Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #150 on: June 15, 2020, 05:01:59 AM »
There are several hardening techniques and levels, depending on the requirements, and the percentage of components in the alloy (like percentage of carbon in steel).
Generally, the microscopic explanation is baced on adjustment of graininess and on recrystallization.

Maybe thgis can help in understanding the basics:
https://www.nde-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/strengthening.htm
End result is porosity creating the structure.
The only issue is, in how porous each object is, from largely to miniscule.

And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #151 on: June 15, 2020, 05:06:36 AM »
There are several hardening techniques and levels, depending on the requirements, and the percentage of components in the alloy (like percentage of carbon in steel).
Generally, the microscopic explanation is baced on adjustment of graininess and on recrystallization.

Maybe thgis can help in understanding the basics:
https://www.nde-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/strengthening.htm
End result is porosity creating the structure.
The only issue is, in how porous each object is, from largely to miniscule.

And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Atmohemispheric
You're getting there.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #152 on: June 15, 2020, 05:40:07 AM »
Atmoplanar

To be an atmosphere, the planet would have to be a sphere-ish.
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #153 on: June 15, 2020, 07:53:29 AM »
Its under a dome.
Assuming the dome is half a ball.
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #154 on: June 15, 2020, 08:49:27 AM »
Its under a dome.
Assuming the dome is half a ball.
Atmo-Hemi-spheric

Why can't the dome be a cube or cylinder?

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« Last Edit: June 15, 2020, 08:51:32 AM by NotSoSkeptical »
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #155 on: June 15, 2020, 11:42:09 AM »
Its under a dome.
Assuming the dome is half a ball.
Atmo-Hemi-spheric

Why can't the dome be a cube or cylinder?

Atmoplanar

Atmodiscal

Because the shape would then be semicylinder

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #156 on: June 15, 2020, 03:35:05 PM »
Do you actually know what magnetism is?
I mean, do you actually know what causes this natural magnetic effect we see?
How about instead of deflecting, you instead focus on providing an explanation from your model?

There are several questions about how magnetism works you have completely failed to answer, because your nonsense has no way to explain it.

Again:
How do 2 magnets get "pushed" towards one another, sometimes with one flipping around?
How do the magnets orient themselves relative to each other?
What is the cause of this directionality?
Do you have "north" air and "south" air? Where magnets then have "north" air trapped on one side and "south" air on the other?

How does one magnet cause another to be pushed towards it?
Why does it depend on the strength of both magnets?

All of these points make absolutely no sense in your world of only pushing.
But they work just fine in a world where you can have pulling as well.

And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.
The fact that we can produce air tight containers shows that that is clearly not the case.

And again, you ignore a simple rope which clearly shows that it isn't all just push.

What holds the rope together while it is under tension.
Why does pulling one end of the rope away from the other produce such a dramatically different effect to pushing that end towards the other?
Why doesn't the rope fall apart when you pull it?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #157 on: June 15, 2020, 05:47:09 PM »

Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #158 on: June 15, 2020, 05:50:47 PM »

So we agree that surface tension does not explain how oceans can curve.  That must be a first.
Oceans do not curve, unless you mean waves.
And surface tension would be atmospheric pressure upon any surface with that surface resisting that pressure.
Surface tension has nothing to do with atmospheric pressure!

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #159 on: June 15, 2020, 05:57:39 PM »
There are several hardening techniques and levels, depending on the requirements, and the percentage of components in the alloy (like percentage of carbon in steel).
Generally, the microscopic explanation is baced on adjustment of graininess and on recrystallization.

Maybe thgis can help in understanding the basics:
https://www.nde-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/strengthening.htm
End result is porosity creating the structure.
The only issue is, in how porous each object is, from largely to miniscule.

And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Any other air around us except your "atmospheric"? :)
And metal objects would remain solid? :)
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We all know for glass vacuum tubes.
There are also metal vacuum tubes. (For example "RCA 6SA7 vacuum tube - metal radio tube...")
We know for Cathode Ray tubes (in older CRT TVs and monitors).

They prove that there is no such porosity of glass and metal.
Otherwise the vacuum tubes would lose their vacuum, air would get in and the tube would stop working in less than a second.

