An insult

Imagine being such a sensitive special snowflake that the existence of a few people who do not believe as you do is an insult.

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on April 10, 2017, 01:24:46 AM

Quote from: Antirockballtheorist on April 10, 2017, 01:17:45 AM

Now that i think of all the heroic geniuses and brave visionaries at NASA, and their selfless sacrifices that made their unbelievable and truly incredible achievements possible, i realise we are all clinging to a spinning, flying and of course slightly wobbling, rock ball.

Been spinning for billions of years, thousands of millions of years.

Thank you, and may i take this opportunity to also thank everyone at NASA, and apologise for insulting them by not believing previously their crazy bullshit.

Imagine this, the earth and everything on it, including us, is shrunken down to the size of a tennis ball. Now rotate that tennis ball at a rate of once per day. From our perspective on the small earth, it would still seem as if the earth was rotating at 1000mph, as speed is measured in relation to other objects, however from outside earth it would be spinning extremely slowly. Combine that fact with gravity, sentrific forces, all of the BS that NASA has said suddenly becomes more understandable. I accept the rest of your apology though.

How do you manage to get through your day?

Um, idk. Is your name a combination of the Lone Ranger and Granger as in Hermione? Because if so that is brilliant.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 02:32:23 AM

Quote from: İntikam on April 10, 2017, 02:02:41 AM

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on April 10, 2017, 01:02:27 AM

I wanted to say that this forum is an insult to the lives people spent working at NASA and other space agencies. Not understanding something does not mean the more "obvious" or "likely" option is true. If you expect to know how everything works, or think you already do, that is extremely ignorant. Scientific driven agencies strive to increase our knowledge of our place in the universe and people like those on this forum, have no place in that world. You have to accept that there is not one FE model that correctly shows what we observe. However the globe and globe physics explain everything we experience. Do not move this to angry ranting as it is my view on this forum and it should remain in General.

NASA and other liars are insulting to the human mind. We are describing NASA scientifically, there is no insult.

What makes you think that NASA is lying to you?

We opened several topics about this event. There is no need any explanation anymore. A brain and a few times for thinking is enough.

Well I don't understand it and I do need an explanation.

Imagine being such a sensitive special snowflake that the existence of a few people who do not believe as you do is an insult.

I don't mind it if you believe something other than I do, but if you continue to ignore evidence against it, and that evidence which people had dedicated their lives to, then yeah that is pretty insulting. Also special snowflake is pretty redundant as every snowflake is special.

Not to mention the fact that the atmosphere (such as it is) travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation of the earth (which is 1000 mph only at the equator).

Pick a speed of rotation because either way the bullshit ruse is bust wide open.

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2017, 06:31:34 AM

Not to mention the fact that the atmosphere (such as it is) travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation of the earth (which is 1000 mph only at the equator).

Pick a speed of rotation because either way the bullshit ruse is bust wide open.

Not if the atmosphere travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 05:59:57 AM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 05:55:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 05:51:08 AM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 05:47:35 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 05:35:20 AM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 05:24:46 AM

Why do you think space doesn't exist?

I don't see any proof whatsoever that it does exist and the way my model works ensures that the atmosphere cannot be what we are told it is on a rotating ball.

That's surprising. Your FE model doesn't agree with the RE model? Can't imagine that.

Never mind about that Mr Parrot. Can you answer the Baumgartner conundrum?
Or do you require more copy/paste?

Alright, you need to understand this because you obviously don't. Felix Baumgartner was not in a vacuum (Please send me sources saying otherwise). He was still affected by the atmosphere, as was his balloon and his parachute. If he was about 40 miles higher, then yes he would be in a complete vacuum, but that would be 40 miles higher. That, along with everything from my previous explanation, shows how he could go up, and fall "only" 70 miles from his original position.

Can you tell me how he managed to fall 800 mph if he was affected by atmosphere?

Atmosphere works like this: Air is pulled downward, thus making the air lower to the ground denser and more compact. Like in a swimming pool, more water being on top, the lower you go the more pressure.
Felix Baumgartner was at an extremely high altitude thus making the atmosphere thinner than it is here, but still present. But why was it still enough for him to only land 70 miles away? Because during his ascending, for most the the ride the balloon was being carried in the atmosphere, that's how balloons work. When he was preparing to jump, the balloon had kept the velocity in the direction of the earth's atmosphere, and when he jumped, so did he.

