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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 24, 2009, 07:42:00 AM »

do you have evidence the sheep herders heads would explode?

Like you have proof for a single one of your beliefs?  Please. 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: New Idea on Sunrise/Sunsets

« on: December 23, 2009, 05:20:33 PM »

Read the Wiki. There's a picture with car headlights which remain the same size into the distance.

This is your evidence that our perception of the sun is a projection on the atmosphere?  Can you explain in depth how it relates?

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Flat Earth General / Motive for RE conspiracy

« on: December 23, 2009, 05:14:01 PM »

So if there is a conspiracy, there must be a pretty significant motive for this to occur.  Who benefits from the RE conspiracy theory that all of us . . . brainwashed I think is the term Tom Bishop uses, believe is true?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: New Idea on Sunrise/Sunsets

« on: December 23, 2009, 05:06:00 PM »

Tom, I jsut figured out a way for you yourself to disprove your glare idea.

Take a photo of the moon low on the horizon. then retake it but reduce the apeture to reduce glare.

NOTICE THE SIZE OF THE MOON DOSEN'T THEN SHRINK.

It's a projection on the atmosphere. It has nothing to do with the lens used.

Cite evidence please.  Or run away.  Whichever is easier.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat Earth Theory is Officially Woo

« on: December 23, 2009, 05:00:13 PM »

We are the scientists. You are not.

Where did you get your degree?  Seminary?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: New Idea on Sunrise/Sunsets

« on: December 23, 2009, 04:55:56 PM »

Your explainations are so strange

Truth is a strange concept to the brainwashed.

What an astute observation.  What does it feel like to build a wall of belief around yourself?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Scientific Review of FET

« on: December 23, 2009, 04:52:31 PM »

Hopefully this will clear some more things up
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.0

No, I don't think that makes it any clearer.  For me, it only confuses the issue.  Why would I find the Bronze age conception of the universe compelling?  Do any believers here have any credentials?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof that FE'ers are wrong.

« on: December 23, 2009, 04:37:16 PM »

So the FE'ers say there is no gravity? What keeps us here, on the ground is that the Earth is constantly accelerating.

So if I jump of a tall building, I would not infact move. I would not fall to my death, rather I would be stationary and the Earth would just slam into me. So how is the wind generated, well rather, why is there resistance? My hair would blowing, my clothes would be blowing up because of the resistance. But supposedly, I'm not moving. If there is no gravity, I should be floating there with no resistance and my hair, clothes, etc would not be blowen upwards. So where does this resistance come from?

I'm new, but I believe the air is also being accelerated upward. Wind resistance and what-not is still in effect. The acceleration is a constant on all molecules and particles on Earth.

Correct me if I am wrong, Flat Earthers (although, I think they may be quite tired of this topic  )

Ah ok. Makes sense I guess.

No, it makes no sense what so ever.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 23, 2009, 04:35:36 PM »

There is no such thing as a "true Christian"!

And the bible, even Genesis, is assumed to be written long after the death of Christ.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Genesis.html

And still, modern science beats the bible at almost every turn.  Actual evidence is presented, and conclusions are drawn from that.

The bible does not mention dinosaurs at all.  Not one single bit. You'd think they'd crop up somewhere if they co existed with Humans...




I do hope you're trollin...

The site you quoted claims Genesis appeared in the 15 century BC. That would mean, um, a bit before Christ.

You are right, the bible does not mention dinosaurs at all. But why would it bother to mention the obvious if they were abundant and everywhere? The Koran makes no mention of camels. Do you think there were no camels in Arabia in the 7th century? In fact, as has been noted, the absence of camels in the Koran is good proof that it was an authentic Arabic work.

Ah, you're right on that one.  I just saw 1440 and assumed AD.  Looks like I ought to read my sources first...  Sorry bout that!  I'll go edit my post...

Right then.  Onto a proper post!
Regardless of what is and isn't mentioned in the Bible, the evidence is there that dinos existed, and went extinct, a good 65 million years before humans came about. 

