One weird Question: Please answer sensibly

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2017, 12:04:30 PM »
I'm surprised it makes sense to you .

Heliocentric's like you speak nonsense .

All I am asking, is where you are coming up with your "Millions" number... Is there a source you can cite other than Youtube?


In the so called west there are millions of people that believe in the flat plane .

What makes you think the rest of the world will believe the white man's lies ?

That is an interesting point... the resurgence of FE belief was probably started by a white man... and I would be willing to bet you that the rest of the world does not "Believe" in the White Mans FE Theory...

Just to clarify I'm not a racist their are liars in all races this modern Heliocentric theory that has been around about 170 years was contested and refuted by many white men .

No you are incorrect .

As I have said above most people of the world know the truth .

Your are partially correct it was probably a white man who started the modern flat earth theory for the west .

However ...

The rest of the world has never believed the white man's BS .

Was'nt it the Red Indians who said the white man speaks with forked tongue .

Lol .

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2017, 12:04:59 PM »
Bible myths aside it still wouldnt be that way. The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population. Most FErs in the USA are bible thumper creationists country folk.
Why exactly do you think most USA flat earthers are bible thumper creationist country folk? Do you have any data to back this up or are you just being a dick?
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2017, 12:07:15 PM »
Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
The majority of the world believe in the  flat plane .

The Chinese know the world is flat as do all nations in the far east .

Africans know the world is flat .

Indians know the world is flat .



Yes it is impossible to prove what people believe .

Dude... I'm not following your logic...

I suggest if you are that bothered you have a conversation with a normal person...  Oh, And I'm VEGAN!!!!

Gotcha...

That's because you Heliocentrics are illogical .

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2017, 12:14:03 PM »
and you're vegan...

lol
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2017, 01:22:09 PM »
and you're vegan...

lol

and you're vegan...

lol

And you're a bell end...

Lol .

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2017, 01:34:21 PM »

It is impossible to prove what people believe as more ofteN than not people will just tell you what you want to hear .

I suggest if you are that bothered you have a conversation with a normal person from one of these nations .

That means they can't be working for you or doing business with you if you have a conversation with someone on a level with you the truth will come out .

The people of these nations only go along with your BS ( whilst laughing behind your backs ) because it is financially viable if you have no power or leverage over them it will soon become apparent what they think about all of your bollocks .

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

you just claimed before that most of the people believe that the earth is flat.
now you state that it is impossible to prove what all the people believe.

you just admit that you base you believes on something you can not prove.
and if you can not prove it you can not say that you are correct.

therefore your whole statement above is completely bullshit.

it nice to see how you prove yourself wrong.

Yes it is impossible to prove what people believe .

Why don't you go to Africa and do an Internet poll and a hard back survey .

If you come back you can share your results .

Lol.

Lol.

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

you claim to know the quantity of people how believe in a flat earth therefore its up to you to show us proof for you claim.

i look at the number of members in this forum
the total number of members is 11739
if i don't count the ones with no posts its down to 9008

unfortunately i can not look up who is a FEIB and who not, but with the posts is see here it looks almost like there are less FEIB than nonBelivers.
that would bring the number down to under 4500

not very many Believers.
Hmm, that makes about 38% of the forum FE believers in some manner. Didn't R.I.F. say 38% of the US believes in FE just the other day? Coincidence? Or Conspiracy? Hmmm.......

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2017, 02:38:13 PM »
Bible myths aside it still wouldnt be that way. The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population. Most FErs in the USA are bible thumper creationists country folk.

You speak nonsense .

The majority of the world believe in the  flat plane .

The Chinese know the world is flat as do all nations in the far east .

Africans know the world is flat .

Indians know the world is flat .

It is only in the so called west that people have believed the world to be a globe for the past 120 years .

In the 19th century in Britain people where taught that the Earth is flat with waters above and waters below .

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Can you back up those statements?  Have you been to any of those places and asked?  I have been to them and I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

My nieces and nephews used to believe in Santa when they asked what he was bringing me for Xmas I didn't tell them he didn't exist .

The video below proves that you Heliocentrics speak out of your arse regarding how long your model has been accepted by the public and has been taught in the education system .



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Swing and a miss.  Care to address the questions asked?

