San Jose to Modesto: 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~

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San Jose to Modesto: 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« on: January 26, 2018, 11:18:38 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 11:22:50 PM »
Trick question. People traveling from Modesto to San Jose hitchhike.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 11:38:10 PM »
For car it takes 2.5 hours. So for 156 km real distance....? Possibly hitchhiking by *helicopter* ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 11:42:57 PM »
If you pick up a hitchhiker from Modesto, you are getting robbed and killed.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2018, 03:17:11 AM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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What point are you trying to make?

How does this have anything to do with your delusions?

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2018, 07:05:24 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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What point are you trying to make?

How does this have anything to do with your delusions?

An airplane flies with "172 kph" :o ... Good job! ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2018, 07:09:06 PM »
No, the airplane's speed is normal.
Yet the distance information is BoLLoCk

So is (((( Globe Model )))) ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 08:36:02 PM »
An airplane flies with "172 kph" :o ... Good job! ~
You mean a completely unspecified plane, complete with takeoff and landing (which is much slower than cruise speed)?

No, the airplane's speed is normal.
Yet the distance information is BoLLoCk

So is (((( Globe Model )))) ~
Nope, the distance information is correct and can easily be verified.

So I take it this is just another display of your pathetic ignorance.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2018, 03:13:18 PM »
If Jack says "you pathetic, or delutional, or lying" that's a good news.
You've got the truth which is the reverse of what he said. ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2018, 03:24:28 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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What point are you trying to make?

How does this have anything to do with your delusions?

An airplane flies with "172 kph" :o ... Good job! ~
That's about right for most private aircraft. What kind of plane are you really talking about?

Mike
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2018, 06:41:30 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
What point are you trying to make?

How does this have anything to do with your delusions?

An airplane flies with "172 kph" :o ... Good job! ~
That's about right for most private aircraft. What kind of plane are you really talking about?

Mike

Any airplane will be categorized 'odd' when having such a snail speed for commercial flight. (but most passengers don't realize it).
Moreover, what is the reason to believe the car speed is just 86:2.5=34.4 kph? 2.5 hours of road vehicle time or 36 minutes of air vehicle time is "more logical to accept" than 86 km of distance. For figuring out, start from trip time, and the better is road trip time.
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 07:32:46 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
What point are you trying to make?

How does this have anything to do with your delusions?

An airplane flies with "172 kph" :o ... Good job! ~
That's about right for most private aircraft. What kind of plane are you really talking about?

Mike

Any airplane will be categorized 'odd' when having such a snail speed for commercial flight. (but most passengers don't realize it).
Moreover, what is the reason to believe the car speed is just 86:2.5=34.4 kph? 2.5 hours of road vehicle time or 36 minutes of air vehicle time is "more logical to accept" than 86 km of distance. For figuring out, start from trip time, and the better is road trip time.
Or you could look at your own link and see that it includes takeoff and landing as well as taxi time on the runway.  A little further research would let you find that short flights like that would likely not use jet airliners but rather much smaller and slower turboprop aircraft used by regional airlines.  Then you could also actually LOOK at your link and see that it even says it is an example using a private plane.  You could have also actually looked at the link you gave and seen that the car does not go 86 km.  It has to go 142 km because roads can't take a straight path like an airplane can.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 01:32:06 AM »
Wow the gap between 154 & 86 is too HUGE.

Thank you for revealing the severe contradiction ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 02:56:14 AM »
If Jack says "you pathetic, or delutional, or lying" that's a good news.
You've got the truth which is the reverse of what he said. ~
Or it means simply what I have said.
Notice how you are completely incapable of defending your baseless claims and instead need to resort to pathetic ad-homs to dismiss those that refute you?
That shows quite clearly that you are not correct.

Any airplane will be categorized 'odd' when having such a snail speed for commercial flight. (but most passengers don't realize it).
Not when you consider just how small the distance is.

