I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4980 on: June 29, 2016, 11:32:31 AM »
@heiwa

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What I am saying is you do not have the money, you have not been involved officially in any investigation except maybe on board a ship you crewed, professionally the best you achieved is a design to prevent oil spills that does not get used, you receive government assistance, your company has no clients except maybe someone who owns a private small boat, and you or your company is not affiliated or work with any government body.

If I am wrong it will be rather easy to offer evidence that I am. Unlike you I am totally willing to admit when I am wrong.  I understand that I am not perfect and have made errors in judgement in the past and have been wrong about things.  Show me I am wrong.

Well, topic is my Challenge about human space travel and not my agency. Info about me and my agency is at http://heiwaco.com . And if you click there, you also find info about the Challenge. Also you are warned about cognitive dissonance. So do not suggest I suffer from it.

Come on prove me wrong.  Show us you are not a liar and fraud.

Show me how gravity assist are impossible when you say one of the reason we can not make it to the moon is gravity is capable of altering somethings velocity.



I describe the gravity assist problem at point C of http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm .

E.g experts suggest:
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A spacecraft arrives within the sphere of influence of a body with a so-called hyperbolic excess velocity equal to the vector sum of its incoming velocity and the planet's velocity. In the planet's frame of reference, the direction of the spacecraft's velocity changes, but not its magnitude. In the spacecraft's frame of reference, the net result of this trade-off of momentum is a small change in the planet's velocity and a very large delta-v for the spacecraft ... blah, blah.

In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4981 on: June 29, 2016, 11:51:23 AM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit. 
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4982 on: June 29, 2016, 01:20:19 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

What intrigues me is he does not see the flaw in his reasoning.  He has inconsistent rules to support his world view, yet accuses other people of suffering from cognitive dissonance.

@Heiwa

Why not post your calculations here.  Your website is not easy to navigate and find information on.  Do you really need to have your ego stroked by trying to increase your sites visitor count?

What would add some credibility to your challenge and yourself is offering evidence you can pay.  So far all the available evidence suggest you can not and you are being dishonest with yourself and others.


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4983 on: June 29, 2016, 02:07:45 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

Yes. Only orbital trajectories are predictable, e.g. a spacecraft or satellite orbiting Earth. But trying to get away from Earth to fly to the Moon (or a comet) is not possible. Earth pulls you back all the time and the Sun pulls you towards it, but if you are lucky, you may come close to the Moon and what do you do then, when dropping towards the Moon ready to crash? Brake to get into orbit around the Moon? Or do a gravity assisted kick going back to Earth? Give me a break. You do not know where you are and cannot apply any force in the right direction, at the right location for the correct duration at the right time. That's why you are another loser of my Challenge suffering from cognitive dissonance. You think you can do it but you cannot do it. You live in a fantasy world.
Same with a re-entry. You think it is easy dropping down on Earth at 11 000 m/s speed at the the right time in the right direction at the right location in the upper atmosphere to start plasma braking but you fail. Wrong time, wrong direction, wrong location = failure. And no drag and lift force will magically develop there. You will just go faster and faster until you ... brake up/apart/down/are vaporized.
Human space travel is unsafe! You always have fun when trying or you become a Hero of the Sovietunion like Gagarin = you fake it.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4984 on: June 29, 2016, 02:19:32 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

@Heiwa

Why not post your calculations here.  Your website is not easy to navigate and find information on. 

Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
I cannot copy/paste my web site here.
Here we just discuss my Challenge that nobody has won for obvious reasons.
You suffer from cognitive dissonance. You are a loser. Like mikeman7918 starting it. Apparently he was locked up in some mental institution to get some cure, poor sod.
But I warned him!

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4985 on: June 29, 2016, 02:58:37 PM »
Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
How many people do you need to tell you that it's an utter mess before you pay the slightest bit of attention?
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4986 on: June 29, 2016, 03:20:19 PM »
Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
How many people do you need to tell you that it's an utter mess before you pay the slightest bit of attention?

LOL!!!

You back now with your fake-ass 'reasonable persona'?

Not that you've ever been away.

But still...