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2017, 03:49:00 PM »
The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population.

You speak nonsense .
You are the one speaking nonsense, with absolutely backing from any reliable source!.

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The majority of the world believe in the flat plane.
I have no idea about the general population and neither do you.
But the governments of nations would not waste their money on actually making and launching their own satellites if the earth were flat.
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USSR, USA, France, Japan, China, UK, India, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iran and North Korea) and one regional organization (the European Space Agency, ESA) have independently launched satellites on their own indigenously developed launch vehicles.
Of these the USSR, China, Iran and North Korea are certainly not "friendly" with the USA and would have delighted in proved that a big US organisation NASA was attempting to deceive the world.
Go and read Timeline of first orbital launches by country.

Not only that but 79 countries/organisations own over 4500 satellites in orbit. These would not waste their money were the earth flat.

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The Chinese know the world is flat as do all nations in the far east.
Evidence please! Why would China have a very active space program if they believed the earth flat!

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Africans know the world is flat .
Some Islamist extremist groups such as ??? ??? Boko Haram do and execute people for teaching otherwise!  ??? ??? So that's the sort of people you agree with!

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Indians know the world is flat .
Evidence please! Again I don't know about the general population but India has launched many space missions. You might read:
Stunning images of Mars beamed back from Indian space probe reveal the red planet in all its glory.

And certainly many in those middle eastern countries (including India) knew the earth was a Globe around the first millennium AD.
  • Aryabhata of India (AD 476–550): "was a pioneer of mathematical astronomy. He describes the earth as being spherical and that it rotates on its axis"

  • Caliph al-Ma'mun: "Around AD 830 commissioned a group of astronomers led by Al-Khwarizmi to measure the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqa, in modern Syria. They found the cities to be separated by one degree of latitude and the distance between them to be 66 2/3 miles and thus calculated the Earth's circumference to be 24,000 miles. Another estimate given was 56  2/3 Arabic miles per degree, which corresponds to 111.8 km per degree and a circumference of 40,248 km, very close to the currently modern values of 111.3 km per degree and 40,068 km circumference, respectively."

  • Abu Rayhan Biruni (973–1048):
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    used a new method to accurately compute the Earth's circumference, by which he arrived at a value that was close to modern values for the Earth's circumference. His estimate of 6,339.9 km for the Earth radius was only 16.8 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7 km. In contrast to his predecessors, who measured the Earth's circumference by sighting the Sun simultaneously from two different locations, Biruni developed a new method of using trigonometric calculations based on the angle between a plain and mountain top.

    This yielded more accurate measurements of the Earth's circumference and made it possible for a single person to measure it from a single location. Biruni's method was intended to avoid "walking across hot, dusty deserts," and the idea came to him when he was on top of a tall mountain in India. From the top of the mountain, he sighted the angle to the horizon which, along with the mountain's height (which he calculated beforehand), allowed him to calculate the curvature of the Earth. He also made use of algebra to formulate trigonometric equations and used the astrolabe to measure angles.

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It is only in the so called west that people have believed the world to be a globe for the past 120 years .
That is totally incorrect unsubstantiated rubbish!
Certainly in the "Western" countries, the Globe earth has been the accepted shape for millennia.
Even in Arabian countries in the first millennium AD the Globe was widely accepted by the leaders, including Caliph al-Ma'mun mentioned above.
I have little solid information of beliefs in that region after the time of the crusades when much of Arabian studies science seems have stopped.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
In the 19th century in Britain people where taught that the Earth is flat with waters above and waters below .
Maybe so in a few deluded schools there and in USA there was at least one "Flat Earth Community" that believed the earth was centred in their village.

All we see from you is unsubstantiated rubbish and silly pseudoscientific nonsense from your YouTube videos.
What about backing your claims up with some evidence? Or don't you have any evidence?
Here run off and read Flat Earth.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2017, 04:04:42 PM »

Yes it is impossible to prove what people believe .

Why don't you go to Africa and do an Internet poll and a hard back survey .

If you come back you can share your results .


In case you do not realise it, Mr Resistance.is.Futile, the shape of the earth cannot be determined by a popular vote.

