1] Mind you your partner in crime Papa Legba might beat on this, and your language is a bit more moderate.

Rabinoz, my old buddy, I've never expected reading that NASA document can make you so over-excited. I remember that you almost died of excitement last fall while chatting with me. Since then, you might have noticed I do practice such a caring, cherishing and tender attitude towards you. Seriously. Do you want a proof? Right now? Just look at your left palm, and you will see that the lines on it form the letter "M". Do they?
 :P

So, let me carefully take your hand, as if you were a little child, - actually, you mentally are, - and read that NASA document together. By the way, you have such a mess in your head, and perhaps quite a few worms, too, that might be the reason for it... For example, reading NASA documents is not a crime, as you erroneously considered. It is a perfectly legal and highly entertaining activity. Also, I'm not a NASAphobic. I can assure you, that "NASA Technical Note NASA TN D-4713" is indeed an interesting and well-prepared document. Let's start, this is the link most kindly provided by our dearest friend markjo:

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19680021275.pdf

First of all, what is the "technical note"? NASA so kindly explain that, on the last page of the document:

"TECHNICAL REPORTS: Scientific and technical information considered important, complete, and a lasting contribution to existing knowledge.

TECHNICAL NOTES:  Information less broad in scope but nevertheless of importance as a contribution to existing knowledge."


As you can see, a technical note is indeed a very important document, next to only a technical report. It contributes to existing knowledge! Isn't it amazing?
 8)

Thus, a technical note dated, for example, "August 1968" contributed to existing knowledge that NASA had before. This is the bleeding edge of what NASA knows, as of August 1968. Agreed? Now, dear rabinoz, could you please have a look at the first page of the document? At the bottom of the page, to the right? What date do you see? Isn't it "August 1968"? What a pleasant surprise!

So, "NASA Technical Note NASA TN D-4713" contains the last information on the topic that NASA had in August 1968. Is it clear? I do hope so.

Is it possible that NASA published this valuable note and, at the same time, was hiding some results? Of course, not. Please have a look at the last page, again, and read:

"The aeronautical and space activities of the United States shall be conducted so as to contribute . . . to the expansion of human knowledge of phenomena in the atmosphere and space. The Administration shall provide for the widest practicable and appropriate dissemination of information concerning its activities and the results thereof."
- National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958


Therefore, contrary to what your erroneous beliefs, NASA does provide the widest etc. information about its activities and the results. They do not hide anything. 'Cause they want to expand human knowledge, ya know. Are you a human? Then this is your knowledge, - expand it. Yes, yes, yes, you can read it, it is not a crime.

So, read it, pal. Read the "NASA Technical Note NASA TN D-4713", please.

Is it only for my own benefit? - yet another false persuasion of yours. No, of course. It is for the benefit of all of us. 'Cause they want us to know.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2016, 03:37:44 PM »
Look, man. First you provided the link to the publication and now you're asking me if I am saying:

"that the people who performed the experiment and analyzed the data had to wait over 2 years to get the formal report of their own experiment?"

Can't you read the publication yourself?
Yes, I read that the experiment occurred in October of 1965. 

"I think that it's far more likely that they knew the preliminary results within a few days or weeks and used those results in their ongoing work."

Holey shpazeship! What do you mean by that? The NASA technical note was fake or they were hiding their knowledge?
 ;D
I mean that the people who conducted the experiment had access to the raw data almost immediately and were able to use that data to improve the heat shield shortly afterwards.

Don't forget that they called it the space race for a reason.  A lot of people were working at a breakneck pace in order to meet the late president Kennedy's goal of landing a man on moon by the end of the decade.  There is no way that the heat shield guys would have waited 2 years just to get the formal report so that they continue their work.

Well, the document itself does not seem to support your hypothesis. It does not explain the reason(s) for the delay, as if it was perfectly normal for them. Remember, they spent about 3 months just to attach the title page with that nice NASA logo. Comparing to that, a sloth looks much like a cheetah.
 ;D
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never had a scientific paper published or are even familiar with the process of, let alone the reason for, having one published.

