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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #240 on: January 25, 2018, 03:44:10 AM »
Auckland

There is somewhere is known as Auckland. (I hope it really exists)   ;D

Aukland LA 10.500 9.982 10.859
10:11 Air New Zealand B77w (suspicious) 894 9.104 (??)
11:56 American Airlines B789 (more reliable) 910 10.859

Aukland Perth 5.343 5.298
5:43 Air NZ A343 883
6:18 HiFly A343  883
5:49 B789 AirNZ 901
6:11 A332 Qantas cancelled, possible hoax.

Aukland Sydney 2161 2.153
A332 2:45 Qantas Qantas so ignored/deleted. Possible hoax.
A320 2:39 Jetstar 832 2.205
A343 2:22 Air NZ 860 2.035
B744 singapore airlines 2:30 (trusted) 870 2.175
B789 Lan airlines 2:30 (trusted) 879 2.198
B789 3:10 Air NZ irrevelant by others. Ignored/deleted.

Aukland Beijing 10.438 11.512 corrected as 8.639
12:39 Chinian Airlines (Trusted) B789 910

Aukland Tokyo 8.851 9.046 corrected as 6.767
10:14 Air NZ (half trusted) B772 884

Aukland Honolulu 7.097 7.278
A332 8:32 866
B772 8:08 881

Aukland Vancouer 11.373 11.193 corrected as 10.204
12:38 Air NZ B772 886 (suspicious)

Distance of 3 cities  corrected and city is selected a perfect intersections of the distance as following cities: Sydney, Perth, Honolulu.



Auckland is placed. Deceitfull routes did not get considered.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #241 on: January 25, 2018, 04:28:22 AM »
For the aim of understanding the shape of the continents, Buenos Aires and the end point Bahia Thetis added as an estimation (values are taken from google, not reliable). This will save our times.



As a result, Bahia Thetis and Buenos Aires are added. Their color chosed as a different color represant their places are not reliable and taken from google. (possible hoax)
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #242 on: January 25, 2018, 04:29:06 AM »
We'll focus on the center, now on. What are they hiding from us in the center of the earth? Time to understand it.

Firstly we understood that first 5 latitudes aren't exist! Now we'll reveal the true shape of the center.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #243 on: January 25, 2018, 04:37:59 AM »
The main challenge is:

If I true, some latitudes are hoax and first some latitudes actually are absent; the centered cities should be closer themselves. And if I'm wrong, then centered cities should be further!

Which one of these theories will be proven?



Are they right? Is there really 7.00kms distance between Anchorage and Moscow???  ???

Or am I right and may we go from Moscow to Anchorage only passina about 3.300 kms? ???



Which one of us trying to deceive people?

Am I? Or NASA, google, yandex, Qantas, Air South Africa, ISIS, PKK, FETÖ, and all badness all together?

We'll focus on solving this problem, soon...

Not now, but soon...

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #244 on: January 25, 2018, 04:56:21 AM »
Well, yes, I have been under the impression it would be ~7 000 kilometers from Moscow to Anchorage.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #245 on: January 25, 2018, 05:00:53 AM »
Well, yes, I have been under the impression it would be ~7 000 kilometers from Moscow to Anchorage.

Did you added yourself to the evil side, by completely your freewill?   :)
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #246 on: January 25, 2018, 05:05:41 AM »
It could well be Darth Vader has me by the balls!

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #247 on: January 25, 2018, 05:45:48 AM »
Ottowa

Ottowa is added in the aim of targeting the center:

Ottowa NY  530 578
0:51 680
Ottowa Vancouer 3.556 3.578 corrected as 3.020
A321 4:12 852
Ottowa Puerto Vallarta 3.976 3.795 with 3,5%correctance: 3.662
4:26 B738 856
Ottowa London 5.352 5.277 time correctance: 5.092 - 4.374
B763 6:06 865
Ottowa Boston 498 703 time correctance: 678
1:02 680

Boston rotated around NY till enough it becomes to the North.

Ottawa added as a perfect point in intersection of whole distances:





It seems Ottawa is in the west of Boston. Interesting.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #248 on: January 25, 2018, 11:16:45 AM »
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #249 on: January 25, 2018, 12:41:42 PM »


7.011,07

reverse is same numbers. Oh what a satanic job. Proved. It is imaginary. Even satanic imaginary.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #250 on: January 25, 2018, 01:09:16 PM »
Move ends of measuring lines accidentally for one pixel, and you will get different digits.
Error will still be within city, only moved from one suburb to another.
What is "satanic" in it?
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #251 on: January 25, 2018, 10:01:12 PM »
Move ends of measuring lines accidentally for one pixel, and you will get different digits.
Error will still be within city, only moved from one suburb to another.
What is "satanic" in it?

remove comma from 7011,07 and read it from reverse.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #252 on: January 25, 2018, 10:12:24 PM »
"Tollot"?