The shape of the earth can only be determined by observation and measurement and that has proven long ago that the earth is a rotating Globe.
You will somehow just have to used to it!
If you disagree, please come up with an alternative that explains all that we see and can now directly measure.
Sure, you'll claim that all these modern instruments are wrong, we'll you prove that they are wrong because they just prove what has been known for centuries.

Like it or not, believe what you like, but you'll just have to learn to live on an earth that looks like:
Like it or lump it!

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2017, 05:42:47 PM »
The work of Mr. Blue Marble, folks.
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2017, 05:57:01 PM »
Bible myths aside it still wouldnt be that way. The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population. Most FErs in the USA are bible thumper creationists country folk.

You speak nonsense .

The majority of the world believe in the  flat plane .

The Chinese know the world is flat as do all nations in the far east .

Africans know the world is flat .

Indians know the world is flat .

It is only in the so called west that people have believed the world to be a globe for the past 120 years .

In the 19th century in Britain people where taught that the Earth is flat with waters above and waters below .

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Can you back up those statements?  Have you been to any of those places and asked?  I have been to them and I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

My nieces and nephews used to believe in Santa when they asked what he was bringing me for Xmas I didn't tell them he didn't exist .

The video below proves that you Heliocentrics speak out of your arse regarding how long your model has been accepted by the public and has been taught in the education system .



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
your video shows a fake article.  Likely made as a parody or meant to be sarcastic.  Try reading the other articles near it.  The whole thing is meant as humor.

From the comments on your video, "The imposters act. No such thing. It's a part of the "British constitution"? Ah, well, Britain doesn't HAVE a constitution. And one of the punishments is "burning at the stake"."
you got suckered by a fake article and an ignorant video.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2017, 06:21:03 PM »
The work of Mr. Blue Marble, folks.
Evidence?

Sorry, I realise that you need no evidence for a claim like that.

Just look up "Place of the Conspiracy in FET" in "the Wiki" and find that any personally unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET must be fabricated!
Look at this:
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Place of the Conspiracy in FET
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The existence of such a huge quantity of false information indicates the existence of the conspiracy.

Essentially the reasoning boils down to -

P1) If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated
P2) The FET (Flat Earth Theory) is an obvious truth
P3) There is personally unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET

C1) The unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET is fabricated evidence
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From THE FLAT EARTH Wiki, Place of the Conspiracy in FET.

It clearly states "The FET (Flat Earth Theory) is an obvious truth" and "If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated".

But, please remember that even the highly detailed Composite Blue Marble was constructed withdats from  LEO satelliteS.
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This spectacular “blue marble” image is the most detailed true-color image of the entire Earth to date. Using a collection of satellite-based observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds into a seamless, true-color mosaic of every square kilometer (.386 square mile) of our planet.
So your ridicule is a bit meaningless!
Appeal to Ridicule (reductio ad ridiculumis) is a very weak form of argument, though much favoured by you Flat Earthers with no real evidence.

More in Flat Earth Debate / Re: A scientific manor that Proves that the Earth has no Curvature « Message by rabinoz on April 20, 2017, 10:45:22 PM »

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2017, 06:22:38 PM »
The work of Mr. Blue Marble, folks.

and i still not see any evidence that the earth could be flat.

not one little bit of proof for that claim.

i only see the claims of FEIB that all pictures and videos from outer space are fake but i never saw any evidence that would support that claim.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2017, 06:29:39 PM »
A view of our Beautiful Blue Marble, folks.

....this is what you meant to say, correct?
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2017, 09:03:38 PM »
Bible myths aside it still wouldnt be that way. The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population. Most FErs in the USA are bible thumper creationists country folk.
Why exactly do you think most USA flat earthers are bible thumper creationist country folk? Do you have any data to back this up or are you just being a dick?

Since theres no poll of all the 320 million people in the U.S. about FE belief we have to look at other types of data since thats what we have. I found some Drake equations stuff but that can go many ways. Lets look at what we know.

You can not deny the huge link between creationism which tends to take the bible as literal and flat earth belief.

The bible belt


Map of school districts that teach creationism and notice how they are mostly bible belt and country areas in the south, eastern midwest.


The two main US religions that believe and preach creationism are the Baptists and Lutherans red,brown,orange areas which have most of the schools that teach creationism and are in mostly bible belt southern country areas or rural country midwest areas. The Catholic areas in blue do not teach creationism.


