I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

? Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:09:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

That is most definitely not an offer to pay up! Do you have trouble with the English language?

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:27:49 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:09:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

That is most definitely not an offer to pay up! Do you have trouble with the English language?

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Only real Winners will be paid. Not trolls going around lying about having won.

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:35:36 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:27:49 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:09:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

That is most definitely not an offer to pay up! Do you have trouble with the English language?

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Only real Winners will be paid. Not trolls going around lying about having won.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 10:16:33 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:35:36 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:27:49 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:09:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

That is most definitely not an offer to pay up! Do you have trouble with the English language?

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Only real Winners will be paid. Not trolls going around lying about having won.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

What dues? To whom? Why? You sound like a shill.

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 10:26:17 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 10:16:33 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:35:36 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:27:49 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:09:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM

Quote from: Boots on August 09, 2017, 09:04:17 PM

Incorrect.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Where to? Noone has even provided any bank details.

Are you offering to pay up?

Since 2010! Just send me your winning proposal!

That is most definitely not an offer to pay up! Do you have trouble with the English language?

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

Only real Winners will be paid. Not trolls going around lying about having won.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

What dues? To whom? Why? You sound like a shill.

The real winners, whom you have not paid.

This thread will be "activated" when you've paid your dues.

But noone has shown how to crush a structure A by dropping top C on it and made a correct application. Study the requirements at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm before publishing pictures of houses being destroyed by weakening A and no C crushing nothing.

WRONG.

GOOGLE VERINAGE DEMOLITION.
it wouldn't work on wtc 1 or 2 but it satisfies your requirements, watch the vid and pay me.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 11:48:49 AM

Noone has won my Challenge so far.

Incorrect.

You owe me €1 000 000 remember.

Quote from: Heiwa

""Show how any building can collapse from the top down.""

Sure no chance of a verinage demo working on wtc 1 and 2  because of the core structure and wtc 7 was demonstrably visually not a verinage demolition.



http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/demolition-using-the-verinage-technique/82601161/

Also granted the collapse initiation of wtc 1 and 2 was a verinage type. They cut beams (pic related) and possibly used hydraulics. However as you correctly state this would not cause the whole collapse of either wtc 1 or 2.

Quote from: Heiwa

""Show how any building can collapse from the top down.""

Let me know how you will transfer the funds. You are the worst type of disinfo.

>muh cgi.

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Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 08:59:25 PM

But noone has shown how to crush a structure A by dropping top C on it and made a correct application. Study the requirements at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm before publishing pictures of houses being destroyed by weakening A and no C crushing nothing.

WRONG.

GOOGLE VERINAGE DEMOLITION.
it wouldn't work on wtc 1 or 2 but it satisfies your requirements, watch the vid and pay me.

Quote from: disputeone on August 09, 2017, 05:35:28 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2017, 11:48:49 AM

Noone has won my Challenge so far.

Incorrect.

You owe me €1 000 000 remember.

Quote from: Heiwa

""Show how any building can collapse from the top down.""

Sure no chance of a verinage demo working on wtc 1 and 2  because of the core structure and wtc 7 was demonstrably visually not a verinage demolition.



http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/demolition-using-the-verinage-technique/82601161/

Also granted the collapse initiation of wtc 1 and 2 was a verinage type. They cut beams (pic related) and possibly used hydraulics. However as you correctly state this would not cause the whole collapse of either wtc 1 or 2.

Quote from: Heiwa

""Show how any building can collapse from the top down.""

Let me know how you will transfer the funds. You are the worst type of disinfo.

>muh cgi.

016 016
725546019

Sorry, vérinage does not fullfill the requirements of my Challenge:

Le vérinage est un procédé français de démolition contrôlée sans recours à des explosifs, inventé et breveté en 1997 par l'entrepreneur alsacien Dominique Ferrari. La technique consiste à installer d'énormes vérins à un seul étage situé au 2/3 de la hauteur du bâtiment. Ces vérins exercent une poussée horizontale ou oblique de plusieurs centaines de tonnes sur des colonnes. L'affaiblissement d'un seul étage suffit à mettre en mouvement les étages supérieurs. La gravité termine le travail en provoquant l'effondrement de l'ensemble du bâtiment. Cette méthode est particulièrement adaptée aux bâtiments confinés dans des zones urbaines denses, car elle permet de réduire le périmètre de sécurité.

http://lestheoriesducomplot.blogspot.fr/2009/11/le-verinage-une-technique-douce-de.html

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

Please do not suggest that I am wrong.

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Markjo - you are a contemtible silly fool which explains that you always ask stupid questions interrupting an intelligent conversation. A house is not supported by floors. The floors are only to walk or dance on. Please do not ask me to provide evidence what a floor is.

I doubt you could manage it.

I doubt you could manage it.

OK - a floor is the lower, normally horizontal surface of a room, part on which one walks. Do not confuse a floor with a wall that is a vertical structure forming the sides of the room, etc, etc, etc. You do not walk on walls unless you are a fly or similar.

You are not very bright, which explains why you cannot win my Challenge.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Actually, only one floor at a time needs to be collected on the way down.

A floor is tons of concrete and only connected to the central column strong enough to support it's own weight (plus some margin). And held there on it's own, independent of the floor above and below. The building facade is just decoration. No structural support.

If you drop another floor onto it from 10 feet, it will fail.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Because of Newton and Galileo.