That's plural of "dumbass" in Finnish.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #253 on: January 25, 2018, 10:22:37 PM »
Halifax

Halifax   London 4.589 4.480 with 3,5% time correctance 4.323
5:10 B763 867
Halifax   Boston 665 778 with time correctance 3,5% 750
1:04 729
Halifax   NY 987 1227 with 3,5% 1184 corrected as 1121
1:35 775
Halifax   Ottawa 956 1.063 time correctance 1.026 corrected as 750
1:22 778

Placing Khalifax.



Halifax is placed with a perfect estimation, full overlaps with whole distances.



Halifax is added in the project of "occupy center, destroy evil !"
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #254 on: January 25, 2018, 11:38:53 PM »
Edmonton

Edmonton for occopy the center.

Edmonton   Halifax 3.687 3.737 with time correctance: 3.605 corrected as 1.875
4:25 B737 846 3436
Edmonton   Vancouer 809 987  with time: 952
B738 1:20 747
A319 1:19 743
Edmonton   Ottawa 2.852 3.012 with time 2.907 corrected as 2.247
B737 3:37 838
E190(A319) 3:33 843
Edmonton   LA 2.437 2.554; time> 2.464
2:57 A319 840
3:06 B737 830
2:57 B748 885
Edmonton   Puerto Vallarta  3.702 4.024 time > 3.882
B738 4:31 856
B332 4:51 862
Edmonton   Denver 1.643 1.958 time >1.889
E75L 2:25 810



There is a few difference with Halifax and Ottawa flights. But its overlaps with others and stays the point of North East of Vancouer. It normally was like that. So that place is selected, distances come from Halifax and Ottawa corrected.



The number of difference Ottawa was normal; from 2.800kms to 2.200kms; but Halifax was not normal; 3.600 to 1.800kms. So the place of Halifax will be changed by new knowledge gathered by placing the Edmonton.

Halifax deleted and re drawn its circles with additional Edmonton.



Nothing is changed. There is still a perfect intersection for Halifax and only Edmonton is incompatible. I decided the pilots are running wrong between Halifax and Edmonton. It seems Canadian pilots are doing some logical mistakes between Halifax and Edmonton. There is a good route for going Halifax from Edmonton: Use the path goes to Boston or NY, it is just a bit north. The problem is; Edmonton pilots are not running to NY or Boston. So doesn't aware the path to Boston.  :o



There is numerous indirect flight. Is it because nobody in Edmonton interest to direct fly to New York ? Or it is because pilots don't know the true path!  ???

Anyway, it is their problem.  8)
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #255 on: January 26, 2018, 12:17:46 AM »
Winnipeg

Winnipeg   Edmonton 1.189 1150 with time correctance 3,5%: 1110.
1:25 B752 790
1:35 B737 775
1:26 B722 770
Winnipeg   Ottawa 1.691 1.717 with time correctance > 1.657 corrected as 1.155
B736/737 2:14 800
CRJ9 2:02 810
Winnipeg   Vancouer 1.867 1.935 with time: 1.867
2:33 B737 814
2:25 A320 819
2:06 B752 833
Winnipeg   Denver 1.261 1.541 with time : 1.487
1:57 CRJ9 790
Winnipeg   Puerto Vallarta 3.330 3.847 time correctance > 3.712 corrected as 3.512
B738 (Sunwig) 4:31 856
B738 (Air transat) 4:36
B738 (westjet) 4:22

Placing the Winnipeg:



Winnipeg is perfectly placed with 4/5 cities. Ottawa is in the right side. We lived this problem second time for America. We know that Canadian pilots are having problem when running west to the east, and east to the west. So this place is true. Distance with Ottawa is updated.



Winnipeg is added for the Glory of the God.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #256 on: January 26, 2018, 03:33:24 AM »
Move ends of measuring lines accidentally for one pixel, and you will get different digits.
Error will still be within city, only moved from one suburb to another.
What is "satanic" in it?

remove comma from 7011,07 and read it from reverse.