Yet, the tubes are/were working for years, some of them for decades.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #160 on: June 15, 2020, 07:31:31 PM »
Its under a dome.
Assuming the dome is half a ball.
Atmo-Hemi-spheric

Why can't the dome be a cube or cylinder?

Atmoplanar

Atmodiscal

Because the shape would then be semicylinder

Yes it would, as no flat earther has ever reached the dome or the edge, how do they know its not.
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #161 on: June 15, 2020, 10:04:29 PM »

Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
We can talk about electric currents later if you want.
First of all, tell me how a magnet works. a magnet in your hand...tell me how and why that works. Or admit you have no clue.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #162 on: June 15, 2020, 10:05:38 PM »

So we agree that surface tension does not explain how oceans can curve.  That must be a first.
Oceans do not curve, unless you mean waves.
And surface tension would be atmospheric pressure upon any surface with that surface resisting that pressure.
Surface tension has nothing to do with atmospheric pressure!
It has everything to do with it, otherwise there would be zero tension.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #163 on: June 15, 2020, 10:18:45 PM »


And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Any other air around us except your "atmospheric"? :)
No need for more. It's all in atmospheric, in stages. In a stack. Different molecular stages.
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And metal objects would remain solid? :)
Yep.


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We all know for glass vacuum tubes.
There are also metal vacuum tubes. (For example "RCA 6SA7 vacuum tube - metal radio tube...")
We know for Cathode Ray tubes (in older CRT TVs and monitors).

They prove that there is no such porosity of glass and metal.
Otherwise the vacuum tubes would lose their vacuum, air would get in and the tube would stop working in less than a second.

Yet, the tubes are/were working for years, some of them for decades.

It proves nothing other than the glass can create a barrier to external dense pressure of molecules.
The pores in that glass structure would be super tiny.
super fluids would breach it.




« Last Edit: June 15, 2020, 10:20:18 PM by sceptimatic »

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #164 on: June 15, 2020, 11:32:33 PM »


And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Any other air around us except your "atmospheric"? :)
No need for more. It's all in atmospheric, in stages. In a stack. Different molecular stages.
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And metal objects would remain solid? :)
Yep.


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We all know for glass vacuum tubes.
There are also metal vacuum tubes. (For example "RCA 6SA7 vacuum tube - metal radio tube...")
We know for Cathode Ray tubes (in older CRT TVs and monitors).

They prove that there is no such porosity of glass and metal.
Otherwise the vacuum tubes would lose their vacuum, air would get in and the tube would stop working in less than a second.

Yet, the tubes are/were working for years, some of them for decades.

It proves nothing other than the glass can create a barrier to external dense pressure of molecules.
The pores in that glass structure would be super tiny.
super fluids would breach it.

The porosity of the glass vacuum tube, or lack thereof, means no atmosphere molecules are getting inside. If the pores of a vacuum tube (or old school lightbulb) are super tiny, it should be super heavy?

What's this 'super fluid' you speak of?


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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #165 on: June 15, 2020, 11:44:57 PM »


And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Any other air around us except your "atmospheric"? :)
No need for more. It's all in atmospheric, in stages. In a stack. Different molecular stages.
Quote from: Macarios
And metal objects would remain solid? :)
Yep.


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We all know for glass vacuum tubes.
There are also metal vacuum tubes. (For example "RCA 6SA7 vacuum tube - metal radio tube...")
We know for Cathode Ray tubes (in older CRT TVs and monitors).

They prove that there is no such porosity of glass and metal.
Otherwise the vacuum tubes would lose their vacuum, air would get in and the tube would stop working in less than a second.

Yet, the tubes are/were working for years, some of them for decades.

It proves nothing other than the glass can create a barrier to external dense pressure of molecules.
The pores in that glass structure would be super tiny.
super fluids would breach it.

The porosity of the glass vacuum tube, or lack thereof, means no atmosphere molecules are getting inside. If the pores of a vacuum tube (or old school lightbulb) are super tiny, it should be super heavy?

What's this 'super fluid' you speak of?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21ozi0

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #166 on: June 15, 2020, 11:47:22 PM »

Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
We can talk about electric currents later if you want.
First of all, tell me how a magnet works. a magnet in your hand...tell me how and why that works. Or admit you have no clue.
I'm giving you clues all the time but you don't seem even recognise them.

Now electrons in atoms are moving charges and so are somwhat similar to a circulating electric current.

