Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #330 on: March 27, 2023, 03:04:05 AM »

Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.

I'll tell you what they're not. They're not trillions of miles away burning giants.

So?  When a few millimeters of window glass blocks UV B to prevent sunburn, how is UV B radiation from the sun reaching earth to give me sunburns?  Especially if it’s reflected then passed through crystal?
Reflection.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #331 on: March 27, 2023, 03:09:07 AM »


You don't know that. The flat earth idea has intoxicated you. You're impaired.

How have you falsified the scientific explanation on this? Please don't say you got your light bulb moment whilst inside a planetarium, looking at the projector?
I got my moments from peeling away the layers of indoctrination of a global brain scattering.
The impairment is the global doctrine.
And the projector is a fantastic addition to what we are seeing from the dome.
You see it's all there in plain sight, you just have to want to see it.
Most don't because it's much easier to follow the pied pipers in comfort whilst not having to think outside of that following.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #332 on: March 27, 2023, 03:27:59 AM »

Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.

I'll tell you what they're not. They're not trillions of miles away burning giants.

So?  When a few millimeters of window glass blocks UV B to prevent sunburn, how is UV B radiation from the sun reaching earth to give me sunburns?  Especially if it’s reflected then passed through crystal?
Reflection.

How.  Your quote.

“Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.”

How is the UV radiation making it through the crystal?

Why doesn’t earth energy give me sun burns when underground?

How does the sun act as a single point source of radiation as expected from the fusion of hydrogen.

Why don’t we see multiple suns on the projection?



Why can’t we see the line of projection?



How does the sun have mass to affect comets and earth?  Along with the rest of the solar system?

There is zero proof the sun is a projection from some projector at another location. 

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #333 on: March 27, 2023, 03:33:35 AM »

Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.

I'll tell you what they're not. They're not trillions of miles away burning giants.

So?  When a few millimeters of window glass blocks UV B to prevent sunburn, how is UV B radiation from the sun reaching earth to give me sunburns?  Especially if it’s reflected then passed through crystal?
Reflection.


Off what?


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As a general rule, most mirrors will only reflect a very small amount of UV light as the glass on the front of them absorbs the majority. In saying this, mirrors that are made from polished aluminum can reflect as much as 80% of the UV light.

https://www.glassnmirrors.com/do-mirrors-reflect-uv-light/

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #334 on: March 27, 2023, 03:57:43 AM »
Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.
And that delusional garbage is based upon what? You needing to find an excuse to replace reality?

I'll tell you what they're not. They're not trillions of miles away burning giants.
Considering you have absolutely no idea what they are, you are not capable of honestly telling us what they are not.

Other than it not fitting your delusional fantasy, can you justify that claim at all?

I never said I'm right
You boldly asserted that you can tell us what they are not.
Are you saying that that was a lie, and that you can't tell us what they are not, at least not honestly, as you have no idea and could be entirely wrong and they could be, as you said "trillions of miles away burning giants."

I got my moments from peeling away the layers of indoctrination of a global brain scattering.
You mean by piling indoctrination and scattering your brain?

You have repeatedly failed to show any fault with the RE model. Instead your objections boil down to you don't like it or don't understand it.

And the projector is a fantastic addition to what we are seeing from the dome.
You could certainly say that:
adjective: fantastic
imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality.

Your dome certainly is imaginative and remote from reality.

You see it's all there in plain sight, you just have to want to see it.
i.e. it isn't there, and you just desperately need to want to see it, at which point you will pretend to see it because of how desperate you are.

If it was actually there, you wouldn't need to so desperately want to see it to be able to see it.

If I'm waiting to cross a road, I don't need to want to see the cars driving along to be able to see them. Even when I want to not see them, I can still see them.
It is only fantasy that requires you to want to see it to be able to "see" it.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #335 on: March 27, 2023, 04:29:53 AM »


You don't know that. The flat earth idea has intoxicated you. You're impaired.

How have you falsified the scientific explanation on this? Please don't say you got your light bulb moment whilst inside a planetarium, looking at the projector?
I got my moments from peeling away the layers of indoctrination of a global brain scattering.
The impairment is the global doctrine.
And the projector is a fantastic addition to what we are seeing from the dome.
You see it's all there in plain sight, you just have to want to see it.
Most don't because it's much easier to follow the pied pipers in comfort whilst not having to think outside of that following.