Any answer sceptimatic?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 10, 2017, 09:03:02 AM

Imagine being such a sensitive special snowflake that the existence of a few people who do not believe as you do is an insult.

I don't mind it if you believe something other than I do, but if you continue to ignore evidence against it, and that evidence which people had dedicated their lives to, then yeah that is pretty insulting. Also special snowflake is pretty redundant as every snowflake is special.

Sorry that isn't true anymore http://thescienceexplorer.com/nature/snowflakes-are-not-unique-we-thought

Also, why let yourself be so upset by what other people do?

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 09:08:41 AM

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2017, 06:31:34 AM

Not to mention the fact that the atmosphere (such as it is) travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation of the earth (which is 1000 mph only at the equator).

Pick a speed of rotation because either way the bullshit ruse is bust wide open.

Not if the atmosphere travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation.

You do understand that the Baumgartner crew showed us digital read outs of the atmosphere and what not, right.
By their readings the atmosphere was virtually non existent. So low that they classed it as a vacuum.
Now this is what they showed us.
It also showed us Baumgartner supposedly falling through a near vacuum to attain the supposed speed he did without injury.
He even said himself that he didn't feel any force on him due to there being NO friction.

If there's no friction then there's no dragging his big supposed capsule around the spinning Earth in sync.

You know it makes no sense and any rational person knows it makes no sense.
For him to land only 70 miles away from his lift off zone after being up there for one and a half hours would be utter nonsense given the Earth's supposed rotation, even if you knock a few hundred mph off it seeing as you want to play the equator card.

To the rational detective in every person, we can see that something is wrong.
It's either, the Earth spins and Baumgartner and crew are spinning bullshit or Earth is stationary and Bumgartner and crew are still spinning bullshit.

I go for the second option because that option is the only realistic option.

Earth is not a globe. It does not spin at any speed.

I wanted to say that this forum is an insult to the lives people spent working at NASA and other space agencies. Not understanding something does not mean the more "obvious" or "likely" option is true. If you expect to know how everything works, or think you already do, that is extremely ignorant. Scientific driven agencies strive to increase our knowledge of our place in the universe and people like those on this forum, have no place in that world. You have to accept that there is not one FE model that correctly shows what we observe. However the globe and globe physics explain everything we experience. Do not move this to angry ranting as it is my view on this forum and it should remain in General.

Using Nasa as your baseline.. You do realize that everyone who works at Nasa is CG right?

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:08:36 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 10, 2017, 09:03:02 AM

Imagine being such a sensitive special snowflake that the existence of a few people who do not believe as you do is an insult.

I don't mind it if you believe something other than I do, but if you continue to ignore evidence against it, and that evidence which people had dedicated their lives to, then yeah that is pretty insulting. Also special snowflake is pretty redundant as every snowflake is special.

Sorry that isn't true anymore http://thescienceexplorer.com/nature/snowflakes-are-not-unique-we-thought

Also, why let yourself be so upset by what other people do?

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world. But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on April 10, 2017, 01:02:27 AM

I wanted to say that this forum is an insult to the lives people spent working at NASA and other space agencies. Not understanding something does not mean the more "obvious" or "likely" option is true. If you expect to know how everything works, or think you already do, that is extremely ignorant. Scientific driven agencies strive to increase our knowledge of our place in the universe and people like those on this forum, have no place in that world. You have to accept that there is not one FE model that correctly shows what we observe. However the globe and globe physics explain everything we experience. Do not move this to angry ranting as it is my view on this forum and it should remain in General.

Using Nasa as your baseline.. You do realize that everyone who works at Nasa is CG right?

Nice claim you got there. Sure would be a shame if someone were to as for, evidence.

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2017, 09:11:41 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 09:08:41 AM

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2017, 06:31:34 AM

Not to mention the fact that the atmosphere (such as it is) travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation of the earth (which is 1000 mph only at the equator).

Pick a speed of rotation because either way the bullshit ruse is bust wide open.

Not if the atmosphere travels at roughly the same speed as the rotation.

You do understand that the Baumgartner crew showed us digital read outs of the atmosphere and what not, right.
By their readings the atmosphere was virtually non existent. So low that they classed it as a vacuum.
Now this is what they showed us.
It also showed us Baumgartner supposedly falling through a near vacuum to attain the supposed speed he did without injury.
He even said himself that he didn't feel any force on him due to there being NO friction.

