What do FE'ers think of dinosaurs?

Keep all religious discussions in Philosophy, Religion & Society, please.

Keep all religious discussions in Philosophy, Religion & Society, please.

That doesn't make sense. Some of us are FEer's because of religion. So, what? All my posts should go under religion?

Yes.

Because this entire thread, and your entire argument isn't based on any sort of evidence at all, it's based on something you read in a fictional book. If you don't like that statement, or disagree with it, you're on the wrong website. Get used to it, you'll get it a lot.

Yes.

Because this entire thread, and your entire argument isn't based on any sort of evidence at all, it's based on something you read in a fictional book. If you don't like that statement, or disagree with it, you're on the wrong website. Get used to it, you'll get it a lot.

So you are calling the bible a "fictional book"?? Then why doesn't your post go under Atheism? ?And how can we have a discussion if my posts go under Religion and your posts go under Atheism? Where is the Atheism subheading anyway? Is religious thought considered so arcane (or offensive) here that it must go in its own hole? WTF?

OK, I won't comment on the shape of the earth here anymore, since all my ideas are religiously motivated. But go ahead and let the athiestically motivated ideas stay. Those are the one's than contribute to dialogue. Forget anyone with another point of view, however traditional it might be.

do you have evidence the sheep herders heads would explode?

Like you have proof for a single one of your beliefs?  Please. 

Quote from: Dino on December 23, 2009, 05:45:21 PM

do you have evidence the sheep herders heads would explode?

Like you have proof for a single one of your beliefs?  Please. 

I need proof to show that I believe something? How would one even go about that?

No, you don't need proof that you believe something. You need to show proof that what you've said is true.

You need to show proof that what you've said is true.

Uh, yeah, agree. I think that would be the definition of proof. You are speaking in circles.

No i'm not. My mates 3 year old child believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny. Doesn't make it true.

No i'm not. My mates 3 year old child believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny. Doesn't make it true.

And your unassailable belief in a round earth doesn't make it true.   

Quote from: d00gz on December 24, 2009, 01:31:11 PM

No i'm not. My mates 3 year old child believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny. Doesn't make it true.

And your unassailable belief in a round earth doesn't make it true.   

However, the wealth of actual evidence proves it to be true.  It just so happens that a small minority choose to reject this evidence.

This isn't much of an argument. This is more of a back and forth of: yes, it is. no, it isn't.

This isn't much of an argument. This is more of a back and forth of: yes, it is. no, it isn't.

Half the problem is that your argument against RE is a religious one, and religious discussions go in the religion thread.  Most of us RE'ers are happy to give a run down of the evidence, should you want it.  No doubt, you've heard it/seen it/been taught it all before though.

Quote from: Dino on December 24, 2009, 03:34:42 PM

This isn't much of an argument. This is more of a back and forth of: yes, it is. no, it isn't.

Half the problem is that your argument against RE is a religious one, and religious discussions go in the religion thread.

No it isn't.

Sorry but your religion isn't the only nor the right one as far as we know. Can't be proved so it should be discussed away from science.


Curious but what technology did dinosaurs have that they completely destroyed before they died?

Sorry but your religion isn't the only nor the right one as far as we know. Can't be proved so it should be discussed away from science.


Curious but what technology did dinosaurs have that they completely destroyed before they died?

I am an atheist.

In answer to your second question: boats, agriculture and fishing.

Quote from: ugaboga313 on December 26, 2009, 08:55:16 PM

Sorry but your religion isn't the only nor the right one as far as we know. Can't be proved so it should be discussed away from science.


Curious but what technology did dinosaurs have that they completely destroyed before they died?

I am an atheist.

In answer to your second question: boats, agriculture and fishing.

At the risk of sounding silly, do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this theory?

Sorry but we have found none of this technology so right now it is your word. I think dinosaurs were actually the master race but god struck them down (joking).


But yea there is no evidence of it. How would the boats work? How did the dinosaurs get advanced enough to completely eradicate all of their technology? This is a theory with 0 evidence and basically just you. Science usually doesn't like that.

Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, not 6,000 years ago as most christians believe. Carbon dating proves this. Some christians argue the viability of these tests, but what they don't think of is that we have never carbon tested a dinosaur fossil and come up with the results of it being only a couple of thousand years old, and vice versa, we have never tested human bones and came up with the results that they were millions of years old.

In conclusion, dinosaurs lived here millions of years before man was ever here, and the Earth is not only 6,000 years old. I don't know what that has to do with the title of this thread since I'm a RE'er, but I thought I would throw my teo cents in.

Sorry but we have found none of this technology so right now it is your word. I think dinosaurs were actually the master race but god struck them down (joking).

It's not a very funny joke! Don't quit your day job and become a comedian, because you will starve.

But yea there is no evidence of it. How would the boats work? How did the dinosaurs get advanced enough to completely eradicate all of their technology? This is a theory with 0 evidence and basically just you. Science usually doesn't like that.

