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Should homosexual couples have the right to marriage in the United States?

Yes
44 (77.2%)
No
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #210 on: November 20, 2008, 02:05:29 PM »
oh no communists!  :o

As for the rest of your drivel I don't care. I got your analogy, I was appalled at how poorly constructed it was. It had no real parallel to the current situation. It was more forced that your girlfriends last orgasm.

I really don't understand where you are going with this, you don't care if gays are married because it'd mean nothing, but you don't want them "married" by a judge is the only distinction your idea has made.

History has plenty of meaning to me. I just simply know history extends more than 6,000 years and includes places with different beliefs than me.

You didnt get it, quit acting like you did.

I dont have a girlfriend I have a wife. Nice assumption though. You sure prove yourself to be one hell of a hypocrite dont you.

And where did I say I dont want homosexuals "married" by a judge?  All I have said is that they can get a civil union license from a judge, just not a marriage license. Same with hetero's.


And you dont know that history extends more than 6000 years. You have know proof of that. All you have is a bunch of biological assumptions. I am not saying that the earth is only 6000 years old, I really dont know. But we can only know actual history from the start of the written word.  Everything else is just speculation without an actual observation.

Socrates proves to be correct again. Man that guy was sexy (not in a homosexual way)

lol i did get it. I actually made no assumption, i used girlfriend in the sense of a girl that is your friend. If you aren't friends with your wife I'm sorry for that.

I know you didn't say you don't want homosexuals "married by a judge" but if you total up the changes you made, that would be the only result, the only real change in what is happening.

That analogy really does suck though, homosexuals aren't trying to claim they are straight, they are trying to marry the person they love. A better analogy would be if you tried to celebrate quanza. Which you could link because it is a cultural thing, and you would be trying to put yourself into a culture you don't belong.

OH my

I know for a fact you did not get my point. My analogy was not that of a homosexual claiming to be straight. It was that of a homosexual claiming to be "married" even though my religious definition of marriage is that between a man and a woman. It offense to us.  Now do you finally get it or do you want to keep assuming you do when you dont?


And please dont tell me you meant girl friend as an actual friend. That would make no sense in the context you tried to use it.

Whatever. Im done. There is nothing to be gained by this discussion.

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Shaydawg

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #211 on: November 20, 2008, 02:07:34 PM »
In my beliefs animals are not held accountable for sin. They do not play by the same rules that we as humans do. I believe that humans have a soul whereas animals do not.
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What are you questioning?

Please dont tell me you think the statement I made adheres only to Christianity for justification of your own assumption.
That statement is elitist, you're a bit slow aren't you?

lol

You are saying my statement was elitist because I dont believe that animals are equal to humans? Ok sure, Im elitist then, because I dont think they are equal.


I believe in hunting

I like steak and pork and chicken.

More of me being elitist.

LMAO

This is funny.

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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #212 on: November 20, 2008, 02:11:21 PM »
oh no communists!  :o

As for the rest of your drivel I don't care. I got your analogy, I was appalled at how poorly constructed it was. It had no real parallel to the current situation. It was more forced that your girlfriends last orgasm.

I really don't understand where you are going with this, you don't care if gays are married because it'd mean nothing, but you don't want them "married" by a judge is the only distinction your idea has made.

History has plenty of meaning to me. I just simply know history extends more than 6,000 years and includes places with different beliefs than me.

You didnt get it, quit acting like you did.

I dont have a girlfriend I have a wife. Nice assumption though. You sure prove yourself to be one hell of a hypocrite dont you.

And where did I say I dont want homosexuals "married" by a judge?  All I have said is that they can get a civil union license from a judge, just not a marriage license. Same with hetero's.


And you dont know that history extends more than 6000 years. You have know proof of that. All you have is a bunch of biological assumptions. I am not saying that the earth is only 6000 years old, I really dont know. But we can only know actual history from the start of the written word.  Everything else is just speculation without an actual observation.

Socrates proves to be correct again. Man that guy was sexy (not in a homosexual way)

lol i did get it. I actually made no assumption, i used girlfriend in the sense of a girl that is your friend. If you aren't friends with your wife I'm sorry for that.

I know you didn't say you don't want homosexuals "married by a judge" but if you total up the changes you made, that would be the only result, the only real change in what is happening.