If there's no friction then there's no dragging his big supposed capsule around the spinning Earth in sync.

You know it makes no sense and any rational person knows it makes no sense.
For him to land only 70 miles away from his lift off zone after being up there for one and a half hours would be utter nonsense given the Earth's supposed rotation, even if you knock a few hundred mph off it seeing as you want to play the equator card.

To the rational detective in every person, we can see that something is wrong.
It's either, the Earth spins and Baumgartner and crew are spinning bullshit or Earth is stationary and Bumgartner and crew are still spinning bullshit.

I go for the second option because that option is the only realistic option.

Earth is not a globe. It does not spin at any speed.

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

Atmosphere works like this: Air is pulled downward, thus making the air lower to the ground denser and more compact. Like in a swimming pool, more water being on top, the lower you go the more pressure.

Nothing is pulled downwards but it makes no odds because we aren't dealing with this scenario.

Felix Baumgartner was at an extremely high altitude thus making the atmosphere thinner than it is here, but still present.

23 miles apparently in a near vacuum as the digital read out informed us on the TEE VEE.
No friction. No forces.
This means that no wind is carrying anything.

But why was it still enough for him to only land 70 miles away? Because during his ascending, for most the the ride the balloon was being carried in the atmosphere, that's how balloons work.

Weird that we are told we had to wait for the perfect timing for the calm weather, but still, this doesn't stand up to scrutiny when we were treated to pictures of Earth as he was ascending to this supposed height.
It doesn't add up because it's all utter bullshit.

When he was preparing to jump, the balloon had kept the velocity in the direction of the earth's atmosphere, and when he jumped, so did he.

Any answer sceptimatic?

Nice try but your globe is nonsense and you'd be better channeling your brain matter into finding out the truth of a massive abundance of lies that was cast out as supposed education.

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

I don't see any way to beat someone who denies facts. You win. Congratulations. Evidence or just a theory?

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

The Redbull video? If you watch at 46 seconds in you can see from inside the capsule that the horizon is a flat and straight line. The moment he steps outside however shows a massive curvature in the earth and the landmass below him is 7x bigger than it should be while viewing the earth from that height. Don't believe me? Go watch that CGI nonsense for yourself.



This whole planet is just CG, wake up people. Accept jesus as your lord and savior and let the bible into your heart.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 09:41:01 AM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

I don't see any way to beat someone who denies facts. You win. Congratulations.

You give up too easily, we usually manage to string this shit out for another 30 pages at least.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 10, 2017, 09:41:01 AM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

The Redbull video? If you watch at 46 seconds in you can see from inside the capsule that the horizon is a flat and straight line. The moment he steps outside however shows a massive curvature in the earth and the landmass below him is 7x bigger than it should be while viewing the earth from that height. Don't believe me? Go watch that CGI nonsense for yourself.

That curvature is not accurate whats o ever. It is called a curved lens. Different cameras were used inside and outside of the shuttle. The flat horizon is explained like this: From something small's perspective, on a big enough ball, the surface will appear flat. If you have trouble imagining that, think about it for more than a second.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

Do you have any evidence of this, or was it just a clever theory you thought up?

The moment he steps outside however shows a massive curvature in the earth and the landmass below him is 7x bigger than it should be while viewing the earth from that height.

uh-huh..

Quote from: Kuijiblob on April 10, 2017, 10:22:28 AM

The moment he steps outside however shows a massive curvature in the earth and the landmass below him is 7x bigger than it should be while viewing the earth from that height.

uh-huh..

But the massive curve is due to the lens on the camera.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on April 10, 2017, 10:40:18 AM

Quote from: Kuijiblob on April 10, 2017, 10:22:28 AM

The moment he steps outside however shows a massive curvature in the earth and the landmass below him is 7x bigger than it should be while viewing the earth from that height.

uh-huh..

But the massive curve is due to the lens on the camera.

