Your thoughts on Elon musk?

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2022, 10:36:06 PM »
Elon Musk will bring a new age of man; an age of despair and destitution and of subjugation to the evil powers that be.

It is difficult to argue with this. That lithium he's obsessed with has to be mined somehow, and I don't think Elon gives a shit that children are doing it in forced slave labour at gunpoint in developing countries.

That's just one aspect of his business. Elon is a net negative overall and that's even when you don't consider his character is simply repugnant. Calls a guy who risked his life to rescue children a pedo simply because he didn't let him get away with using the incident as a marketing tool to boost his ego and profile and rightly shut him and his shitty idea down

His antics are brand recognition destroying. When I see a Tesla car on the road, I don't think 'great human, thinking about the climate'. I think 'what an arsehole'. And that's all on Elon

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #151 on: July 04, 2022, 08:14:28 AM »
Elon Musk will bring a new age of man; an age of despair and destitution and of subjugation to the evil powers that be.

It is difficult to argue with this. That lithium he's obsessed with has to be mined somehow, and I don't think Elon gives a shit that children are doing it in forced slave labour at gunpoint in developing countries.

That's just one aspect of his business. Elon is a net negative overall and that's even when you don't consider his character is simply repugnant. Calls a guy who risked his life to rescue children a pedo simply because he didn't let him get away with using the incident as a marketing tool to boost his ego and profile and rightly shut him and his shitty idea down

His antics are brand recognition destroying. When I see a Tesla car on the road, I don't think 'great human, thinking about the climate'. I think 'what an arsehole'. And that's all on Elon

Yes, because Elon made them buy his product....
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« Reply #152 on: July 04, 2022, 08:35:14 AM »
Elon Musk will bring a new age of man; an age of despair and destitution and of subjugation to the evil powers that be.

It is difficult to argue with this. That lithium he's obsessed with has to be mined somehow, and I don't think Elon gives a shit that children are doing it in forced slave labour at gunpoint in developing countries.

That's just one aspect of his business. Elon is a net negative overall and that's even when you don't consider his character is simply repugnant. Calls a guy who risked his life to rescue children a pedo simply because he didn't let him get away with using the incident as a marketing tool to boost his ego and profile and rightly shut him and his shitty idea down

His antics are brand recognition destroying. When I see a Tesla car on the road, I don't think 'great human, thinking about the climate'. I think 'what an arsehole'. And that's all on Elon

Yes, because Elon made them buy his product....

There are other options these days. You do not need to buy an overpriced and overhyped Tesla to buy an electric car.

Also electric cars are boring. Coming from a guy who had a 400rwkw twin turbo 300zx, I can assure you that a large part of the 'thrill' is the auditory experience. The roar of the engine, the sound of the exhaust, the spool of the turbos and the whoosh or flutter of the the blow off valve. In a EV? Just silence. How lame.

My friend has a Tesla and it's a bucket of shit. To drive interstate (1200km) it took 3 days and quite the scenic route to get to me (much more than 1200km). He had to plan his route where charging stations were. When he got there, he had to wait hours to charge. And if one other person was charging at the same time, his wait time doubled. And you get pissed if the muppet in front of you drives a few km/h under the speed limit or doesn't pay attention those few seconds when the light goes green lol.....

My car at the time ran on diesel and could have made the 1200km trip on a single tank of fuel. (you'd fill up once to not cut it close while you have a rest). I could leave early morning and get there by the evening. The Tesla might have quick acceleration but its a slow POS to arrive anywhere long distance. Run out of juice? You need to get towed home lol

EV cars are the future eventually, but I pity these early adopters who are helping to pave the way for the rest of it to be cheaper and mainstream. Remember when a shitty standard definition and sub 50" plasma TV cost $20K? LOL. Dumbarses actually paid for those lol


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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #153 on: July 04, 2022, 08:48:58 AM »
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #154 on: July 04, 2022, 11:55:20 AM »
A lot of evs pipe in fake acceleration noises.

A lot of gasoline powered cars do this to.

It's like they think we're stupid.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #155 on: July 04, 2022, 01:00:54 PM »
A lot of evs pipe in fake acceleration noises.

I think this is statutory in some places, including the UK

"From 1 July 2021, all new electric and hybrid vehicles registered in the UK need to have a sound generator installed to make a sound similar to a conventional engine."