I know what you mean. :-)
World is full of such numbers.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #257 on: January 26, 2018, 04:24:16 AM »
Toronto

Toronto for the corrections of the whole Canada and whole world.

Toronto   Edmonton
Toronto   Ottawa
Toronto   Vancouer
Toronto   Denver
Toronto   Puerto Vallarta
Toronto   Winnipeg
Toronto   Halifax
Toronto   LA
Toronto   Puerto Vallarta
Toronto   Mexico
Toronto   KEF
Toronto   London
Toronto   Istanbul
Toronto   Lisbon
Toronto   Tel Aviv
Toronto   Delhi
Toronto   Addis Ababa
Toronto   Hong Kong
Toronto   Beijing
Toronto   Tokyo
Toronto   Manila
Toronto   Honolulu
Toronto   NY
Toronto   Denver
Toronto   Atlanta

There is connection with 25 cities! This is a kind of record. For an easy work, I'll choose spesific ones. Nearest and furthest ones.

Toronto   LA 3.498 3.834 3.700 corrected as 3.389
4:30 852
Toronto   London 5.713 5.700 5.500 Corrected as 4.610
6:20 900
Toronto   Istanbul 8.208 7.888 7.612 corrected as 6.268
8:50 893
Toronto   Hong Kong 12.562 12.992 12.537 corrected as 9.777
14:30 896
Toronto   Beijing 10.573 11.208 10.815 corrected as 7.686
12:19 910
Toronto   NY 589 957 923 Corrected as 589
1:22 700
Toronto   Denver 2.113 2.149 2074 corrected as 2.190
2:35 832
Toronto   Ottawa 357
Toronto   Atlanta 1100 Corrected as 862
Toronto   Edmonton 2.693
Toronto   Winnipeg 1.500
Toronto   Halifax 1.200
Toronto   Boston 693

I chosed 13 of all cities.



Perfectly matched. I know you did not understand anything. The important thing is the selected place must stay inside all of circles, and should be stay in about intersection of nearest cities. I'll chose a place like this:



Selected place corrects whole cities. I'll correct the further distances and find out the exact values.

First I'll type google values. If it stays outside, correct it to true value by shrinking the circle on the shape. If it stays inside, I'll correct it by using flight times.

Toronto   Vancouer 3357 corrected as same!
Toronto   Denver 2.160 corrected as same!
Toronto   Puerto Vallarta 3.504 corrected as same!
Toronto   Mexico City 3262 corrected as same!
Toronto   Rejkavik 4.195 corrected as 2.863! (support to the theory of center is smaller)
Toronto   Lisbon 5.726 corrected as 4.909
Toronto   Tel Aviv 9.268 corrected as 7.676
Toronto   Delhi 11.628 corrected as same!
Toronto   Addis Ababa 11.476 corrected as 10.431
Toronto   Tokyo 10.346 corrected as 7.550 !
Toronto   Manila 13.212 corrected as 10.316
Toronto   Honolulu 7.485 corrected as 6.126

Intersection of whole cities:



As we see that, there is a perfect intersection and all distances are true considering this place.

As a result;

Toronto is added as a perfect center of the earth that proves the whole map. Thanks Toronto!

Additional cities:

Buenos Aires 8960 corrected as 6.326
Santiago/Chile 8618 corrected as 6.099

Proves.

As a result Toronto is added and colored as green to show it proves whole map from Africa to Europe; from Asia to Ocenia, from South America to North America, shortly whole world. It will stay always green because it proves whole cities in our map. This city definitely stays here.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #258 on: January 26, 2018, 05:05:42 AM »
Calgary

We need one more strong point for attack the center.

First I'll try to arrive it with distances in the ball map. If I can't success, I'll try to use flight times.

Calgary   Vancouer   674
Calgary   Edmonton   279
Calgary   Winnipeg   1202
Calgary   Toronto   2708
Calgary   NY   3279
Calgary   LA   1934
Calgary   Honolulu   5020
Calgary   Beijing   8752
Calgary   London   7021



There is a perfect intersection with whole cities, except LA and Edmonton. Either LA, or Edmonton, or both distances are wrong in google map. We can't understand which one is true, before don't control the distances by air traffic.

So I'll consider only 4 nearest routes by air traffic. Then we'll understand which value that the google saying lie about it.

