How would a load cell weigh without gravity?

They lied.

Companies lie. Deal with it. Blue Buffalo routinely tells people their dog food is really awesome when it contains lead.

Cannabis may contain heavy metals and affect consumer health, study finds

Research team proposes strategies for growers to avoid heavy metals in their cannabis crops

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/cannabis-may-contain-heavy-metals-and-affect-consumer-health-study-finds/

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Cannabis plants — which are used to produce industrial hemp, medical marijuana and cannabidiol (CBD) oil, among other products — have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals from the soil, making them useful for remediating contaminated sites. But this ability to soak up toxic metals may also make cannabis dangerous for consumers who ingest it.

“ Cannabis plants” “ have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals”

You need it to understand that when you are standing in flat level ground for miles

But level ground isn't flat.

If this were not the case, an island as level as a sponge for several miles would be impossible to build structures on.

Why? Because you say so?
Just what magic is making is unstable?

its very existence proof there is no curvature as not only roads and bridges but buildings should have creased at the seams.

Why?
Again, you are just asserting pure garbage with no justification at all.

Yet NYC is very much level

It very much isn't.
It varies in elevation by over 200 ft.
And that isn't as a plane.
So if your delusional BS was true, why isn't NYC unstable, with visible creases?

And surely gravity and not adding microchips filled with code is the important part.

The question is how those components work?
They are microelectromechanical systems (or MEMS), functioning in a manner similar to a loadcell.
Without gravity, they wouldn't be able to tell which way is down.

Not than an accelerometer actually uses gravity either. Angular momentum is not gravity.

An accelerometer is not measuring angular momentum.
It measures acceleration, including the apparent 1 g you get from standing on the surface of Earth.

They lied.
Companies lie.

And why couldn't you source by lying, or just mistaken?
Did they actually examine each component and determine what it has?

For a Switch use for Breath of the Wild and Skyward Sword, yes you have an accelerometer. For a device that does minor tilting only, unnecessary and counterproductive.

What you should be asking is what is it trying to measure.

Is it trying to measure the orientation of the device, or is it trying to measure how the device turns?
Can you recalibrate it, so it thinks level is sideways, and then operate it relative to that?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on December 10, 2022, 01:06:47 AM

They lied.

Companies lie. Deal with it. Blue Buffalo routinely tells people their dog food is really awesome when it contains lead.

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Cannabis may contain heavy metals and affect consumer health, study finds

Research team proposes strategies for growers to avoid heavy metals in their cannabis crops

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/cannabis-may-contain-heavy-metals-and-affect-consumer-health-study-finds/

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Cannabis plants — which are used to produce industrial hemp, medical marijuana and cannabidiol (CBD) oil, among other products — have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals from the soil, making them useful for remediating contaminated sites. But this ability to soak up toxic metals may also make cannabis dangerous for consumers who ingest it.

“ Cannabis plants” “ have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals”

Not what I mean, and you know it.

https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/6334-blue-buffalo-supplier-charged-with-8-criminal-counts

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/blue-buffalo-pet-food-class-action-lawsuits-allege-hidden-ingredients/

It is not an accelerometer but a light sensor that determines tilt. I was pretty sure of this with my own tilt experiments, and he was able to confirm this was the case after a thorough disassembly.

So explain how this light sensor determines tilt.

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Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on December 10, 2022, 01:06:47 AM

They lied.

Companies lie. Deal with it. Blue Buffalo routinely tells people their dog food is really awesome when it contains lead.

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Cannabis may contain heavy metals and affect consumer health, study finds

Research team proposes strategies for growers to avoid heavy metals in their cannabis crops

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/cannabis-may-contain-heavy-metals-and-affect-consumer-health-study-finds/

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Cannabis plants — which are used to produce industrial hemp, medical marijuana and cannabidiol (CBD) oil, among other products — have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals from the soil, making them useful for remediating contaminated sites. But this ability to soak up toxic metals may also make cannabis dangerous for consumers who ingest it.

“ Cannabis plants” “ have an inherent ability to absorb heavy metals”

Not what I mean, and you know it.

https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/6334-blue-buffalo-supplier-charged-with-8-criminal-counts

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/blue-buffalo-pet-food-class-action-lawsuits-allege-hidden-ingredients/

I literally don’t have a dog in the fight.  But… Is there any evidence of lead contamination other than by one crazy plaintiff, and backed third party independent testing?  A lab independent of the plaintiffs that verified samples/claims? 

Or any actual testing of sick animals for confirmed lead poisoning, or autopsies of dead animals?

LAWS UPDATE: Lawsuit Against Blue Buffalo Dog Food Dismissed by Courts

https://www.dogingtonpost.com/class-action-lawsuit-blue-buffalo-lead/

UPDATE: In a letter to consumers, Blue Buffalo made the following statement regarding the allegations against them: These unsubstantiated allegations stem from a single lawsuit filed against us by a single plaintiff who claims that levels of lead were found in three of our products that could be dangerous to pet health. Blue Buffalo strongly denies these allegations, which represent the unsubstantiated claims of one person, and have not been supported by any evidence or data. We are vigorously fighting this lawsuit and have filed a motion in court to have the case dismissed.”

On March 20, 2018, the courts granted Blue Buffalo’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit against them.

You just highlighted your biased view, and your intellectual dishonestly.


The supposed lead contamination by one plaintiff was never verified by an independent third party with no medical evidence of lead poisoning to pets.

You

Blue Buffalo routinely tells people their dog food is really awesome when it contains lead.

When in reality it was supposed lead contamination by one plaintiff in a lawsuit dismissed 4 years ago in 2018 with no medical evidence of pets being poisoned by the dog food.