Ahh yes, the dome again. So, where's the projector, and who is operating it? The pixies? What powers it?

The flat Earth idea has the ability to bring the people who believe it, closer to God. It shrinks the entire universe to a dome covered circle and God close by and within listening distance.

But it's possible to be equally close to God without denying science and reality. The flat Earth idea is really ingrained upon your soul now, isn't it?

Can you not step back from it and see it as the monster it really is? Eating up all your time and energy, making you feel different and alien to everybody else, like you don't belong.......

How many Flat Earth friends will you lose if you turn your back on the flat earth idea?
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #336 on: March 27, 2023, 05:23:00 AM »

The flat Earth idea has the ability to bring the people who believe it, closer to God.

And yet for the biblical, they can’t point to in the Bible where salvation has anything to do with the shape of the earth…..




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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #337 on: March 27, 2023, 05:34:12 AM »
How is the UV radiation making it through the crystal?
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

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Why doesn’t earth energy give me sun burns when underground?
Because you're underground.

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How does the sun act as a single point source of radiation as expected from the fusion of hydrogen.
There is no fusion of hydrogen.

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Why don’t we see multiple suns on the projection?


You see multiple suns all over but they're the result of varying focal points  via the crystals with the main one (the sun) being the biggest projection and reflection.
The rest you see as points of light or a direct reflection upon reflection.
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Why can’t we see the line of projection?


You'll never see any line of projection from the centre. It's too far from your eyes and also you'll never see a projection from the side unless you have particles around it. It's fine for something close as you can see it amid particles in atmosphere.
Unless you mean something else.

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How does the sun have mass to affect comets and earth?
Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome and being carried by the vortex at high altitude where they disintegrate via friction burning and the time to disintegration will be determined by the mass of the icicle.

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Along with the rest of the solar system?
What solar system?
The solar system is inside the dome.
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There is zero proof the sun is a projection from some projector at another location.
To you there isn't. But then again there's no proof your sun is a near 1 million mile diameter, 93 million mile distant nuclear fusion reactor but you swallow it because the schooling teaches that and that's all you know of the story as your reality. Proving it is impossible and you're well aware of that.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #338 on: March 27, 2023, 05:35:46 AM »
Reflected light through cenralised crystal due to the central Earth energy we call the sun.
And that delusional garbage is based upon what? You needing to find an excuse to replace reality?

I'll tell you what they're not. They're not trillions of miles away burning giants.
Considering you have absolutely no idea what they are, you are not capable of honestly telling us what they are not.

Other than it not fitting your delusional fantasy, can you justify that claim at all?

I never said I'm right
You boldly asserted that you can tell us what they are not.
Are you saying that that was a lie, and that you can't tell us what they are not, at least not honestly, as you have no idea and could be entirely wrong and they could be, as you said "trillions of miles away burning giants."

I got my moments from peeling away the layers of indoctrination of a global brain scattering.
You mean by piling indoctrination and scattering your brain?

You have repeatedly failed to show any fault with the RE model. Instead your objections boil down to you don't like it or don't understand it.

And the projector is a fantastic addition to what we are seeing from the dome.
You could certainly say that:
adjective: fantastic
imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality.

Your dome certainly is imaginative and remote from reality.

You see it's all there in plain sight, you just have to want to see it.
i.e. it isn't there, and you just desperately need to want to see it, at which point you will pretend to see it because of how desperate you are.

If it was actually there, you wouldn't need to so desperately want to see it to be able to see it.

If I'm waiting to cross a road, I don't need to want to see the cars driving along to be able to see them. Even when I want to not see them, I can still see them.
It is only fantasy that requires you to want to see it to be able to "see" it.
Come back when you calm down.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #339 on: March 27, 2023, 05:48:08 AM »
Ahh yes, the dome again. So, where's the projector, and who is operating it? The pixies? What powers it?
The projector is in the centre. Nobody is operating it. It's a natural energy fed by Earth itself. A sealed unit of finite energy of a cell until the cell dies.

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The flat Earth idea has the ability to bring the people who believe it, closer to God.
 It shrinks the entire universe to a dome covered circle and God close by and within listening distance.
I don't believe in any god.
If you want an answer as to a god then earth is my god and the cells around Earth will be the bacteria that lives within those as their gods.
What those cells make up in an entirety is anyone's guess.