LOL!!!
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4987 on: June 29, 2016, 04:07:43 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

Yes. Only orbital trajectories are predictable, e.g. a spacecraft or satellite orbiting Earth. But trying to get away from Earth to fly to the Moon (or a comet) is not possible. Earth pulls you back all the time and the Sun pulls you towards it, but if you are lucky, you may come close to the Moon and what do you do then, when dropping towards the Moon ready to crash? Brake to get into orbit around the Moon? Or do a gravity assisted kick going back to Earth? Give me a break. You do not know where you are and cannot apply any force in the right direction, at the right location for the correct duration at the right time. That's why you are another loser of my Challenge suffering from cognitive dissonance. You think you can do it but you cannot do it. You live in a fantasy world.
Same with a re-entry. You think it is easy dropping down on Earth at 11 000 m/s speed at the the right time in the right direction at the right location in the upper atmosphere to start plasma braking but you fail. Wrong time, wrong direction, wrong location = failure. And no drag and lift force will magically develop there. You will just go faster and faster until you ... brake up/apart/down/are vaporized.
Human space travel is unsafe! You always have fun when trying or you become a Hero of the Sovietunion like Gagarin = you fake it.
translation:  Heiwa doesn't understand it so he assumes nobody else does either.


Got anything that isn't an argument from incredulity logical fallacy?

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4988 on: June 29, 2016, 04:08:40 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

@Heiwa

Why not post your calculations here.  Your website is not easy to navigate and find information on. 

Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
I cannot copy/paste my web site here.
Here we just discuss my Challenge that nobody has won for obvious reasons.
You suffer from cognitive dissonance. You are a loser. Like mikeman7918 starting it. Apparently he was locked up in some mental institution to get some cure, poor sod.
But I warned him!
'translation: go to my website. I need the hits

And then of course followed up with ad hominems. 

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4989 on: June 29, 2016, 08:31:34 PM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

Yes. Only orbital trajectories are predictable, e.g. a spacecraft or satellite orbiting Earth. But trying to get away from Earth to fly to the Moon (or a comet) is not possible. Earth pulls you back all the time and the Sun pulls you towards it, but if you are lucky, you may come close to the Moon and what do you do then, when dropping towards the Moon ready to crash? Brake to get into orbit around the Moon? Or do a gravity assisted kick going back to Earth? Give me a break. You do not know where you are and cannot apply any force in the right direction, at the right location for the correct duration at the right time. That's why you are another loser of my Challenge suffering from cognitive dissonance. You think you can do it but you cannot do it. You live in a fantasy world.
Same with a re-entry. You think it is easy dropping down on Earth at 11 000 m/s speed at the the right time in the right direction at the right location in the upper atmosphere to start plasma braking but you fail. Wrong time, wrong direction, wrong location = failure. And no drag and lift force will magically develop there. You will just go faster and faster until you ... brake up/apart/down/are vaporized.
Human space travel is unsafe! You always have fun when trying or you become a Hero of the Sovietunion like Gagarin = you fake it.
translation:  Heiwa doesn't understand it so he assumes nobody else does either.


Got anything that isn't an argument from incredulity logical fallacy?

Hm, you seem to suffer seriously from cognitive dissonance.

To win the Challenge you must (A) describe the trajectory of a human space trip to the Moon and Mars and the locations/times in space, where you carry out certain manoeuvres, e.g. apply a force in the right direction/duration, and (B) describe the trajectory of a re-entry, i.e. how to reduce speed from 21 000 m/s to 0 when returning from Mars.

Do not mumble that it is possible and that I do not understand anything or that it has been done. Human space trips to Mars have not been done! Plenty clowns say it is easy and possible, so why don't they describe how?

Human space trips to the Moon haven been done by Dr. Buzz & Co 1969, but asked how he gets violent, etc.

But good news! ESA shall fly humans to to Moon and build a village there 2024 so you just have to copy/paste ESA:s human Moon trip to win my Challenge. Easy?

No, sorry! ESA cannot describe how they intend to get to the Moon. Only that they plan to build a village there 2024! At European taxpayers' expense. The ESA president and top management are a joke. I describe it at my website.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4990 on: June 29, 2016, 09:38:34 PM »
@heiwa

If your bread and butter is safety at sea why can you not afford bread and butter without government assistance?

Could you show evidence you were part of an official investigating team?  The only thing I have seen is you questioning the reports from them.


