Curious about flat earth response to this video

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Curious about flat earth response to this video
« on: March 01, 2024, 09:18:29 PM »
Hello,

I'm curious about what the flat earth response would be to this time-lapsed video taken from Antarctica, which shows how the sun doesn't set for days at a time and where even in the night sky, the stars spin around an axis of rotation, where the flat earth model doesn't show that this happens at all and in fact the flat earth model says that this cannot happen.


Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2024, 10:27:54 PM »
The Sun goes in and out in cycles each year, like the video shows it in the central area of Earth, you call the North Pole area of a ball earth.

This shows how the Sun is moving above a flat Earth in cycles, a spiral that goes around in a circular pattern back and forth in a spiral.

Your Sun would hit half a ball Earth in one temperature all over Earth, half of it, all the time.

If the Sun was 80 million miles away or whatever, itís heat will not vary after it travels 80 million miles out, over tiny distances on Earth, and way hotter if closer to it , not colder when closer to it. 

Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2024, 10:33:27 PM »
The Sun goes in and out in cycles each year, like the video shows it in the central area of Earth, you call the North Pole area of a ball earth.

This shows how the Sun is moving above a flat Earth in cycles, a spiral that goes around in a circular pattern back and forth in a spiral.

Your Sun would hit half a ball Earth in one temperature all over Earth, half of it, all the time.

If the Sun was 80 million miles away or whatever, itís heat will not vary after it travels 80 million miles out, over tiny distances on Earth, and way hotter if closer to it , not colder when closer to it.

That video was shot in Antarctica, which on the flat Earth map, would be at the center southernmost edge of the Earth. And the sun is circling around that southern point. The flat earth model says that this does not happen. Yet we can see from the video, that it does in fact happen. Only the global model of the Earth can visually explain this phenomenon.
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Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2024, 12:51:51 AM »
The Sun goes in and out in cycles each year, like the video shows it in the central area of Earth, you call the North Pole area of a ball earth.
The video was the south pole.

This shows how the Sun is moving above a flat Earth in cycles, a spiral that goes around in a circular pattern back and forth in a spiral.
That would make 24 hours of night impossible.
So it shows that it is NOT above a flat surface.

Your Sun would hit half a ball Earth in one temperature all over Earth, half of it, all the time.
You mean with the same intensity of light.

But that is spread over a different area of Earth.
Consider a 1 m wide square beam of light.
At the subsolar point, it hits the ground perpendicular to it.
That means it illuminates a 1 m square area.
But now consider a point at roughly 45 degrees removed.
Now, instead of coming in perpendicular, it comes in at a 45 degree angle.
This means instead of illuminating an area 1 m wide, it illuminates an area sqrt(2) m wide.
That means the same energy is spread over a larger area, so it is not going to heat it as much.

Conversely, with the FE, the distance varies so dramatically it isn't funny, and in a manner that makes no sense.
Consider the north pole during their summer.
That gets 24 hours of daylight, while the sun is circling above the tropics. That is remaining above a point roughly 7400 km away.
Yet places in the south, which would have the sun much further away for a very large portion of the time, are still much warmer.

Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2024, 03:16:56 AM »
Conversely, with the FE, the distance varies so dramatically it isn't funny, and in a manner that makes no sense.
Consider the north pole during their summer.
That gets 24 hours of daylight, while the sun is circling above the tropics. That is remaining above a point roughly 7400 km away.
Yet places in the south, which would have the sun much further away for a very large portion of the time, are still much warmer.
The original point of the post was to discuss the path of the sun in the sky - specifically what is observed from the Earths surface, and a model that correctly explains what we see with our own eyes.

My point is that the flat earth model does not explain what we see with our own eyes while the global model does.

This, alone is enough evidence to abandon a flat earth model.

Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2024, 05:22:45 AM »
Hello,

I'm curious about what the flat earth response would be to this time-lapsed video taken from Antarctica, which shows how the sun doesn't set for days at a time and where even in the night sky, the stars spin around an axis of rotation, where the flat earth model doesn't show that this happens at all and in fact the flat earth model says that this cannot happen.



My response is to show you this video.


It has a model of sun rotating the Earth.

Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2024, 07:24:45 AM »

My response is to show you this video.


It has a model of sun rotating the Earth.

So what that video is showing you, would essentially be this on the flat earth map, where the sun is staying up in the sky 24 hours a day for weeks on end without ever setting and that it is circling around this point on the flat earth map:




Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2024, 07:30:28 AM »

It has a model of sun rotating the Earth.

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Flat Earth orbits are hilariously INSANE







So?  What independent forces act separately in the FE model to cause the sun and moon to speedup and slowdown and change longitude and latitude as required by the flat earth model.

Where the flat earth orbit of the sun is debunked because the sun should visibly turn relative north or right after passing California and heading out to sea, should change apparent size, should seem to slow down, and wouldnít set on a flat earth.  While the heliocentric model perfectly explains and forecasts their movements and is also true for solar and lunar eclipses.  Where you have provided no credible explanation for the cause of lunar eclipses.




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Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2024, 12:19:36 PM »
My response is to show you this video.
A video which doesn't address the issue at all.
And includes the same dishonest BS about the RE.

