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Does Papa Legba understand newtons third law?

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markjo

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #600 on: June 14, 2016, 06:14:25 AM »
Says you & 50 sock-puppets on a flat earth forum...
Yes, that should be a subtle hint that maybe it really is you who is wrong.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 06:17:33 AM by markjo »
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #601 on: June 14, 2016, 06:33:31 AM »
What, that 50 fake people on a fake flat earth forum think I don't understand N3?

Oh, I am devastated by their fake opinion!

But lol at you admitting they are all sock-puppets...

Getting too old for this, loser.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #602 on: June 14, 2016, 06:36:12 AM »
So off you go, shills; tell Newton & Kelvin again just how wrong they were!

So you posted Newton's 3rd Law again and again and again, yet you're thinking that Newton is wrong? Make up your mind, troll!

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #603 on: June 14, 2016, 06:41:24 AM »
Says you & 50 sock-puppets on a flat earth forum...
Yes, that should be a subtle hint that maybe it really is you who is wrong.

Subtle hint? More like obvious conclusion.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #604 on: June 14, 2016, 06:58:26 AM »
I said you're the ones who think Newton is wrong you double-shitposting time-wasting psycho.

And you do, because you think an object can exert both forces required by N3 on itself & still produce motion.

Which is the same as claiming you could lift yourself off the ground by pulling on your bootstraps.

Which is mad bullshit.

Plus lol at you agreeing with me that you're all sock-puppets too...

Dipshit.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #605 on: June 14, 2016, 07:00:51 AM »
What, that 50 fake people on a fake flat earth forum think I don't understand N3?
Well, it isn't just us on the forum. 

It's pretty much the entire aerospace industry and every physics teacher in the world that thinks that you don't understand N3.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #606 on: June 14, 2016, 07:03:08 AM »
Friction from the ground.

Since inertia actually exists. The guy will start the movement of his legs with a force. To stop them he needs to provide another force.

If the guy was in the box which sat on a skateboard and he threw out a medicine ball, he would move.
This is where mass against atmosphere creates the force that you people believe is not evident. You people simply believe that mass alone can create a force against another mass, without the intervention of an atmosphere. It baffles me as to why people believe this utter nonsense.

Buoyancy should give you a massive massive clue as to how mass and atmosphere work with and against each other. The more mass, the greater displacement. Think about it.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #607 on: June 14, 2016, 07:21:01 AM »
Friction from the ground.

Since inertia actually exists. The guy will start the movement of his legs with a force. To stop them he needs to provide another force.

If the guy was in the box which sat on a skateboard and he threw out a medicine ball, he would move.
This is where mass against atmosphere creates the force that you people believe is not evident. You people simply believe that mass alone can create a force against another mass, without the intervention of an atmosphere. It baffles me as to why people believe this utter nonsense.

Buoyancy should give you a massive massive clue as to how mass and atmosphere work with and against each other. The more mass, the greater displacement. Think about it.
1. You still can't explain how a force is transferred.
2. Ever swing on a swing set?
3. Displacement is from volume, not mass.
4.  Lulz
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #608 on: June 14, 2016, 07:29:35 AM »
Friction from the ground.

Since inertia actually exists. The guy will start the movement of his legs with a force. To stop them he needs to provide another force.

If the guy was in the box which sat on a skateboard and he threw out a medicine ball, he would move.
This is where mass against atmosphere creates the force that you people believe is not evident. You people simply believe that mass alone can create a force against another mass, without the intervention of an atmosphere. It baffles me as to why people believe this utter nonsense.

Buoyancy should give you a massive massive clue as to how mass and atmosphere work with and against each other. The more mass, the greater displacement. Think about it.
1. You still can't explain how a force is transferred.
2. Ever swing on a swing set?
3. Displacement is from volume, not mass.
4.  Lulz
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

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sokarul

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #609 on: June 14, 2016, 07:45:07 AM »
And you ran away while pissing your pants.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #610 on: June 14, 2016, 07:50:14 AM »
STFU sokarul.

Anyhoo, if every physics teacher in the world thinks I don't understand N3, how come I'm reading an article by one right now that describes NASA's interpretation of N3 as 'wrong'?

Everybody knows they're full of shit, you tards, & it's not even hard to find.

Google breaks for shills when confronted with their bullshit though, so carry on spamming your fake poll with the fake votes you already admitted it consists of...

Tards.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #611 on: June 14, 2016, 07:50:58 AM »
And you ran away while pissing your pants.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #612 on: June 14, 2016, 07:53:25 AM »
I said you're the ones who think Newton is wrong you double-shitposting time-wasting psycho.

And you do, because you think an object can exert both forces required by N3 on itself & still produce motion.

Which is the same as claiming you could lift yourself off the ground by pulling on your bootstraps.