If you fit into the norm, my guess professionally you feel you are a failure and unwilling to admit it to yourself.  You likely are a narcissist and mildly delusional which fuels your need to feel your are important in the grand scheme of things.

Evidence:

1. You like to think you have received a death sentence, because the US government has targeted you. 

2. If I remember correctly you felt the need to put something like this on your website,"Anders is good looking, funny, and smart".  Not only that you decided it was important enough to make the font larger and put it in bold.

3. You designed a solution to prevent oil spills which I suspect you expected to be received with accolades and widely used.  The reality is it is not being used in favor of multiple hulls.

4. Your willful ignorance when it comes to physics.  You accept it is correct except in cases where it says you are wrong.

5. Your inability to let this thread die.  If people lose interest you bump this thread, usually with something to bait people.  Just look at your post that you made about a week after the last time someone posted.  You have done it before.

6. You live in government subsidized housing, yet unwilling to admit it.  You need people to see you as important and wealthy, unwilling to be seen as just an average person.

7. You are your company do not appear on any list from official sources.  The only place your company is listed is your website.  You do not even provide a client or past project list.

http://www.orion-naval.com/en/the-company

Notice how they provide information about former projects and clients, list professional organizations they are members of.  Also how they did not feel the need to say how handsome they feel they are.

8. You requested a nuclear bomb be detonated near where you live.  Not accepting if they granted your request it would at the very least be a health hazard to many people.  The fact you did not opt for requesting to present at a nuclear test, you also did not take into account nuclear testing treatises.  This is a behavior of someone who at the very least thinks they are important enough to have this done just for them.

9. Feel the need to frequently say your challenge is very popular.

10.  Mentions NASA and other space agencies have not submitted anything to you.  When it is very likely people within these organizations likely never heard of you and if they have likely understand, as I do, you have already judged any application a failure.

My guess your main contribution to maritime industry was you were part of a ships crew.  Probably a safety officer. 

Now look at my other post where I use the definition for cognitive dissonance and offer evidence you are likely suffering it.  We add the above.  Someone unlikely willing to admit they are wrong,  who avoids answering questions, resorts to ad hominem frequently, calls subjects he brings up as off topic, unwilling to offer evidence to support claims, unwilling to publicly admit people gave you answers when they have, moving the goal post and changing your challenge.  All behaviors that is typical of someone who deny the truth or they could be wrong.

What I am saying is you do not have the money, you have not been involved officially in any investigation except maybe on board a ship you crewed, professionally the best you achieved is a design to prevent oil spills that does not get used, you receive government assistance, your company has no clients except maybe someone who owns a private small boat, and you or your company is not affiliated or work with any government body.

If I am wrong it will be rather easy to offer evidence that I am. Unlike you I am totally willing to admit when I am wrong.  I understand that I am not perfect and have made errors in judgement in the past and have been wrong about things.  Show me I am wrong.

Damn woody. Coming out with the man hammer....reading the right act. I imagine not far from the truth, or could even be understating it.

Never seen your feathers get ruffled to that extreme. No need for profanity, but the truthful words cut like daggers.

Oh this was the quote you were looking for.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4991 on: June 30, 2016, 12:01:11 AM »
Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
How many people do you need to tell you that it's an utter mess before you pay the slightest bit of attention?

Hm, my space travel website http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm is very clear and easy to understand. Plenty people adore it (and me). They understand that
A. A re-entry is not possible as you are going to fast, do not know, where you are and what direction you fly and you have no means to brake.
B. You cannot calculate your trajectory! When in space the moving Earth pulls you backwards, Sun pulls you sideways and you have no idea where you are and where you are heading at any given time. Firering your rocket engine doesn't help as you don't know in what direction to fire.
C. Gravity assisted kicks are nonsense. You cannot ever approach a heavenly body to do them.
D. Elon says he will go Mars soon. But he is a fraud with his rockets (stage props) landing on barges.

The problem is this cognitive dissonance people suffer from. They have been told the A, B, C and D and do not understand that they are fooled!


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4992 on: June 30, 2016, 12:24:00 AM »
Nevermind the design of the website being absolutely horrendous and made on a cheap host for such an important site (how are you even getting enough bandwith for 2000000 visits a years) but who the fuck puts "assbook" as one of the main navigation links on a business site?