Only when below 20 km/h though.
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« Reply #156 on: July 04, 2022, 01:27:08 PM »
It's like they think we're stupid.
In a lot of cases, they aren't wrong.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2022, 01:31:38 PM »
There's the safety aspect of it at low speeds which I fully agree with.  My car was built before there were these laws.
 I have to be very mindful of pedestrians since it's really easy to sneak up on them.  This is something that happens a lot in parking lots.  I'm trying to find a space.  Someone is walking in front of me.  I don't want to honk because it seems rude.  Then the pedestrian does a sort of sideways glance followed by a much faster head turn.  Always followed by a slight panicked reaction.

There's also just fake noises that happen all the time with certain vehicles.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2022, 01:36:42 PM »

There are other options these days. You do not need to buy an overpriced and overhyped Tesla to buy an electric car.


Sort of.  There's a lot of great EVs coming out but if you want to drive any of these long distance you're stuck with Tesla.  Any other fast charging network is just not reliable enough to be useful.  This will slowly get better but this is the reality at this time.
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« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2022, 03:07:27 PM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car. And you could also use your cars battery to power your home at night if you didn't need all that range all the time

Also Tesla making it so only their charging stations could be used exclusively for Tesla's model cars is a dick move and only showcases he's business first, climate second. Imagine if your average car designed their fuel tank in such a way you were restricted to only using a particular brand of fuel because the nozzle wouldn't fit. Or your phone charger using a unique charging port so that you can't use a regular usb cable.... Oh hey Apple.....

How much fuel and thus carbon/pollutants could be spared if governments also invested more in mass public transportation? Or workplaces allowing a work from home to positions that were possible to do so?

Our capitalist society demands we spend. Having free energy from the sun will not do because companies lose money. In fact here, consumers will soon be charged if they put energy into the grid. And of course, why work from home when you can spend $50 a week on petrol and another $50 in tolls and another $100 in parking fees.....

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #160 on: July 04, 2022, 05:24:44 PM »
I agree about the charging stations.  I would support forcing a standard.

There's a better way to go about this shift in fossil fuels.  It's the plug in hybrid.  A fraction of the size of the battery.  No fast charging network necessary.  No range anxiety.  Still eliminates the vast majority of the vehicles fossil fuel usage.  I think we glossed over this option too quickly.
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« Reply #161 on: July 04, 2022, 05:57:02 PM »
I agree about the charging stations.  I would support forcing a standard.
Either that or adapters.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #162 on: July 04, 2022, 06:18:34 PM »


They should all play this when you pull up on a pedestrian.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #163 on: July 05, 2022, 03:10:02 AM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car.
Im getting solar installed this week, but not for a car. Failing government is plenty incentive to be self sufficent.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #164 on: July 05, 2022, 08:25:50 AM »
That bad?  Are you also getting a battery backup?
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« Reply #165 on: July 05, 2022, 09:05:37 AM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car.
Im getting solar installed this week, but not for a car. Failing government is plenty incentive to be self sufficent.
You think Biden been a bit crap means the electricity will go off?
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« Reply #166 on: July 05, 2022, 09:22:29 AM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car.
Im getting solar installed this week, but not for a car. Failing government is plenty incentive to be self sufficent.
You think Biden been a bit crap means the electricity will go off?

From what I remember, he's from South Africa - I wonder if they are more proactive on renewable energy targets than America?

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #167 on: July 05, 2022, 11:37:07 AM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car.
Im getting solar installed this week, but not for a car. Failing government is plenty incentive to be self sufficent.
You think Biden been a bit crap means the electricity will go off?

From what I remember, he's from South Africa - I wonder if they are more proactive on renewable energy targets than America?
Yes, I'm from South Africa. And in theory we have renewable goals. In practice, we have 4 hour power cuts a day, so we are incentiviced to solve our own problems
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« Reply #168 on: July 06, 2022, 01:43:55 AM »
A pity there is not much more enthusiasm by the general pleb and indeed a lot if governments for renewable energy like solar power. People's rooftop solar and battery could charge their car.
Im getting solar installed this week, but not for a car. Failing government is plenty incentive to be self sufficent.
You think Biden been a bit crap means the electricity will go off?

