Dem Watch 2020

Each week we should bet on the next Dem to drop culminating in the foreshadowing of the DNC Nom.

Betting begins, who is the next to drop out? Each cycle is 7 days, starting with today, oddly, Tuesday. Double points for predicting a 2-fer in the week cycle. We are now in week 1. Put your bet in brackets, e.g., [Week 1 - Bennet] Vitriolic reason: Who? Something like that.

Vitriolic reasons why your pick is doomed is very much appreciated and rewarded.



My first pick:

[Week 1 - Booker] Money. Raising nothing, needs to preserve at least a minimal standing as Junior Senator to remain a senator.

Hard to say who is next. Most of them are likely to lose

I've not even heard of this Yang character in any circle. I'll bet him. He's probably a plant by the Chinese anyway trying to get America to soften up over trade, Taiwan and the South China Sea

'President Castro'. I just cant see that happening thanks to Cuba

'President Buttgieg'. Too much. Everyone will just say President Butt and that would just be embarrassing

Gabbard and Williamson look hot enough but in all likelihood it will comedown to the 2 oldest 'white men' in there. Biden vs Bloomberg. I go Bloomberg simply because after all the trouble Trump has got himself into in getting a foreign country to investigate him, it would be sucked in if it was utterly pointless.

But put me down for Yang. I dont trust that smile.

Hard to say who is next. Most of them are likely to lose

I've not even heard of this Yang character in any circle. I'll bet him. He's probably a plant by the Chinese anyway trying to get America to soften up over trade, Taiwan and the South China Sea

'President Castro'. I just cant see that happening thanks to Cuba

'President Buttgieg'. Too much. Everyone will just say President Butt and that would just be embarrassing

Gabbard and Williamson look hot enough but in all likelihood it will comedown to the 2 oldest 'white men' in there. Biden vs Bloomberg. I go Bloomberg simply because after all the trouble Trump has got himself into in getting a foreign country to investigate him, it would be sucked in if it was utterly pointless.

But put me down for Yang. I dont trust that smile.

All solid summations of the field.

Shifter down for [Week 1 - Yang]

So far we have:

[Week 1 - Booker]
[Week 1 - Yang]

None of these candidates stand a chance unless something happens to the economy: we will know more as they enter the first primaries in February, as to who is going to drop out (Williamson among the first to do so).

Even if "Trump" is impeached or nothing happens in the Senate, or he receives a simple censure vote, or if Pence becomes President, or if another Republican steps in and wins the nomination, the Democratic candidates cannot win.

Now, we know that the last economic crisis was due to the repo event in 2007:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180210192610/https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/sites/gsb/files/fin_11_17_gorton.pdf

This time around the effect of the repo crisis in September 2019 will be different: a rise in inflation, which will cause the Fed, in my opinion, to raise rates next year, either before the election, or soon after.

Why does Biden look confused on where he is at and what he is doing?

But put me down for Yang. I dont trust that smile.

You have been fooled. That is his long-term constipation face.

5 ounces of magnesium for 3 days straight and he will look like the others.

I didn't realize some of the candidates were still running, and I've never even heard of Bennet.

I'm waiting for Biden to show up for a rally in the wrong state.

I didn't realize some of the candidates were still running, and I've never even heard of Bennet.

I know, same, never heard of the guy. I think he is the equivalent of me running for the Nom.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 04, 2019, 04:04:45 PM

I didn't realize some of the candidates were still running, and I've never even heard of Bennet.

I know, same, never heard of the guy. I think he is the equivalent of me running for the Nom.

Makes you wonder if the Celine:Mom  ticket really could have a chance.   

Quote from: Stash on December 05, 2019, 05:03:26 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 04, 2019, 04:04:45 PM

I didn't realize some of the candidates were still running, and I've never even heard of Bennet.

I know, same, never heard of the guy. I think he is the equivalent of me running for the Nom.

Makes you wonder if the Celine:Mom  ticket really could have a chance.   

I think if we all here chipped in a few bucks each to the Celine:Mom ticket they would have just as much in their warchest as that Bennet guy. And probably a better chance...

https://www.fox29.com/news/amy-klobuchar-says-in-interview-she-will-declassify-ufo-documents-if-elected-president

MOUNT WASHINGTON VALLEY, N.H. - Democratic Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who is running for president in 2020, said in an interview on Monday that she would declassify UFO documents if she is elected president.

Klobuchar confirmed the promise to look into documents regarding unidentified flying objects in an interview with the Conway Daily Sun in Mount Washington Valley, New Hampshire.

“I think we don’t know enough ... I don’t know what’s happened, not just with that sighting, but with others,” she told the Sun. “And I think one of the things a president could do is to look into what’s there in terms of what does the science say; what does our military say.

Obviously the lizard people will make sure this doesn't happen.

I'm not sure if this is a case of her trying to pander to UFO nut votes, or her taking the piss because she knows she will lose.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan

Weird twitter leftists are mad at Bernie for not rejecting Joe Rogan's support. I'm not going to copy and paste the replies THERE ARE TOO MANY.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

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“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan

Weird twitter leftists are mad at Bernie for not rejecting Joe Rogan's support. I'm not going to copy and paste the replies THERE ARE TOO MANY.

Interesting take here on why or why not the Rogan endorsement is influential:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgep94/joe-rogan-bernie-sanders-endorsement?utm_source=digg

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

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“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan

Weird twitter leftists are mad at Bernie for not rejecting Joe Rogan's support. I'm not going to copy and paste the replies THERE ARE TOO MANY.