Now a US population density map to show rural vs dense areas and as you can see that except for the bigger Texas cities and Atlanta with a few more that most creationists live in the country or more rural areas.



Using the undeniable link between creationism and flat earth belief we can roughly gauge that most flat earth believers in the US are in the bible belt and in more of the rural country areas of the US in the south and midwest. Plus it seems every 3 out of 4 youtubers that promote flat earth in videos or live chats that are Americans tend to be from those areas. Is that a coincidence? Maybe or maybe not its just more data to add. Is this an exact measurement? No but its a pretty good starting point for sure based on some things we do know. This doesnt mean all flat earthers in the US are country bible belters but it looks like the majority are.
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2017, 09:51:19 PM »
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Using the undeniable link between creationism and flat earth belief we can roughly gauge that most flat earth believers in the US are in the bible belt and in more of the rural country areas of the US in the south and midwest. Is this an exact measurement? No but its a pretty good starting point for sure based on some things we do know. This doesnt mean all flat earthers in the US are country bible belters but it looks like the majority are.
While you have a point Flat Earthers seem to confuse the issues of Flat Earth vs Globe Earth and Creation vs Evolution.

That "undeniable link between creationism and flat earth belief" is in the opinion of many of the flat earthers, not in most that believe in a young earth creation.

The following are worth read on this issue::
Flat Earth Myth - More Bogus History, Creating  Bogus  History, What is the Myth About the Flat Earth ? and
The flat earth myth.
Creation Ministries, The flat-earth myth and creationism
A flat earth, and other nonsense, Dealing with ideas that would not exist were it not for the Internet
Creation Ministries, Flat earth leader is an evolutionist!
Really they two completely separate issues and the early Church (Roman Catholic - there wasn't much else in Eorope) most certainly accepted the Globe, though insisted it was stationary and at the centre of the Universe.

I can get you plenty of evidence of this in both the "Church" and Islam till around 1100 AD - just happens to be the time of the Crusades.

Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2017, 01:03:46 AM »
The flat earth movement is a super small group and I mean really small. FErs make up only a few million people out of 7.5 billion in the world. If your antichrist was going to use it as a tool he failed because 5 to 7 million FE believers is a microscopic fraction of the world population.

You speak nonsense .
You are the one speaking nonsense, with absolutely backing from any reliable source!.

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The majority of the world believe in the flat plane.
I have no idea about the general population and neither do you.
But the governments of nations would not waste their money on actually making and launching their own satellites if the earth were flat.
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USSR, USA, France, Japan, China, UK, India, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iran and North Korea) and one regional organization (the European Space Agency, ESA) have independently launched satellites on their own indigenously developed launch vehicles.
Of these the USSR, China, Iran and North Korea are certainly not "friendly" with the USA and would have delighted in proved that a big US organisation NASA was attempting to deceive the world.
Go and read Timeline of first orbital launches by country.

Not only that but 79 countries/organisations own over 4500 satellites in orbit. These would not waste their money were the earth flat.

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The Chinese know the world is flat as do all nations in the far east.
Evidence please! Why would China have a very active space program if they believed the earth flat!

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Africans know the world is flat .
Some Islamist extremist groups such as ??? ??? Boko Haram do and execute people for teaching otherwise!  ??? ??? So that's the sort of people you agree with!

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
Indians know the world is flat .
Evidence please! Again I don't know about the general population but India has launched many space missions. You might read:
Stunning images of Mars beamed back from Indian space probe reveal the red planet in all its glory.

And certainly many in those middle eastern countries (including India) knew the earth was a Globe around the first millennium AD.
  • Aryabhata of India (AD 476–550): "was a pioneer of mathematical astronomy. He describes the earth as being spherical and that it rotates on its axis"

  • Caliph al-Ma'mun: "Around AD 830 commissioned a group of astronomers led by Al-Khwarizmi to measure the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqa, in modern Syria. They found the cities to be separated by one degree of latitude and the distance between them to be 66 2/3 miles and thus calculated the Earth's circumference to be 24,000 miles. Another estimate given was 56  2/3 Arabic miles per degree, which corresponds to 111.8 km per degree and a circumference of 40,248 km, very close to the currently modern values of 111.3 km per degree and 40,068 km circumference, respectively."

