Sydney(Australia) to Santiago(Chile): direct flight, 12hrs 30m

You "expressed disbelief" by saying he didn't.

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 05:48:27 PM

You "expressed disbelief" by saying he didn't.

Not believing in something is not the same as claiming that it is not true. 

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:39:26 PM

I'm pretty sure someone who was involved enough in the Flat Earth Society to have achieved the rank of "Flat Earth Editor" would have a general idea of what their community's theories are.

I'll ask one more time: if the earth is not round and is not a shape with a semblance to a circle, then what is it?

EDIT: forgot a word

That guy was also banned for a year and three months for allegedly orchestrating an attack on this site.  Perhaps you have more credible references?

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:51:27 PM

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 05:48:27 PM

You "expressed disbelief" by saying he didn't.

Not believing in something is not the same as claiming that it is not true. 

You said he didn't take the flight. That is not the same thing as saying "I don't believe you". You made the claim he didn't take the flight.

#1
"Superman is real"
"Superman is not real."

#2
"Superman is real"
"Prove it"


See the difference?

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:43:55 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:39:26 PM

I'm pretty sure someone who was involved enough in the Flat Earth Society to have achieved the rank of "Flat Earth Editor" would have a general idea of what their community's theories are.

I'll ask one more time: if the earth is not round and is not a shape with a semblance to a circle, then what is it?

EDIT: forgot a word

That guy was also banned for a year and three months for allegedly orchestrating an attack on this site.  Perhaps you have more credible references?

What I gather from his posts is that he is now a maintainer/builder of tfes.org, which seems to be a sizable FE community. I'd say he's credible.

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:55:09 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:43:55 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:39:26 PM

I'm pretty sure someone who was involved enough in the Flat Earth Society to have achieved the rank of "Flat Earth Editor" would have a general idea of what their community's theories are.

I'll ask one more time: if the earth is not round and is not a shape with a semblance to a circle, then what is it?

EDIT: forgot a word

That guy was also banned for a year and three months for allegedly orchestrating an attack on this site.  Perhaps you have more credible references?

What I gather from his posts is that he is now a maintainer/builder of tfes.org, which seems to be a sizable FE community. I'd say he's credible.

Really?  They have about a dozen posts per day.  That does not seem to be much of a credible site.  Perhaps you could just quote someone who has not been banned for hacking the site, nor has a tiny little website that was stolen from this one?

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:56:47 PM

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

lol, it says that the known part of the Earth is disc like, not that the whole Earth is a disc.  Have you always had a reading comprehension problem, or did this come up later in life?

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:00:50 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:55:09 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:43:55 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:39:26 PM

I'm pretty sure someone who was involved enough in the Flat Earth Society to have achieved the rank of "Flat Earth Editor" would have a general idea of what their community's theories are.

I'll ask one more time: if the earth is not round and is not a shape with a semblance to a circle, then what is it?

EDIT: forgot a word

That guy was also banned for a year and three months for allegedly orchestrating an attack on this site.  Perhaps you have more credible references?

What I gather from his posts is that he is now a maintainer/builder of tfes.org, which seems to be a sizable FE community. I'd say he's credible.

Really?  They have about a dozen posts per day.  That does not seem to be much of a credible site.  Perhaps you could just quote someone who has not been banned for hacking the site, nor has a tiny little website that was stolen from this one?

https://www.similarweb.com/website/tfes.org#overview

According to this analytics website, it had 100K visitors in January. I wouldn't call that puny.

As to the credible source, look at the board's FAQ (I seem unable to quote it). At the end, Pongo states that

"As seen in the diagrams above, the earth is in the form of a disk with the North Pole in the center and Antarctica as a wall around the edge. This is the generally accepted model among members of the society."

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:56:47 PM

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

lol, it says that the known part of the Earth is disc like, not that the whole Earth is a disc.  Have you always had a reading comprehension problem, or did this come up later in life?

He also says this is the proposed model of the Earth:

 

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 06:08:45 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:56:47 PM

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

lol, it says that the known part of the Earth is disc like, not that the whole Earth is a disc.  Have you always had a reading comprehension problem, or did this come up later in life?