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But it's possible to be equally close to God without denying science and reality.
People can believe anything they wish in terms of gods and/or scientist explanations.

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The flat Earth idea is really ingrained upon your soul now, isn't it?
That depends on what you are imagining as you sat flat Earth.
There are many ideas.
The cell may help you where I'm cocnerned.

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Can you not step back from it and see it as the monster it really is?
Can you not step back and see your spinning globe as the monstrosity is really is?
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Eating up all your time and energy, making you feel different and alien to everybody else, like you don't belong.......
Life eats us all up second by second, hours by hour, day by day, week by week, year by year until we cease to be an organism.
This will happen whether you spend your life playing games, writing books, investigating crimes or reading written books or typing on an internet.
Life is never wasted, it's lived no matter what, whether you laugh or cry or worry.

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How many Flat Earth friends will you lose if you turn your back on the flat earth idea?
I won't lose any friends and I will never turn my back on my ideas unless I find  better ideas.
That accounts for us all no matter what it is we do in life.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #340 on: March 27, 2023, 06:14:18 AM »
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

Why can’t this be replicated in a lab? 


Because you're underground.


If in your delusion, “It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.“.

Why can’t the atmosphere in a cave be triggered to make UV radiation.  What element is missing. 
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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #341 on: March 27, 2023, 07:04:27 AM »

 Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome and being carried

If there is enough moisture to create sizable icicles in your delusion, then there would be enough moisture to show and interfere with the line of projection.

You’re some sort of troll.  Or just flat delusional. 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #342 on: March 27, 2023, 08:35:10 AM »
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

Really.  By what process and how can I do the same thing in a tank or tent of oxygen.
You can't.

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Because you're underground.
With atmosphere and earth energy? So why can’t I get sunburnt underground in a cave with atmosphere surrounded by earth energy. 
Because you're not in direct contact with the UV wavelength.

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There is no fusion of hydrogen.
Then where does the radiation, energy, charge particles consistent with the fission of hydrogen come from that is the sun.  Everything from solar flares to geomagnetic storms?
It's all fed into the centre by the vortex. It's a spiraling circuit feed in expel out.

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You see multiple suns all over but they're the result of varying focal points  via the crystals with the main one (the sun) being the biggest projection and reflection.
That’s not how a screen works.  Especially if it’s covered in ice which falls off.  I can watch the moon set in the west while the sun rises in the east.  There should be a double imagine of the sun in the west.  There should be a double moon in the east.
The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.




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You'll never see any line of projection from the centre.
There is dust in the atmosphere and dust and meritorious in space. The line of projection should be visible.
There is no space like you're told and the dust at the centre does not exist. It's a hydrogen/helium feed from a oxygen/water break down.


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Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome

Then they should be fracturing and distorting the projections. And showing the line of projection.
Nope.


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And still doesn’t explain why comet events are accurately predicted.
Why there are reoccurring comets like Halley's Comet.
 The well documented and proven path of comets in the solar system, and pivot about the sun.

Because the scopes used to see the dome will give a decent guide as to when icicles will break down and come loose.
We just get told some are the same comets and such to give us the giddy story of comets orbiting a solar system for 70 years until it returns when it's just another large icicle caught up in the vortex and told to us as being Halley's comet.


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 Or comets consumed by the sun.
You'll occasionally  bits of debris being consumed into the centre of the vortex.

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 And why comets have tails that grow in length as they approach the sun.
Merely more disintegration due to more friction turning hydrogen ice into gas.

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  They should be interacting with the line of projection.
Nope.

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What solar system?
The solar system is inside the dome.

Where planets and comets orbit about the sun.
Nothing orbits the sun because it's not a fiery space ball.

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To you there isn't. But then again there's no proof your sun is a near 1 million mile diameter, 93 million mile distant nuclear fusion reactor but you swallow it because the schooling teaches that and that's all you know of the story as your reality. Proving it is impossible and you're well aware of that.
You mean you don’t except the proven source of radiation and charge particles produced by the sun by fusion. 
Absolutely not. Not in the way we are told, no.

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The mass and gravity the sun exerts on comets, planets, and earth’s structure, and tides.
Gravity does not exist. You know my thoughts on that.
Planets do not exist, either.
Tides are merely pressure waves due to the change in atmosphere as the sun and moon reflections pass over and around.

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Or the effects of a solar eclipse and how a simple pinhole camera captures the event.
A solar eclipse is just a cancelling reflection.