How would boats work? Are you serious? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boat#Buoyancy

The dinosaurs got advanced enough by natural selection, just like humans did. The dinosaurs had countless millenia more to do so, too.

The theory is supported by extensive fossil evidence.

Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, not 6,000 years ago as most christians believe. Carbon dating proves this. Some christians argue the viability of these tests, but what they don't think of is that we have never carbon tested a dinosaur fossil and come up with the results of it being only a couple of thousand years old, and vice versa, we have never tested human bones and came up with the results that they were millions of years old.

I'm not disputing that the dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. Get your facts straight.

I'm not disputing that the dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. Get your facts straight.

Huh? What makes you think that was directed at you? I was just stating my opinion to everyone who wanted to read. It wasn't directed at any one person.

Quote from: James on December 28, 2009, 11:32:09 AM

I'm not disputing that the dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. Get your facts straight.

Huh? What makes you think that was directed at you? I was just stating my opinion to everyone who wanted to read. It wasn't directed at any one person.

In that case, I apologise.

Link me to this fossil evidence of technology. How would T-Rexs use boats? No one had opposable thumbs so it would be pretty hard to work tools

Link me to this fossil evidence of technology. How would T-Rexs use boats? No one had opposable thumbs so it would be pretty hard to work tools

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg707661#msg707661
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg730656#msg730656
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg708894#msg708894


"James's theory on dinosaurs", 26 pages, November 2009
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=34168.0

"What about the Dinosuars", 21 pages, May 2009
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.0

"continental drifting", 16 pages, August 2008
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=21863.0

"antartica", 18 pages, June 2006
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2739.0

The question of opposable thumbs has been put to direct empirical experiment, and the results have fallen on the side of Flat Earther.

One, the continents were in different spots 65 million years ago. Two this is all from you which doesn't change anything. 3 give me a fossil of a boat or something. Until then its just conjecture. It could have happened but you cannot confirm it.

I'm sorry, but the dinosaurs certainly did not co-exist with humans. Your faith may compel you to believe it, but I am afraid the evidence does not.

And you're right, the dinosaurs were not killed by a giant meteor. Some overpopulated themselves, others may have destroyed themselves with their own technology, others still evolved into the birds we see around us today.

dino technology now huh? LOL

Quote from: Rasta on December 23, 2009, 02:18:31 PM

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James, dinosaurs clearly existed even way back in biblical times.

Your definition of clear, must be vastly different than mine.

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Do you believe that dinosaurs appeared during the middle-ages, ate all the humans, and then humans evolved? Something like that?

Your sentence is not even coherent.  There is no way that humans existed at the same time of dinosaurs.  Even if you really really believe it.

I think this is pretty basic math here. Non-parallel lines in 2D must intersect. Humans have existed from the first week of creation up until the present. Dinosaurs existed at some point. Ergo, they must have co-existed at some point. 

Interesting.  Maybe the dinosaurs had a different religious belief than the christians of the day did, and like all good christians of the past did-when confronted with a society of people with different beliefs- they tried to convert them and when met with resistance slaughtered them.  I believe they were the Chrichtonic Crusades.

Here is a question for evolutionists: If the dinosaurs evolved naturally and dominated the earth for a hundred million of years (according to science) and then were wiped out by a meteor or a volcanic dust cloud or whatever -- why didn't they re-evolve? Why did humans supposedly evolve instead? Think about it. If the dinosaurs were the fittest creatures on earth for so long--and became so do to a long natural process of evolution, shouldn't they have again beaten humans to the evolutionary punch, so to speak? In which case the monkeys would have never gotten out of the trees--or even in them, or they would have been eaten by a T-Rex. It makes more sense to believe that they coexisted, that humans were always dominant, and that the dinos were the prey and victim of man.

Because the conditions post-cataclysm were different than they were prior to the event and were more well suited to the survival of smaller land based animals.  Evolution allows the organisms best suited for a given set of conditions to prosper, not for that organism to be best suited for all environments and conditions.

Quote from: ugaboga313 on December 28, 2009, 11:47:50 AM

Link me to this fossil evidence of technology. How would T-Rexs use boats? No one had opposable thumbs so it would be pretty hard to work tools

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg707661#msg707661
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg730656#msg730656
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.msg708894#msg708894


"James's theory on dinosaurs", 26 pages, November 2009
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=34168.0

"What about the Dinosuars", 21 pages, May 2009
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29253.0

"continental drifting", 16 pages, August 2008
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=21863.0

"antartica", 18 pages, June 2006
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2739.0

How about a link to some evidence thats outside of this site. I need a credible source. Preferably even a statement from any sort of scientist that supports your theory in the slightest.

One, the continents were in different spots 65 million years ago. Two this is all from you which doesn't change anything. 3 give me a fossil of a boat or something. Until then its just conjecture. It could have happened but you cannot confirm it.

The continents were not in different spots 65 million years ago, that's the point.

How about a link to some evidence thats outside of this site. I need a credible source. Preferably even a statement from any sort of scientist that supports your theory in the slightest.

I am a scientist.