He also says this is the proposed model of the Earth:

 

That picture is meant to be a representation of the layout of the Earth, not a navigational aid. 

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:11:09 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 06:08:45 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:56:47 PM

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

lol, it says that the known part of the Earth is disc like, not that the whole Earth is a disc.  Have you always had a reading comprehension problem, or did this come up later in life?

He also says this is the proposed model of the Earth:

 

That picture is meant to be a representation of the layout of the Earth, not a navigational aid. 

When did I say it was a navigational aid? And aren't we arguing as to the shape of the Earth?

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 05:54:39 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:51:27 PM

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 05:48:27 PM

You "expressed disbelief" by saying he didn't.

Not believing in something is not the same as claiming that it is not true. 

You said he didn't take the flight. That is not the same thing as saying "I don't believe you". You made the claim he didn't take the flight.

#1
"Superman is real"
"Superman is not real."

#2
"Superman is real"
"Prove it"


See the difference?

Where did I claim that he did not take the flight?  I seem to remember expressing disbelief about his supposed flight, not claiming that he did not take the flight.  Please, don't be such a retard, sokarul.

Quote from: jbd on March 04, 2016, 08:31:08 PM

But I've been on that flight and its roughly 6300 miles and takes about 11 1/2 hrs at 550 miles per hour, which is consistent both with my experience and what is published.

Where's the conspiracy with that?

I am sure you have. 

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:37:38 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:34:37 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:31:15 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:06:11 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:00:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 04:18:34 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 04:15:26 PM

Please show a verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. Also I take the quran with a grain of salt since they say you should kill the infidel.

How about when it talks about the four corners of the Earth?  In which way can you spin it to make a sphere have four corners?  This will be good.

First off you guys depict the earth as a disc so where are the four corners on that? Second the four corners are the four directions of the compass. North, south, east, and west.

First off, who claimed that it is exactly circular?  Secondly, why would the four directions have pillars and angles?  It is funny to see you squirm and make shit up to defend your religion together with your round Earth beliefs.  Please, make some more stuff up, because it is very entertaining.

"Exactly circular" is not the same as "circular period". Second, where in the KJV does it says the earth has angles? And third as far as pillars those can be where the continents are thicker than the sea. Don't claim victory too quickly next time.

So, you religious people just change the meaning of words any time that you get backed into a corner?  It could mean this, or it could mean that, even though it says this.  lol

I didnt changed anything. You have to read it in context.

Reading and interpreting something in context is a subjective thing, is it not?

If you told me that you got a speeding ticket tonight on your way home, and I said that I did not believe you did, it does not mean that I am claiming that you did not get the ticket; it simply means that I am not yet convinced that you got the ticket.  Are you starting to learn English a little better yet?

Quote from: palmerito0 on March 05, 2016, 05:56:47 PM

And for an even more reliable source, this bord's FAQ (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0) says the Earth is a disk shape.

lol, it says that the known part of the Earth is disc like, not that the whole Earth is a disc.  Have you always had a reading comprehension problem, or did this come up later in life?

What does the earth look like?
As seen in the diagrams above, the earth is in the form of a disk with the North Pole in the center and Antarctica as a wall around the edge. This is the generally accepted model among members of the society. In this model, circumnavigation is performed by moving in a great circle around the North Pole.

Flat Earth Model
The Flat Earth model is the primary model in Flat Earth theory, in which the Earth is a flat disk. Most arguments or statements having to do with the Flat Earth model should be referring to this model

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:37:38 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:34:37 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:31:15 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:06:11 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:00:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 04:18:34 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 04:15:26 PM

Please show a verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. Also I take the quran with a grain of salt since they say you should kill the infidel.

How about when it talks about the four corners of the Earth?  In which way can you spin it to make a sphere have four corners?  This will be good.

First off you guys depict the earth as a disc so where are the four corners on that? Second the four corners are the four directions of the compass. North, south, east, and west.

First off, who claimed that it is exactly circular?  Secondly, why would the four directions have pillars and angles?  It is funny to see you squirm and make shit up to defend your religion together with your round Earth beliefs.  Please, make some more stuff up, because it is very entertaining.