Also thats not even what happened. The top disintegrated long before it could crush the bottom.

Video evidence.


Amongst other things.

Quote from: markjo on August 10, 2017, 11:30:35 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Actually, only one floor at a time needs to be collected on the way down.

A floor is tons of concrete and only connected to the central column strong enough to support it's own weight (plus some margin). And held there on it's own, independent of the floor above and below. The building facade is just decoration. No structural support.

If you drop another floor onto it from 10 feet, it will fail.

I'm sorry mate but you and markjo are wrong according to NIST.

NIST's findings do not support the "pancake theory" of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel "trusses" integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.

I'm sorry mate but you ... are wrong according to NIST.

NIST is wrong according to me.   

Quote from: disputeone on August 10, 2017, 06:44:08 PM

I'm sorry mate but you ... are wrong according to NIST.

NIST is wrong according to me.   

Also me. Alright cool

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 10, 2017, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 10, 2017, 11:30:35 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Actually, only one floor at a time needs to be collected on the way down.

A floor is tons of concrete and only connected to the central column strong enough to support it's own weight (plus some margin). And held there on it's own, independent of the floor above and below. The building facade is just decoration. No structural support.

If you drop another floor onto it from 10 feet, it will fail.

I'm sorry mate but you and markjo are wrong according to NIST.

I'm sorry, but did you miss the question mark at the end of my post?

Questions are never wrong.

Or are they?

Quote from: disputeone on August 10, 2017, 06:44:08 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 10, 2017, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 10, 2017, 11:30:35 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Actually, only one floor at a time needs to be collected on the way down.

A floor is tons of concrete and only connected to the central column strong enough to support it's own weight (plus some margin). And held there on it's own, independent of the floor above and below. The building facade is just decoration. No structural support.

If you drop another floor onto it from 10 feet, it will fail.

I'm sorry mate but you and markjo are wrong according to NIST.

I'm sorry, but did you miss the question mark at the end of my post?

Questions are never wrong.

Or are they?

Interrupting a discussion with off topic questions is always bad. Topic is my Challenge about fuel required to go to the Moon. The answer is that no amount of fuel will get you there. See my posts after post #1.

Now we discuss how many horizontal floors are required to collapse a building by gravity from top down into dust. Answer is that buildings do not collapse due to the horizontal floors.

Buildings only collapse by gravity, when supporting, vertical columns fail. Of course a column may fail, if you heat it up by fire, but an intact column below, will not fail, if a column above fails. It is very easy to show scientifically - particularly when the columns are of steel. I have done it at my website. And another of my Challenges is to show me wrong. Noone has.

Quote from: disputeone on August 10, 2017, 06:44:08 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 10, 2017, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 10, 2017, 11:30:35 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 01:21:00 AM

My Challenge is to drop the 1/10th top C of a structure A on the bottom part of A to crush it.

Vérinage is to destroy all the supports of a concrete structure at 2/3 height from bottom to allow the 1/3rd top to crush the 2/3rd bottom.

If the top 5 weak floors can destroy the 5 strong floors immediately below, then why shouldn't the top weak 10 (or more) floors be able to destroy the strong floors immediately below and just keep going?

Actually, only one floor at a time needs to be collected on the way down.

A floor is tons of concrete and only connected to the central column strong enough to support it's own weight (plus some margin). And held there on it's own, independent of the floor above and below. The building facade is just decoration. No structural support.

If you drop another floor onto it from 10 feet, it will fail.

I'm sorry mate but you and markjo are wrong according to NIST.

I'm sorry, but did you miss the question mark at the end of my post?

Questions are never wrong.

Or are they?

My bad. The answer to your question is. That didnt and couldn't happen. As cited by NIST.

Interrupting a discussion with off topic questions is always bad.

Isn't it time for your bowl of Pablum and a nap?

Interrupting a discussion with off topic questions is always bad.

Acting like a moderator when you aren't is bad too.  That's one of the reasons that you keep getting banned from other, more discriminating, forums.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 10, 2017, 01:50:46 PM

I doubt you could manage it.

OK - a floor is the lower, normally horizontal surface of a room, part on which one walks. Do not confuse a floor with a wall that is a vertical structure forming the sides of the room, etc, etc, etc. You do not walk on walls unless you are a fly or similar.

You are not very bright, which explains why you cannot win my Challenge.

You missed out "subdivision of a building". See? You couldn't manage it.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 10, 2017, 02:02:10 PM

Quote from: onebigmonkey on August 10, 2017, 01:50:46 PM

I doubt you could manage it.

OK - a floor is the lower, normally horizontal surface of a room, part on which one walks. Do not confuse a floor with a wall that is a vertical structure forming the sides of the room, etc, etc, etc. You do not walk on walls unless you are a fly or similar.

You are not very bright, which explains why you cannot win my Challenge.

You missed out "subdivision of a building". See? You couldn't manage it.

Yes, yes, floors, roofs and walls subdivide a building, where I live. I don't know about your place. A cave? A hole in the ground? A branch in a tree?

Why do you say such stupid things?

I was trying to be funny. This monkeybrain must have a lodging somewhere.

I was trying to be funny. This monkeybrain must have a lodging somewhere.

You failed as you do with everything.

I was trying to be funny. This monkeybrain must have a lodging somewhere.

You being funny is one of my 1M€ challenges. Unfortunately for you, you failed. Yet again!