The big issue with the video is how you have prolonged periods of night and prolonged periods of day, at/near the south pole.

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sandokhan

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Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2024, 01:03:18 AM »
Let us first deal with the Arctic zone.

The first major claim of another moon of Earth was made by French astronomer Frťdťric Petit, director of the Toulouse Observatory, who in 1846 announced that he had discovered a second moon in an elliptical orbit around Earth.

It was claimed to have also been reported by Lebon and Dassier at Toulouse, and by LariviŤre at Artenac Observatory, during the early evening of March 21, 1846.

Petit published another paper on his 1846 observations in 1861, basing the second moon's existence on perturbations in movements of the actual Moon.

This second Moon, in the Greek mythology, is called Aurora (sister of the Sun and of the Moon).

This is not Garuda.

This is Garuda:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHXiljRWoAAm2LG?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHXiljPWQAAN-_p?format=jpg&name=small

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764229969167741079

https://twitter.com/i/status/1763787315703353357

This second Moon, the Aurora, orbits above the Arctic circle.

It is the sunís refraction off of Earthís second moon which makes it appear as if the sun is always present.

The never-ending daylight is possible due to Earthís second moon which refracts the suns light one it has passed gone over the horizon.

Then, this second Moon is the cause of the Aurora Borealis.

There was no way to actually prove this.

That is, until recently.

The Aurora Borealis cannot be explained by an external stream of plasma/ions that are injected into the Earth's magnetic field.

The auroral displays are caused by the celestial object that orbits above the North Pole region.

http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/2007/09/earth-weaves-its-own-invisible-cloak.html

NASA Scientists Agree ó Polar Ion Fountains Fill the Earth's Magnetosphere

https://www.ourhollowearth.com/Earth_weaves_its_own_invisible_cloak.pdf

"The perception started to change in the mid-1980s following the Aug. 3, 1981, launch of two Dynamics Explorer satellites designed to study the magnetosphere near the Earth. DE-1 carried Chappell's Retarding Ion Mass Spectrometer (RIMS), designed to measure the population of the plasmasphere, a torus or donut of low-energy in the inner magnetosphere.

To Chappell's surprise, the real find was around the north pole where RIMS measured gases flowing upward from the ionosphere into space."

The Aurora Australis is caused by a similar heavenly body orbiting above the Antarctic circle.

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Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2024, 01:07:18 AM »
It is the sunís refraction off of Earthís second moon which makes it appear as if the sun is always present.
No, its not. Because you can follow the sun around up there.

It isn't just never ending daylight, but the ability to track the sun in a circle.

There was no way to actually prove this.
Of course, because it is pure nonsense.

Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2024, 01:44:41 AM »
When you ask why the Sun shines almost 24 hours a day over your ĎNorth Poleí of a ball Earth, yet it is still hotter in the southern areas of Earth, which are further away from the Sun than it is in the north?


When you donít realize that when we go up higher and higher in the air, and we get closer and closer to the Sun, you would believe that we feel hotter and hotter when we get closer to the Sun?

We actually get colder and colder when closer to the Sun, but your model of the Sun would have us hotter when closer to it, or when closer to the north of Earth than the south.

This doesnít work with your Sun being millions of miles away from a ball Earth. 

Your Sun would cook us to a crisp if we were closer to it!

Thatís not the real Sun, is it now?

The Sun isnít like a giant ball of fire, or a massive torch of fire and heat, because if it was, weíd get hotter when closer to it. Not the opposite, at least, just the same as when further from it.

That shows the Sun in your story being a huge ball of extreme heat on its surface isnít true. Itís not a giant fire ball of millions of degrees temperature on its surface.

It doesnít work with the reality. Getting colder when closer to it proves your model is wrong.

The Sun casts out more of its heat to the entire surface of Earth, at all points on the surface, than higher above those points on Earths surface.

The various types of surfaces on Earth are also a factor in it, but mostly it is about the various areas of Earth that the Sun heats differently.

It canít be about its distance to Earth, that is for sure.

Itís not from heating the surface more, a mountain peak is on the surface, but itís very cold on the surface of a mountain.

The surfaces are a factor, for sure, but that doesnít explain it, on colder surfaces, itís where you are on Earth that the Sun varies its level of heat.

How it does this, isnít known by us, like many things we donít know how were done, like how life was created, among other mysteries unknown to us.

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Re: Curious about flat earth response to this video
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2024, 02:25:48 AM »
When you ask why the Sun shines almost 24 hours a day over your ĎNorth Poleí of a ball Earth, yet it is still hotter in the southern areas of Earth, which are further away from the Sun than it is in the north?
I have already explained how with the RE, the distance doesn't matter. That is because the change is negligible.
But for a FE that change is massive.
You ignoring that to repeat the same BS wont help you.

This doesnít work with your Sun being millions of miles away from a ball Earth.
Quite the opposite.
This DOES work with the RE model, where that change in distance is negligible, and other factors determine the temperature.
It doesn't work with your delusional BS where the distance changes massively.

It doesnít work with the reality. Getting colder when closer to it proves your model is wrong.
No, it proves your strawman wrong.

It canít be about its distance to Earth, that is for sure.
So you admit your prior claims are pure BS?