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To the way sunlight can illuminate the bottom of clouds. 

Reflection once again.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #343 on: March 27, 2023, 08:36:36 AM »

 Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome and being carried

If there is enough moisture to create sizable icicles in your delusion, then there would be enough moisture to show and interfere with the line of projection.

You’re some sort of troll.  Or just flat delusional.
By all means use the word troll and any other that suits you when you can't gain any traction against me.


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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #344 on: March 27, 2023, 09:12:59 AM »
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

Why can’t this be replicated in a lab? 


Because you're underground.


If in your delusion, “It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.“.

Why can’t the atmosphere in a cave be triggered to make UV radiation.  What element is missing. 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #345 on: March 27, 2023, 09:18:36 AM »

It's all fed into the centre by the vortex. It's a spiraling circuit feed in expel out.



That does not explain where the power and reaction for the radiation, energy, and charge particles originates from.

Yours is a delusion with no explanation.

The spherical earth offers the solar system that works off as a predictable mechanism. 

Able to accurately predict comets and solar eclipses.

How are such phenomena in your delusion predicted, and predicted with any accuracy.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #346 on: March 27, 2023, 09:26:23 AM »

The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.



 Sorry.  That is not how a screen with a space below your delusional dome with enough moisture to create falling icicles would work.

If there was no ice, at the very least you would get this effect.


https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/do-two-mirrors-facing-each-other-produce-infinite-reflections/amp/








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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #347 on: March 27, 2023, 09:29:36 AM »

The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.



 How is the moon “is the direct reflection of the sun”.

That is nothing more than delusion.  It’s just stupid.  And not a credible statement other than the sun illuminates the moon and the other planets.   


And how does the moon have phases, and the sun is just the sun?  Along with the planet mercury having phases. 
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #348 on: March 27, 2023, 09:43:42 AM »
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

Really.  By what process and how can I do the same thing in a tank or tent of oxygen.
You can't.

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Because you're underground.
With atmosphere and earth energy? So why can’t I get sunburnt underground in a cave with atmosphere surrounded by earth energy. 
Because you're not in direct contact with the UV wavelength.

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There is no fusion of hydrogen.
Then where does the radiation, energy, charge particles consistent with the fission of hydrogen come from that is the sun.  Everything from solar flares to geomagnetic storms?
It's all fed into the centre by the vortex. It's a spiraling circuit feed in expel out.

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You see multiple suns all over but they're the result of varying focal points  via the crystals with the main one (the sun) being the biggest projection and reflection.
That’s not how a screen works.  Especially if it’s covered in ice which falls off.  I can watch the moon set in the west while the sun rises in the east.  There should be a double imagine of the sun in the west.  There should be a double moon in the east.
The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.




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You'll never see any line of projection from the centre.
There is dust in the atmosphere and dust and meritorious in space. The line of projection should be visible.
There is no space like you're told and the dust at the centre does not exist. It's a hydrogen/helium feed from a oxygen/water break down.


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Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome

Then they should be fracturing and distorting the projections. And showing the line of projection.
Nope.


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And still doesn’t explain why comet events are accurately predicted.
Why there are reoccurring comets like Halley's Comet.
 The well documented and proven path of comets in the solar system, and pivot about the sun.

Because the scopes used to see the dome will give a decent guide as to when icicles will break down and come loose.
We just get told some are the same comets and such to give us the giddy story of comets orbiting a solar system for 70 years until it returns when it's just another large icicle caught up in the vortex and told to us as being Halley's comet.


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 Or comets consumed by the sun.
You'll occasionally  bits of debris being consumed into the centre of the vortex.

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 And why comets have tails that grow in length as they approach the sun.
Merely more disintegration due to more friction turning hydrogen ice into gas.

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  They should be interacting with the line of projection.
Nope.

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What solar system?
The solar system is inside the dome.

Where planets and comets orbit about the sun.
Nothing orbits the sun because it's not a fiery space ball.

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To you there isn't. But then again there's no proof your sun is a near 1 million mile diameter, 93 million mile distant nuclear fusion reactor but you swallow it because the schooling teaches that and that's all you know of the story as your reality. Proving it is impossible and you're well aware of that.
You mean you don’t except the proven source of radiation and charge particles produced by the sun by fusion. 
Absolutely not. Not in the way we are told, no.