  • Abu Rayhan Biruni (973–1048):
    Quote
    used a new method to accurately compute the Earth's circumference, by which he arrived at a value that was close to modern values for the Earth's circumference. His estimate of 6,339.9 km for the Earth radius was only 16.8 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7 km. In contrast to his predecessors, who measured the Earth's circumference by sighting the Sun simultaneously from two different locations, Biruni developed a new method of using trigonometric calculations based on the angle between a plain and mountain top.

    This yielded more accurate measurements of the Earth's circumference and made it possible for a single person to measure it from a single location. Biruni's method was intended to avoid "walking across hot, dusty deserts," and the idea came to him when he was on top of a tall mountain in India. From the top of the mountain, he sighted the angle to the horizon which, along with the mountain's height (which he calculated beforehand), allowed him to calculate the curvature of the Earth. He also made use of algebra to formulate trigonometric equations and used the astrolabe to measure angles.

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It is only in the so called west that people have believed the world to be a globe for the past 120 years .
That is totally incorrect unsubstantiated rubbish!
Certainly in the "Western" countries, the Globe earth has been the accepted shape for millennia.
Even in Arabian countries in the first millennium AD the Globe was widely accepted by the leaders, including Caliph al-Ma'mun mentioned above.
I have little solid information of beliefs in that region after the time of the crusades when much of Arabian studies science seems have stopped.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
In the 19th century in Britain people where taught that the Earth is flat with waters above and waters below .
Maybe so in a few deluded schools there and in USA there was at least one "Flat Earth Community" that believed the earth was centred in their village.

All we see from you is unsubstantiated rubbish and silly pseudoscientific nonsense from your YouTube videos.
What about backing your claims up with some evidence? Or don't you have any evidence?
Here run off and read Flat Earth.

These are the types of people you agree with :

Hitler .

Pol Pot .

Stalin .

Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory.

Parallax

Parallax

Parallax

Tee hee hee
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2017, 01:21:05 AM »
Starlin .
Is this some pony from My Little Pony? It sure sounds like it could be.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2017, 03:30:57 AM »
The work of Mr. Blue Marble, folks.
If you think it is fake, show your evidence.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2017, 04:43:25 AM »

These are the types of people you agree with :

Hitler .

Pol Pot .

Stalin .

Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory.

Parallax

Parallax

Parallax

Tee hee hee
 ;D

Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.

and there is the point where you run out of arguments.

lets call you pigeon , you just kicked everything of the table and declare victory.

would be interesting to know if you also argue that way with your boss (if you do actually work)

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2017, 05:04:47 AM »
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It is only in the so called west that people have believed the world to be a globe for the past 120 years .
That is totally incorrect unsubstantiated rubbish!
Certainly in the "Western" countries, the Globe earth has been the accepted shape for millennia.
Even in Arabian countries in the first millennium AD the Globe was widely accepted by the leaders, including Caliph al-Ma'mun mentioned above.
I have little solid information of beliefs in that region after the time of the crusades when much of Arabian studies science seems have stopped.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile
These are the types of people you agree with :
Hitler,
I don't know about Hitler, but the German military in World War I certainly believed in the Heliocentric Globe after they dragged out the "works of one Gustave Gaspard Coriolis (1792-1843),who in 1835 published his Sur les Equations du Mouvement Relatif des Systemes de Corps ("On the equations of Relative Motion of System of Bodies"), in which he stated that, due to spherical nature of the Earth and it's rotation, a moving object on a north-south vector would be affected by the relative rotational speeds of launch and impact points."

Yes, they believed in the Heliocentric Globe because it is correct and actually works, unlike your False Flat Earthism!

And again in WWII, I don't know about Hitler, but those working on the guidance system of the V2 rockets certainly believed in the Heliocentric Globe beause they needed to allow for the "Eötvös Effect" and "Coriolis effect".

So again, they believed in the Heliocentric Globe because it is correct and actually works, unlike your False Flat Earthism!

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Pol Pot .
Please prove that Pol Pot believed in the Heliocentric Globe, but you seem to agree with the evil Boko Haram, see below!