Oh I know, it was more a response to the visible land mass thing.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 02:32:23 AM

Quote from: İntikam on April 10, 2017, 02:02:41 AM

Quote from: Physical Experimenter on April 10, 2017, 01:02:27 AM

I wanted to say that this forum is an insult to the lives people spent working at NASA and other space agencies. Not understanding something does not mean the more "obvious" or "likely" option is true. If you expect to know how everything works, or think you already do, that is extremely ignorant. Scientific driven agencies strive to increase our knowledge of our place in the universe and people like those on this forum, have no place in that world. You have to accept that there is not one FE model that correctly shows what we observe. However the globe and globe physics explain everything we experience. Do not move this to angry ranting as it is my view on this forum and it should remain in General.

NASA and other liars are insulting to the human mind. We are describing NASA scientifically, there is no insult.

What makes you think that NASA is lying to you?

We opened several topics about this event. There is no need any explanation anymore. A brain and a few times for thinking is enough.

Forsooth! I've had a few times for thinking so the obvious conclusion is that I must not have a brain. This is depressing news. Please tell me this isn't the case.

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world.

Nazi

But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

How long have you been this mental?

When will you start working on hair growth or something worthwhile?

Go peddle newspapers.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world.

Nazi

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

How long have you been this mental?

When will you start working on hair growth or something worthwhile?

Go peddle newspapers.

So you have run out of arguments and no have to resort to personal insult.
Keep it up it's the Flat Earthers' only weapon against people like Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Kepler, Einstein etc.

Yes you, totallackey, along with İntikam, Physical Observer and Areallivehuman are among the Globe's best proponents.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

When the balloon lifted off, it was traveling with the earth, and so it kept the velocity of the earth, same as he did when he jumped off. Now a question for you: If the earth is stationary, how did Baumgartner go up 24 miles, but manage to land more than 70 miles from where he took off?

He didn't go 24 miles up. He jumped from a helicopter 70 miles away.
He was never in a capsule attached to a silly helium balloon for crying out loud.

If you believe that then why are you using where he landed as evidence the earth is flat?

Quote from: totallackey on April 10, 2017, 01:34:32 PM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world.

Nazi

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

How long have you been this mental?

When will you start working on hair growth or something worthwhile?

Go peddle newspapers.

So you have run out of arguments and no have to resort to personal insult.

Still, I guess that's the topic, and you are proving ProveMeWrong's case so effectively.

Keep it up it's the Flat Earthers' only weapon against people like Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Kepler, Einstein etc.

Yes you, totallackey, along with İntikam, Physical Observer and Areallivehuman are among the Globe's best proponents.

The mere idea of "all people need to believe the same thing," is so stupid, there is no need to present an argument.

It is only necessary to label the mindset.

If the mindset is that of a Nazi, then so be it.

It does not surprise me you are here defending that mindset.

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Quote from: totallackey on April 10, 2017, 01:34:32 PM

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world.

Nazi

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

How long have you been this mental?

When will you start working on hair growth or something worthwhile?

Go peddle newspapers.

So you have run out of arguments and no have to resort to personal insult.

Still, I guess that's the topic, and you are proving ProveMeWrong's case so effectively.

Keep it up it's the Flat Earthers' only weapon against people like Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Kepler, Einstein etc.

Yes you, totallackey, along with İntikam, Physical Observer and Areallivehuman are among the Globe's best proponents.

The mere idea of "all people need to believe the same thing," is so stupid, there is no need to present an argument.

It is only necessary to label the mindset.

If the mindset is that of a Nazi, then so be it.

It does not surprise me you are here defending that mindset.

People are entitled to their own beliefs, just not their own facts.

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

Because if everyone believed in the same thing, there would definitely be more peace in the world.

Nazi

Quote from: ProveMeWrong on April 10, 2017, 09:26:24 AM

But if people begin creating new beliefs that oppose the most basic knowledge, based on a trust issue, then we will never be more than we are now. I am not an atheist, but I don't believe in a god, I don't think there is enough evidence to prove either side. I only believe in facts, and I find it insulting when people who have worked their lives to discover those facts are ignored.

How long have you been this mental?

When will you start working on hair growth or something worthwhile?

Go peddle newspapers.

Ouch someone on the internet called me a Nazi. Well they sure proved their point, better back off. I am actually part Jewish and I have had a Bar-Mitzvah. Happy Passover. I would tell you to **** off but I don't want to get banned.
As for the second part, everyone, other than a small group of people on this site and others around the world, consider the world being a globe as basic knowledge. When I talk to my family about why I go on these sites and argue with you people, I have to defend you to an extent so that they don't think I'm so low to argue with idiots.