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The mass and gravity the sun exerts on comets, planets, and earth’s structure, and tides.
Gravity does not exist. You know my thoughts on that.
Planets do not exist, either.
Tides are merely pressure waves due to the change in atmosphere as the sun and moon reflections pass over and around.

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Or the effects of a solar eclipse and how a simple pinhole camera captures the event.
A solar eclipse is just a cancelling reflection.

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To the way sunlight can illuminate the bottom of clouds. 

Reflection once again.


What is the point of your BS?  Try to post so much crap to get people to give up.

Does that even work? 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #349 on: March 27, 2023, 12:19:43 PM »
There is no space like you're told and the dust at the centre does not exist. It's a hydrogen/helium feed from an oxygen/water break down.


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Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome

Then they should be fracturing and distorting the projections. And showing the line of projection.
Nope.


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 And why comets have tails that grow in length as they approach the sun.
Merely more disintegration due to more friction turning hydrogen ice into gas.



How can you contradict yourself, and act like you have credibility.

No “space dust”?  But your delusion is making moisture, icicles.  Dropping icicles.  Then dropping icicles and creating gas? 

Anyway.

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Melting point
(H2) 13.99 K ​(−259.16 °C, ​−434.49 °F)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen




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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #350 on: March 27, 2023, 01:25:11 PM »

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To the way sunlight can illuminate the bottom of clouds. 

Reflection once again.

How.  How by reflection.

Again.

I made this picture..



Because this was posted by a FE’r

DataOverFlow2022 even validated phew physics. 👍

"U" shape of sunlight path means, the more distant clouds undergo sunlight illuminating at its upper part, while the less distant clouds undergo sunlight illuminating at the under part.

So I posted this.


When a person is under a cloud say at noon, the bottom of the cloud is shaded from the top so the bottom is darker.  Or you can actually watch cloud shadows move across fields or mountains. 

Something like this for FE,


Now.  Flat earth.  How is the person farthest from the cloud and sun at sunset/sunrise seeing the cloud illuminated bottom up?  While the person closest to the sun/cloud is seeing the cloud illuminated top down with the cloud casting shadows on the earth? 


Bottom up to make this type of shadows?




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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #351 on: March 27, 2023, 01:33:18 PM »
Come back when you calm down.
You sure do love your pathetic dismissal.
I get it, you can't refute me, and know that, and are upset at just how often you have been refuted; so you make up pathetic excuses to avoid addressing simple issues and answering simple questions.

Perhaps you should leave, and come back if you grow up and are willing to honestly engage?

But then again there's no proof your sun is a near 1 million mile diameter, 93 million mile distant nuclear fusion reactor but you swallow it because the schooling teaches that and that's all you know of the story as your reality. Proving it is impossible and you're well aware of that.
There is plenty.
You not liking it doesn't magically make all that evidence disappear.

You reject it, because it doesn't fit your delusional fantasy.

The projector is in the centre. Nobody is operating it. It's a natural energy fed by Earth itself. A sealed unit of finite energy of a cell until the cell dies.
Sure, no one is operating it, but it magically produces exactly what is expected for a RE.

I don't believe in any god.
The problem is that your world is quite clearly not natural.
You have no natural explanation for what would cause a magical snow globe Earth to form, with a magical projector in the centre.

Can you not step back and see your spinning globe as the monstrosity is really is?
What monstrosity?
I can step back, and examine and see how well it matches reality.
I can step back and see how it is explained with a few simple laws.
I can step back and see how the arguments against it so often rely upon blatant misrepresentation.

I will never turn my back on my ideas unless I find  better ideas.
You have already demonstrated that is not the case.
You discard ideas you don't like and cling to others which are vastly inferior.

The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.
The problem is that only matches reality for a narrow window of time.
The phase of the moon, and its associated separation from the sun varies over time.
If the moon was merely a reflection of the sun's projection on the dome we would expect it to match the sun.
Yet we can observe the sun with a solar filter in fairly good detail, even seeing things like sunspots. Things which don't occur on the moon.
But more importantly, we should expect it to always be related the same way, we should always have a full moon, with the moon being 180 degrees from the sun.
Instead, we observe the phase and angular separation vary. We do have full moons, but only for a small period of the month. At other times, the moon is off at a different angle, and we can see the sun and moon in the sky at the same time, with the moon not a fully illuminated circle.
We also observe a new moon when the sun and moon are quite close.
But the biggest issue are the eclipses.
If the moon is just a reflection of the sun, what causes a lunar eclipse?
More significantly what causes the solar eclipse, which clearly appears to be the moon going in front of the sun.