Not only that, your "cognitive dissonance" warnings would be sure to scare off anyone that wanted to work with you.

Finally, all of the links you give as "proof" of your design being rejected are either a. on site (i.e. easily faked) or b. give 404 errors.
Heiwa on the impossibility of space travel:

There are no toilets up there and sex is also a problem, just to mention a few difficulties.

WHEEEEEEEEEEE

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4993 on: June 30, 2016, 01:07:12 AM »
Nevermind the design of the website being absolutely horrendous and made on a cheap host for such an important site (how are you even getting enough bandwith for 2000000 visits a years) but who the fuck puts "assbook" as one of the main navigation links on a business site?

Not only that, your "cognitive dissonance" warnings would be sure to scare off anyone that wanted to work with you.

Finally, all of the links you give as "proof" of your design being rejected are either a. on site (i.e. easily faked) or b. give 404 errors.

Thanks for comments. The >2 130 000 visitors today are from the date the counter was installed many years ago. Today I have average >500 visitors/day. The layout is from around 1998, when I started the whole thing. I like the layout.
All links work, when they are installed on the web page. But many links then just disappear (404 errors). What can I do about it?
But the assbook link works. It seems you must have such a link today. Some people like looking up ass holes!

The serious stuff is about safety at sea. My biz!

Imagine that a friend of mine was sentenced to 16+ years in jail because his ship accidentally contacted a submerged rock, when nobody died and no pollution was caused. Shit happens. And then most people abaord were evacuated and saved. But some stupid staff opened illegal watertight doors during the evacuation causing loss of stability, capsize and sinking. The whole thing is a scandal but owner and authorities assisted by media conspire against my poor friend. All is his fault. And insurances pay! Insurances were not valid! But the show is not over; The wreck is still full of water at the port of Genoa and nobody knows what to do with it.

The pages about fake moon travel, fake a-bombs and fake 911 global top down collapses, etc, etc, are just for fun. Only idiots believe in human space trips, nuclear wars and arabs flying planes into skyscrapers anyway. The sad thing is that the POTUS orders torture and murders of his opponents with the US Congress applauding. It is not fun.

But what can I do?


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4994 on: June 30, 2016, 02:07:54 AM »
First of all, one of the links is fundamentally broken. It links to www.gasandoil.com/goc/reports/rex80935.htm instead of http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/reports/rex80935.htm. This means the link will be interpreted being a link to a file on your own server. So, unless the link magically broke itself in the last 15 years (read: it didn't), you obviously didn't even try the link.

The other does work, however, when I access an archived version of the site from 2001.

I went digging around a little for reports and found these articles and reports:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/Trans/hpw105-74.000/hpw105-74_1.HTM
http://www.nap.edu/read/10199/chapter/4#43
http://www.offshore-technology.com/features/feature1674/ (Think this article sums it up the best)

It seems like the reason your tanker design was rejected was because it did not meet the US Coast Guard's requirements. From the last article:

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"The coast guard has correctly noted that the majority of spills in US waters result from low-impact collisions and groundings and that the double-hull design, therefore, would provide maximum protection,"

Maybe you might want to get a separate domain or split your site into business matters and your theories without constantly intermingling the two? It'd make it quite a bit more professional.

Btw, do you have any patents for your design? I went looking around on Swedish and French patent databases and found nothing from Heiwa Co about the Coulumbi egg design or even just "tanker".
Heiwa on the impossibility of space travel:

There are no toilets up there and sex is also a problem, just to mention a few difficulties.

WHEEEEEEEEEEE

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4995 on: June 30, 2016, 02:31:04 AM »
Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
How many people do you need to tell you that it's an utter mess before you pay the slightest bit of attention?

Hm, my space travel website http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm is very clear and easy to understand. Plenty people adore it (and me).

Wow. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
What will it take for you to admit otherwise? Complete consensus among the userships of multiple sites? No, wait, you've got that.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4996 on: June 30, 2016, 03:59:42 AM »
Hm, all calculations are at my website, which is very easy to navigate and find info on.  You really must try harder.
How many people do you need to tell you that it's an utter mess before you pay the slightest bit of attention?

Hm, my space travel website http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm is very clear and easy to understand. Plenty people adore it (and me).