That analogy really does suck though, homosexuals aren't trying to claim they are straight, they are trying to marry the person they love. A better analogy would be if you tried to celebrate quanza. Which you could link because it is a cultural thing, and you would be trying to put yourself into a culture you don't belong.

OH my

I know for a fact you did not get my point. My analogy was not that of a homosexual claiming to be straight. It was that of a homosexual claiming to be "married" even though my religious definition of marriage is that between a man and a woman. It offense to us.  Now do you finally get it or do you want to keep assuming you do when you dont?


And please dont tell me you meant girl friend as an actual friend. That would make no sense in the context you tried to use it.

Whatever. Im done. There is nothing to be gained by this discussion.

I got what you meant. Marriage isn't the same as race, it is an institution not a set of genes. Hence horrible analogy.

Again, marriage is not the domain of christianity. Get that through your head. It existed before, it existed outside of it, and it will exist after it if christianity ever dies out.

You can't have sex with a friend?

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Dead Kangaroo

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #213 on: November 20, 2008, 02:14:15 PM »
In my beliefs animals are not held accountable for sin. They do not play by the same rules that we as humans do. I believe that humans have a soul whereas animals do not.
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What are you questioning?

Please dont tell me you think the statement I made adheres only to Christianity for justification of your own assumption.
That statement is elitist, you're a bit slow aren't you?
I believe in hunting

I like steak and pork and chicken.
Large Carnivores (lions, killer whales etc) could think the same of humans they have hunted and went I can eat and enjoy this meat, does that make that human victim without a soul?

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Shaydawg

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #214 on: November 20, 2008, 02:39:17 PM »
In my beliefs animals are not held accountable for sin. They do not play by the same rules that we as humans do. I believe that humans have a soul whereas animals do not.
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What are you questioning?

Please dont tell me you think the statement I made adheres only to Christianity for justification of your own assumption.
That statement is elitist, you're a bit slow aren't you?
I believe in hunting

I like steak and pork and chicken.
Large Carnivores (lions, killer whales etc) could think the same of humans they have hunted and went I can eat and enjoy this meat, does that make that human victim without a soul?

I dont care if Lions and Whales think that or not.  I can fire a bozooka and end them.  Fuck them if they want to step to me, I'll throw a rocket cap in their ass.


I think it is obvious that humans are the elite species on this planet and rule it how they see fit. You dont see a den of Lions starting their own country.

HUMANS! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!

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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #215 on: November 20, 2008, 02:42:21 PM »
In my beliefs animals are not held accountable for sin. They do not play by the same rules that we as humans do. I believe that humans have a soul whereas animals do not.
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What are you questioning?

Please dont tell me you think the statement I made adheres only to Christianity for justification of your own assumption.
That statement is elitist, you're a bit slow aren't you?
I believe in hunting

I like steak and pork and chicken.
Large Carnivores (lions, killer whales etc) could think the same of humans they have hunted and went I can eat and enjoy this meat, does that make that human victim without a soul?

I dont care if Lions and Whales think that or not.  I can fire a bozooka and end them.  Fuck them if they want to step to me, I'll throw a rocket cap in their ass.


I think it is obvious that humans are the elite species on this planet and rule it how they see fit. You dont see a den of Lions starting their own country.

HUMANS! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!

Yet I doubt you could construct a rocket launcher. Hell if you had nothing made by other people, I doubt you could build a spear to defend yourself from a lion.

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Dead Kangaroo

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #216 on: November 20, 2008, 02:56:56 PM »
In my beliefs animals are not held accountable for sin. They do not play by the same rules that we as humans do. I believe that humans have a soul whereas animals do not.
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What are you questioning?

Please dont tell me you think the statement I made adheres only to Christianity for justification of your own assumption.
That statement is elitist, you're a bit slow aren't you?
I believe in hunting

I like steak and pork and chicken.
Large Carnivores (lions, killer whales etc) could think the same of humans they have hunted and went I can eat and enjoy this meat, does that make that human victim without a soul?

I dont care if Lions and Whales think that or not.  I can fire a bozooka and end them.  Fuck them if they want to step to me, I'll throw a rocket cap in their ass.


I think it is obvious that humans are the elite species on this planet and rule it how they see fit. You dont see a den of Lions starting their own country.

HUMANS! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!
It is clear that you have little reasoning skills, it's been nice talking to you.

