GLOBAL CONSPIRACY

Quote from: sokarul on March 30, 2015, 03:40:05 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on March 30, 2015, 03:32:47 PM

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If the Earth rotated and if the Sun were 92 000 000 miles away, we wouldn't notice ZIGZAG phenomena from ANYWHERE on the Earth, ...

So your whole argument is invalid, got it.

Finally!

Now if we could just get him to recognize that an observer who is rotating will see distant objects move across his field of view, he'll have it!

It's just astonishing that he goes to a lot of trouble setting up experiments to "prove" some irrelevant detail, then goes to more trouble describing a misinterpretation of what he sees, when he could just stand in one place and turn around and see all objects, far and near, move across his field of vision.

You make a very interesting point Charles.  Our world stands on the brink of a Rothschild's nightmare!  Something really, REALLY bad is going to happen this century. (It seems to me)  I am wondering if Putin may take the Ruble onto the Gold Standard? (If he hasn't already been replaced by a double) Surely we could be close to Nuclear War.

Mike, I think the 0.00001% are smarter than the average person. (or at least more knowledgeable in their area of expertise)  This interesting video, shows how the .00001% can control everything, and that includes Nasa!

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I was too busy watching the sun set without getting smaller to watch that video.

Quote from: sokarul on March 30, 2015, 09:26:22 PM

I was too busy watching the sun set without getting smaller to watch that video.

How do you manage to watch the sun set keeping you head in the send?

Quote from: sokarul on March 30, 2015, 09:26:22 PM

I was too busy watching the sun set without getting smaller to watch that video.

How do you manage to watch the sun set keeping you head in the send?

The Moon is a globe, they say:

Model of a Lunar Globe:

http://i.imgur.com/M8DkUWE.jpg

Where did i get this photo?

Here (Secretive 'NGA' Satellite Mapping Agency) : https://www.nga.mil/About/History/Apollo%2011/Pages/default.aspx

Interesting theory:

Flight 4U9525: Pentagon Contractor Worked for Secretive 'NGA' Satellite Mapping Agency : <youtube link>

Quote from: sokarul on March 30, 2015, 09:26:22 PM

I was too busy watching the sun set without getting smaller to watch that video.

How do you manage to watch the sun set keeping you head in the send?

HELIOCENTRICITY IS DEAD: http://www.sanibelcaptivafishing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Sun-rising-moon-setting-Captiva-nice-photo-2.jpg
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HELIOCENTRICITY IS DEAD:

http://www.sanibelcaptivafishing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Sun-rising-moon-setting-Captiva-nice-photo-2.jpg

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Why is this agency more secretive than NSA, CIA, FBI altogether?

Beside many other things, they certainly know the real shape of the Earth! Don't they?

This agency is more secretive than NSA, CIA, FBI altogether : <youtube video>

A few interesting comments below this video:

-America using the excuse of fighting terrorism that they are behind ton invade ppl's privacy and break just about every law

-We've had high level CIA and NSA whistle-blowers but we've never had a high level Pentagon whistle-blower [ ] (only Private Chelsea Manning) [ ]. Shows you who really pulls the strings. The Pentagon probably whacks them at the first sign of disobedience without batting an eyelash.

-Bin Laden died over 10 years ago from a lung disease...

-'Catching Osama Bin Laden'? Lol. Great liars, too! Google needs to change its motto.

Did you see this : http://www.energeticforum.com/254554-post297.html

One another photography of that type : http://zaslike.com/files/56q9h77mm39wpv9ulgr.jpg

One another interesting photography : http://www.zaslike.com/files/bkns9zgj088i0snnz0x.jpg

Oops..They get caught....moon and sun together (again) : http://www.panoramio.com/photo/73023528

And again, and again, and again :

http://www.zaslike.com/files/n3jd58guwnj0m9ym81p3.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/8hcbtpe7jebm9c03w546.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/x24sgeg76osfczxxwwwu.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/1f4qesfxbjh3orxv7f5q.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/u2dr44l1jnfer2vmgbhr.jpg

Look at this picture : http://www.reporterherald.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=5860137

Sun is on the horizon, and the upper half of the Moon is eclipsed, what eclipsed the Moon? The Earth?

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One another photography of that type : http://zaslike.com/files/56q9h77mm39wpv9ulgr.jpg

One another interesting photography : http://www.zaslike.com/files/bkns9zgj088i0snnz0x.jpg
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Did you see this : http://www.energeticforum.com/254554-post297.html

One another photography of that type :

<Apparently links to pictures of sun and/or moon... see comments by others.>

Look at this picture : http://www.reporterherald.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=5860137

Sun is on the horizon, and the upper half of the Moon is eclipsed, what eclipsed the Moon? The Earth?

29silhouette,

If your were right
I am.

(if your argument would make sense)
It does to anyone smart enough to understand it.

 then the Sun would look as if it's an immovable spot in the sky, and it would be so for any observer no matter where he would be placed at the surface of the Earth.
As long as one can track it until the horizon gets in the way at sunset.