Most of the people complaining about it are Warren supporters tho. They're not mad at him for that, they're attacking him because they want Warren to get the nomination instead of him.

I have decided to endorse Bernie.

I have decided to endorse Bernie.

SMH can't believe Bernie Sanders doesn't denounce endorsements coming from the Flat Earth Society.

Lol

https://www.google.com/amp/s/politics.theonion.com/liberals-say-sanders-s-acceptance-of-rogan-endorsement-1841208921/amp

Apparently Bernie is the opponent Trump wants! https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-bernie-sanders-socialism.html?via=features

Still in the mix update (2/28/20):

I'm starting to see certain signs.  Certain shenanigans.  Not sure what to make of it.

If they steal the nomination from Sanders I think Trump instantly wins but on the plus side it annihilates the democratic party.

If they steal the nomination from Sanders

2016 all over again... Until now I thought it was just Hillary being the usual killary... However, I see now it's the damn democrat party along with their cronies (mainstream media etc) after him.

Anyone figured out why they are eating their own, especially Sanders

Whoever Sanders VP would be is someone to consider as a potential President. Sorry, its just that Sanders seems like he has one foot in the grave already and people shouldn't be expected to be a President until they die of old age. You would think there is a retirement phase first followed by a reduction in mental faculties. Some would think he's at least at the point he's better off retired

Being President is not conducive to a healthy aging. Take a look at Obama. Only 8 years apart



Can we seriously expect Sanders to fair as well?

Apparently Bernie is the opponent Trump wants! https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-bernie-sanders-socialism.html?via=features

I like how this claims he's gonna lose because of his socialism and then "proves" it by posting a poll which supposedly shows it's unpopular. Apparently this poll matters but not the ones that show Bernie winning against Trump. Most Americans reject "liberalism" too, but no one ever was like "oh, Democrats will lose unless they stop being liberals". A lot of people don't really understand these labels anyways.

This is proven by the next part of the article which says that 20% of the people who vote for Sanders previously answered they reject socialism. And then instead of the writer saying "oh, well, I guess this contradicts my hypothesis, let's look at actual polls specifically about the issue, and polls about the policies he supports" he just says "nah that's too optimistic, no way he will win". Then he claims about his policies show that they are "unpopular" or whatever as evidenced by two polls that contradict each other. Then he does the classic fallacy of "if we attract the centrists we will also get those left of center as well", which is just false. Not only is it perfectly possible for a left wing position to attract more previously right wing voters than a centrist position (that's the case with many of Sanders' policies) but also the centrist position isn't guaranteed to earn the votes for the other end either. It's funny that these writers usually are the same who blame Bernie supporters for not voting in 2016 and making Hillary lose (which wasn't even accurate back then) but they just can't connect the dots.

He also lies about Sanders supposedly not having a plan to pay for the policies, echoing the CNN debate where the moderators still acted like he didn't explain right after he did.

And yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be super convincing if Trump attacks Sanders with some silly thing about medicine he wrote 50 years ago. You know, the guy who was tweeting about vaccines causing autism (many such cases!) less than a decade ago. Wow, huge liability. It seems like the author is a Warren supporter. I guess he forgot about the "Pocahontas" thing, that's clearly not a liability at all.

That's why I hate the articles about "electability", it's never genuine, it's just "I don't like this candidate, but instead of saying that I'll just project my preference on the voters and say it's them who actually don't like the candidate".

Quote from: Crouton on January 28, 2020, 11:14:28 PM

If they steal the nomination from Sanders

2016 all over again... Until now I thought it was just Hillary being the usual killary... However, I see now it's the damn democrat party along with their cronies (mainstream media etc) after him.

Anyone figured out why they are eating their own, especially Sanders

Okay.  I'm going to put out my theory but sober this time.

My perspective as just a left of center citizen(yours may vary but bear with me); Trump as a president is an existential threat to this country.  Therefore electing anyone else is a high priority, be they democrat, independent or even another republican.  This is also the perspective that the liberal MSM holds.

From this perspective it would be madness to not support the strongest candidate.  So the left attacking Bernie doesn't make a lot of sense.

But let's look at this from a different perspective.  One where the two parties aren't a group of concerned citizens trying to run this country as best they can but from the perspective of these two parties being merely corporations.  These corporations only want power.  The well being of the nation is a secondary concern.  If promoting the well being helps them stay in power they'll promote it.  If harming the well being helps them stay in power then they'll harm it. 

From this perspective it would be unwise to prefer Bernie over Trump.  Bernie is not an employee of this corporation.  He just pretends to be during election time.  Moreover his policies waste valuable money on the regular citizens in ways that aren't the best bang for the buck for keeping democrats in power.  Trump on the other hand is fantastic for the democrats.  He scares the hell out of the left and gets them to actually donate money and show up for elections.

I know it sounds a little jaded and conspiratorial but looking at it this way, you'd see why it's probably in the best interest to sink Bernie even if it gives us another 4 years of Trump.

Trump on the other hand is fantastic for the democrats.

Indeed, that is why they actively supported him.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/fileid/1120/251 (or google "pied piper candidate")

Romney is winning by a landslide!!!

Well shit, the only Dem I actually like, and would vote for (Andrew Yang) will quite possibly be out soon.

That sucks....

The current selection available, guess it's Trump again.

Democrats.... Winning the election for Republicans since 2016

I like Yang also.  What do you like about him?