Holey shpazeship! Yet another guess of you, dear markjo, and you're wrong again...

Then explain this passage at the bottom of the second page means:
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For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information
Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #131 on: June 14, 2016, 03:46:03 PM »

Holey shpazeship! Yet another guess of you, dear markjo, and you're wrong again...

Then explain this passage at the bottom of the second page means:
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For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information
Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00

IMHO it means:

"For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00"

Why?
"It is not necessary that hypotheses should be true, or even probable; it is sufficient that they lead to results of calculation which agree with calculation".
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #132 on: June 14, 2016, 04:03:33 PM »

Holey shpazeship! Yet another guess of you, dear markjo, and you're wrong again...

Then explain this passage at the bottom of the second page means:
Quote
For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information
Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00

IMHO it means:

"For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00"

Why?
Do you suppose that NASA is selling the report to their own scientists and engineers so that they can do their jobs?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #133 on: June 14, 2016, 04:18:30 PM »

Holey shpazeship! Yet another guess of you, dear markjo, and you're wrong again...

Then explain this passage at the bottom of the second page means:
Quote
For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information
Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00

IMHO it means:

"For sale by the Clearinghouse for Federal Scientific and Technical Information Springfield, Virginia 22151 - CFSTI price $3.00"

Why?
Do you suppose that NASA is selling the report to their own scientists and engineers so that they can do their jobs?

My dear markjo, this is not the first time you are asking me to answer as if I knew what NASA's doing. How should I know? That's disturbing... Are you all right? - oops, sorry, our dear jroa has already shed some light on that matter...
 ;D
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #134 on: June 14, 2016, 07:13:19 PM »
My dear markjo...
You really are a condescending prick, aren't you?

...this is not the first time you are asking me to answer as if I knew what NASA's doing. How should I know?
Obviously you know that NASA had to wait almost 3 years for a report to be published so that they could use their own test data, so it sounds like you know NASA's doings much better than I do.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 07:15:25 PM by markjo »
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2016, 10:18:14 PM »
You really are a condescending prick, aren't you?

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2016, 10:23:30 PM »

Markjo says it much more succinctly than I ever could in: NASA 'lies' « Reply #134 on: Today at 07:13:19 PM » .

It is just a pity the system you push simply cannot explain numerous observations we can make with our eyes, let alone all the results of astronomy, surveying and science in general.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #137 on: June 14, 2016, 10:25:23 PM »
STFU Geoff.

Plus, NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & everybody with a brain knows it...

So that's you out, Scarecrow.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #138 on: June 14, 2016, 10:31:27 PM »
STFU Geoff.

Plus, NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & everybody with a brain knows it...

So that's you out, Scarecrow.

No you're just a halfwit that doesn't understand the most simple of scientific concept.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2016, 10:33:05 PM »
STFU Geoff.

Plus, NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & everybody with a brain knows it...

So that's you out, Scarecrow.

Battle me pussy xD.

On your way might wanna get flowers for hoppy, he's in the severe burns unit, 3rd floor.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2016, 10:42:40 PM »
No idea what you're talking about.

That NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd is a well-known Fact.

Well, unless you're an idiot that is.

Toodle-pip, idiots!
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2016, 10:45:48 PM »
Everyone witness the fall of legba...
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2016, 10:56:21 PM »
Everyone witness four sock-puppet shills appear out of nowhere to chat mad shit.

NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & it's easy to prove, as they describe both forces being exerted on the same object.

Which is obviously Incorrect.
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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2016, 11:41:06 PM »
A 4 year old will tell you obviously santa clause is real...doesn't mean they are right.

The Legba vessel is taking on water. Hope you have enought life boats and didn't plan as a famous vessel "planned". Though knowing your mentality, you probably don't believe in buoyancy or surface tension. So yeah, doubt there are any life boats, just over sized doors to fit your undeserved over inflated ego.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2016, 11:50:54 PM »
Quite often on these boards it's asserted or implicated that NASA tells lies.