Moreover, what is the reason to believe the car speed is just 86:2.5=34.4 kph?
There is none.
The roads do not follow a direct route between the 2 locations. It is a much longer distance to drive.

Wow the gap between 154 & 86 is too HUGE.

Thank you for revealing the severe contradiction ~
No it isn't.
There is no contradiction here.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 05:07:07 AM »
Wow the gap between 154 & 86 is too HUGE.

Thank you for revealing the severe contradiction ~
Roads that curve around versus directly straight with a plane.  so what?  The only issue I see is you trying to find problems where none exist.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2018, 07:24:34 AM »
~ TRY AGAIN ~
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2018, 07:31:19 AM »
~ TRY AGAIN ~
Yes, you should.  It looks like you have no clue what you're talking about.  The link you provided even shows the roads don't go straight.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2018, 09:44:54 AM »
Now I want clarification about different versions of earth radius.
Which one is true?
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2018, 12:58:20 PM »
~ TRY AGAIN ~
You are the one that keeps on failing.
But how about this. Stop trying.
Instead of just coming up with crap to try and fail at showing a problem with the globe or at showing your model is correct; stop and analyse the available evidence and realise it indicates Earth is round, or come up with a rational argument which you think shows it isn't.


Now I want clarification about different versions of earth radius.
Which one is true?
Earth is not a perfectly symmetrical spherical shell.
As such several radii can describe it.
Due to the asymmetry caused by the rotation of Earth (and to a lesser extent the non-homogenous distribution of mas), the radii in each direction is different.
The equatorial radii are larger than the polar radii, and you also have other radii all over Earth.
You then have the issue of the layers.
The inner and outer core, the mantle, the crust, the seal level and the atmosphere all have different radii and some are not very clear cut.
The crust goes down quite far reaching deep into the Mariana Trench, 11 km (note: even though this is the deepest ocean, this is too close to the equator too be the closest to the centre of Earth, it is much closer to the centre of Earth in the Arctic and Antarctic sea) and goes protudes high into the sky to the tip of mount everest.
The interface between the layers is not always smooth.
For sea level you have the issue of tides also deforming it.
But perhaps the hardest is the atmosphere (and the layers within it) which was once done as an arbitrary line in the sand 100 km above sea level, even though the thermosphere extends to 500-1000 km, before we have the exosphere which is commonly taken as space.

So it isn't a simple case of Earth having a true radius.
It has a variety which can be used to explain it.
However for most purposes, as it is a rocky planet the most useful radii is that of the surface, taken at a non-arbitrary level, which places it at mean sea level (any other line we pick along the surface will be rather arbitrary, unless we determine the crust composition very accurately such that we can virtually smooth it out), either as an oblate spheroid with an equatorial and polar radii, or as a sphere with a mean radius (of 6371 km).

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2018, 01:08:08 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2018, 11:27:52 AM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

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Perhaps Andromeda getten closer and it pulled some cities. We call it as Andromeda effect.

We have a lot of lies for idiots. :)
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2018, 04:30:55 PM »
~ TRY AGAIN ~
You are the one that keeps on failing.
But how about this. Stop trying.
Instead of just coming up with crap to try and fail at showing a problem with the globe or at showing your model is correct; stop and analyse the available evidence and realise it indicates Earth is round, or come up with a rational argument which you think shows it isn't.


Now I want clarification about different versions of earth radius.
Which one is true?
Earth is not a perfectly symmetrical spherical shell.
As such several radii can describe it.
Due to the asymmetry caused by the rotation of Earth (and to a lesser extent the non-homogenous distribution of mas), the radii in each direction is different.
The equatorial radii are larger than the polar radii, and you also have other radii all over Earth.
You then have the issue of the layers.
The inner and outer core, the mantle, the crust, the seal level and the atmosphere all have different radii and some are not very clear cut.
The crust goes down quite far reaching deep into the Mariana Trench, 11 km (note: even though this is the deepest ocean, this is too close to the equator too be the closest to the centre of Earth, it is much closer to the centre of Earth in the Arctic and Antarctic sea) and goes protudes high into the sky to the tip of mount everest.
The interface between the layers is not always smooth.
For sea level you have the issue of tides also deforming it.
But perhaps the hardest is the atmosphere (and the layers within it) which was once done as an arbitrary line in the sand 100 km above sea level, even though the thermosphere extends to 500-1000 km, before we have the exosphere which is commonly taken as space.