Do you know something, Mr Resistance.is.Futile, I imagine that Hitler, Pol Pot and Vlad the Impaler all believed that the sky is blue and so do I.
What does that prove?

I believe that the Heliocentric Globe is correct because the available evidence strongly supports that conclusion.
If you disagree, show your model of a stationary flat earth that better explains this evidence - you cannot do it!

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Starlin .

Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory.

I have no idea who you mean with Starlin! You must mean Starlin Castro, this baseball player pictured on the right:

He's the only Starlin that I know of!

 :P You are totally despicable, falsely accusing an excellent baseball player like that of being one of the "Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory."  :P
:D :D Whatever "hisstory" might mean! :D :D

         

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If you want to play that silly game, just remember that many Islamic extremist groups strongly believe in the flat stationary earth.

Boko Haram believe that the earth is flat and targets geography teachers for teaching that the earth is a globe.
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Boko Haram targets geography teachers for assassination
Boko Haram has singled out geography teachers in Nigeria as targets for assassination, according to a report by the Human Rights Watch.
Western education's principles of geography and social science contradict the teachings of group's founder, Mohammed Yusuf, says the Daily Telegraph.
Boko Haram believes the Earth is flat and that rainfall is an act of God and not caused by evaporation. As a result, it ranks geography teachers in Nigeria alongside security chiefs and senior politicians as prime candidates for assassination.
"Boko Haram insurgents have shown particular distaste for certain subjects like geography and science... Teachers of these subjects are targeted," says the report.
::) ::) And you claim to believe in the flat stationary earth. Is that the sort of people you sympathesise with?  ::) ::)

Stop being such an idiot! If you have evidence for your claims, present them, otherwise stop wasting everyone's time.





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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2017, 05:19:13 AM »
Stalin .
So you finally realised your terrible crime about accusing a great baseballer of being a mass murderer! Now you're trying to paper over the cracks!
Bit late!  ::) I caught you with your scurrilous accusation!  ::)

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Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory.
But I still can't work out what this silly "hisstory" is. Do you mean:
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HisStory Church
His Story Church. We are a Korean church based in Lidcombe with a growing international community
But that does not seem relevant to this discussion.
I think you are just confused and deluded, I could try to find a good psychologist for you if you wish.

By the way, I hope you like your association with the Boko Haram, just be careful you don't lose your head - literally.

Now, please start debating actual flat earth ideas and theory and not the stupid rubbish you've been posting.
I guess you do not have any real evidence for the flat earth and you are trying to hide your ignorance behind all this bluster.

Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2017, 12:56:20 PM »
Stalin .
So you finally realised your terrible crime about accusing a great baseballer of being a mass murderer! Now you're trying to paper over the cracks!
Bit late!  ::) I caught you with your scurrilous accusation!  ::)

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Three of the greatest mass murderers in known hisstory.
But I still can't work out what this silly "hisstory" is. Do you mean:
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HisStory Church
His Story Church. We are a Korean church based in Lidcombe with a growing international community
But that does not seem relevant to this discussion.
I think you are just confused and deluded, I could try to find a good psychologist for you if you wish.

By the way, I hope you like your association with the Boko Haram, just be careful you don't lose your head - literally.

Now, please start debating actual flat earth ideas and theory and not the stupid rubbish you've been posting.
I guess you do not have any real evidence for the flat earth and you are trying to hide your ignorance behind all this bluster.

I hope you like your association with your brethren old man .

Stalin .

Pol Pot  .

Hitler.

Parallax.

Parallax.

Parallax .

 ;D

I can feel a new thread developing.

I thought I would give you a heads up to give you a fighting chance .

For now you can enjoy this Flat Earth nursery rhyme .



Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #53 on: September 20, 2017, 01:23:34 PM »
I hope you like your association with your brethren old man .

Stalin .

Pol Pot  .

Hitler.

I can feel a new thread developing.
You are the only one mentioning them. They seem to be your favourites. Yes, I can also see new thread developing - Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and RiF - how are they associated. Or - Why RiF keeps pictures of Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler on his wall. Or something like that.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2017, 01:30:24 PM »
I hope you like your association with your brethren old man .

Stalin .

Pol Pot  .

Hitler.