From what I remember, he's from South Africa - I wonder if they are more proactive on renewable energy targets than America?
Yes, I'm from South Africa. And in theory we have renewable goals. In practice, we have 4 hour power cuts a day, so we are incentiviced to solve our own problems
Ah, sorry, presumed you were a yank.  Solar panels sound sensible, especially with all that sun.
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« Reply #169 on: July 06, 2022, 03:30:55 AM »
Ah, sorry, presumed you were a yank.  Solar panels sound sensible, especially with all that sun.
Where I live, we have about 25% overcast days of the year. We recently got a 300mm in 24 hour rain fall. The sunny places are far more North West from where I am. But like everywhere else on earth, really depends on which part of the continent. I can literally go from -10'C in the snow to 20'C on the beach within a few hours drive from where I am right now.
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« Reply #170 on: July 06, 2022, 04:57:41 AM »
Ha, me making more presumptions.

Have you got storage set up?   You reckon you could go off grid with the 75% sunny days?
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« Reply #171 on: July 06, 2022, 08:55:11 AM »
I read awhile back that snow is good for solar power because it reflects the sunlight. I guess it would be a pain to keep the snow off the panels, though.
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« Reply #172 on: July 06, 2022, 10:25:26 AM »
Ha, me making more presumptions.

Have you got storage set up?   You reckon you could go off grid with the 75% sunny days?
Going about 80% off, 20% on. Grid tied system.
Solar geyser already with gas for cooking, so that takes most of the load off.
The only things the grid still runs are my ovens and back up water heating if its especially overcast, but I can live without it.
Getting my ovens on a battery system will almost double the investment cost.
With Solar, I only need about 5kwh of LiFe storage. But will see how it goes, can expand if needed.
Oh, no aircons, that helps a lot.

I read awhile back that snow is good for solar power because it reflects the sunlight. I guess it would be a pain to keep the snow off the panels, though.
The only issue I see here is that snow tends to be on the ground, and your panels point up. Maybe in very Northern areas your panels are always at an angle.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #173 on: July 08, 2022, 04:01:17 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/tech/elon-musk-twitter-deal-exit/index.html

And it's off.

Let's all take a minute to appreciate the genius of Elon Musk and how he incinerator a third of TSLA's value while engaging in what's likely to be a bruising court battle with a meaningless social media website.
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« Reply #174 on: July 08, 2022, 04:43:43 PM »
He got his name on the headlines for a while. Pretty sure Elon's ego will think the billions lost was worth it

Maybe he'll start his own 'Truth Social' network lol. Or offer to buy that one up now lol

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #175 on: July 08, 2022, 04:45:25 PM »
He got his name on the headlines for a while. Pretty sure Elon's ego will think the billions lost was worth it

Maybe he'll start his own 'Truth Social' network lol. Or offer to buy that one up now lol

I doubt his ego is under any threat.

Once you have 100 billion dollars does it really matter if that number is 120 or 80?  His life isn't going to change one bit even if he lost 90% of his wealth. He'd still be obscenely rich.

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« Reply #176 on: July 08, 2022, 05:34:45 PM »
He got his name on the headlines for a while. Pretty sure Elon's ego will think the billions lost was worth it

Maybe he'll start his own 'Truth Social' network lol. Or offer to buy that one up now lol

I doubt his ego is under any threat.

Once you have 100 billion dollars does it really matter if that number is 120 or 80?  His life isn't going to change one bit even if he lost 90% of his wealth. He'd still be obscenely rich.

True but his wealth is also calculated in stocks. It's not like he can go to a bank and withdraw 50 billion dollars to go and spend

Elon's name is getting toxic. His trust and reputation are damaging to his other business interests like Tesla. Elon is a guy that can lose billions in revenue just for being a dick. And he's being quite the dick

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #178 on: July 08, 2022, 06:10:41 PM »
There's that.  Both sides have the ability to make this fight long, painful and expensive.  It might end with some kind of compromise.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #179 on: July 08, 2022, 11:49:34 PM »
SpaceX is a company for making wasteful rockets to appease their dictator.
Actually, SpaceX rockets are currently the most efficient and cost effective rockets in the industry.
Citation needed. And I don't mean some crappy preaching site taking the word of Musk as fact.
Also in regards to the reusable rockets vs non-reusable ones.
Especially as the figures I was able to obtain previously indicate that non-reusable rockets have a cheaper cost per kg to orbit.