Does anyone have any specific, concrete examples of NASA lying? By this I mean examples either of NASA admitting to falsehood, or of there being generally and authoritatively accepted evidence that contradicts what NASA has said.

I'm not asking for conspiracy theory kind of stuff, or people's opinions. Just proper evidence. Ideally there would be citations, both for what NASA has claimed and also for the contradiction.

Simple. You see images of Earth all you see is a bunch of different balls. LOL! All of the images have to be the same! Hello, it's the Earth! You shills think the Earth can automagically change color and stuff! Come on that has to be the craziest stuff ever...


The shills are everywhere. They intercept every communication to insert ball earth propaganda. Disgusting!!

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #145 on: June 15, 2016, 12:05:42 AM »
Quite often on these boards it's asserted or implicated that NASA tells lies.

Does anyone have any specific, concrete examples of NASA lying? By this I mean examples either of NASA admitting to falsehood, or of there being generally and authoritatively accepted evidence that contradicts what NASA has said.

I'm not asking for conspiracy theory kind of stuff, or people's opinions. Just proper evidence. Ideally there would be citations, both for what NASA has claimed and also for the contradiction.

Simple. You see images of Earth all you see is a bunch of different balls. LOL! All of the images have to be the same! Hello, it's the Earth! You shills think the Earth can automagically change color and stuff! Come on that has to be the craziest stuff ever...



Welcome to the site, please read moar so you can ask intelligent questions.

Thanks.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #146 on: June 15, 2016, 12:13:14 AM »
Quite often on these boards it's asserted or implicated that NASA tells lies.

Does anyone have any specific, concrete examples of NASA lying? By this I mean examples either of NASA admitting to falsehood, or of there being generally and authoritatively accepted evidence that contradicts what NASA has said.

I'm not asking for conspiracy theory kind of stuff, or people's opinions. Just proper evidence. Ideally there would be citations, both for what NASA has claimed and also for the contradiction.

Simple. You see images of Earth all you see is a bunch of different balls. LOL! All of the images have to be the same! Hello, it's the Earth! You shills think the Earth can automagically change color and stuff! Come on that has to be the craziest stuff ever...



Welcome to the site, please read moar so you can ask intelligent questions.

Thanks.

Satanic shill I've been embracing the flat earth for months now I don't need that, thanks.
The shills are everywhere. They intercept every communication to insert ball earth propaganda. Disgusting!!

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disputeone

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #147 on: June 15, 2016, 12:30:44 AM »
Quite often on these boards it's asserted or implicated that NASA tells lies.

Does anyone have any specific, concrete examples of NASA lying? By this I mean examples either of NASA admitting to falsehood, or of there being generally and authoritatively accepted evidence that contradicts what NASA has said.

I'm not asking for conspiracy theory kind of stuff, or people's opinions. Just proper evidence. Ideally there would be citations, both for what NASA has claimed and also for the contradiction.

Simple. You see images of Earth all you see is a bunch of different balls. LOL! All of the images have to be the same! Hello, it's the Earth! You shills think the Earth can automagically change color and stuff! Come on that has to be the craziest stuff ever...



Welcome to the site, please read moar so you can ask intelligent questions.

Thanks.

Satanic shill I've been embracing the flat earth for months now I don't need that, thanks.

Don't need to read and ask questions?

Figures.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #148 on: June 15, 2016, 01:11:26 AM »
Plus, NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & everybody with a brain knows it...

Guess that lets you out, Papa Lima Tango.

It's interesting how those that know they've lost the plot have to fall back on foul language and misrepresentation (like you know Geoff's gone west, as it were).

Bye, bye loser. Give my regards to the rest of the "Terrible Triplets".

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Re: NASA 'lies'
« Reply #149 on: June 15, 2016, 01:22:48 AM »

NASA Lies about Newton's 3rd Law & it's easy to prove, as they describe both forces being exerted on the same object.

Provide one correct example.....
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