"Exactly circular" is not the same as "circular period". Second, where in the KJV does it says the earth has angles? And third as far as pillars those can be where the continents are thicker than the sea. Don't claim victory too quickly next time.

So, you religious people just change the meaning of words any time that you get backed into a corner?  It could mean this, or it could mean that, even though it says this.  lol

I didnt changed anything. You have to read it in context.

Reading and interpreting something in context is a subjective thing, is it not?

Not really. In fact you can get pretty sound doctrine by reading it in context. Hope you have time to watch the videos I've posted, especially the second one. It oughta answer your "proofs" of the Bible teaching that the earth is flat.

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 06:23:40 PM

If you told me that you got a speeding ticket tonight on your way home, and I said that I did not believe you did, it does not mean that I am claiming that you did not get the ticket; it simply means that I am not yet convinced that you got the ticket.  Are you starting to learn English a little better yet?

To use your own example what you said is more like "I said you did not",  instead of "I said that I did not believe you did".

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 06:36:50 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:37:38 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:34:37 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:31:15 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 05:06:11 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 05:00:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 05, 2016, 04:18:34 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 05, 2016, 04:15:26 PM

Please show a verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. Also I take the quran with a grain of salt since they say you should kill the infidel.

How about when it talks about the four corners of the Earth?  In which way can you spin it to make a sphere have four corners?  This will be good.

First off you guys depict the earth as a disc so where are the four corners on that? Second the four corners are the four directions of the compass. North, south, east, and west.

First off, who claimed that it is exactly circular?  Secondly, why would the four directions have pillars and angles?  It is funny to see you squirm and make shit up to defend your religion together with your round Earth beliefs.  Please, make some more stuff up, because it is very entertaining.

"Exactly circular" is not the same as "circular period". Second, where in the KJV does it says the earth has angles? And third as far as pillars those can be where the continents are thicker than the sea. Don't claim victory too quickly next time.

So, you religious people just change the meaning of words any time that you get backed into a corner?  It could mean this, or it could mean that, even though it says this.  lol

I didnt changed anything. You have to read it in context.

Reading and interpreting something in context is a subjective thing, is it not?

Not really. In fact you can get pretty sound doctrine by reading it in context. Hope you have time to watch the videos I've posted, especially the second one. It oughta answer your "proofs" of the Bible teaching that the earth is flat.

Different people interpret the passages of the Bible in different ways.  Everyone thinks that their interpretation is right, but they can't all be right.  That means that interpretation is a subjective thing.

True but some things are just obvious on its face.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on March 06, 2016, 01:24:36 PM

True but some things are just obvious on its face.

Like the Earth being round amirite? 

Wait, can a FE'er please explain if a flight from Santiago to Sydney is possible in 12 hours?  Reviewing the FE model you would be flying virtually over North America and the arctic to get there.  Seems pretty obvious that a FE model does not function.

Quote from: cikljamas on March 05, 2016, 03:44:15 PM

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 11:36:35 AM

We destroyed you many times months ago. Why did you come back?

...lol...lol...lol...Destroy this, funny boy : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

There is more evidence to around earth in this video then that of a flat Earth. The sun coming up over the Horizon.

“Modern Mechanics describes how on a Flat Earth the sun can be computed to 3,000 miles via triangulation, whereas on a globe earth those same angles can calculate the sun to nearly 93 million miles away -- “ from https://wiki.tfes.org/Distance_to_the_Sun

12:03 where is all that light coming from sun is to far a way to see, they call this twilight on a flat Earth it's not possible.

How is it even possible for the Sun 3000 Miles up appear to be behind the OAHU that is not even a mile high on the flat earth, this is impossible.

17:19 Does the sun look to be 3000 miles above OAHU , see the light under the clouds all so.
17:51 sun getting higher in the sky not just closer as it would be doing on a flat earth.

18:42 sun below the Horizon, not just further away it supposed to be 3000 miles high at OAHU just under a mile high, what is wrong with this picture, on a rounders it is understandable, on a flat Earth it's impossible!