I suspect that humans hunted and ate the dinos into extinction, much like we are about to eat all the fish into extinction.

And the wealth of geological evidence counts for nothing?

I suppose if you don't believe in God then your assumption would be that everything that has happened to the earth has been entirely natural. But God has intervened in the world. Raining frogs for instance. Flooding the entire earth.  God has perturbed the earth a bit, particularly way back when. The geological record makes the earth look a lot older than it really is. If you find evidence of something older than the age of the earth, then either the evidence is wrong or the age of the earth is wrong. An atheist will say the age of the earth according to the bible is wrong. A believer will say the evidence is wrong. I disagree with the "evidence" on faith based grounds.    

Actually, it might surprise you to learn that the Bible does not have any dates recorded for the beginning of what you call "creation".  It might also surprise you to learn that there are many forms of writing in the Bible, and not everything was meant to be understood literally.  Let's presume that god exists.  How would god explain what we now understand as theoretical physics to bronze age sheep herders?  If god actually explained it to them in depth, their heads would explode.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 23, 2009, 04:28:55 PM »

I think this is pretty basic math here. Non-parallel lines in 2D must intersect.

Huh?  Why do you equate living beings to infinate lines?

Humans have existed from the first week of creation up until the present. Dinosaurs existed at some point. Ergo, they must have co-existed at some point.

How do you know that Dinosaurs existed at some point?

Why can't you think of them as lines? OK, I'll drop the math if you can't follow it.

Humans have existed in an unbroken line across time from the week of creation up until the present. Dino's existed at some point in that same period of time. Thus they must have co-existed. Granted, I can't prove dinos existed at all, but if assume they existed at all you must assume they co-existed with humans at some point.

Oh, no the concept is very simplistic.  It's easy to comprehend the analogy.  I just think the analogy is poor, so I was curious why finite beings would be represented as infinity in your mind.

So you do assume that they existed?  Can you tell me why this assumption formed in your mind?

I'm also assuming that since you failed to answer my question about your literacy of Hebrew, that you know none.  Is this accurate?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 23, 2009, 02:44:29 PM »

Modern day Christians who consider the book of genesis to be metaphor are not true Christians. Don't you think the original readers of the bible, even before the time of Christ, took the book of genesis literally? Why would God want the bible to have one meaning for believers living in one time period but a different, metaphoric meaning for believers living at another time? If the bible keeps changing meaning over time, what is the point?

I'm sure you are fluent in Hebrew then if the original message of the Bible is so important to you.  Yes?

Please answer my other questions.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 23, 2009, 02:28:02 PM »

I think this is pretty basic math here. Non-parallel lines in 2D must intersect.

Huh?  Why do you equate living beings to infinate lines?

Humans have existed from the first week of creation up until the present. Dinosaurs existed at some point. Ergo, they must have co-existed at some point.

How do you know that Dinosaurs existed at some point?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

« on: December 23, 2009, 02:18:31 PM »

James, dinosaurs clearly existed even way back in biblical times.

Your definition of clear, must be vastly different than mine.

Do you believe that dinosaurs appeared during the middle-ages, ate all the humans, and then humans evolved? Something like that?

Your sentence is not even coherent.  There is no way that humans existed at the same time of dinosaurs.  Even if you really really believe it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Proof that FE'ers are wrong.

« on: December 23, 2009, 02:15:24 PM »

Regrettably, for both sides, the equivalence principle means that every more or less every comprehensible feature of aerodynamics, weather and so on require similar (often identical) levels of explanatory power in either model. This is because globularist science is designed to mimic as best it can the observable phenomena whilst maintaining the lie of the spherical Earth, so most of their bases are covered. Most of the FE bases are covered because they do indeed accurately report observable phenomena (i.e., the theories of Flat Earthers are by and large correct, since they are empirically derived).

FE is empirically derived?  I don't know if making shit up counts as an empirical observation.