There have been several posts on this subject since I started to reply, but since my life doesn't revolve around replying immediately to cikljamas' inquiries, I didn't finish before something else more important wanted attention. neimoka answers a lot of the basics. cikljamas seems to be bringing up some (mostly irrelevant on a quick read) additional points. mikeman7918 has a follow-up. Meanwhile, this is in answer to the post cited, but nothing since. i'll get to those later, maybe.
How come that you have skipped this challenge :
I thought I had answered it. In the future, would you please link back to the post where the quote is from (the easiest way is to use the 'Quote' button and simply edit the quoted text to keep the part you want, but there are other ways, too). If you did this, readers can easily see the original and any replies in-thread. If you had done so, I would link to the post where I answered (if I did), or admit that I missed it (if I did), but I'm not going to chase this down among your myriad of posts. Feel free to post a link if you feel it really wasn't answered at all or the answer was inadequate.
Let's look at it here since I either missed the original question or the answer was unclear to you:
Alpha2Omega, the Moon goes cca 0.5 degree to the left per hour, and the Earth rotates 15 degrees to the left, so what are you saying? Is 15 degrees less than 0,5 degree?
No. 15° is not less than 0.5°. Can you show where you think I said that, or is this a rhetorical question?
The Moon
revolves about the Earth about 0.5°/hour, and at the same time the Earth is
rotating at about 15°/hour in the same direction. Is that any clearer?
When you say that both celestial bodies (the Sun and Moon) go to the right (as a consequence of the rotation of the Earth), keep in mind your main argument which you have used in a ZIGZAG case. The Sun is 400 times (according to your theory) farther away than the Moon. So, for all practical purposes (in our case) the Sun is stationary. That is why i wont even mention that both celestial bodies (The Earth and the Moon) allegedly travel 107 000 km/h in a direction LEFT to RIGHT (East - West) which direction is of course in favor of my argument, also!!!
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The Sun and Moon appear to move from left to right across the sky if you're standing on earth's surface and facing them from the north. This is due entirely to the Earth's rotation. Distance to the Sun does not matter, so, no, the Sun is
not stationary; it moves across our sky at about 15°/hour (from left to right, in the situation described). There is no "zigzag" either expected nor observed as cikljamas proposes. Diurnal motion completely overcomes - by several orders of magnitude - the very small parallax (what he calls "zigzag" but isn't) that does exist.
Do you know by chance the right answers to these questions:
1. When the Earth rotates 1 degree to the left, what would be the exact mathematical consequence of this?
A) How much degrees we should expect that the Moon moves to the right as a result of 1 degree displacement rotation of the Earth to the left, having in mind that the Moon is allegedly 385 000 km away from the Earth?
[Note the clarification.]
The Earth rotates 1° in 4 minutes (close enough). Assuming the Moon travels 0.5°/hour in its orbit, it travels 0.033° (1/30 of 1°) in 4 minutes in the same direction. Ignoring parallax, which would depend on a couple of unspecified parameters involving the observer's location, but is very small even in the worst case, and assuming the Moon is on the celestial equator, the Moon would move approximately 1° less 0.033°, or 0.967° (less, because the Earth's rotation is "chasing" the Moon) westward in four minutes.
The Sun, on the other hand, would move across the sky much closer to 1° under those circumstances in the same time.
I would say:that this math is quite inaccurate 15 - 0,5 = 14,5 degrees (in favor of my argument)
That math
is quite inaccurate as an answer to the question asked. It's a reasonable approximation for an hour's worth of rotation (15°) instead of 1°. What is your point? Are you conflating one hour of rotation with one degree of rotation? Are you suggesting one of anything is the same as one of anything else?
B) How much degrees we should expect that the Sun moves to the right as a result of 1 degree displacement rotation of the Earth to the left, having in mind that the Sun is allegedly 150 000 000 km away from the Earth?
Again, neglecting parallax, which, while insignificant with the much nearer Moon, is vastly less significant here, and assuming the Sun is near the equator, the Sun will indeed move very close to 1° across the sky in four minutes.
2. When the Earth-Moon system moves 108 000 km (per hour) to the right, how much degrees of displacement of the Earth-Moon system (with respect to the stationary Sun) we should expect as a consequence of this 108 000 km? Shouldn't we expect additional 15 degrees difference between the Moon and Sun, since 108 000 / 3500 = 30 / 0,5 = 15
108000/3500 = 30.86, not 30/0.5. And 30 / 0.5 = 60, not 15. What are you trying to say here? Your statement can be
proven to make
no sense.
Are you so brave to provide for us evidence against your own theoretical position?
I have no such evidence. The real question is, do
you (or anyone else) have any evidence against my position?