Now something from you, thank you.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #167 on: June 15, 2020, 11:49:57 PM »

Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
We can talk about electric currents later if you want.
First of all, tell me how a magnet works. a magnet in your hand...tell me how and why that works. Or admit you have no clue.
I'm giving you clues all the time but you don't seem even recognise them.

Now electrons in atoms are moving charges and so are somwhat similar to a circulating electric current.

Now something from you, thank you.
Show me some proof that you know what you're talking about about knowing how and why magnets work?
Or just admit you have zero clue.

Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #168 on: June 15, 2020, 11:54:42 PM »

Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
We can talk about electric currents later if you want.
First of all, tell me how a magnet works. a magnet in your hand...tell me how and why that works. Or admit you have no clue.
I'm giving you clues all the time but you don't seem even recognise them.

Now electrons in atoms are moving charges and so are somwhat similar to a circulating electric current.

Now something from you, thank you.
Show me some proof that you know what you're talking about about knowing how and why magnets work?
Or just admit you have zero clue.

Show us your proof of a helium ice dome or the reflected electri sun nucleus cell.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #169 on: June 16, 2020, 12:05:50 AM »


Show us your proof of a helium ice dome or the reflected electric sun.
I can't. I can only give you the benefit of my observations by experiments and logical thoughts. What you do with that thought process, is your business.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #170 on: June 16, 2020, 12:10:50 AM »


Show us your proof of a helium ice dome or the reflected electric sun.
I can't. I can only give you the benefit of my observations by experiments and logical thoughts. What you do with that thought process, is your business.

What experiments? Please describe.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #171 on: June 16, 2020, 12:18:31 AM »


And you would like us to think that the air molecules are small enough to fit into those pores? :)
Atmospheric....yes.

Any other air around us except your "atmospheric"? :)
No need for more. It's all in atmospheric, in stages. In a stack. Different molecular stages.
Quote from: Macarios
And metal objects would remain solid? :)
Yep.


______________________________________________


Quote from: Macarios

We all know for glass vacuum tubes.
There are also metal vacuum tubes. (For example "RCA 6SA7 vacuum tube - metal radio tube...")
We know for Cathode Ray tubes (in older CRT TVs and monitors).

They prove that there is no such porosity of glass and metal.
Otherwise the vacuum tubes would lose their vacuum, air would get in and the tube would stop working in less than a second.

Yet, the tubes are/were working for years, some of them for decades.

It proves nothing other than the glass can create a barrier to external dense pressure of molecules.
The pores in that glass structure would be super tiny.
super fluids would breach it.

The porosity of the glass vacuum tube, or lack thereof, means no atmosphere molecules are getting inside. If the pores of a vacuum tube (or old school lightbulb) are super tiny, it should be super heavy?

What's this 'super fluid' you speak of?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21ozi0

Air and air molecules are not a super fluid. That has nothing to do with the lack of porosity in glass and metals. Shouldn't the vacuum tube be really heavy, no porosity and all?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #172 on: June 16, 2020, 12:25:23 AM »


Show us your proof of a helium ice dome or the reflected electric sun.
I can't. I can only give you the benefit of my observations by experiments and logical thoughts. What you do with that thought process, is your business.

What experiments? Please describe.
Well documented over time.
I've given plenty of experiments for people to do and nobody wants to follow them in how I describe, which I find weird.

I know I know, you're different...right?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #173 on: June 16, 2020, 12:27:29 AM »

Air and air molecules are not a super fluid. That has nothing to do with the lack of porosity in glass and metals. Shouldn't the vacuum tube be really heavy, no porosity and all?
The low pressure inside a TV tube is not a superfluid....you're right about that, which means the tube will hold the low pressure gases and resist the higher pressure external atmosphere.

I'm simply showing you porosity on different levels. Surely it should be more clear to you.

Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #174 on: June 16, 2020, 12:35:39 AM »


Show us your proof of a helium ice dome or the reflected electric sun.
I can't. I can only give you the benefit of my observations by experiments and logical thoughts. What you do with that thought process, is your business.

Amazing.
All of industrialized world gets along fine without resorting to crush on crush and poor analogies.
Imgaine building a skyscraper and the blue prints involve someone repeating the words crush on crush like the shining.