Wow. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
What will it take for you to admit otherwise? Complete consensus among the userships of multiple sites? No, wait, you've got that.
Could we say that Heiwa is a self-made man, who worshippeth his creator!

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4997 on: June 30, 2016, 05:26:45 AM »
Wow. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
What will it take for you to admit otherwise? Complete consensus among the userships of multiple sites? No, wait, you've got that.

And she's off with the brainwashing again...

Good work 'Jane'!

Oh, & STFU Geoff.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4998 on: June 30, 2016, 05:36:41 AM »
In the real world no spacecraft can arrive at a moving heavenly body (moon, planet, sun) with a hyperbolic excess velocity (LOL). The spacecraft is simply attracted by gravity of the heavenly body and will crash on the heavenly body ... or miss it ... or not find the heavenly body at all in space. Probably the latter.

Huh.  So a spacecraft follows a regular, predictable path when it orbits the earth, but as soon as it crosses into another SOI Kepler's laws break down and it falls directly toward the other body or gets completely disoriented?  Seems legit.

Yes. Only orbital trajectories are predictable, e.g. a spacecraft or satellite orbiting Earth. But trying to get away from Earth to fly to the Moon (or a comet) is not possible. Earth pulls you back all the time and the Sun pulls you towards it, but if you are lucky, you may come close to the Moon and what do you do then, when dropping towards the Moon ready to crash? Brake to get into orbit around the Moon? Or do a gravity assisted kick going back to Earth? Give me a break. You do not know where you are and cannot apply any force in the right direction, at the right location for the correct duration at the right time. That's why you are another loser of my Challenge suffering from cognitive dissonance. You think you can do it but you cannot do it. You live in a fantasy world.
Same with a re-entry. You think it is easy dropping down on Earth at 11 000 m/s speed at the the right time in the right direction at the right location in the upper atmosphere to start plasma braking but you fail. Wrong time, wrong direction, wrong location = failure. And no drag and lift force will magically develop there. You will just go faster and faster until you ... brake up/apart/down/are vaporized.
Human space travel is unsafe! You always have fun when trying or you become a Hero of the Sovietunion like Gagarin = you fake it.
translation:  Heiwa doesn't understand it so he assumes nobody else does either.


Got anything that isn't an argument from incredulity logical fallacy?

Hm, you seem to suffer seriously from cognitive dissonance.

To win the Challenge you must (A) describe the trajectory of a human space trip to the Moon and Mars and the locations/times in space, where you carry out certain manoeuvres, e.g. apply a force in the right direction/duration, and (B) describe the trajectory of a re-entry, i.e. how to reduce speed from 21 000 m/s to 0 when returning from Mars.

Do not mumble that it is possible and that I do not understand anything or that it has been done. Human space trips to Mars have not been done! Plenty clowns say it is easy and possible, so why don't they describe how?

Human space trips to the Moon haven been done by Dr. Buzz & Co 1969, but asked how he gets violent, etc.

But good news! ESA shall fly humans to to Moon and build a village there 2024 so you just have to copy/paste ESA:s human Moon trip to win my Challenge. Easy?

No, sorry! ESA cannot describe how they intend to get to the Moon. Only that they plan to build a village there 2024! At European taxpayers' expense. The ESA president and top management are a joke. I describe it at my website.
No mumbling and no cognitive dissonance here.  I'm specifically stating you do not understand it and your entire argument is nothing but an argument from incredulity fallacy.  You've done NOTHING to prove otherwise.  You've also done nothing to prove you even have the money.  You and your website are a joke.

And you are LYING AGAIN about Buzz.  He was violent ONCE and then only when physically and verbally accosted.  Perhaps your cognitive dissonance prevents you from realizing that?

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #4999 on: June 30, 2016, 07:16:47 AM »
First of all, one of the links is fundamentally broken. It links to www.gasandoil.com/goc/reports/rex80935.htm instead of http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/reports/rex80935.htm. This means the link will be interpreted being a link to a file on your own server. So, unless the link magically broke itself in the last 15 years (read: it didn't), you obviously didn't even try the link.

The other does work, however, when I access an archived version of the site from 2001.