Which is mad bullshit.

Plus lol at you agreeing with me that you're all sock-puppets too...

Dipshit.

I think the issue is that Papa doesn't understand how the fuel in a rocket can be considered to be a separate object. "BUT teh feul iz in teh rokot, hau kan it bi anuder objekt??? I dont uderstad, DERE MUS BE A CONSPRCY!!!"
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #613 on: June 14, 2016, 07:54:58 AM »
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

If we had a nickle for every time you have said this.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #614 on: June 14, 2016, 07:59:44 AM »
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

If we had a nickle for every time you have said this.
If I had a penny for every time you pipe up with nothing to say.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #615 on: June 14, 2016, 08:06:08 AM »
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

If we had a nickle for every time you have said this.
If I had a penny for every time you pipe up with nothing to say.
I end up not saying much to you for reasons obvious to everyone except you and your bestie, Papa Legba. 
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #616 on: June 14, 2016, 08:07:37 AM »
Friction from the ground.

Since inertia actually exists. The guy will start the movement of his legs with a force. To stop them he needs to provide another force.

If the guy was in the box which sat on a skateboard and he threw out a medicine ball, he would move.
This is where mass against atmosphere creates the force that you people believe is not evident. You people simply believe that mass alone can create a force against another mass, without the intervention of an atmosphere. It baffles me as to why people believe this utter nonsense.

Buoyancy should give you a massive massive clue as to how mass and atmosphere work with and against each other. The more mass, the greater displacement. Think about it.
1. You still can't explain how a force is transferred.
2. Ever swing on a swing set?
3. Displacement is from volume, not mass.
4.  Lulz
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

So when you are on a skateboard and push against the wall you move away by displacing air ? :D you know you can push against a mass whether it is fixed or not, you could push against a medicine ball when you throw it.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #617 on: June 14, 2016, 08:11:08 AM »
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

If we had a nickle for every time you have said this.
If I had a penny for every time you pipe up with nothing to say.
I end up not saying much to you for reasons obvious to everyone except you and your bestie, Papa Legba.
Keep it that way and save yourself precious  internet minutes.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #618 on: June 14, 2016, 08:15:46 AM »
I have no more wish to try and help you. You carry on with your ways.

If we had a nickle for every time you have said this.
If I had a penny for every time you pipe up with nothing to say.
I end up not saying much to you for reasons obvious to everyone except you and your bestie, Papa Legba.
Keep it that way and save yourself precious  internet minutes.

I didn't want you to be alone in wasting people's time.  This is an errand of mercy.  If you don't want my charity, then fine.  Be that way.
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sceptimatic

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #619 on: June 14, 2016, 08:22:53 AM »

So when you are on a skateboard and push against the wall you move away by displacing air ? :D
Yep, you move away by displacing air. The reason you can't grasp that is because you're not thinking on the right lines.

Here's a tip. Arms bent and energy applied to the wall, requires a displacement of air, just for that to happen. Once that has happened, then all of the mass has been pushed against the atmosphere, compressing it and causing it to come back around the mass to create equal and opposite reaction to action.

you know you can push against a mass whether it is fixed or not, you could push against a medicine ball when you throw it.
Yep but the only way you can push against a medicine ball and receive a reactionary force back from it, is either when that medicine ball is under atmospheric clamping on the ground which creates a friction on that ground as well as against atmosphere, or your own energy holds that mass of medicine ball, up. You have displaced the amount of atmosphere that the medicine ball repels from its mass and that's  the pressure of atmosphere bearing down onto your ball that you have to resist with your energy.

By throwing this medicine ball horizontally, you will have to move it from one filled atmospheric place to another, then another and another, depending on how much energy you put into the throw. All that atmosphere reacts against your ball until you release it - or to put it simpler - when your energy of push does not count anymore.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #620 on: June 14, 2016, 08:28:17 AM »

So when you are on a skateboard and push against the wall you move away by displacing air ? :D
Yep, you move away by displacing air. The reason you can't grasp that is because you're not thinking on the right lines.

Here's a tip. Arms bent and energy applied to the wall, requires a displacement of air, just for that to happen. Once that has happened, then all of the mass has been pushed against the atmosphere, compressing it and causing it to come back around the mass to create equal and opposite reaction to action.

you know you can push against a mass whether it is fixed or not, you could push against a medicine ball when you throw it.
Yep but the only way you can push against a medicine ball and receive a reactionary force back from it, is either when that medicine ball is under atmospheric clamping on the ground which creates a friction on that ground as well as against atmosphere, or your own energy holds that mass of medicine ball, up. You have displaced the amount of atmosphere that the medicine ball repels from its mass and that's  the pressure of atmosphere bearing down onto your ball that you have to resist with your energy.