If the Earth rotated and if the Sun were 92 000 000 miles away, we wouldn't notice ZIGZAG phenomena from ANYWHERE on the Earth
Wow... That's what we've been telling you for quite some time.

but we wouldn't notice a huge (180 degree) displacement of the Sun (from East to West) in the way it happens in our reality, also!!!
If we rotate from west to east, then the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, so I'm not sure what the issue is.

If the Earth rotated and if the Sun were somewhere between a few thousands and 100 000 km away from the Earth we would notice ZIGZAG phenomena from anywhere on the Earth, except if we were standing at the poles. At the poles the Sun would look as if it's an immovable spot in the sky!
And since we don't notice your zigzag phenomena...

The point is that the Sun is very, very close to the Earth, instead of being so insanely far away as HC ludicrous theory claims that it is.
Then why does it look like it's far away?

If the Earth rotated between 5am-7am and between 5pm-7pm you would move BACK (5pm-7pm) and FORWARD (5am-7am) with respect to the Sun, and between 11am-1pm, and between 11pm-1am you would move LATERALLY with respect to the Sun, that is to say, you would move LEFT TO RIGHT (11pm-1am), and RIGHT TO LEFT (11am-1pm).
Indeed.

The degrees of Sun's displacement in these periods would be drastically different if the Earth rotated!!!
If I understand what you're trying to say... no, it wouldn't.

If the Earth rotated you would have to slightly adjust (every few minutes or so) spatial orientation of your telescope from RIGHT TO LEFT (between 6am-6pm), and from LEFT TO RIGHT (between 6pm-6am). Right?
No. 

But it doesn't happen in reality!!!
Correct.

In reality you adjust spatial orientation of your telescope ALWAYS (24 hours during one Polar Day or one Polar Night) in the SAME direction! Right?
Yes.  This is the result of the sun being 92,000,000 miles away and Earth being a rotating sphere.  You can verify all this with a simple desktop globe.

Quote from: cikljamas on March 31, 2015, 03:49:16 PM

Did you see this : http://www.energeticforum.com/254554-post297.html

One another photography of that type : http://zaslike.com/files/56q9h77mm39wpv9ulgr.jpg

One another interesting photography : http://www.zaslike.com/files/bkns9zgj088i0snnz0x.jpg

Oops..They get caught....moon and sun together (again) : http://www.panoramio.com/photo/73023528

And again, and again, and again :

http://www.zaslike.com/files/n3jd58guwnj0m9ym81p3.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/8hcbtpe7jebm9c03w546.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/x24sgeg76osfczxxwwwu.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/1f4qesfxbjh3orxv7f5q.jpg
http://www.zaslike.com/files/u2dr44l1jnfer2vmgbhr.jpg

Look at this picture : http://www.reporterherald.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=5860137

Sun is on the horizon, and the upper half of the Moon is eclipsed, what eclipsed the Moon? The Earth?

I say they they are fake.  I am not just saying that because it goes against what I believe, I have a legitimate reason to believe it:

Here is one of your images:


I thought the Sun and Moon appeared to be the same size in the sky, and they both look like they are the same brightness.

Here is another image:


This one looks real at first glance, but the give away has to do with brightness.  Look at the ground in that image and you will notice that it is very dark, you can also see the Sun well enough to make out a disk so clearly this was a short exposure photograph.  Yet the Moon looks nice and bright as if it were taken with a longer exposure at night.  Have you ever seen the Moon in the day?  It's almost overpowered by the brightness of the Sky.  So how does the Moon look so bright in such a short exposure photograph?  Answer: Photoshop.  You can even see a black outline around the Moon where it was cut out of another image and pasted into this one.

I cant speak for those photos ,but I can tell you first hand iv seen the sun rise regularly with the moon visible in that positioning . The moon is so often seen in the sky most days with the sun . Young  children  who are in bed before dark fall , dont associate the moon with night time anymore , but instead with day time.

Thank you captain obvious. The moon can be seen during the day depending on it's phase. It's just never seen that close to the sun.

Quote from: cikljamas on March 31, 2015, 03:49:16 PM

Did you see this : http://www.energeticforum.com/254554-post297.html

No. Can you describe in general terms what it says? In the past, all the energeticforum links you have given have been to posts by you that are at least as erroneous as the ones you post here, so an utter waste of time.

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One another photography of that type :

<Apparently links to pictures of sun and/or moon... see comments by others.>

Look at this picture : http://www.reporterherald.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=5860137

Sun is on the horizon, and the upper half of the Moon is eclipsed, what eclipsed the Moon? The Earth?

Why do you say the Sun is on the horizon? Given the lack of distinct shadows as well as the position of earth's shadow on the Moon (yes, that is what's eclipsing the Moon), the Sun is obviously below the horizon. This is a long exposure in twilight soon after sunset and the Moon is emerging from totality as it's rising. This is exactly as you'd expect for this eclipse from Colorado. It's a cool picture. What revelation do you think it's supposed to convey?

As for our "mysterious" Lunar eclipse, let's see it here:



Now, draw me a diagram, and show me how this could be (geometrically possible) on the round Earth?

Kansas, flat as a pancake. Not convex, not concave!