Calgary   LA   1934 2.287 3,5% 2206
B738 2:49 814
A320 2:47 819

Calgary   Edmonton   279 339 3,5% 327
B736 0:43 562
A320 0:29 569

Calgary   Winnipeg   1202 1.239 3,5% 1.195
B738 1:45 788
B721 1:25 775

Calgary   Vancouer   674  887 with 3,5% 856
B737 1:16 700
A319/320 1:16 700

Now connection is established:



Corrected distances:
Calgary   LA   1934 corrected as  2.064
Calgary   Edmonton   279 same!
Calgary   Winnipeg   1202 corrected as 1.088
Calgary   Vancouer   674 corrected as 796

As a result,

Calgary is added as one of the strong point of Canada.



Calgary will let us to attack the center.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #259 on: January 26, 2018, 05:24:32 AM »
Yellowknife

Yellowknife is added in the project of direct attacking the center.

We'll try first google distances. If we arrive a reliable result, it is ok. If we could not to do; so use the flight times as a joker.  8)



Yellowknife   Toronto   3067   corrected as   same
Yellowknife   Calgary   1267   corrected as   same
Yellowknife   Vancouer   1563   corrected as   1655
Yellowknife   Edmonton   992   corrected as   same



As a result, yellowknife is added in the aimn of attack the center. It is colored as magentha for show using datas only taken from ball/fake map. We may correct it, if requered. But it seems fair enough.

I'm using ball map values but only if a flight exist. Because if a flight exist, that path acceptable as corrected. At least it can't be a lot of wrong. (This method doesn't work in China, Russia and India)
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #260 on: January 27, 2018, 01:58:43 AM »
I am following this project with great interest.
I do however have some questions.
You have explained the different distances between Google and self calculated between 2 chinese cities and 2 Russian cities. They both have almost same flight time although one distance is half the others.
Surely you cannot apply the same flight conditions to 2 different flights? Should one not calculate the averages for each flight separately?
Here are some factors as I see it:
The time for takeoff to cruising speed will be the same for all flights.
The time from slowing down to landing will be the same for all flights.
That will mean that the longer the flight the longer the plane can fly at its average speed and therefor the calculation would show a higher average than on a shorter flight where the plane flies for a shorter time at its average speed. the times of take off and landing on a 10000km flight will have a tiny impact on the average speed compared to that on a 500km flight?

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #261 on: January 27, 2018, 10:55:50 AM »
I am following this project with great interest.
I do however have some questions.
You have explained the different distances between Google and self calculated between 2 chinese cities and 2 Russian cities. They both have almost same flight time although one distance is half the others.
Surely you cannot apply the same flight conditions to 2 different flights? Should one not calculate the averages for each flight separately?
Here are some factors as I see it:
The time for takeoff to cruising speed will be the same for all flights.
The time from slowing down to landing will be the same for all flights.
That will mean that the longer the flight the longer the plane can fly at its average speed and therefor the calculation would show a higher average than on a shorter flight where the plane flies for a shorter time at its average speed. the times of take off and landing on a 10000km flight will have a tiny impact on the average speed compared to that on a 500km flight?

The flights have same average distances are compared the flights have same average distances. The chart in first page is created for this aim. Please follow more carefully. The average speed for per aircraft are calculated for per distance. Thanks for your interest.



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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #262 on: January 27, 2018, 01:08:55 PM »
Singapore is 1.35 degrees north.
Easily proven with sun directly over head on Mar 24 and Sep 19.

Sao Paulo is 23.4 degrees south.
Easily proven with Sun directly over head for winter solstice.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #263 on: January 28, 2018, 11:34:40 AM »
Singapore is 1.35 degrees north.
Easily proven with sun directly over head on Mar 24 and Sep 19.

Sao Paulo is 23.4 degrees south.
Easily proven with Sun directly over head for winter solstice.

can you be more clear?

Another little thing: Where did you see a "degree" in our map and talk about degrees.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #264 on: January 28, 2018, 12:25:00 PM »
Singapore is 1.35 degrees north.
Easily proven with sun directly over head on Mar 24 and Sep 19.

Sao Paulo is 23.4 degrees south.
Easily proven with Sun directly over head for winter solstice.

can you be more clear?

Another little thing: Where did you see a "degree" in our map and talk about degrees.

If Equator is at distance of 90 degrees from North pole,
it means Singapore is 88.65 degrees from there,
and Sao Paulo is 113.4 degrees from there.
Therefore, Sao Paulo should be placed 28% farther from North Pole than Singapore.

When I pasted your map into drawing program and drew circle around North pole through Singapore,
Sao Paulo was just about 6% farther than Singapore, instead of 28%.