I can feel a new thread developing.
You are the only one mentioning them. They seem to be your favourites. Yes, I can also see new thread developing - Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and RiF - how are they associated. Or - Why RiF keeps pictures of Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler on his wall. Or something like that.

he only brings that up to distract from the basic problem: he can not explain his Flat Earth Idea and how it could work in reality.

That is always his tactic.

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2017, 02:32:47 PM »
I hope you like your association with your brethren old man.
Stalin. Pol Pot. Hitler.
1) Prove that all of them believed the earth a Globe.
2) They are not my brethren.
3) So what!

Boko Haram believe that the earth is flat and targets geography teachers for teaching that the earth is a globe.
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Boko Haram targets geography teachers for assassination
Boko Haram has singled out geography teachers in Nigeria as targets for assassination, according to a report by the Human Rights Watch.
Western education's principles of geography and social science contradict the teachings of group's founder, Mohammed Yusuf, says the Daily Telegraph.
Boko Haram believes the Earth is flat and that rainfall is an act of God and not caused by evaporation. As a result, it ranks geography teachers in Nigeria alongside security chiefs and senior politicians as prime candidates for assassination.
"Boko Haram insurgents have shown particular distaste for certain subjects like geography and science... Teachers of these subjects are targeted," says the report.
Sure sounds like you, with your total ignorance about "science". You'd fit in well with Boko Haram, bye bye!
::) ::) And you claim to believe in the flat stationary earth. Is that the sort of people you sympathesise with?  ::) ::)
I hope you like your murderous associates, kiddo! You have a good Flat Earth Qibla Finder otherwise it'll be a case of:
Those Boko Haram don't play around! The trouble is that all the genuine Qibla Locators I can find, and there are plenty, are for the Globe - this is quite true.
This might (or might not) help The Qibla on a Flat Earth.

PS The earth looks very much like a rotating Globe to me! You'll just have to learn to live on an earth that looks like:

From EPIC during August 21 Eclipse.

Like it or lump it!

PS: I am sure that Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and YOU believed that the sun rose in an easterly direction and set in a westerly direction.
      So now YOU are associating with these mass murderers too - how awful of you Mr Resistance.is.Futile.




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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2017, 02:42:46 PM »
A coin is flat and round, when you spin it on the table you get the illusion that the flat and round coin is a sphere... This is your earth, just an illusion and this science has confirmed, just ask the Japanese!

The illusion will be known to everyone soon and people will be ashamed that they argued about this instead of looking at the EVIDENCE!

What more illusions is there to unfold, and will we argue about that also?  :P

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2017, 06:29:17 PM »
A coin is flat and round, when you spin it on the table you get the illusion that the flat and round coin is a sphere... This is your earth, just an illusion and this science has confirmed, just ask the Japanese!

The illusion will be known to everyone soon and people will be ashamed that they argued about this instead of looking at the EVIDENCE!

What more illusions is there to unfold, and will we argue about that also?  :P

Love to you all  :-*
What evidence?

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2017, 11:14:08 AM »
A coin is flat and round, when you spin it on the table you get the illusion that the flat and round coin is a sphere... This is your earth, just an illusion and this science has confirmed, just ask the Japanese!

The illusion will be known to everyone soon and people will be ashamed that they argued about this instead of looking at the EVIDENCE!

What more illusions is there to unfold, and will we argue about that also?  :P

Love to you all  :-*
What evidence?

For which crime?

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Re: One weird Question: Please answer sensibly
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2017, 10:22:22 AM »
A coin is flat and round, when you spin it on the table you get the illusion that the flat and round coin is a sphere... This is your earth, just an illusion and this science has confirmed, just ask the Japanese!

The illusion will be known to everyone soon and people will be ashamed that they argued about this instead of looking at the EVIDENCE!

What more illusions is there to unfold, and will we argue about that also?  :P

Love to you all  :-*
What evidence?


Am I going to ask the Japanese about their weather satellite Himawari 8, that takes a full picture of their hemisphere every 10 minutes?

I wonder what they would say...

Hello Mr. Japanese person, please... tell us how the world is flat despite this amazing satellite you have that is..... blah blah blah, you get the point.


Too many holes in these flat earth arguments... sheesh... argue about an ideology... much easier
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