iWitness - Air Pressure and Weight

How does Air Pressure cause weight?

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 29, 2016, 12:33:49 PM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 29, 2016, 04:17:46 AM

How does Air Pressure cause weight?

And how is the air pressurized?

By stacking.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 29, 2016, 12:33:49 PM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 29, 2016, 04:17:46 AM

How does Air Pressure cause weight?

And how is the air pressurized?

By stacking.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 29, 2016, 09:53:17 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 29, 2016, 12:34:41 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 29, 2016, 12:33:49 PM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 29, 2016, 04:17:46 AM

How does Air Pressure cause weight?

And how is the air pressurized?

By stacking.

Stacking from what? Won't the air just float away?

That depends on whether you want to take notice of why and how rather than just thinking of a global Earth.
Let me know if you want to understand.

A column 1 square inch (6.5 cm2) in cross-section would have a weight of about 14.7 lb (6.7 kg) or about 65.4 N.

He said to me, "I made this decision before I created the world: before the gates of the world were standing; before the winds were brought together to blow,
 or the lightning flashed, or the thunder rolled; before the foundations of Paradise were laid,
 or the beautiful flowers appeared; before the powers that move the stars were established, or the armies of angels assembled;
 before the air was piled up high, or the divisions of the heavens given their names; before I chose Mount Zion as my footstool;
 before the present age was planned, or the scheming of its sinners was rejected, or my seal was placed on those who obeyed the Law and laid up a treasure of faithfulness.
 Even then, I decided that since I, and I alone, had created the world, I, and I alone, would bring it to an end."

Yes it is caused by stacking. And the Firmament keeps the Air from "floating away".



You act like it is so unbelievable that "Gravity" is actually Air Pressure when Air Pressure is a measurable force.

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A column 1 square inch (6.5 cm2) in cross-section would have a weight of about 14.7 lb (6.7 kg) or about 65.4 N.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure

Proof from Ancient Scriptures:

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He said to me, "I made this decision before I created the world: before the gates of the world were standing; before the winds were brought together to blow,
 or the lightning flashed, or the thunder rolled; before the foundations of Paradise were laid,
 or the beautiful flowers appeared; before the powers that move the stars were established, or the armies of angels assembled;
 before the air was piled up high, or the divisions of the heavens given their names; before I chose Mount Zion as my footstool;
 before the present age was planned, or the scheming of its sinners was rejected, or my seal was placed on those who obeyed the Law and laid up a treasure of faithfulness.
 Even then, I decided that since I, and I alone, had created the world, I, and I alone, would bring it to an end."

2 Esdraws 6:1-6

That's *2 Esdras 6:1-6

And what's interesting is you can actually "Feel" Air pressure when you stick your hand out the window. The Air pressure keeps a car on the ground when traveling forward, and likewise allows and airplane to generate lift.

Now tell me, how can I "feel" gravity?

No, Air Pressure is the force that pushes denser objects DOWN aka "Gravity".

Weight is caused by Density. What makes a Bowling Ball "heavier" than a Watermelon? It's the Density.

No, Air Pressure is the force that pushes denser objects DOWN aka "Gravity".

Weight is caused by Density. What makes a Bowling Ball "heavier" than a Watermelon? It's the Density.

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

I would like some clarification on this as well. It seems like a pretty simple thing to test.

Get a vacuum chamber.

Put a kitchen scale in it.

Put a weight on the scale.

Evacuate the air and then observe.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

I would like some clarification on this as well. It seems like a pretty simple thing to test.

Get a vacuum chamber.

Put a kitchen scale in it.

Put a weight on the scale.

Evacuate the air and then observe.

Quote from: crutonius on July 30, 2016, 08:56:51 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

I would like some clarification on this as well. It seems like a pretty simple thing to test.

Get a vacuum chamber.

Put a kitchen scale in it.

Put a weight on the scale.

Evacuate the air and then observe.

Yep, as long as the test is done legitimately and not a con job like sokarul tried.

Quote from: crutonius on July 30, 2016, 08:56:51 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

I would like some clarification on this as well. It seems like a pretty simple thing to test.

Get a vacuum chamber.

Put a kitchen scale in it.

Put a weight on the scale.

Evacuate the air and then observe.

Yep, as long as the test is done legitimately and not a con job like sokarul tried.

I see nothing wrong with sokarul's test. Perhapse you could do a better one. Actually, I just did one myself, and anybody here can.

Get a syringe, weigh it.

fill it with a little bit of water. Weigh it again.

Cover the end of the syringe, and pull the stopper to the end, creating a near-vacuum, use a screw or something similar to lock the stopper at the end.

Weigh it again. According to sceptimatic, the liquid inside should be near weightless, so it should weigh the same as when it was empty, but surprise, it doesn't.

Proving that vacuums don't make objects weightless.

The problem is he has claimed air can go through materials at will.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 09:10:26 AM

Quote from: crutonius on July 30, 2016, 08:56:51 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Quote from: sandmanMike on July 30, 2016, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 30, 2016, 08:01:58 AM

Not correct. It's still under equilibrium.

Could you explain?

If you allow atmospheric pressure to expand and exit out of a chamber, it will still leave an equal (all around inside) but less pressure inside of that chamber. So therefore anything inside it is simply still a dense object sitting inside under that pressure.

I would like some clarification on this as well. It seems like a pretty simple thing to test.

Get a vacuum chamber.

Put a kitchen scale in it.

Put a weight on the scale.

Evacuate the air and then observe.

Yep, as long as the test is done legitimately and not a con job like sokarul tried.

That's kind of the point. These discussions are only a start point.  It's all just a bunch of words until we put it to the test.

I've done this experiment so I can tell you what I've seen. You can my word for it or you can run it yourself. If your results differ from mine then we have to go over our procedures and see who botched what. But if you get the same results then you might have some problems with your theory that needs some work.

That's how falsification works and it takes a certain kind of masochism to perform without prejudice because it's essentially actively working to kill your own intellectual property.