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Recusant

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #217 on: November 20, 2008, 05:30:17 PM »
So because I have a religious belief (which I have never said was Christianity, you just assumed) then that means that my point of view is "elitist"
You are a self-proclaimed Calvinist. No assumption necessary.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #218 on: November 20, 2008, 05:30:51 PM »
Proposition 8, or Proposition H8?

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Recusant

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #219 on: November 20, 2008, 05:32:13 PM »
Preparation H.
"Philosophy wasn't the same. The school had to be completely changed, but it could be changed because we had learned our lesson."
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #220 on: November 20, 2008, 05:34:41 PM »
No, I say Proposition H8.  See what I did there?  It's clever.

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Recusant

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #221 on: November 20, 2008, 05:55:19 PM »
Kind of rich coming from a former dictator who criminalised homosexuality.
"Philosophy wasn't the same. The school had to be completely changed, but it could be changed because we had learned our lesson."
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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #222 on: November 20, 2008, 06:26:05 PM »
Kind of rich coming from a former dictator who criminalised homosexuality.

Only to please the majority. Saddam was only a muslim for show.

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Recusant

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #223 on: November 20, 2008, 06:36:20 PM »
Kind of rich coming from a former dictator who criminalised homosexuality.

Only to please the majority. Saddam was only a muslim for show.
Oh, well, that makes it okay then.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #224 on: November 21, 2008, 03:44:23 PM »
Indeed.  I was a poser.

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Ali Hassan al-Majid

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #225 on: November 21, 2008, 07:06:00 PM »
Saddam! Kaifa haluka, rafiq? It's been years! I'm pleased to find you still alive despite recent events. How have you been holding up?
Former Iraqi Defense Minister, Interior Minister, military commander and chief of the Iraqi Intelligence Service. Also the governor of occupied Kuwait during the Gulf War.

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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #226 on: November 22, 2008, 10:02:22 AM »
Saddam! Kaifa haluka, rafiq? It's been years! I'm pleased to find you still alive despite recent events. How have you been holding up?

He died, quit talking to him.

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Dead Kangaroo

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #227 on: November 22, 2008, 02:56:44 PM »
It's just NASA Agent using an alt to talk to an alt.

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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #228 on: November 22, 2008, 04:02:00 PM »
Saddam! Kaifa haluka, rafiq? It's been years! I'm pleased to find you still alive despite recent events. How have you been holding up?

Is that really you, Ali?  How did you get on the Internet?  You're supposed to be on death row!

NOTE: This is not my alt.  I swear by Earth: Not A Globe.

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General Douchebag

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #229 on: November 22, 2008, 04:06:21 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #230 on: November 22, 2008, 04:38:51 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.

It isn't saddam. It's someone elses retarded alt. It talked to abdul first, which is the cool thing to do.

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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #231 on: November 22, 2008, 05:25:17 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.

Exactly.  You don't swear by ENaG lightly.

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ILiekMudkips

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #232 on: November 22, 2008, 05:34:06 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.

Exactly.  You don't swear by ENaG lightly.

Sorry, it's me.

o_0

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KingMan

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #233 on: November 22, 2008, 05:34:58 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.
I hate myself for coming here

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ILiekMudkips

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #234 on: November 22, 2008, 05:35:41 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?

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KingMan

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #235 on: November 22, 2008, 05:37:10 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?
I meant that it was a dumb comment.
I hate myself for coming here

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ILiekMudkips

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #236 on: November 22, 2008, 05:40:39 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?
I meant that it was a dumb comment.
Yeah it is, fuckin a book is dumb dumb dumb.

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KingMan

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #237 on: November 22, 2008, 07:24:58 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?
I meant that it was a dumb comment.
Yeah it is, fuckin a book is dumb dumb dumb.
You would know.
I hate myself for coming here

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Raist

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #238 on: November 22, 2008, 07:27:19 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?
I meant that it was a dumb comment.
Yeah it is, fuckin a book is dumb dumb dumb.
You would know.

A book wouldn't fit in down there. Vaginas are small.

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ILiekMudkips

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #239 on: November 22, 2008, 10:14:42 PM »
Are you sure? That's a serious thing, ENaG is like the Bible but true.
Fuck That.

How do you fuck  book?
I meant that it was a dumb comment.
Yeah it is, fuckin a book is dumb dumb dumb.
You would know.

A book wouldn't fit in down there. Vaginas are small.

How do you know I have a vagina?