I don't think EVERYBODY'S lying to me. I understand that many are simply too arrogant to change their indoctrinated stance. I know that many are extremely gullible and naive.
I know that many will be pondering what I'm saying but would rather not come into it because they fear ridicule and bullying by those that get extremely irate and irrational. Like you.
Then there's the liars and fibbers, or story telling sci-fi writers that probably don't see what they do as telling lies. They maybe see it as portraying something to the minds of those that want an alternate reality but can only have the concept of it through fantasy mind bending/brainwashing.
In real life Flat Earth model has serious flaws.
South of the equator navigation by Flat Model is impossible. Real positions of celestial bodies are totally different.
Being much older than Round Earth model, FEM should develop much more consistency by now.
It didn't. As soon as big enough part of the world was discovered, Flat model was abandoned for practical use, as worthless.
Ancient Greeks had two options: flat Earth and close Sun, or round Earth and far Sun.
Do you think they were stupid? They noted that if Sun is close, then it would shrink in appearance
when going away from observer from noon to afternoon and sunset.
Since it doesn't, they saw that the Sun is "already too far away for that".
Geodesy actually MEASURED curvature long before NASA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesyChurch never claimed the Earth is Flat.
They said it is Static.
Those are two diferent things.
Church claimed that Sun and planets revolve around Earth.
Galileo used telescope to observe movement of celestial bodies,
and calculated that actually, Earth and other planets revolve around Sun.
His followers used that to attack Dogma (and Church),
so Galileo was put on trial, where he was forced to abandon his teachings.
Hence the words attributed to him after the trial "eppur si muove" ("and yet it moves").
What do you think why Flat Earth model for Sun behavior has to invent such weird optics,
which falls apart as soon as you include more than one observer from different parts of the world?
Why some Flat Earthers select only convenient facts to prove the Earth is flat,
and everything that disproves it they twist, or ridicule, or declare "lies and conspiracies"?
For example, every video that shows midnight sun on south pole they call "fake".
On globe model everything works well.
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In Reply #210 (page 8 ) in this thread I offered easy and cheap practical way to check out if gravity exists.
If it does, why you need Air Pressure to make things fall towards floor?
If it doesn't, what pulls air down to make pressure in the first place?
The same thing that pulls air, pulls everything else together with it as well.
Air itself presses thing from below, not only from above.
And having pressure dependent on depth / height, pressure from below is slightly bigger.
Things will in air lose part of their weight by the same principle things lose some weight in water.
Only in water the weight loss is bigger, because of difference in density.