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #175 on: June 16, 2020, 12:42:25 AM »

Air and air molecules are not a super fluid. That has nothing to do with the lack of porosity in glass and metals. Shouldn't the vacuum tube be really heavy, no porosity and all?
The low pressure inside a TV tube is not a superfluid....you're right about that, which means the tube will hold the low pressure gases and resist the higher pressure external atmosphere.

I'm simply showing you porosity on different levels. Surely it should be more clear to you.

Surely it should be clear to you that if I had a sheet of glass above my head the vertical stack wouldn't get through to me because the pores are way, way, tiny. I could float underneath it. Like magic.

Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #176 on: June 16, 2020, 03:15:38 AM »
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It would likely break apart if you pushed each end away from centre of the object.
a) I am sorry, but I don't understand how your evidence is supposed to support your claims. Even if what you claimed were likely, it does not seem to support that there is tension in the compression of the atmospheric pressure. Can you provide evidence that actually supports your claims ?
b) You failed to answer my question. Please do.
[a) No]
a) Why do you think it is you are unable to support your claims ?
b) You forgot to answer my question.

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Have you ever wondered why it could be that you are unable to support your claims ?
[No]
I'll give you a hint : Which claims are easiest to support ? True ones of false ones ?

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I'd say it was a classic case of how alternate thinking can show a totally different thought process to mainstream indoctrinated narratives.
Jesus Christ was a gay Martian who came to earth 2000 years ago, sailing on the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.
That is another classic case of alternate thinking against mainstream indoctrinated narratives. Should such thinking be taken seriously ?
[no response]
You forgot to answer my question.

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Oceans do not curve, unless you mean waves.
And surface tension would be atmospheric pressure upon any surface with that surface resisting that pressure.
Thus are your claims, but can you prove them ?
[No]
Should sceptics take unsupported claims seriously ?

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leading to a high pressure push towards that which creates what we see as a magnetic attraction.
HOW?
I notice you just provide vague nonsense rather than any attempt at an actual explanation.
Sometimes he doesn't even provide vague nonsense.

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What total garbage! Magnetic effects have nothing to do "how much atmosphere they trap"! Where did you drag that from?
Of course it's nonsense to you. Everything I say is nonsense to you and this is why we're debating it all.
A lot of mainstream ideals are nonsense to me and this is where we're at.
So, in your worldview, there is no magnetism in (near) vacuum. Is that correct ?

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Obviously you don't but electric currents flowing in tiny loops might give you a hint.
Clearly you have no clue.
The pot calls the kettle black.

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Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
We can talk about electric currents later if you want.
First of all, tell me how a magnet works. a magnet in your hand...tell me how and why that works. Or admit you have no clue.
Ever heard that an electric current causes a magnetic field? Now what about your version?
Stop being evasive and explain how magnetism works. Rational people are beginning to think you are stalling to hide your ignorance.

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Surface tension has nothing to do with atmospheric pressure!
It has everything to do with it, otherwise there would be zero tension.
So you claim, but can you prove it ?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #177 on: June 16, 2020, 04:04:52 AM »

Air and air molecules are not a super fluid. That has nothing to do with the lack of porosity in glass and metals. Shouldn't the vacuum tube be really heavy, no porosity and all?
The low pressure inside a TV tube is not a superfluid....you're right about that, which means the tube will hold the low pressure gases and resist the higher pressure external atmosphere.

I'm simply showing you porosity on different levels. Surely it should be more clear to you.

There are no gasses inside CRT.
Otherwise the electron beam would just ionize it and wouldn't reach the screen to draw the image.
If the glass was porous gasses would enter and dissipate the beam.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #178 on: June 16, 2020, 04:17:22 AM »
Now something from you, thank you.
Show me some proof that you know what you're talking about about knowing how and why magnets work?
Or just admit you have zero clue.
Why should I bother when you post nothing?

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Re: Surface tension explains how oceans can curve doesn't it?
« Reply #179 on: June 16, 2020, 05:27:33 AM »
Now something from you, thank you.
Show me some proof that you know what you're talking about about knowing how and why magnets work?
Or just admit you have zero clue.
Why should I bother when you post nothing?

Low content, trolling post.

Pull it or recieve a warning. Thanks.

Please refrain from such postings in the future and contribute your posts constructively as relating to the OP

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