I went digging around a little for reports and found these articles and reports:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/Trans/hpw105-74.000/hpw105-74_1.HTM
http://www.nap.edu/read/10199/chapter/4#43
http://www.offshore-technology.com/features/feature1674/ (Think this article sums it up the best)

It seems like the reason your tanker design was rejected was because it did not meet the US Coast Guard's requirements. From the last article:

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"The coast guard has correctly noted that the majority of spills in US waters result from low-impact collisions and groundings and that the double-hull design, therefore, would provide maximum protection,"

Maybe you might want to get a separate domain or split your site into business matters and your theories without constantly intermingling the two? It'd make it quite a bit more professional.

Btw, do you have any patents for your design? I went looking around on Swedish and French patent databases and found nothing from Heiwa Co about the Coulumbi egg design or even just "tanker".

Thanks for comments and link http://www.offshore-technology.com/features/feature1674/ eleven (!) years after my design was approved by IMO. 100% off topic!

It was very simple. The IMO approved 1997 my oil tanker design as equivalent to double hull after years of considerations. Only one IMO member, USA, who had participated all the time at numerous meetings informed, after approval had been granted that USA would not allow such tankers into US ports.

USA had nothing against the design as such BUT oil tankers using the Coulombi Egg design could not enter US ports. You follow?

Thus the design was and is approved by all concerned since 1997 and rejected by nobody. Only problem is that a tanker using the design cannot enter US ports.

US ports are open to all ships except tankers using my design.

Imagine that.

Is it fair? Democrazy?

I think it is discrimination. Like US treat the niggers. Wrong design!

Nothing I can do about it, anyway.

It is like the M/S Estonia that was sunk by sabotage 1994, when carrying USSR arms to Sweden stolen by US interests. The arms were going to be flown away from Stockholm but the whole ship was sunk killing 1000 people the night before.  it was a big mess. Plenty people involved were also killed after the incident, e.g. 1997, when IMO approved my tanker design.

Relatives of people killed on the M/S Estonia asked me 1996 to assist investigating the incident 1994. What a coincidence. Thugs of all kind kindly asked me not to get involved. But being a friendly person I did ... encouraged by my mother.

Of course the tanker design was patented since around 1990, a US oil company with Condi aboard wanted to buy the patents around 1996 but we declined to sell. Now all patents are expired so anyone can use the concept free of charge.

It was great fun and a great experience.

But topic is my €1M Challenge that someone said he had won. Now >5000 posts have been written about it here and nobody has won it. I think it is time to finish the discussion.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5000 on: June 30, 2016, 08:08:34 AM »
From what I understand his design does what it is meant to do.

The problem is cost/complexity, reduced hold capacity, and in accidents that occur the most often a multi-hull design will perform better and his design did not meet zero emissions standard in those conditions.

Anyone interested can read why the USCG rejected the design. 

The rejection and subsequent result of the design not being used since no shipping company would build a ship not allowed in US waters is part of why I think we have the Anders we do today.   


Also do you really think someone should just trust you blindly?  Put all that time and effort into an application for your challenge with you offering no evidence you can pay and you, being the sole judge, already stating your challenge is impossible. 

So what we have learned in this thread is there is a lot of evidence suggesting Anders is lying about a lot of things.  We also learned he has not offered any evidence to the contrary.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5001 on: June 30, 2016, 09:16:40 AM »
From what I understand his design does what it is meant to do.

The problem is cost/complexity, reduced hold capacity, and in accidents that occur the most often a multi-hull design will perform better and his design did not meet zero emissions standard in those conditions.

Anyone interested can read why the USCG rejected the design. 

The rejection and subsequent result of the design not being used since no shipping company would build a ship not allowed in US waters is part of why I think we have the Anders we do today.   


Also do you really think someone should just trust you blindly?  Put all that time and effort into an application for your challenge with you offering no evidence you can pay and you, being the sole judge, already stating your challenge is impossible. 

So what we have learned in this thread is there is a lot of evidence suggesting Anders is lying about a lot of things.  We also learned he has not offered any evidence to the contrary.
Hm, my tanker design was approved by the IMO incl. USA 1997 but after approval US informed that tankers using such design would not be permitted to enter US ports. Reason is that US has its own laws, OPA90, that only allows inferior tanker designs to enter US ports. You follow? US has its own laws that are not in accordance with international laws. According that law (OPA90) alternative designs shall nevertheless be checked, etc, etc, but the USCG or National Academy of Science, bla, bla, will not do it.