Even if we dismiss all the evidence from multiple space agencies as fake, the evidence still shows your idea doesn't work.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #352 on: March 27, 2023, 09:34:26 PM »
Ahh yes, the dome again. So, where's the projector, and who is operating it? The pixies? What powers it?
The projector is in the centre. Nobody is operating it. It's a natural energy fed by Earth itself. A sealed unit of finite energy of a cell until the cell dies.

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The flat Earth idea has the ability to bring the people who believe it, closer to God.
 It shrinks the entire universe to a dome covered circle and God close by and within listening distance.
I don't believe in any god.
If you want an answer as to a god then earth is my god and the cells around Earth will be the bacteria that lives within those as their gods.
What those cells make up in an entirety is anyone's guess.


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But it's possible to be equally close to God without denying science and reality.
People can believe anything they wish in terms of gods and/or scientist explanations.

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The flat Earth idea is really ingrained upon your soul now, isn't it?
That depends on what you are imagining as you sat flat Earth.
There are many ideas.
The cell may help you where I'm cocnerned.

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Can you not step back from it and see it as the monster it really is?
Can you not step back and see your spinning globe as the monstrosity is really is?
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Eating up all your time and energy, making you feel different and alien to everybody else, like you don't belong.......
Life eats us all up second by second, hours by hour, day by day, week by week, year by year until we cease to be an organism.
This will happen whether you spend your life playing games, writing books, investigating crimes or reading written books or typing on an internet.
Life is never wasted, it's lived no matter what, whether you laugh or cry or worry.

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How many Flat Earth friends will you lose if you turn your back on the flat earth idea?
I won't lose any friends and I will never turn my back on my ideas unless I find  better ideas.
That accounts for us all no matter what it is we do in life.

Sceptimatic, having different ideas and beliefs to other people, is what makes life interesting. Standing your ground in your own truth in the face of adversity is in its own way, heroic. I respect that. I can see your sincerity and can see you even think deeply about life. I respect that too.

Now, between you and I, regarding the shape of the Earth, we have a stalemate. I'm never going to sway your mind, and you're never going to sway my mind on that matter.

So, between you and I, it is pointless having any further flat earth debates, arguments, or discussion. From this point forward, we can either totally ignore each other, or discuss other topics.

So, for you, you're big into the cell concept. I actually like that, because you can see that everything is in a hierarchy, only for you by way of cells within cells.

For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #353 on: March 28, 2023, 03:47:51 AM »
It doesn't. It's made after when it reflects back through the atmosphere in wavelengths.

Really.  By what process and how can I do the same thing in a tank or tent of oxygen.
You can't.


Do you understand how a fluorescent bulb works? It actually produces UV radiation, and converts that to light via a fluorescent coating. 

The fluorescent bulb is a working model of how trapped gases work with high voltage to create UV radiation.

Now, what similar elements are present in earth’s atmosphere to create a constant source of UV light during sunlight hours.  During the day, What causes consistent UV exposure in the magnitude of a sun undergoing fusion? 

And why is it only during daylight hours I can get a sunburn?  What changes in the flat earth delusion with a sun always above a flat earth with no spherical earth to block the UV radiation at night? 

Why can’t I get a sunburn in a cave from natural processes in the flat earth delusion.  The cave has an atmosphere.  And is surely surrounded by earth energy. 

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #354 on: March 28, 2023, 05:08:44 AM »

Focusing on model rockets shows a reality against the silly slow lift off of pretend space rockets.
Just understand full thrust of a rocket at lift off and then you'll understand there's no slow lift off, so something else is at play which is fairly easy to grasp once the bias of space rocket is out of a person's system.


Comparing what “fuel”?  With what weight to thrust ratio?  With what impulse?

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Black Jack™ (J) and Black Max™ (FJ)  - Provides the high visibility tracking of dense, black exhaust. In addition to a distinctive lift off roar, Black Jack motors give your models lower acceleration and longer powered flight than White Lightning or Blue Thunder motors of the same total impulse. Black Max provides slightly higher acceleration than White Lightning Propellant.