It’s amazing to see how delusional and or blatantly dishonest you are when it comes to reality.

There is no reason to trust anything you post as credible.

I really like the argument that a wholesaler provided allegedly misbranded and adulterated poultry ingredients to a pet food company and that somehow means that Texas Instruments & Amazon are lying when they claim and documented their devices have gravity based accelerometers in them. And without any evidence to boot.

Totally makes sense, right? Not deluded and crazy at all. Spot-on logic all around, right?

Ifixit teardown of an Amazon Fire HD, accelerometer, InvenSense MPU-6050:



MPU6050 - Micro Electro-mechanical system (MEMS) - CODE:
// uncomment "OUTPUT_READABLE_YAWPITCHROLL" if you want to see the yaw/
// pitch/roll angles (in degrees) calculated from the quaternions coming
// from the FIFO. Note this also requires gravity vector calculations.
// Also note that yaw/pitch/roll angles suffer from gimbal lock (for
// more info, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal_lock)
#define OUTPUT_READABLE_YAWPITCHROLL

There's a difference between ignorance of followup, and dishonesty. But you're so dishonest that you claim me not knowing that the case

And what about the other suits that Blue Buffalo had fraudulent ingredients? Are they also false?

I just saw a Nespresso commercial that talked about how they were paving the way to a better global something something something. So I wanted to see if that claim was true.

https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2020-03-03---starbucks-and-nespresso-are-accused-of-exploiting-children-on-farms-.BkGz44InN8.html

Apparently not.

All businesses can potentially not act above board. If the least Amazon does is mention a part that they don't have (and don't need), that's not too bad. Though I know from working at Amazon that Jeff Bezos is insane.

All businesses can potentially not act above board. If the least Amazon does is mention a part that they don't have (and don't need), that's not too bad. Though I know from working at Amazon that Jeff Bezos is insane.

What evidence do you have that your Kindle doesn't have or need an accelerometer?

- I have presented evidence that accelerometers are used
- That accelerometers have gravity based design and code
- Amazon Kindles are not the only devices that use gravity based accelerometers, all smart phones & tablets do.


You have provided zero evidence in the face of overwhelming evidence contrary to your unfounded claims. Zero. Therefore, your claims are dismissed as intellectually dishonest and without merit. 

There's a difference between ignorance of followup, and dishonesty.

Yes, and looking at a claim, without bothering investigating it at all, and then just asserting it as fact to try and support your garbage is dishonesty.
Honesty with ignorance of follow up would be saying someone has claimed there is lead in the food.

Likewise, dishonesty is clinging to this to avoid the discussion of gravity.

Most phones and plenty of other electronic devices these days use an accelerometer which functions quite like a load cell with an attached weight to determine the direction of down. This relies upon gravity.

If it isn't gravity, what is providing this force that distorts the device causing a measurement?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on December 10, 2022, 01:06:47 AM

It is not an accelerometer but a light sensor that determines tilt. I was pretty sure of this with my own tilt experiments, and he was able to confirm this was the case after a thorough disassembly.

So explain how this light sensor determines tilt.

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Optical Gyroscopes
Unlike mechanical or gas-bearing gyroscopes, optical gyroscopes do not rely on a rotating wheel or bearing. Optical gyroscopes are not based on the conservation of angular momentum. These gyroscopes use two coils of fiber optic cable spun in different orientations. According to the Sagnac Effect, when the device is tilted, the two beans of light will travel different distances, which can be measured. Since there are no moving parts, fiber optic gyroscopes are very durable and are used in modern rocketry and spacecraft.

So like, I did?

A conventional gyroscope relies on the principle of conservation of angular momentum whereas the sensitivity of the ring interferometer to rotation arises from the invariance of the speed of light for all inertial frames of reference.

When it's tilted, it doesn't "determine tilt", tilt has happened and now the beams travel different distances.

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2385252#msg2385252 date=1670684079

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on December 10, 2022, 01:06:47 AM

It is not an accelerometer but a light sensor that determines tilt. I was pretty sure of this with my own tilt experiments, and he was able to confirm this was the case after a thorough disassembly.

So explain how this light sensor determines tilt.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144

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Optical Gyroscopes
Unlike mechanical or gas-bearing gyroscopes, optical gyroscopes do not rely on a rotating wheel or bearing. Optical gyroscopes are not based on the conservation of angular momentum. These gyroscopes use two coils of fiber optic cable spun in different orientations. According to the Sagnac Effect, when the device is tilted, the two beans of light will travel different distances, which can be measured. Since there are no moving parts, fiber optic gyroscopes are very durable and are used in modern rocketry and spacecraft.

So like, I did?

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A conventional gyroscope relies on the principle of conservation of angular momentum whereas the sensitivity of the ring interferometer to rotation arises from the invariance of the speed of light for all inertial frames of reference.

When it's tilted, it doesn't "determine tilt", tilt has happened and now the beams travel different distances.

I wouldn't call a laser ring gyroscope, a light sensor.  There is a light sensor within it, but to call it that is like calling an Engine and Automobile.

So like, I did?

When it's tilted, it doesn't "determine tilt", tilt has happened and now the beams travel different distances.

No, you didn't, and you clearly don't understand.

When it is turning, the beams travel different distances. When it stops turning, the beams now travel equal distances.
This detects rotation, which requires knowing what the initial orientation was, and is quite susceptible to drift and has difficulty picking up slow rotation.

As such, it is quite unsuitable for determining orientation of a device.

And again, still no explanation from you about what magic applies a force to a load cell to cause it to distort.