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Should homosexual couples have the right to marriage in the United States?

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Trekky0623

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Proposition 8
« on: November 11, 2008, 06:11:25 AM »
Now, because of this proposition, homosexual couples no longer have the right to marry.  In Arkansas in particular, homosexual couples cannot adopt children.  Do you agree or disagree with this proposition?  Discuss.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 07:46:57 AM »
they should have every right that every other person does.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 08:40:19 AM »
I think the question is a matter of definition and not necessarily rights. Most American discourse I've heard takes the form of acceptance of gay civil unions, but not their marriage. I don't see how attempting to maintain the classical definition of marriage, purely for the sake of that definition, is in anyway a good.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 08:47:29 AM »
I think it's disgraceful that loving, caring gay couples are forbidden from adopting children when any horny sl*t can pop out more than she can look after and leave them unloved. Makes fecking sense to me.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 08:57:27 AM »
Gay couples should be allowed to marry, but not to adopt children if there are equally qualified heterosexual couples wishing to adopt the same baby. This should be done to give children the most natural upbringing possible.
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Vauxhall

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 08:58:19 AM »
Stupid question.

Quote from: Robosteve on November 11, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Gay couples should be allowed to marry, but not to adopt children if there are equally qualified heterosexual couples wishing to adopt the same baby. This should be done to give children the most natural upbringing possible.

And, do you have any evidence that being brought up by a gay couple is bad? I don't think it will affect the child's ability to do normal adult shit when it grows up.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2008, 09:07:15 AM by Vauxhall »
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 09:04:26 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on November 11, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Gay couples should be allowed to marry, but not to adopt children if there are equally qualified heterosexual couples wishing to adopt the same baby. This should be done to give children the most natural upbringing possible.

That won't be a problem when (in the UK at least, not sure about America, though I gather it is largely the same) there are so many children needing adopted or foster parents.

Also what do you mean by 'most natural'? surely that is running naked through the forests hunting wild beasts and living in trees and caves?
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 09:19:36 AM »
70% of the black people that voted for prop 8 voted for it.. The oppressed, when given the opportunity to oppress, will take it. How pathetic.

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1378391.html
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 08:50:53 AM by Vauxhall »
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 09:27:15 AM »
Quote from: Vauxhall on November 11, 2008, 09:19:36 AM
70% of black people voted for prop 8. The oppressed, when given the opportunity to oppress, will take it. How pathetic.

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1378391.html


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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 09:27:44 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on November 11, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Gay couples should be allowed to marry, but not to adopt children if there are equally qualified heterosexual couples wishing to adopt the same baby. This should be done to give children the most natural upbringing possible.

Hi, lrn2gayhavingchildrentypesituation.
 What about surrogacy? Are you going to ban them from that as well?
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Trekky0623

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 09:46:47 AM »
Quote from: monkeybradders on November 11, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: Robosteve on November 11, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Gay couples should be allowed to marry, but not to adopt children if there are equally qualified heterosexual couples wishing to adopt the same baby. This should be done to give children the most natural upbringing possible.

Hi, lrn2gayhavingchildrentypesituation.
 What about surrogacy? Are you going to ban them from that as well?

WTF does that even say?

lrn2gay|having|children|type|situation

Is that correct?

lrn2speak
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KingMan

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 03:59:47 PM »
I voted no. I know this makes me a major hypocrite, but I don't have as much of a problem with lesbians as I do gay men. I think it is because I can't blame them, after all, women are hot! But I don't get why a dude would want to be with another dude.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 04:07:23 PM »
Quote from: KingMan on November 11, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
I voted no. I know this makes me a major hypocrite, but I don't have as much of a problem with lesbians as I do gay men. I think it is because I can't blame them, after all, women are hot! But I don't get why a dude would want to be with another dude.

Please tell me you're kidding.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 04:10:39 PM »
Quote from: KingMan on November 11, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
I voted no. I know this makes me a major hypocrite, but I don't have as much of a problem with lesbians as I do gay men. I think it is because I can't blame them, after all, women are hot! But I don't get why a dude would want to be with another dude.


???

That's not the question.  Should homosexuals (both gay men and lesbian women) have marital rights?
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 04:11:49 PM »
Quote from: KingMan on November 11, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
I voted no. I know this makes me a major hypocrite, but I don't have as much of a problem with lesbians as I do gay men. I think it is because I can't blame them, after all, women are hot! But I don't get why a dude would want to be with another dude.

You are an orangutan who is evidently incapable of rational thought. gb2thezoo
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Quote from: Ævan on August 11, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 04:13:30 PM »
Daughtry and McDonald appear to be in agreement with me.  Why the hell should your bigoted preconceptions judge the rights of others?  How fucking arrogant is that?
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 04:18:06 PM »
Florida passed a similar amendment.  It can effect straight couples too, cause it's defending marriage, lol.  It's religious homophobic bullshit.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Florida_Marriage_Amendment_(2008)
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This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.

To answer the OP, I think gays should have the same rights as everyone else.  They aren't harming anyone by marrying.  
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I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 04:24:14 PM »
Personally i don't care what gay people do, as long as they don't force their beliefs upon others.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 04:33:47 PM »
You mean, so long as they don't rape you?  cause gay isn't a belief.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 04:35:32 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 11, 2008, 04:13:30 PM
Daughtry and McDonald appear to be in agreement with me.  Why the hell should your bigoted preconceptions judge the rights of others?  How fucking arrogant is that?

Who the fuck is McDonald?
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 04:37:44 PM »
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 04:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 11, 2008, 04:33:47 PM
You mean, so long as they don't rape you?  cause gay isn't a belief.
Basically.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 05:00:42 PM »
Same sex marriage: No different than straight marriages.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2008, 05:39:35 PM »
I have only one thing to say about this.



PENIS GOES IN VAGINA




or ass, or vaginas rub together in a hawt hawt hawt way. I really have nothing against fags.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2008, 05:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Raist on November 11, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
I really have nothing against fags.

You would say that. Fag.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2008, 05:41:58 PM »
Quote from: Allie on November 11, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
Same sex marriage: No different than straight marriages.

Wrong.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2008, 05:42:52 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on November 11, 2008, 05:41:00 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 11, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
I really have nothing against fags.

You would say that. Fag.
Don't be jealous. You just wish you could have a piece.  :-*
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2008, 05:44:51 PM »
Quote from: Trekky0623 on November 11, 2008, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 11, 2008, 04:13:30 PM
Daughtry and McDonald appear to be in agreement with me.  Why the hell should your bigoted preconceptions judge the rights of others?  How fucking arrogant is that?

Who the fuck is McDonald?

Robosteve.  Lurk moar.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2008, 05:56:25 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 11, 2008, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Allie on November 11, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
Same sex marriage: No different than straight marriages.

Wrong.

What the fuck is so wrong about that statement? Two people, regardless of gender, sharing enough love for each other to have the desire to spend the rest of their lives together.  I don't see the difference.
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Re: Proposition 8
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2008, 06:10:38 PM »
I love how Republicans don't want the gov't to tell you what doctor, school, stocks you have to go or invest in. They don't like a big gov't controlling you lives but they're more then happy to have the gov't be able to tell you who you can and cannot marry and if women have the right to an abortion.
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