By throwing this medicine ball horizontally, you will have to move it from one filled atmospheric place to another, then another and another, depending on how much energy you put into the throw. All that atmosphere reacts against your ball until you release it - or to put it simpler - when your energy of push does not count anymore.

Oh wow, you are perfectly comfortable wasting other people's time by yourself.  Sorry I condescended in thinking you would be lonely.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #621 on: June 14, 2016, 08:40:08 AM »
And you ran away while pissing your pants.
I can't help those who are not capable of being helped. One day when you grow up, have a think about what's been told to you.
I understand you have no rebuttal.
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #622 on: June 14, 2016, 08:42:55 AM »
And you ran away while pissing your pants.
I can't help those who are not capable of being helped. One day when you grow up, have a think about what's been told to you.
I understand you have no rebuttal.
I understand you are totally devoid of common sense and logic and cannot provide anything remotely legitimate.

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sokarul

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #623 on: June 14, 2016, 08:46:35 AM »
Does a child on a swing push off the air?

How does a rocket engine push off the atmosphere?
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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #624 on: June 14, 2016, 09:04:37 AM »
Does a child on a swing push off the air?
A child on a swing will use feet to push the swing and him/her self against the air. Once in motion, it's down to the movement of the body to compress air faster than the swing is moving. This is achieved by arching the back and kicking the legs whilst using the chain/rope of the swing as leverage.

How does a rocket engine push off the atmosphere?
The same way you would push away water when you're swimming. The only difference is in the friction.
All a rocket does is super heat fuel by mixing it with oxygen under pressure, which creates a massive void in the thrusting burning fuel which expands into the atmosphere, pushing it away. The atmosphere equally responds by squeezing right back, creating the necessary push and squeeze needed to set the rocket in motion. Like a big springboard or a spring that just keeps on boing boing-ing until there's no more pressure applied to it. Or to put it bluntly - until the rocket fuel is spent.

Careful what you come back with, T-bag.

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aisantaros

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #625 on: June 14, 2016, 09:24:10 AM »
Ok I rest my case, so no swinging in thin air/vacuum  ? :D  8)

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #626 on: June 14, 2016, 09:29:36 AM »
Does a child on a swing push off the air?
A child on a swing will use feet to push the swing and him/her self against the air. Once in motion, it's down to the movement of the body to compress air faster than the swing is moving. This is achieved by arching the back and kicking the legs whilst using the chain/rope of the swing as leverage.

How does a rocket engine push off the atmosphere?
The same way you would push away water when you're swimming. The only difference is in the friction.
All a rocket does is super heat fuel by mixing it with oxygen under pressure, which creates a massive void in the thrusting burning fuel which expands into the atmosphere, pushing it away. The atmosphere equally responds by squeezing right back, creating the necessary push and squeeze needed to set the rocket in motion. Like a big springboard or a spring that just keeps on boing boing-ing until there's no more pressure applied to it. Or to put it bluntly - until the rocket fuel is spent.

Careful what you come back with, T-bag.

Holy shit! Are you serious??

My son is an AIR PUMP now!! Who'd have thunk it?!?

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #627 on: June 14, 2016, 09:31:38 AM »
Does a child on a swing push off the air?
A child on a swing will use feet to push the swing and him/her self against the air. Once in motion, it's down to the movement of the body to compress air faster than the swing is moving. This is achieved by arching the back and kicking the legs whilst using the chain/rope of the swing as leverage.
I call bullshit on this one.
Theother one is wrong too, but this has been elaborated many, many times.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #628 on: June 14, 2016, 10:25:49 AM »
Ok I rest my case, so no swinging in thin air/vacuum  ? :D  8)
Correct, no swinging.

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Re: Newtons third law
« Reply #629 on: June 14, 2016, 10:27:11 AM »
Does a child on a swing push off the air?
A child on a swing will use feet to push the swing and him/her self against the air. Once in motion, it's down to the movement of the body to compress air faster than the swing is moving. This is achieved by arching the back and kicking the legs whilst using the chain/rope of the swing as leverage.

How does a rocket engine push off the atmosphere?
The same way you would push away water when you're swimming. The only difference is in the friction.
All a rocket does is super heat fuel by mixing it with oxygen under pressure, which creates a massive void in the thrusting burning fuel which expands into the atmosphere, pushing it away. The atmosphere equally responds by squeezing right back, creating the necessary push and squeeze needed to set the rocket in motion. Like a big springboard or a spring that just keeps on boing boing-ing until there's no more pressure applied to it. Or to put it bluntly - until the rocket fuel is spent.

Careful what you come back with, T-bag.

Holy shit! Are you serious??

My son is an AIR PUMP now!! Who'd have thunk it?!?
Your son is energy against atmosphere. It's the reason why he operates, as well as you and everything else that has energy.