Blue Thunder™ (T) - Produces a bright violet-blue flame with a minimum of exhaust smoke. These motors provide a higher level of thrust than White Lightning or Black Jack motors of the same total impulse. Blue Thunder is the perfect propellant for high lift-off acceleration.

White Lightning™ (W) - A brilliant white flame, dense bright white exhaust, and a throaty roar are the hallmarks of this popular propellant. Easy to track. Exciting to watch! White Lightning looks and sounds like actual sounding rockets and launch vehicles. Special effects professionals and aerospace companies specify the AeroTech White Lightning propellant to achieve realistic simulation.

Warp-9™ (N) - If you blink, you'll miss it! Displaying a prominent yellow-orange flame studded with "mach diamonds", Warp-9 is AeroTech's fastest-burning propellant. Originally developed for Orbital's Pegasus® fin motors, Warp-9 is perfect when you need the highest thrust possible from a given motor size. Alternatively, when used in an "end-burning" grain configuration, Warp-9 delivers unique thrust curve profiles such as that produced by the new G69N model rocket reload.


https://www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket_Motors/AeroTech_Motors#descSub
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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #355 on: March 28, 2023, 08:30:52 AM »

The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.



 Sorry.  That is not how a screen with a space below your delusional dome with enough moisture to create falling icicles would work.

If there was no ice, at the very least you would get this effect.


https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/do-two-mirrors-facing-each-other-produce-infinite-reflections/amp/
You're using a mirror in atmosphere.
The dome doesn't work like that.

The dome is ice. The blackness to our eyes exists outside the dome.
The ice offers the reflective barrier to the blackness and offers those reflections back to us.


A better way to define it is to stand in a well lit room with a window looking out into a dark night with no visible street lights and you'll get a better idea.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #356 on: March 28, 2023, 08:33:24 AM »

The reason you see that is because the moon is the direct reflection of the sun on the dome. It's why you see moon down sun up or vice versa, from your vantage point.



 How is the moon “is the direct reflection of the sun”.

That is nothing more than delusion.  It’s just stupid.  And not a credible statement other than the sun illuminates the moon and the other planets.   


And how does the moon have phases, and the sun is just the sun?  Along with the planet mercury having phases.
Every light you see in that sky is all direct reflections of the energy from within. Your stars and planets and sun and moon are all simply projected from the centre not burning balls of fire in a space vacuum.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #357 on: March 28, 2023, 08:34:52 AM »

What is the point of your BS?  Try to post so much crap to get people to give up.

Does that even work?
Do whatever suits you and try not to spend too much time winding yourself up over what I say.
Just bypass me if it helps you.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #358 on: March 28, 2023, 08:36:29 AM »
There is no space like you're told and the dust at the centre does not exist. It's a hydrogen/helium feed from an oxygen/water break down.


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Comets are just icicles breaking off the dome

Then they should be fracturing and distorting the projections. And showing the line of projection.
Nope.


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 And why comets have tails that grow in length as they approach the sun.
Merely more disintegration due to more friction turning hydrogen ice into gas.



How can you contradict yourself, and act like you have credibility.

No “space dust”?  But your delusion is making moisture, icicles.  Dropping icicles.  Then dropping icicles and creating gas? 

Anyway.

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(H2) 13.99 K ​(−259.16 °C, ​−434.49 °F)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen
Tell me what space dust is and explain how that works in this vacuum?

I'm not contradicting myself, it's you that doesn't get it from my side.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?
« Reply #359 on: March 28, 2023, 08:37:54 AM »

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To the way sunlight can illuminate the bottom of clouds. 

Reflection once again.

How.  How by reflection.

Again.

I made this picture..



Because this was posted by a FE’r

DataOverFlow2022 even validated phew physics. 👍

"U" shape of sunlight path means, the more distant clouds undergo sunlight illuminating at its upper part, while the less distant clouds undergo sunlight illuminating at the under part.

So I posted this.


When a person is under a cloud say at noon, the bottom of the cloud is shaded from the top so the bottom is darker.  Or you can actually watch cloud shadows move across fields or mountains. 

Something like this for FE,


Now.  Flat earth.  How is the person farthest from the cloud and sun at sunset/sunrise seeing the cloud illuminated bottom up?  While the person closest to the sun/cloud is seeing the cloud illuminated top down with the cloud casting shadows on the earth? 


Bottom up to make this type of shadows?


Three words.
Dome and reflection.