Why would I lie about it? Or the M/S Estonia disaster? Or a-bombs or 911 collapses or US manned Moon trips. I just study the available info and find it not convincing. My website http://heiwaco.com is very popular.

Therefore my Challenges are great successes! Nobody wins them because they are hard to win. Money is evidently available. Why would I lie about that? I am rich and living in a luxurious appartment of my own with a nice view of the Mediterranean Sea. Only silly fools at this forum suffering from cognitive dissonance cannot understand it ... after >5000 posts. Sad. It is time to close the discussion.


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5002 on: June 30, 2016, 09:27:41 AM »
Money is evidently available.
You keep saying that but I don't think you know what it means.  You have provided no evidence that it is available so it is not evident to anyone.

Why would I lie about that?
Because you don't have it.  If you did, it would be easy to prove it but you've avoided all proof for years.


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5003 on: June 30, 2016, 10:45:59 AM »
And she's off with the brainwashing again...
Ooh, really?


Heiwa...
Listen to my voice...
Your site is organised terribly...
Literally everyone agrees...
Put some of that million to use and pay a professional designer...
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5004 on: June 30, 2016, 11:05:36 AM »
Your site is organised terribly...
Literally everyone agrees...

I don't; therefore you are WRONG.

Pretending that you're not brainwashing everyone whilst actually attempting to brainwash everyone is pretty much the definition of Fail.

Which is why your sock-IDs have to be rotated in shifts, as people catch on to how full of repulsive shit you are PDQ.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5005 on: June 30, 2016, 11:20:51 AM »

Hm, my tanker design was approved by the IMO incl. USA 1997 but after approval US informed that tankers using such design would not be permitted to enter US ports. Reason is that US has its own laws, OPA90, that only allows inferior tanker designs to enter US ports. You follow? US has its own laws that are not in accordance with international laws. According that law (OPA90) alternative designs shall nevertheless be checked, etc, etc, but the USCG or National Academy of Science, bla, bla, will not do it.

Why would I lie about it? Or the M/S Estonia disaster? Or a-bombs or 911 collapses or US manned Moon trips. I just study the available info and find it not convincing. My website http://heiwaco.com is very popular.

Therefore my Challenges are great successes! Nobody wins them because they are hard to win. Money is evidently available. Why would I lie about that? I am rich and living in a luxurious appartment of my own with a nice view of the Mediterranean Sea. Only silly fools at this forum suffering from cognitive dissonance cannot understand it ... after >5000 posts. Sad. It is time to close the discussion.

Why would you lie about what different officials say?

You state that NASA officials say space travel is easy when they stated in the source you provided that it is the most difficult and dangerous endeavors mankind has ever done.

You say they do not mention previous manned missions when they do.  Like when they said, "this is not just foot steps and planting a flag". They mention missions that involved men orbiting the earth.

You claim they say re-entry is easy when it is considered one of or the most dangerous phase of a mission.

Why did you deny people ever calculating propellant use?  When some people did the calculations for you and posted them. 

So you see you make claims that are easily proven false.  So you demonstrate you are willing to lie to yourself and others.  Why you do it? You put a warning on your site that just might answer that question.

You have proven you are dishonest just with what I mentioned above.  Which brings me to ask why should a reasonable person just accept your word for it?

Show us we are wrong.  Post some evidence you do not live in subsidized housing or you have the assets to pay if someone wins. 

Like I said all the evidence available to us suggest you are willing to lie and you can not afford to pay.

By the way your design is not allowed in US ports because it fails to met the zero emission required by law.  I am also not sure it would be widely used simply because of cost, complexity and amount of hold space lost. There is also one of the reasons the USCG did not support your design.  In the most likely situations and statistically the most common your design is not superior.  If you do not understand that as an engineer you should spend some time considering cost, complexity vs. benefits.

Until further evidence is supplied to the contrary I will believe the below:

Your expectations for your career fell short.  You felt your design would be received with accolades and widely used making you wealthy.  Your ego would not allow you to accept reality so you needed to make yourself feel superior and important in the grand scheme of things.

You started questioning things from your peers.  Like their conclusions after investigating accidents. Calling them wrong and not viewing them as capable as yourself.  You alone understanding the truth and what actually happened.  You need them to be wrong.