So it isn't a simple case of Earth having a true radius.
It has a variety which can be used to explain it.
However for most purposes, as it is a rocky planet the most useful radii is that of the surface, taken at a non-arbitrary level, which places it at mean sea level (any other line we pick along the surface will be rather arbitrary, unless we determine the crust composition very accurately such that we can virtually smooth it out), either as an oblate spheroid with an equatorial and polar radii, or as a sphere with a mean radius (of 6371 km).

Thanks, next I'll ask you again in other matters
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2018, 04:37:59 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 04:44:20 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)

Perhaps Andromeda getten closer and it pulled some cities. We call it as Andromeda effect.

We have a lot of lies for idiots. :)

Wow Andromeda effect! If going to Chicago takes 50 minutes, the distance is only "117 km", the speed is "140 kph" and the departure is from South Bend, so this will be called BEND EFFECT :o  8)
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2018, 04:55:38 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
A very short distance that wouldn't likely be flown with a jet but rather with a turboprop aircraft. That never gets up to speed or even likely above 10,000 feet (you did know there is a speed limit imposed by the FAA below 10,000 feet, right?). Flying into a heavy traffic area where they are likely to have hold time before landing.  And do we know if the time is flight time only or includes taxi time on both ends (more likely).  So where's the problem?
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2018, 06:31:49 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
About 100 miles.  Again I've driven this.  The time varies wildly depending on traffic, but yeah, about 100 miles.
What is your point?

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2018, 11:15:55 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
About 100 miles.  Again I've driven this.  The time varies wildly depending on traffic, but yeah, about 100 miles.
What is your point?

More than 100 miles, right? Even if it's just 100 miles for 1.26°, that means 15° at that position EXCEEDS Equator's size for the same 15°. Phew FE map is right.
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2018, 11:20:43 PM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
A very short distance that wouldn't likely be flown with a jet but rather with a turboprop aircraft. That never gets up to speed or even likely above 10,000 feet (you did know there is a speed limit imposed by the FAA below 10,000 feet, right?). Flying into a heavy traffic area where they are likely to have hold time before landing.  And do we know if the time is flight time only or includes taxi time on both ends (more likely).  So where's the problem?

The problem is the informations based on globe is wrong. Everything will be done to support things contraditcting reality.
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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2018, 12:36:43 AM »
https://www.trippy.com/distance/Modesto-to-San-Jose-CA#airportflights

Everybody shall play Feet Ball n become Phew-Earther!  8)
Not sure what your point is.  It's about a 90 mile drive.  This is easily tested, I've done it, in fact.

What about South Bend to Chicago? Flight time is around 50 minutes.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFlightsSearchResults?geo=35805&cos=0&nonstop=no&pax0=a&travelers=1&airport0=SBN&airport1=ORD&nearby0=no&nearby1=no&date0=20180213&date1=20180220

Is it true the distance is 117 km?

Speed of 140 kph by an airplane? No way
About 100 miles.  Again I've driven this.  The time varies wildly depending on traffic, but yeah, about 100 miles.
What is your point?

More than 100 miles, right? Even if it's just 100 miles for 1.26°, that means 15° at that position EXCEEDS Equator's size for the same 15°. Phew FE map is right.
What FE map?

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Re: San Jose to Modesto: Only 36 minutes for 86 km. OSCAR for You ~
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2018, 02:54:00 AM »
What FE map?

South pole centered FE map. The grids are curved in line or projected with sun path n first sunlight after night time.
The more distance from south pole, the wider distance per 15° will be.
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