Hope this could help in your work.

I respect your effort to do something concretely, instead of just theoretizing.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #265 on: January 28, 2018, 09:37:11 PM »
Singapore is 1.35 degrees north.
Easily proven with sun directly over head on Mar 24 and Sep 19.

Sao Paulo is 23.4 degrees south.
Easily proven with Sun directly over head for winter solstice.

can you be more clear?

Another little thing: Where did you see a "degree" in our map and talk about degrees.

If Equator is at distance of 90 degrees from North pole,
it means Singapore is 88.65 degrees from there,
and Sao Paulo is 113.4 degrees from there.
Therefore, Sao Paulo should be placed 28% farther from North Pole than Singapore.

When I pasted your map into drawing program and drew circle around North pole through Singapore,
Sao Paulo was just about 6% farther than Singapore, instead of 28%.

Hope this could help in your work.

I respect your effort to do something concretely, instead of just theoretizing.

Ok, I understand. The whole thing is a country stay north, if actually in the north; or stay south if stays south. I aware some cities are closer or further to "hot line" than shown in the ball map and I explained those differences:

"Hot line" is added. Center of the earth is re-placed.



We have 14 circles represant the equator line. 9/14 cities are perfectly overlaps with this line. The remain ones nedd to be examined:

Sao Paolo and Santiago: Sao Paolo seems out of the circle (southern side). Although it seems closer to the "hot line", at least it is out with hot line with Santiago. No correction is made.
Sydney: Seems in the southern side of the hot line. Although it seems closer to the hot line, but we don't know real hot line on globe map been true or not. So this place is fair enough.
New Delhi: Our map shows Delhi should be placed more north*. This is relevant with real India is greater than shown in the ball map. So actually this place is perfectly true.
Addis Ababa and Johannesburg: Johannesburg seems on the hot line and Addis Ababa seems in the Northern semicircle. This should be corrected. As I examined that, Luanda line may be accepted as hot line. It is about 1.000 kms North of the Johannesburg. So Johannesburg, with Addis Ababa moved through South 1.000kms as an "hot line correction"



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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #266 on: January 28, 2018, 10:29:07 PM »
Whitehorse
Whitehorse   Yellowknife   1100
Whitehorse   Edmonton   1515
Whitehorse   Calgary   1679
Whitehorse   Vancouer   1476

Whitehorse is added.

Baker Lake
Baker Lake   Winnipeg   1603
Baker Lake   Yellowknife   932

Baker Lake is added.

Iqaluit
Iqaluit   Ottawa   2091
Iqaluit   Rankin Inlet   1176 (Baker Lake)

Take care where is Iqaluit?

Lets control. Are Whitehorse, yellowknife, Baker Lake and Iqalit in the same line?



It is corrected. We're still on true way.

Control us what we done:

According to our map; Rejkavik is so far to the north, according to Iqaluit. And Iqalit is a near place to North.  Ok. Lets look to ball map:



According to our map, Iqaluit stays about "1.400kms north" of the Rejkavik.

And according to google, Iqaluit stays on same latitude with Rejkavik. How interesting.



So according to our map, there will be much more differences between these cities. Becauxe Iqaluit stays in the North and should be colder than Rejkavik. But according to google map, they both sea side cities stay in same latitude. So their air conditions should be about same, if we consider ball/google map.

Lets look the weather.

Today, my city Istanbul is 6 degrees celcius. It is a January cold.



Rejkavik:



In Rejkavik, today the weather is 0 degrees. It maybe snow, or not. Yeah, Rejkavik is colder than Istanbul.

Ok, lets look to the other one.



Oh, this is a deadly cold man. They can't be on the same latitude!

Ok. Google map is disproven. I'll open a topic about it. Ahahahah. Google how are they stay on same latitude? Cmon, don't say lie to people!
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #267 on: January 28, 2018, 10:50:04 PM »
I respect your effort to do something concretely, instead of just theoretizing.

Now. Please prove Rejkavik and Iqaluit why can't be on the same latitude and disprove google. Go, lets do it. If you are sincere, honest man, you must do that.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #268 on: January 28, 2018, 11:01:57 PM »


Added Whitehorse, Baker Lake and Iqaluit as north of the Canada. Disproven google map claims Iqaluit and Rejkavik on same latitude by comparing air temperatures. They are obviously different.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #269 on: January 28, 2018, 11:19:31 PM »
Anchorage has moved to the south as 500kms, because of the air conditions.  8)

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