You need to believe you are more important and influential than you are.  That is why you need to and have others believe the US government sentenced you to death.  It makes up for your belief you do not want to accept.  You believe you are a failure, your ego just will not allow you to accept it.

Along with the above you need people to believe you are wealthy.  Evidence available suggest you are not.  You are unwilling to admit that you are just like a lot of other people.  Needing assistance to afford housing, food and other necessities.

You fail to provide a project or client list for your company.  Many companies do to lure other clients and instill confidence in their capabilities.  Why did you opt not to list past projects?

On your "very professional" company website you feel the need to state something like this,"I am very good looking, funny, smart" or what ever you actually put.  You also felt the need to make the font larger than you used for other parts and put it in bold.  This is on the page where you are listing qualifications to potential clients.  This is narcissistic behavior.  It supports my conclusions about you.

You, the judge of the challenge, has already stated no one can win.  This means the judge is biased and has already ruled prior to receiving any application.

I will continue to ensure to point things out like the above.  On the off chance someone takes your challenge seriously I want to give them a chance to realize they will be wasting a lot of time and effort.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5006 on: June 30, 2016, 11:21:01 AM »
Pretending that you're not brainwashing everyone whilst actually attempting to brainwash everyone is pretty much the definition of Fail.

Which is why your sock-IDs have to be rotated in shifts, as people catch on to how full of repulsive shit you are PDQ.
Never claimed I wasn't brainwashing everyone. i actually am, it's all part of my cunning plan to take over the world using the secret technology NASA's really been working on, the MS Estonia, and more than a few evil penguins.
Of my army of alts, only one has been active recently, sorry. I don't rotate, sometimes I just need a break from this site.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5007 on: June 30, 2016, 12:42:02 PM »

Show us we are wrong. 

Who are we? You and ...?

Anyway, topic is my funny Challenge about human space trips to the Moon and planet Mars. Just describe them and ... COLLECT €1M from me. Do not flip out and end up in a mental hospital like mikeman7819.

You sound being a serious supporter of the POTUS torture and murder policies to eliminate, wipe out, kill and slaughter any opposition. Why don't you identify yourself with full style and photo ... like me?



http://heiwaco.com/chall2.htm

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5008 on: June 30, 2016, 01:45:38 PM »

Show us we are wrong. 

Who are we? You and ...?

Anyway, topic is my funny Challenge about human space trips to the Moon and planet Mars. Just describe them and ... COLLECT €1M from me. Do not flip out and end up in a mental hospital like mikeman7819.

You sound being a serious supporter of the POTUS torture and murder policies to eliminate, wipe out, kill and slaughter any opposition. Why don't you identify yourself with full style and photo ... like me?



http://heiwaco.com/chall2.htm

Nope. 

I do not support most of US policy when it comes to things like the the Middle East,the War on terror, holding people indefinitely without charges,

The PATRIOT Act will led to more and more violations of civil liberties,

Think the Bush administration lied to the world about weapons of mass destruction. At best being guilty as the same thing you are and used confirmation bias and denying to look at any evidence to the contrary.

It would not surprise me to learn someone was aware of the 9/11 attacks or at least something was in the works and let it happen to justify actions in the Middle East.  Doing it to ensure a handful of people who have a tremendous amount of wealth could acquire more and partially masking it as being for national security. 

I lean to the left in my beliefs for the majority of issues.

Here is something a can do quickly to identify myself.

https://m.okcupid.com/profile/Woody11971

I do not do things like Facebook or similar.

Forgot to add this example again to show you how easy it is to offer evidence you can pay if someone wins your "challenge".



We are anyone who has asked for evidence of something and think you are not being honest.  So IMHO we includes people like frenat and babyhighspeed.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2016, 02:09:53 PM by Woody »

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #5009 on: June 30, 2016, 04:34:37 PM »
There is many more people whom has asked for evidence. I really could say about everyone whom has visited this long thread. I have given up on him, which is why I have backed off, as I realize it is pointless with a guy like him. However, I hope yalls luck is better than mine.

Though I will say I think he might be starting to feel the heat FINALLY. He has said twice let's end the discussion. Usually he is pumping his own threads not wanting to end it.

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