20:14 Once again the sun 3000 miles up behind OAHU 0.8068182 miles up, give me a brake, really.
Once again it is people seeing something they can't understand even when it is in plain sight.

Quote from: MouseWalker on March 05, 2016, 06:47:24 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on March 05, 2016, 03:44:15 PM

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 11:36:35 AM

We destroyed you many times months ago. Why did you come back?

...lol...lol...lol...Destroy this, funny boy : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Other than some mirage distortion, the sun looked the same size and appeared to be setting below the horizon.  It would have to be 30,000 miles away just to get within 6 degrees of the horizon.  If it's 32 miles across, it would very small at that distance.

There is more evidence to around earth in this video then that of a flat Earth. The sun coming up over the Horizon.

“Modern Mechanics describes how on a Flat Earth the sun can be computed to 3,000 miles via triangulation, whereas on a globe earth those same angles can calculate the sun to nearly 93 million miles away -- “ from https://wiki.tfes.org/Distance_to_the_Sun

12:03 where is all that light coming from sun is to far a way to see, they call this twilight on a flat Earth it's not possible.

How is it even possible for the Sun 3000 Miles up appear to be behind the OAHU that is not even a mile high on the flat earth, this is impossible.

17:19 Does the sun look to be 3000 miles above OAHU , see the light under the clouds all so.
17:51 sun getting higher in the sky not just closer as it would be doing on a flat earth.

18:42 sun below the Horizon, not just further away it supposed to be 3000 miles high at OAHU just under a mile high, what is wrong with this picture, on a rounders it is understandable, on a flat Earth it's impossible!

20:14 Once again the sun 3000 miles up behind OAHU 0.8068182 miles up, give me a brake, really.
Once again it is people seeing something they can't understand even when it is in plain sight.

FLAT EARTH - Into the Distance : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

This is just one among many similar comments below this video :

Larry Washom3 months ago
This is the most wonderful video that shows proof the sun is NOT setting. This is the BE-ALL and END-ALL. We need more videos EXACTLY like this. Thank you. I will be also posting this video to my Facebook page if that is ok. Fair Use.

Quote from: cikljamas on March 07, 2016, 08:45:46 AM

Quote from: MouseWalker on March 05, 2016, 06:47:24 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on March 05, 2016, 03:44:15 PM

Quote from: sokarul on March 05, 2016, 11:36:35 AM

We destroyed you many times months ago. Why did you come back?

...lol...lol...lol...Destroy this, funny boy : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Other than some mirage distortion, the sun looked the same size and appeared to be setting below the horizon.  It would have to be 30,000 miles away just to get within 6 degrees of the horizon.  If it's 32 miles across, it would very small at that distance.

There is more evidence to around earth in this video then that of a flat Earth. The sun coming up over the Horizon.

“Modern Mechanics describes how on a Flat Earth the sun can be computed to 3,000 miles via triangulation, whereas on a globe earth those same angles can calculate the sun to nearly 93 million miles away -- “ from https://wiki.tfes.org/Distance_to_the_Sun

12:03 where is all that light coming from sun is to far a way to see, they call this twilight on a flat Earth it's not possible.

How is it even possible for the Sun 3000 Miles up appear to be behind the OAHU that is not even a mile high on the flat earth, this is impossible.

17:19 Does the sun look to be 3000 miles above OAHU , see the light under the clouds all so.
17:51 sun getting higher in the sky not just closer as it would be doing on a flat earth.

18:42 sun below the Horizon, not just further away it supposed to be 3000 miles high at OAHU just under a mile high, what is wrong with this picture, on a rounders it is understandable, on a flat Earth it's impossible!

20:14 Once again the sun 3000 miles up behind OAHU 0.8068182 miles up, give me a brake, really.
Once again it is people seeing something they can't understand even when it is in plain sight.

FLAT EARTH - Into the Distance : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

This is just one among many similar comments below this video :

Larry Washom3 months ago
This is the most wonderful video that shows proof the sun is NOT setting. This is the BE-ALL and END-ALL. We need more videos EXACTLY like this. Thank you. I will be also posting this video to my Facebook page if that is ok. Fair Use.